Stefan and Jordan speak the truth of femenin societies

NOTHING MORE DANGEROUS THAN A MOTHER PROTECTING HER CUBS

In maternal instinct, infants are innocent no matter what they do (and for good reason). And they will defend them viciously.

If you extend this maternal instinct into politics, where minorities like Syrian refugees and Muslims are the protected "infants", these groups can basically do no wrong.

If you attack or call out those groups for their wrongdoings, those tolerant liberal maternal instincts kick in, and they viciously attack to protect their 'baby'. Yet when their 'baby' rapes and kills someone, they are essentially innocent and can do no wrong.

That is why Liberals claim to be tolerant of others... until you disagree with them.

This is why a matriarchal west is a violent nightmare and will be our doom.

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very disappointed to see dr. peterson lower himself to speaking with stefan fucking molyneux. i'd rather he go on joe rogan again.

You need to post the link, Stef.

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peterson is a madman and way above talking to a former ancap national socialist

Great video, Jordan dives into the foundations of ideological thought and makes a case for why religion is intrinsic to the survival of civilization. Stefan just agrees and contributes nothing of value, Peterson is obviously on another level.

Pretty sure most the viewers on Stefans show also wanted to know most what Jordan had to say.

Can anyone explain to me what these fucks think Fascism is? All I hear from these idiots is "Fascism is bad", never have they even remotely touch on what makes it bad.

He is a level above but Stef is not terribly far behind. Stefan was late to the game to recognize the childishness of anarchy / libertarian / "free market solves everything" /. atheist. I only started watching him due to the election season last year but just from that time I can see him apologizing for his dumb beliefs in those realms. He's obviously a weird guy if he believed this 20 year old college kid bullshit into his 40s but he is smart.

His comments on McCarthy and the history of Islam in the West are high level

same thing happened with Rogan, for the first time Joe just didn't talk cause he was blown away buy this due.

also sweet trips

Stefan has made the case very passionately as well. He's likened religion to a raft that humanity drifted along on, and atheism is few wildly intelligent people hacking away at the raft, not realizing the potential consequences of what they were doing. Great thinkers projected their own ability to be moral and find meaning without religion onto the general population.

fascism is bad because it didn't kill enough communists

Peterson tweeted that it's not who he speaks with but what he says that's important.

Hey guys, I pay into his patreon fund, and have a 30 min meeting with him soon. What should I ask?

Also please post rare petersons

Achievable natty?

His views on Christianity were interesting.

Waiting for the day he goes down the jewish rabbit hole.

he's smart enough to not touch the jewish thing.

if the tribe were to put their sights on him he'd be in big trouble

ask him what's he dying from

Ask him about what you can do to protect the West.

Post results later

Yeah he doesn't look too good.

He's lost a lot of weight and does look sick.

Maybe he's just really depressed and stressed.

...

Ask him when it's finally morally ok to gun down SJW cunts in the fuckin street.

I may well be the Auschwitz guard, and I may well enjoy it. And I'm fully awake and aware of myself.

"There are no strings on me..."

Peterson won't touch the JQ and racial differences, how's he on another level when he's not willing to admit basic facts? You're just another fan girl wowed by the way he speaks and the fact that his ideas don't get heard everyday.

Towards the end of the Molyneux discussion, he says of the new Commies something to the effect of:

>"I wouldn't be surprised if there are some people rubbing their hands together at the thought of another 100,000,000 corpses"

>rubbing their hands together

Dude wtf is with that image to the video? Peterson doesn't look like such a geezer in any other vid.

The problem with fascism is if the core group of people controlling the government are flawed, the whole country suffers.

That's partially why Germany went from terrifying superpower into a field of ashes.

Berlin was defended by fucking children for fuck's sake, that's how bad they fucked up.

The longer the war, the younger the soldiers.

Fascist governments can't really simply exist, and govern, without something like a war to keep the economy going and keep industrial jobs going. Rarely have their been fascist governments who existed when they weren't participating in a war

He's depressed and also went on a diet to fight depression, and lost a lot of weight in the process. Also fighting against GODDAM BLOODY NEO-MARXISTS takes its toll on you.

Thank you Canada for your thread, I completely agree and you just blew my mind as to how obvious that is. You know, some Canadians will be spared on the day of the rake but you may have just helped the whole day from not happening altogether.

I guess he is just so advanced that it pains him continually to see people act so foolishly at every turn.

ask him what he thinks of /ourguy/ richard spencer

Basically suffrage was a mistake.

#repealthe19th

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the moment i see a hot, perfect pair of tits like that, and a body like that with that face... I instantly want to start looking at porn. that's my instant response. i'm going to do the opposite and plan how I'm going to get out and meet a cool babe who will cook me a meal instead.

Works for me.

The main thing is self confidence.

If you can look an attractive women in the eyes, and not flinch or look away, just with a passing glance, for 5 or so seconds with her reciprocating, and you aren't really ugly, theres a pretty good chance she'll smile at you.

Have a preconceived notion in your head of you being this greco-roman statue like stoic man. A creator of western civillization.

Its cocky, but they can sense the vibes when you're really confident.

Also fapping makes you a robot neckbeard, so do it as little as possible.

god forbid you let your guest speak

In his interview with gad saad he talked about how he resonates with the ultra far right and how disgusting he thought they were, so i guess he at least must have been or seen Sup Forums once

ask him to Praise KEK
what may be a future country and religion
Ask him about pepe

how many of you see yourself as a half-jackass who needs to die and reborn? Or can see how that did happen to you?

Check'ed
Praise KEK

If there are problems in your life, maybe ask how you should approach them. But 30 mins isn't a long time, might not get a good answer.

Satan confirms, This makes sense. I haven't watched the show yet, but I'm pretty excited too.

I will ask him if he is taking care of himself for sure

He'll say no to that, remember the nuremburg trials and how all good civ relies on the fact people have free will

I picked up that too, I'm going to ask him if he browses Sup Forums

I'll ask, but I know not who he is

He talks about pepe in a youtube video, metaphysics of pepe

My life is pretty together, and I did his authoring programs and felt as though I didn't need to take drastic action. My life is very full of meaningful things, I work in a medical field, volunteer with youth, take care of my wife and family, and stay busy reading/working out/learning/exploring the outdoors in my spare time. I suppose what is left for me is to make a difference in bigger spheres of influence, perhaps in the political landscape

Also I don't drink or smoke, pic related. Gotta say I thank my family and their deep christian values for steering me in the right direction.

this

Peterson is just a not retarded liberal, which makes him shocking. hes a late enlightenment idealist, but still a total "egalitarian" and therefore fundamentally delusional about human biodiversity and its destabilizing effects on this planet

Its refreshing to hear this kind of wisdom regarding religion and strong culture, combined with the autistic Utopian whigism of the left, but hes the opposite of a fascist

is there a peterson essentials video list? i feel lost just watching any video without even know whats going on

Does anyone feel like Jordan doesn't want to be deified like Stefan does? Jordan I think will be happy to sell us the cure instead of the treatment

I thought the Joe Rogan one was a pretty good summary of his current work.

He will talk about racial differences, but if he's going to stay legit he needs to go slow. don't you know how this works?. his twitter feed is constantly posting about scientific articles that blow out lefties who are making a mess of gender notions. He's focussing on ideologies, so he will be able to tackle the JQ without reeking of antisemitism, and he already does talk about how black men are ruining america.

This man Peterson is our friend, he fights for freedom.

Ask him if he thinks freedom and level headed society can be maintained when the white population is replaced

Stefan is good and pulls a lot of weight but I agree that Peterson is more fluent and deductive in his explanations. This video really turned me on to Peterson's thinking.

Same idea as what they say about socialists.

Commies never think the problem is communism, just failures of poor leadership. "If I was in charge it would've worked."

The mental midgets like you pushing fascism don't see it as totalitarian because in your imagination you are the one running it and everything is just like you want it. Except, that isn't how things actually work out.

the one with joe rogan
his maps of meaning lectures
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the metaphysics of pepe
the rights of the individual

Also: his talks on existentialism are phenomenal. Specifically the ones on authenticity.

He has a great segment of a lecture on psychedelics as well.

The left is so uptight and rigid in their worship of diversity and openness. Which could be because these traits are maternal in nature. Drawing from the mother archetype you get a sort of rigidness in response to protection of the child; extending macro to protection of the weak, downtrodden and voiceless. As admirable and essential as this motivation may be, it has to be balanced with the masculine Individual, in self-reliance. As in, the letting go of the child, which expands to, letting individuals face the burden of responsibility. Not wanting to offend, returning to Leftist humor, coddles of mind, as to ensure the reduction of suffering and give them a safe environment to cultivate themselves. To do this on a societal level, creates a collective hive mind of the Oedipal Mother archetype. This pathological embodiment is equally as destructive, as an extreme equivalent Great Father archetype.

The over-coddling Mother mentality creates selfless, hollow individuals without a core and could point to why it's a rigid, hollow monolith of Political Morality. Similar to Marxist views of power and hierarchies, they have to keep a mental catalogue of these concepts in humor, so that they only criticize or ridicule the 'powerful' and not the 'weak'. This makes for many uptight 'moral accountants', categorizing anyone they engage with then, conjuring a calculated polite, liberal response. Humor based in this system, can still be funny for a while, sure. However, now that we have been in a Left wing dominated mainstream culture, for thirty years or more. Gradually growing in scope and power, we are at an apex of leftist cultural domination and extremism in America and the West, their narrative is becoming violent and equivalently rigid.

>what a fucking retarded analogy...kys leaf.

jesus fuck
Peterson looks disillusioned as fuck

>If you extend this maternal instinct into politics, where minorities like Syrian refugees and Muslims are the protected "infants", these groups can basically do no wrong.
But what determines what groups of people become the "infants" that women viciously defend? Is there any way we can get women to perceive the White race as the "infants"?

The democratic party will be the one who will declare civil war at 2020 when Donald Trump wins again as their lat chance to grip on to power

That's Stefan looked like when he first took the red pill

Peterson is playing out the jesus meta hero archetype. he will speak with anyone to get his message out to the public. He is trying to save all those young men on the far right from becoming the monster those on the far left have such a desire to create.

Checked


Its the first time I see Stef Ego shut up and laugh honestly and sincerely and absorb the mans words.
I was laughing as well seeing Stef smile like a child.


I like Stef even with all the warts, Jordan and the rich unknown world of Jung, Mircea Eliade and comparative religion\mythology must have been a big red pill for a previous Rand robot.

disagreeing makes you a predator, and by directing the maternal instincts back onto actual infants and depoliticizing them

Actually it's very accurate.

This.

Peterson is great and all but he is naive. It's not simply Christianity but the people themselves that make the west what it is. Demographics are just as important religion.

But why do they view Muslims as the infants as opposed to the predators?

Which ever side appeals more to their victim-ness or something like that.

>what these fucks think Fascism is
right-wing collectivism that inevitably devolves into totalitarianism

i think he's wrong about that. the left is self-righteous and believes their indignation is just. everybody always believed their cause was just when they were committing any genocide or war in history. the biggest thing is there's a divide which is why it happens.

men and women are divided. women live in a society in which they're inferior to men. men did everything in history while women did nothing. now women tell themselves they're equal, but equality is a myth. so, they despise men and want to destroy/replace them

peterson talked about the cain and abel story which hits the mark. cain is unhappy that abel is so successful so he goes and murders him. it's the exact same shit with women again men. inferiority breeds this. look at south africa and how they blame everything on whites even after they have all the political power and they still want to murder them for fun.

But how do you appeal to women's "victim-ness"? Isn't it possible that we could get women to see Whites as being the victims?

Just because he doesn't touch them doesn't mean he doesn't believe the facts.

You do realize it's possible to think white nationalism is stupid while also believing in racial differences?

No picture is complete, no model of human behavior is completely accurate. As soon as you think you have it all figured out suddenly people do something you didn't anticipate and your whole model falls apart.

What is important is you don't venerate Peterson. You take his ideas, which borrow heavily from Jung, and incorporate them into your own internal models of reality. If you just follow what he says 100% then you have turned some good ideas into an ideology and that would be the last thing he would want you to do.

too much redpills.

Any group the left has managed to appear marginalized will get coddled by people who have adopted a heavily maternal world view.. Its probably done through media manipulation and educational propaganda.

this is the best post i have ever read on pol.

this needs to be repeated.

>men and women are divided. women live in a society in which they're inferior to men. men did everything in history while women did nothing. now women tell themselves they're equal, but equality is a myth. so, they despise men and want to destroy/replace them
This is the major advantage to artificial wombs. It will then be far less effective to divide and conquer a society based on gender.

This is why we need counter-propaganda to make us look like the marginalized victims.

It seems like the left and right are gearing up perfectly and approaching the catastrophic fight of worldviews that was never really resolved back in WWII. I mean, it was resolved by force and after that, I think people were just willing to ignore it as much as possible to avoid further destruction, but the ideas themselves weren't worked through, so the conflict fundamentally is unresolved.

How can the conflict be taken forward and resolved on the field of ideas, in order to prevent a near-future situation where we all end up with millions of people in extermination camps?

It seems like what we really have to do is convince the left to engage with the extreme right on some field of debate. But that's a de-escalation from where we are now, which is that the extreme right started trolling in response to the left saying all conservative ideas are inherently violent, thus the right's trolling is a response to the left shutting out debate. But the left won't back down and become more agreeable now by seeing that we've gained power through peaceful means (memes and elections).

It's like the whole situation is a knot that just becomes tighter as people pull on it from either side, until an outbreak of violence. How can it be undone?

the victim is themselves and anybody that is less than white males. patriarchy is the enemy of feminism. you know what patriarchy is? white men. they defined their century+ goal of destroying white men and anybody who they can get to join their cause they'll take.

in the 60's it was minorities/sexual deviant for example. they just continually invent stuff and try and open the tent wider and gather anybody they can get to help destroy white men.

they do no care about equality at all. if they did then it's impossible for them to join together with rap culture or islam

You guys should really read Mircea Eliade.

He goes deep in Mythological interpretations more heavily, Jordan of course uses easy to understand passages from the bible and greek mythology, even fucking disney movies but the grand Story of Mankind and the Hero\Individual myth goes much deeper.

I shivered a bit when Jordan spoke of "Suffering", he seemed to become Buddha for a little moment.

That will never work because the white man is already codified as the oppressor. You can't play that game what we need is a new game. Getting the whole of a country to play a new game with a new unifying narrative may be impossible but that is the only option.

The only other choice is authoritarianism, darkness, and despair.

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patriarchy is white men. their most holy belief is smashing patriarchy or white men. they've defined their goal of white male genocide a century ago and everything is for that purpose.

>hates females
>hates gays
>just like a mud
>...and hates muds

wew!, /nihilists/...

This.

Sadly I see no way out, not being nihilist, we need the sacred fire to purify us again.

Protecting your cubs is one thing.

Screaming like a monkey at others who hasn't harmed you is another completely different thing.

If your 'infant' fucks someone up, then you fuck your own infant up as well. If you don't, you're not a good mother

>the victim is themselves and anybody that is less than white males
True, but this is largely based on the anti-White propaganda that the media constantly shills. Women didn't always coddle non-Whites, or else the White race would have gone extinct long ago. Women are also hypergamous, and therefore should prefer men they perceive as being high status.

Terrible idea.

Transhumanism is the mark of the beast.

Otherwise I agree.

I recommend listening to all of these:

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Why is transhumanism a terrible idea and the "mark of the beast"?

>It's like the whole situation is a knot that just becomes tighter as people pull on it from either side, until an outbreak of violence. How can it be undone?

I don't think it can, that is what worries me the most. There are a few, on both sides of the spectrum and a few that straddle between, that recognize the dangerous path we are on but no one is able to convince any group of people to sit down and talk it out.

Peterson talks about the frog diving into the water to rescue the treasure and become the prince. Many feel Trump is that person but I fear he is the exact opposite, he is the trickster that will take us into the depths, not out of malice but out of incompetence. I guess I am just happy I am a white man who can afford enough booze to keep me numb to the future because I can see no escape.

>and he already does talk about how black men are ruining america.
When? Also I agree with you about letting him go slow. He made a good tweet once about how we've given up our common identity for multiculturalism, which inevitably ends up as identity politics.

The ironic part of that image is I bet all you leftist fags got together to take that photo.

he gets into the rate of families that stay together in black america, and the destruction of the family unit leading to gang issues, and crippling black women very badly. He mentions all the time about how terrible not having a man provide for a woman who has a baby can be. He makes a case for there being generational degredation, and in his new years message to the world, virtually begs young men to take sex seriously- lest we become like the people who don't (and also have no religious framework, like latinos do)

He said its a fact jews are most likely to suffer from mental illness

A bottle of crown royal costs 3 times as much in my own fucking country.

This is what I fear. What if this magical "golden ball" is something within reach, but we haven't gotten a hold of it? We're obviously far enough on the fringe that we can function as outsiders looking in, and that if we found out what the secret was we could present it and become heroes for it. There's Wikileaks, there's Trump, there's Alex Jones, there's even Peterson himself, there's the redpill threads, memes, etc. but there doesn't seem to be this one thing that makes people go "FINALLY!" and we risk losing ourselves and aging rapidly in this abyss.

It wasn't resolved during the French Revolution, Nor the Russian, nor the first world war where Noble Europe took the oil from the lanterns itself to light, nor in the second world war when Germany most noble of all nations couldn't die without a fight, not during the cold war in which the pragmatists went against the idealists who became nihilists, it will be resolved when the vampires are killed and the druids lose their purpose.

I buy cheep as fuck box wine, on average about 8 or 9 bottle equivalents a week. If I don't drink it I can always cook with it