Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

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youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazino_affair
blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/TOENSING.pdf
hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI
un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=ST/ADM/SER.B/932
macs.hw.ac.uk/~greg/publications/ccm.IJUC07.pdf
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I see now your power.

It is the power of never learning.

PS. Daily reminder to give free helicopter rides to communists.

A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution.

>advanced productive technology that enables material abundance
Humanity has been capable of producing vast surpluses for quite a while now user, yet the whole commushit thing just quite doesn't seem to work now does it? See

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youtube.com/watch?v=CmOUDMAtRt4
youtube.com/watch?v=Jqv1out48E4
>debunked ideology
into the trash it goes
>gibsme dat ideology
into the trash it goes
>ideology that failed 100% of the time
Into. The trash. It goes.

A communist society would free individuals from long working hours by first automating production to an extent that the average length of the working day is reduced and second by eliminating the exploitation inherent in the division between workers and owners. A communist system would thus free individuals from alienation in the sense of having one's life structured around survival (making a wage or salary in a capitalist system), which Marx referred to as a transition from the "realm of necessity" to the "realm of freedom." As a result, a communist society is envisioned as being composed of an intellectually-inclined population with both the time and resources to pursue its creative hobbies and genuine interests, and to contribute to creative social wealth in this manner. Karl Marx considered "true richness" to be the amount of time one has at his or her disposal to pursue one's creative passions.Marx's notion of communism is in this way radically individualistic.

How to destroy enemy nations:
>ship commies there
>pay commies to spread their ideology
>try to make commie ideology flourish
>success, that place is now a shithole behind the rest of the world for a century or so.

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Did someone say National Socialism thread?

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Mutualist here.

Tankies are not welcome on Sup Forums, take your state capitalist ass somewhere else.

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Die faggot

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>in the spirit of communism

This shit isn't even a discussion thread, it's just blatant propaganda at this point. Hidalgo over here just spews the same shit over and over again, hoping one of his (((allies))) comes to save the day for him.

Fucking tankie fascists, GET OFF MY BOARD!
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

youtube.com/watch?v=LZDJUTYDiq8

>that sweet spirit of communism

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if I claim my house as private property and lock the door am I committing treason?

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Fuck commies! Hail Hitler.

Cultural Marxism =/= Marxism

How about you get yourself educated instead of being a class cuck?

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Here's some more of that spirit o'communism you like.

I might go to /leftypol/ and make some rather valuable contributions to various discussions. I think if we all did that every time we one of these threads, they might not feel like they have to visit us so much.

We'd be doing them a favour.
I call it 'the final solution to the /leftypol/ question'

And how pray tell would a communist society pay for these automation machines? Keep in mind that many of these metals and materials will need to imported so unless you implement global communism then you can't abolish capital, which opens up a whole can of worms regarding how you implement that.

It's a nice idea but you're full of shit

Wait!I though you guys said my generals were ignored/not problematic, make up your minds. Why do you want to censor political doctrines discussion comrade? Is like you are...

Marxism leads to Cultural Marxism, you Kike.

Of course communism is global.

No, it doesn't. Marxism is modernization and liberation of culture, not its destruction.

can private property exist in a communist society?

Only personal property.

>make up your minds.
That's funny, we get called a hivemind quite a lot. Interesting how we actually have quite a diverse array of opinions and nationalities here isn't it?
>Why do you want to censor
You misunderstand user, it must be a bother having to come here, I'm merely proposing to save you the trouble by visiting /leftypol/. I'm trying to help you user.

You Said I Was A Dreamer
youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg

ask your fellow comrades on reddit
or are they notrealsocialist?

We have tons of redpills prepared for you on the other side my future comrade.

>literally had to cherry pick isolated events all over planet earth to criticize capitalism
>"in communism everyone would be loving saint!"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazino_affair
>6000 people forcefully deported from their homeland to an empty island
>commies though they would just sort themselves out and magically make a communist community
>markets and prices were illegal
>people started dying
>health officials started to find corpses that got cannibalized
>50 people had to be arrested for cannibalism
>4000 of the original 6000 died

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>discussion
there's as much discussion in here as there was in sarah andersen threads. now i'm not going to censor your opinions (can't anyhow), but 2bh your threads are just pure propaganda fodder with the same bullshit spewed over and over again

examples:
and
have all been posted in previous threads, word for word. going back to discussion though, especially in regards to yourself, you don't ever contribute shit. you spout off memes until someone more intelligent than you attempts to defend your views, but then continue to spout the same shit or ignore arguments that you cannot counter with some regurgitated memespeak. all im saying is, your quality is lacking my friend and there is no indication that it'll ever evolve into anything better

A multitude of systems, all failed.

it's a doggy dog world

>Marxism is modernization
>modernization
>created in the 19th century
Wat

But how would you establish it? Why would resource rich countries give away wealth and resources for no gain? Because it's nice? Get real.

cute!

>Hello Comrades

Do you want it to evolve to anything better mr.skellington?

porky?

PEE pee into my poo poo plelasee

First you need all countries to become socialist states.

and what will you do if certain countries resists?

I do. And you're the catalyst of that, but you do nothing.

Removing all outdated aspects used to create class differences and religious dogmas, enslaving people physically and mentally, is modernization of society.

Now go be a wage slave while your boss knocks up your wife, cuck.

>gommies calling anyone skelligton.

ayy lmao

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Don't ask them hard questions user.

Kek

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Fight back against capitalists.

typical.

dont fight back against my pee pee into ur bummy XDDDD

> fight back
Top kek

This is your answer? Holy shit.

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class differences
Oy Vey some people how it better than me.
>religious dogmas
Tips Fedora
>>enslaving people physically and mentally
Oh uh mom wants me to to move out and get a job.

W R O N G

You should know that all females in communists states are either dead or dying from famine, or are you NOT A REAL SOCIALIST

>Tips Fedora
Prove to me your religion is real. The burden of proof is on you, since it's you proving the existence.

>Oh uh mom wants me to to move out and get a job.
But you got a job where you do all the work, but get 1% of the profits. Wow, you're such a free and independent individual. Do you at least get a free lunch in your sweat shop?

You commie dumb fuck, your beloved Bernie and wife tried to buy property (40 acres) from a Catholic Church accused of child molestations also needing the money to pay off lawyer fees.

blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/TOENSING.pdf

The Sanders are not perfect, they are now owned by Soros and his people. Your wasted donation.

And you haven't worked a day in your life.

Communism a shit

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>Do you at least get a free lunch in your sweat shop?
BEHOLD! THE HORRORS OF CAPITALISM

kindly fuck off to kikebook

I have worked in my village, where we have common land. We all get equal share there, rather than 1% to the worker, 99% to the owner who bought that property with someone else's money.

And these statistics wouldn't be funded by some capitalist organization, would they?

dude, we know what communism is

the infantile notion that if you give everything you own to the government it will take better car for it than you will

since no one in their right mind would do it, the communists took by force the means of production and promptly managed to run the industry to the ground

we are still recovering from their crap and will do so in the coming decades


fuck off and die

You left out the most important part

That communism can only happen through advanced industrial capitalism

t. Marx

so where does all the wealth goes when you've achieved your goal?

hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI
Just the UN.

Communism is a death cult

>UN
>not capitalist
un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=ST/ADM/SER.B/932

I'll second Bulgoris here. Communism fucked our mentality several times over.

You can't and won't find any statistics that put former soviet republics ahead of any of those countries and you know it.
Nowhere, he's larping.

>Prove to me your religion is real. The burden of proof is on you, since it's you proving the existence.
Well I can't because I'm a Apatheist.
>Do you at least get a free lunch in your sweat shop?
Well I'm Self-Employed, So yes I got a so called "free lunch".

So your dad told you to clean the house and help fix the roof?

Jesus Christ you are so brave.

Now, get a job and support your family and country, you pathetic excuse of a human.

>That look on Stalin's face
This has to be my favorite

youtube.com/watch?v=Jqv1out48E4
>following a debunked ideology
Autismo.

>Implying that Uncle Joe wouldn't be a little bit surprised to see Soviet symbolism co-opted by a band of left-liberal cucks

>implying stalin has feelings towards inanimate symbols

he was literally just using others to get his way while killing people left and right

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macs.hw.ac.uk/~greg/publications/ccm.IJUC07.pdf

Is Economic Planning Hypercomputational?

We have:

Timings for applying the planning algorithm to model economies of different sizes.
Timings were performed on a 3 Ghz Intel Zeon running Linux, with 2 GB of memory.
Industries Mean Inputs CPU Time Memory
N M seconds bytes
Law M =

N
1,000 30 0.1 150KB
10,000 100 3.8 5MB
40,000 200 33.8 64MB
160,000 400 77.1 512MB
320,000 600 166.0 1.5G
Law M ≈ log N
1,000 30 0.1 150KB
10,000 40 1.6 2.4MB
100,000 50 5.8 40MB
1,000,000 60 68.2 480MB
• questioned Murphy’s requirement that planning requires pre-knowledge
of all possible prices,
• argued that the domain of prices to which planning is applied is in principle
finite rather than infinite and that thus Cantor’s arguments are
inapplicable, or at worst prices are countable, and Cantor’s arguments
are applicable but irrelevant because there is no concievable requirement
that this domain be closed under diagonalisation,
• argued that planning over finite prices is tractable,
• shown that diagonalisation is not applicable to prices or commodities,
and
• discussed how infinite structures of predominantly zero values may be
given finite representations.
In conclusion we have shown that Murphy’s arguments are ill founded.
The computational feasibility of economic planning at a detailed level is an
issue that must be investigated in its own right, and cannot be settled by appeal
to Cantor. We have presente

oh look it's the same shitty anime pictures that he always posts. the same ones. the same ones. the same ones. dose he think they bump the thread? they don't because you can't self bump and everyone who replies to them sages the thread (or at least should)

Better thread

We have presented specific arguments that suggest that detailed
planning is indeed feasible.

Trying to read this hemorrhaged my brain