Do you ever feel like you missed out on nationalism?
Like, your nation isn't worth being nationalistic about and immigrating to somewhere that is will just make you an outsider.
The Soviets had national spirit down. So did the Nazis.
Americans do too and so do the British
They have symbols and an identity.
What do we have?
Commiserate with me, insignificant Sup Forums
I think the real issue here is forgetting where we came from.
Canada is worth being nationalistic about, we're just taught in school that nationalism = Hitler and the pervasive Canadian bitchness makes everyone too scared to be proud of this great nation
This is a problem of young nations. How old does a nation have to be before one can be proud of it? How old does your culture or race have to exist before it can be recognized?
No, it isn't
We suck at being nationalistic
Our forefathers tried to do it
The 19th century is littered with attempts
Do you know their best attempt?
A fucking epic poem about the railway
Do you know it?
Of course not
Because it was shit
Now, the Americans, now they know how to make a national identity
America is a young nation that has gotten national identity down fucking pat
There is something to be said about "being an American"
That has meaning
The early Americans managed to deify their leaders
Everyone knows Washington with the fucking cherry tree and his false teeth.
He's undergone apotheosis
Same with Lincoln.
And Teddy.
Americans have identity
There is such a thing to be an American
It doesn't exist for Canada.
Our past is dominated by British poor fucks coming over here and discovered it's shit
That's our identity
You guys had social credit movement.
That was pretty cool.
And then there's that whole God's Country thing.
Seems nationalistic.
Oh and Trailer Park Boys.
You have no idea how accurate Trailer Park Boys is
That's 95% of non-urban Canada.
The rest is drunk indians and a few whites trying to keep them civil
hmmm you kinda sound like a little bitch to me
It's true though
Our greatest national moment was dying a bunch in WW1
The rest of the time we're just cold Americans
>somebody did a bad job once so we'd better give up and hang our heads in shame forever
pathetic
Wake me up when we do something recognizable
Maybe annex Maine or Oregon or something
Or at least kick the fucking Danes off Hans Island
I'm all for nationalism and nationalism is the natural evolution of the sense of belonging one had in tribes, which is key for a community's survival. Simply enough, the greatest majority of Italians don't agree with me, for political and for other reasons deeply rooted throughout centuries of history. This resorts in a HUGE regionalism, which reflects a past in which people actually had to fight with the neighboring city-states in order to survive and keep their identities. There simply isn't a danger the citizens of the whole peninsula perceive to a point they feel like going beyond the fact they're grouped into a clusterfuck of centuries-old heterogeneous communities, hence placing their hopes and faith into the Nation. Reason why the real first time Italians got close to each other was in WWI. Reluctantly, but still..
You can take pride in that you were the first to slap America's shit in.
Nah, that was the British
Barely any of the troops were "Canadian" if there was such a thing then
In the 1812 war, they came up and were like "Canadians, let us help you liberate yourselves from the British!" and we were like "Egh, what's one boss next to another?"
We don't even have regionalism here
I mean, we do kinda, but it's so incredibly mild that it barely even registers
We've never been invaded. Never had to defend our way of life. Never even had a true civil war.
Identity is rooted in blood, but we've never split any.
That's why our battles in WW1 are such a big deal to the few nationalistic Canadians.
But the average person doesn't know shit about that
We're Americans by another name
Regionalism used to be much more apparent. The reason you feel you're missing out is because the rest of the west is experiencing an unprecedented wave of nationalism and anti- immigrant sentiment after frustrations boiled over. Simply put, Canada does not have any nationalists in the spotlight aside from Don Cherry. Every government since Pierre Trudeau's has been trying to brainwash Canadians by telling them we never had an identity. But we do, and many millions of Canadians aren't happy with the current state of the nation and would be glad to see an end to the Muslims and Chinese coming here. The problem is they have nobody to speak for them and speaking out themselves is illegal via "hate speech" laws. The silent majority is forced into remaining silent.
So what do? Speak out and potentially be ostracized or even potentially prosecuted? All our political parties are effectively the same on the issues that really matter like globalization and immigration.
It's not the politicians
I've studied Canadian Lit like a faggot
And it's the same all over
Canadian lit has four modes, in order of time
First: Canada is a beautiful God given country. It is close to God
Second: Canada is a God forsaken cold wasteland and we were tricked to come here
Three: Canada is more than a wasteland. It's something! We swear!
Four: Nothing is worth anything. Nature is unbeatable. Nature is God because God is a vengeful and hateful being
The secret fifth mode is total American assimilation
Our politicians are so sad they can't even pull Trump-esque manipulation and exploitation
The only part of Canada with an identity is Quebec.
It's mostly gone now.
There should be a movement to vote for one of the "fringe" parties - any of the fringe parties; any one of them would be better than the shit we keep getting.
I almost think if some random citizen was selected to run the country (sort of like jury duty) every 4 years it would be better than the shit we keep getting.
We can speak out but it's gotta be subtle. For example, the housing crisis would lead many liberals and diversity lovers to turn right on immigration. Same with job shortages, pollution, and urban sprawl. These are all issues people are concerned about and immigrants are making them worse. Of course I still hate Muslims and chinks for not speaking English, smelling like shit, and never acting Canadaian but I would never say that if I were an MP.
I'll get weird looks if I say I'm proud to be an American unironically. Jewish fear of nationalism has overtaken the Democrat party. I live in California though, so take that as you will. I feel like you and I have a lot in common, leaf. I wish I live in a non cucked community while under Trump for the next 8 years
Literally anything but red, blue, or orange.
One of the few consolations I take from the path we seem to be headed down is the death of Quebec culture. Our bending over for them on multiculturalism will also be their undoing. Pyrrhic victory, but still, fuck those guys.
>I almost think if some random citizen was selected to run the country (sort of like jury duty) every 4 years
That's some Greek republic shit
And a great idea
But the next best thing is to vote NDP next election
Doesn't matter their platform
They're gonna do the election reform
Trudeau's election showed that we want it
But the Liberals benefit too much from FPTP voting.
They'd never do it because they'd lose out
NDP has more to gain
Vote NDP for the electoral reform
No matter how cucked their short term values
Our Nationalism died back in 97.
Now it's like the Germans. The government makes you feel guilty for being nationalistic because they don't like what it's supposedly associated with.
They should be fucking purged.
>What do we have?
cheer up, canada has vaginationalism
Trump is a swindler
I know that's against the Sup Forums groupthink but it's true
What he sells is righteous
Being American is good
America for Americans
Assimilate or leave
All great things
But he's a bumbler.
Have you seen his press conferences? He's lost and dazed.
Asking for people who are right in front of him
He swindled America.
His ideas are sound. What he says he'll do is good
But he's not the man to do
He's smart enough to recognize what the people want, but not smart enough to enact those ideas
I'll never trust any of the globe trotter parties not to lie through their teeth just to get elected ever again. (Id just like to add that I didnt vote red or blue last election)
I think you guys should embrace your Britishness, becoming more Tory than Britain. Cut Quebec loose, it can be a cheap colony for both of us. Embrace your monarchy, you at least have THAT on us.
First you have to do something worth being proud about. Perhaps executing Trudeau and getting yourselves a 'Prince of Canada' as dictator might be the path to a Canadian future.
Also fix your fucking flag.
Honestly, Giuseppe, I don't know how you people tolerate the North being occupied by England.
I mean sure, the Troubles weren't exactly the most positive times, but man, you are Men of Eire.
Shouldn't all of you be wanting to be one nation?
But look, you guys have suffered long and hard, yet underneath that there is still something worth while
Think about this, I know you guys hate when an American/Canadian says "Oh I'm Irish" when his great grandfather was born in Ireland
But that's how it is here.
That's all we have
Our fucking great grandfather's birth place is a greater source of identity than our own birth.
you guys are basically just a buffer state between us and Russia. Any sort of "cultural talent" if you would call it that go to LA or maybe New York
You can only trust the NDP since they're perpetually third
They only have something to gain from a electoral reform
I mean you could also trust the Bloc but fuck them
This is quite true. The dream is always to make it big and move to 'Murica.
Canada nationalism died inside our youth when we made them learn and write down that the Canadian identity is a multicultural one. It's literally the only thing we tell them about. Sad. The only kind of nationalism that remains is independentists from Quebec, which are quite shitty and liberal. The only romantic nationalist thing I can come up with about Canadian culture is the song "degeneration" by Mes Aieux
Bullshit.
My family's Canadian (or American) as far back as I can trace any of my ancestors.
I might have some native blood for all I know. Other than that I'm basically a hodgepodge of different euro (mostly northern, scottish/french actually) - just like most other Canadian euro muts.
>Quebec
>liberal
Va chier osti
Me too, but you'll still see people saying "Oi I'm Irish"
While only one of their grandparents were born on the "Emerald Isle"
I guess if last names are anything to go by thats true.
But we all know its bullshit.
Hell who isn't irish on st pattys
If Quebec became independent tmr, it'd be a nationalist shithole in a matter of weeks
Fact.
I'm drunk on St Patty's t b h
Frogs are the only proud white people in cucknada,we defend our culture,heritage and our language.The wasp hate us for it because they would never speak out against there chink master since that would be politically incorrect.
So instead they hate other white people because that is what cucks do.
What other province in cucknada has politicians calling out the jews? news.nationalpost.com
trailer park boys is the only good thing to ever come out of cucknada and it is a creation of Mike (((Clattenburg)))
*I meant to say socialist
Cheers
Im maturing and into draft ale now.
worth every penny
fuck lagers.
>proud white people
>proud
You're fucking leeches.
It's not St Paddy's day, but I am drunk
A few beers and some rum
Sup Forums is best when a bit tanked
dumb leaf posters
Finns literally have nothing to say about shitposting
Fug
>Torilla tavataan
I don't know about that. I might be careless and go on a politically incorrect rant.
I'm sure we're being monitored.
Canadians? Monitored?
Oh no, the RCMP will come a knockin
Just don't download any Lisa Simpson porn
God damnit leaf get some stank in your step. You have every bit the same ability to claim viking whiteness as russia does. Youve got badass lumberjacks and Paul Bunyan and all that just lift and be strong AF. You guys took a beach in normandy too ffs
Do not despair when anglosphere economies fedralise we can reform the empire!
>Lisa Simpson porn
just google image searched that...
KEK
and fuck you, sir
I feel you bro. I gave it up, nothing to be proud about my country of birth (Argentina). I am nation-less.
you bend over backwards to accommodate every kind of primitive shitskin culture there is without ever daring saying a word and then you get mad because frogs actually have the courage to standout and fight for there own
stay cucked wasp men,it ain't a coincidence that every successful canadian strongman and ufc fighter is a frog
I'd rather him than the unabashed Globalist puppet.
Meanwhile in Quebec your hatred of wasps and Anglos has you bringing in North African Muslims and Haitians by the boatload because they speak French. Good luck retard.
>You guys took a beach in normandy too ffs
>perfectly the reason why noone has a sense of nationalism, identity and white pride today
Good riddance then!
might want to simmer down there deutchfreund, lest you get culturally enriched some more
of course you would, you are not a nations
you don't have 1 blood or 1 history
you can't understand it
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We have traditions, a national pride
Have a thing that you will never understand
If we shall have to - we will stand like a wall
Because we have indenticy and love our culture
The frog has a collection of really fucking serious looking frog gifs...
Serious question: Would the leafs here enjoy annexation by the U.S ?
Yes
Let us worship Washington and Lincoln and all the deified presidents in DC
I never said I hated the wasp,if that was the case I would never have bothered to learn english.I love my fellow white men,I just wish the Scottish,Irish and the British would get there balls back and fight for there country instead of taking it up the ass from the shitskins and then hating the frogs because that is the safe thing to do.
Sorry, but it seems, that you will lose some states.
I mean, seriously? Because us burgers would love that. We always think of Canada as defacto America anyway, just with wacky blue money and some french people.
Not me.
THere are 350 million of you fuckers.
And they'd all flood north if that happened.
I like our low population. Thats my main problem with immigration. I honestly couldn't care less where you're from. Fuck off we're full is my response.
But if it comes down to a choice between hundreds of millions of 3rd worlders and hundreds of millions of americans, its tough but I guess I'd have to take the americans...
I feel that way as an Australian. Don't get me wrong, we have done a lot of great things in the past, like inventing wifi and killing 90% of Aboriginals... but I have the feeling that I would be more patriotic if I was American or English.
pic semi-related
FUck off we're full
>Americans have nationalism down
>Lets annex some of their states
We could just annex you
National identity and pride comes from collective adversity. Thankfully, America was born out of a massive war and with top tier principles.
Being the strongest and most influential nation in human history also helps.
they are not 1 nation, idiot.
America is a field to several nations and only retard can discuss with this.
Canada is American anyways
We don't acknowledge it, but it's true
We are culturally identical
We watch your TV, see your movies, listen your music
We are Americans
The border is just a joke
The only part of Canada not American is Quebec and based Newfoundland, b'y
>Being the strongest and most influential nation in human history
okay.
take Crimea back and destroy communist Vietnam
because you are """strongest"""
Build your national spirit. Create a unified Canada.
The Quebecois have it down. Work on Anglo-Canada.
I get your point about the population, but why would people flood to Canada? I could see a rise at first but that wouldn't last very long. There's a still a pretty strong respect for the individuals states and where you come from at a local level, you only move if you have to or if you absolutely hate where you live.
It isnt too late. The reason America woke up is because of "conspiracy theorists" like me who woke up all of my friends and woke people up online.
You have to put the work in.
Nice try faggot, but united Canada will speak French, because it's, objectivity, the better language.
>t. Pyccкий Oккyпaнт
We're the strongest country in the world. We have the most force projection.
We aren't retarded. You have nuclear weapons and Vietnam Gooks aren't worth continuous bloodshed.
Now the "conspiracy theories" I was telling people about are mainstream like jewish supremacy in politics and the media lies.
Mexicans will show your real place in the next 50-150 years
I also know how make Russia stronger than USA but I will not say it here
(((PJW))) I knew it was you i read that whole thing in your voice.
E Pluribus Unum my ruskie friend
I don't think that nuclear weapon will be a big reason to China to not occupy us. And they will do it someday, everyone here understands it.
You are a lot more nationalist that we are.
For example Putin is not russian, but nobody cares a big here, but you know who is english, who german, who italian, it proves that you are not a nation.
praise kek
Play Europa Universalis 4.
Plenty of colonialism, imperialism, nationalism and just good ole fashioned primitive genocide.
Tip: Get the mod that makes Native, Arabic, and Asian cultures have realistic penalties to tech again... Paradox fucked up the original mechanics....
we have different words
russkie - russians by ethnicy
rossijane - russians by citizenship
you wouldnt understand bud. Genealogy is an amusing hobby for us, but what makes a nation is an idea and a culture. Even the blacks here have a distinctly american culture, though it needs a lot of work.
>For example Putin is not russian
What? Was he not born in Russia to Russian parents?
>the soviets had nationalism
Getting executed for not clapping long enough will tend to make the population more nationalistic by default.
he has different ethnicy, he isn't slav
his national language is closer to Finnish, but he doesn't speak it
our victories are your victories user
canada is the height of british and french culture laws and values
you have achieved what we could not,live side by side with the FUICKING FRENCH!!!! and managed to live in harmony and not kill each other
not going to lie though, i have great respect for the russian solidarity
i think its the duck and the poutine. shit is delicious.
nigga the whole world is like that
you have nothing in common with america
your govt and even public opinions are different
just becuase you watch freinds and have a mcdonalds dont make you a burger vassal state
Fair enough. I look forward to the day when we can unite in purging the shit from this country.
I hope all the poles will be deporthed back to Poland, even if they don't know a word in Polish anymore.
Please do it
Minus mexico You guys went through pretty much did the same shit we did, were just louder about it.
Innhe Georgian?