Nazis, neo-nazis, and alt-right troglodytes openly confess wanting to mass murder people, openly engage of guerilla tactics to deface and defame ordinary, working people.
Keeping that in mind, explain to me how exactly it's controversial to suggest punching nazis.
Have to say you're right... guess I'm a Commie-rocket now
>it's controversial to suggest punching nazis.
They arent nazis?
Real neo-nazis are actually dangerous. I wouldnt want to start a fight with them
>Nazis, neo-nazis, and alt-right troglodytes openly confess wanting to mass murder people, openly engage of guerilla tactics to deface and defame ordinary, working people.
Where?
>Keeping that in mind, explain to me how exactly it's controversial to suggest punching nazis.
Because the people you're punching aren't Nazis or Neo-Nazis and they have a higher chance of being armed.
In other words: you try and harm me for political differences, you're getting two in the chest and one in the head
R.I.P Germany
>Where?
Literally here, on Sup Forums, for example. People are being attacked often for nothing more than voicing their opinion, or disagreeing with trump -- suddenly, it's "cuck cuck cuck cuck", et cetera, all day long.
That may seem like a joke at first, but consider what happened with the whole pizzagate thing, some dude actually ended up "visting" the place with a rifle. Could have gone a lot worse, though, thankfully it did not.
This shit is not okay, it creates serious problems.
>Because the people you're punching aren't Nazis or Neo-Nazis and they have a higher chance of being armed
>In other words: you try and harm me for political differences, you're getting two in the chest and one in the head
You assume the opposition is unarmed. Not a wise thing to believe.
>You assume the opposition is unarmed. Not a wise thing to believe.
>punch someone
>get shot dead
It's almost like dead corpses can't punch people anymore. Or are you saying that you're going to start shooting people you think are Neo-Nazis?
>Calling someone a cuck is the same as punching them
This is why your country is cucked ahmed.
>Or are you saying that you're going to start shooting people you think are Neo-Nazis?
I'm saying that you believe that "the other side" isn't armed in a manner befitting the situation.
Also, the word you're looking for is "defense". It's the alt-right (a.k.a. neo-nazis) that would shoot brown people for no other reason than existing.
Some nazis can change. Hard to believe, I know. Maybe you'll understand when you've grown up.
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>implying antifa and the far-left doesn't do the same
All authoritarians are scum.
The extreme left say that anyone that disagrees with them is a nazi. Anyone that is a national socialist is Hitler's SS incarnate in these peoples eyes. The definition of Nazi is being pushed into expansion everyday. Eventually everyone that disagrees with someone will have a black eye because everyone is a Nazi.
You should look up the 20 year plan
I will only respect a man who knows what he is fighting for.
Evidence supporting your claims, please.
>mass murder people
Antifa wants cis white males and conservatives dead
>guerilla tactics
You beat and shoot people in the street
You use the internet to organize
You call anyone who is to the right of Marx a fascist
Piss off. You're just as harmful to society.
>grandparents are Volgaduetch
>some are gulag'd by commies, others flee to America
Yea, fuck commies.
Also why do you guys never fight nazis or fascists in Cheyenne WY , or Worcester Mass, or Norfolk BA
Norfolk Virginia that is
I agree. For the sake of argument, I'm not antifa, nor far-left.
I guess I'm just the kind of asshole who thinks that attacking people based on ethnicity, race, religion, et cetera, is a shitty thing to do.
What does that have to do with anything? It's like saying that the westboro baptist church defines christianity. There is no correlation.
Westbroro were assholes but never burnt cars or maced women
Because punching people based on there political leanings is something a nazi would do. so if you "punch nazis" you should punch yourself you faggot.
Antifa beat, shoot, kill people. Torch buildings, set bombs. Tell me why we shouldn't start the ovens.
The words change, the labels change, the names change, and the sides even change.
but the actions speak the truth and show the world who the demons really are.
Enjoy your rapegangs Hanz.
And average everyday folks do?
Can you even pretend for 5seconds that the world is in fact not black and white? That there are people who just want to live in peace?
Must be a difficult concept to grasp.
Replace nazis with the left.
Pol is satire you retard
Sup Forums is a board of peace
>Wants to live in peace
>Punches people for there opinions
Fucking german faggot.
>openly engage of guerilla tactics to deface and defame ordinary, working people.
damn nazis, blocking roadways punching moderates. oh wait that's the left.
Well Nazis would say it's wrong to punch them because they don't want to be punched. That's pretty much all there is to it from their perspective: if there's a stigma against punching nazis, then they can walk the streets without fear of being punched, so naturally they'll tend to say you shouldn't punch them.
I guess I should also address why a liberal would be against punching Nazis. I'm assuming this is the answer you're more interested in hearing, as you're presumably an anarchist or communist who is baffled by liberals shaming the far left for punching Nazis.
You need to understand that liberalism is all about 'processes' and 'standards.' Liberalism is founded on all kinds of gay shit like, "people should have a right to defend themselves from accusations in a court of law," and "physical violence is not an appropriate response to mere words unless those words pose a clear and present danger (i.e. shouting fire in a crowded building." With these fundamentals established, we can extrapolate way a liberal might not approve of punching Nazis:
1) It seems like an affront to due process. To a liberal, you really need to prove an accusation before it is to be taken seriously. So "punching Nazis" in the street seems like using vigilante justice against potentially innocent people who have been singled out for some superficial characteristic, like wearing a red hat or sporting an undercut with hair gel. To the liberal mind, this all smacks of 'witch hunt' and mob justice.
2) It seems to be encourage violence as retaliation against non-violent actions. Liberalism generally values free speech, to the point that using physical violence in retaliation to mere words is seen as inappropriate. To the liberal, having an 'open marketplace of ideas' is important, even if it means allowing some Nazi ideas to seep in there without immediate physical retaliation.
TL;DR: punching nazis is bad because u might actually punch an innocent person.
Beating some sense into someone who wants to murder people for being different used to be considered "education".
I guess soft, precious, unique snowflakes like you cannot handle being told you're wrong.
I just want nations to peacefully separate and balkanize. Should I get punched?
Ordinary working people are on our side, you bloodsucking antifa faggot. This is the workers' and peasants' revolution you claimed you wanted. The class war is on. And we are going to win.
Kill yourself. Save the real working class the price of a bullet. George Soros doesn't pay for ours.
>Liberalism is founded on all kinds of gay shit like, "people should have a right to defend themselves from accusations in a court of law," and "physical violence is not an appropriate response to mere words unless those words pose a clear and present danger
You're advocating attacking people. Yes it really is just that easy
A nazi telling me to gas the likes can be ignored. A commie beating up someone because they don't like his hat cannot
Because the """"nazis"""" you punch might not have been those specific ones to advocate for wanting to mass murder people
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How do you know they want to murder someone? Are you clairvoyant? Because communist DID murder people in my family, so by your logic am I justified to run over ever crowd of red banner waiving LARPers?
A real Nazi wouldn't be at that those rallies or on the street counter protesting, and if they were punching them would usually come at the cost of getting knifed or shot.
>being this pathetic.
Darn you right. Non-profit calls for mass murder and armed lefty youth. Must have overlooked that shit.
Regardless of the seriousness of this guy, I guarantee this is how media and activist lefties come to these types of conclusions.
>visit Sup Forums
>horrified af
>WHY DO YOU FIND SO HARD TO BELIEVE?
>WHY DO YOU FIND IT SO EASY?
>IT'S NEVER BEEN EASY!
You could try going to school first, learning about the magic that is diplomacy.
I mean, you hardly know what balkanization even is, let alone what actually caused it (in the balkan, mind you).
Are they, though? Because most trumplodytes appear to be lower-class people, with zero education, dependend on state healthcare, and no sense outside of their own gated, bloated ideas.
Doesn't sound like someone who integrates into society.
I advocate punching assholes, you mean.
It's easy, you can usually find them arguing about getting rid of democracy, building walls, and bombing cities in countries whose name they cannot pronounce.
I was told by my liberal parents that I could be anything I wanted to be.
So I studied animism, paganism and shamanism, and realized that I wanted to be an Asian woman. Autistically, I got into character, and that meant being a superstitious religious conservative - Falun Gong was a big part of my new self.
I cultivated this new Self for years, and around late 2014 I came out of the closet. I never tried to pass myself off as an actual Asian woman, but I argued as if I were one, explained who I really was, and just kept going in character.
I was frustrated that liberals refused to support me in my self-actualization. They were insistent that I was going to be a Fucking White Male or a tranny, and wanting to be an Asian was sin to them.
On the other hand, the right would engage with me. They hated me, but they would discuss the subject - liberals just screamed. I came to realize that liberals never discussed anything - they nodded with agreement. Conservatives fought and disagreed, and were funner to have a debate with.
So, for the first time, I tried being a white woman. Suddenly, I realized that liberals had indoctrinated me into self-hatred. I explored this new identity, and it was natural to be prideful - I knew that from my study of third world cultures. Nazism was the natural end result of my self-love.
I came to Nazism through liberalism, because I was taught that I could be anything I wanted to be. I was raised to never let others tell me who I am. Now you want to control my identity, because it's grown to include something you don't like?
Let me define myself, you liberal tyrant. You've pissed off the snowflakes now, and if you oppress us, you prove yourself to be a hypocrite. And we're going to complain and oppress you mercilessly, because your ideology lets us, and the moment you do we're going to nail your balls to the floor.
Everyone hates you, liberal. Even your LGBT pets hate you.
I support their calls to violence. I hope more videos surface of people getting sucker punched for political differences. I also enjoy the comments where they say that you are scum if you defend Spencer getting punched even if it's from an anti-violence stance.
time to nuke Germany
>building walls
I recall a certain government building a wall in Germany.
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OP
I mean I'm looking forward to them fighting the actual redneck racists and working class so they get thier shit pushed in hard, but they're still wrong
Words are just fake news, huh? Obviously you would have never ignored the "for example" part just to make your point. That would be crazy talk!
The satellite state installed by soviets?
You're not actually seriously comparing the two, are you?
How do you not realize how retarded you sound?
All the good Germans died in WWII
>concerned trolling, the post
We're no where near the level of white genocide being openly preached in the public.
Check yourself before you wreck yourself you fucking leftie scum.
fuck off. the white identitarian movements are just a response to other cancerous forms of social justice. it's best viewed ironically, as a way of being a living parody of solidarity movements for non-whites which demonize whites, along with other aspects of traditional western society and morality. we shout "cuck" because you cucks keep shouting "nazi," and are all the while doing horribly violence to the word and show that you have zero self-awareness of what the nazi party was actually like and how horrifying it was to live under them.
how much is soros paying you? i'm looking for a part time job.
>I support Antifa
>I'm against walls
>no the Berlin Wall doesn't count
Yea, IM the retard
>It's easy, you can usually find them arguing about getting rid of democracy, building walls, and bombing cities in countries whose name they cannot pronounce.
So you first argued you would punch nazis because nazis advocate mass murder
Then you move the goalposts - now you can find these punch-worthy nazis very easily. How? Just look for those arguing about building walls.
In the space of one thread you have gone from wanting to punch those calling for murder, to wanting to punch those calling for building a border wall.
Except nobody is preaching white genocide.
You see symptoms everywhere, because your mind WANTS to see it everywhere.
That's how you justify this bullshit, and it's really sad.
I'm still not antifa. But keep repeating it long enough, maybe that'll make a change.
>Then you move the goalposts
Sayeth the one moving goalposts.
Irony must be a foreign concept to you!
> openly engage of guerilla tactics to deface and defame ordinary, working people.
By making rational arguments about how their views are unsustainable and illogical? That's like a 1/10 argument.
The political left wants anyone who doesn't agree with them not just dead, but erased from history, as well as every achievement western civilization has made 're-appropriated' to xyz culture of the moment.
Some are so far gone to logic and rationality that all they have left is blind hate, spewing whatever ideological demagoguery they're fed to those around them, and thinking society is rewarding them for it.
When logic fails, violence is the only way to get a message across. Again, remember, the left has a adopted a very medieval islamic-esq type of ideology.
Convert or die.
If removing these people is the only way to keep civilization advancing, what other option do we have?
IF they are actually, genuine threats to you, punching nazis is absolutely the wrong thing to do. You should be shooting them.
Oh, wait. You have no fucking clue what a threat is. Alright. Just know if you punch some fucker peacefully believes stupid shit, law and society dictate that you go to jail, and lose all your stuff in a lawsuit.
Holy fuck. Please for the love of god, regardless of your political alignment, learn your country's use of force laws.
ONE I WONT ENGAGE WITH THE RETARD
TWO I WONT ENGAGE WITH THE RETARD
>I support Richard spencer being punched
>was punched by Antifa
>oh no, I don't support Antifa
>I'm against murder based on race
>soviet pogroms didn't count
>beat people up who build walls
>Berlin wall doesn't count
>actually say that wall was built by the soviets through a puppet govt
You're okay at baiting, but you've got a ways to go. Try making a non contradicting argument next time.
> Sup Forumslacks speak harshly online
> shitlibs riot IRL
> implying talking about doing something is the same as doing it
kys
>I believe in X
>I disagree
>YOU'RE A NAZI
>I should be able to "beat some sense" into people, on the grounds of politics, that I PERCEIVE want to "beat some sense" into people, on the grounds of politics, they PERCEIVE want to "beat some sense" into people, on the grounds of politics, that they PERCEIVE....
shut the fuck up you stupid kraut, you cant punch someone because you believe that they believe something
Something has got to give.
Literally what kind of people do you keep babbling about?
Unless you mean maoist, stalinist left, I fail to see what you mean, because those "leftists" you keep talking about aren't the one trying their very hardest to rewrite history.
It's not those "leftists" who are denying any wrongdoing of the people they idolize (Holocaust? what's that?).
You either don't seem to understand it, or you deliberately twist reality to fit your believes.
I'm not sure what's worse, desu.
Let's just forget the part where lil dicky spencer proudly proclaimed "hail trump" and other shenanigans, because reality don't real, right?
Time for a reality check, buddy-o.
Try me.
Ignores reality, angry other people have vision
>It's like saying the westboro baptist church defines christianity
in the same thread as "Listen all you neo-nazi's who all engage in guerilla tactics and all attack people based on race... blah blah blah"
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>calling someone a cuck is an act of violence
I hope the mod who edited my comment to include "desu" is feeling real good about himself
>davidduke.com
>Let's just forget the part where lil dicky spencer proudly proclaimed "hail trump" and other shenanigans, because reality don't real, right?
Yes, commies REALLY assaulted him live in TV while he was talking to someone.
The funny part is, no one had heard of this guy before he got punched and by punching him while he said "the left is radicalizing and becoming violent" you proved him right.
He'll even Sup Forums said they didn't support him before he got punched
>make lefties angry on the internet
>they go out and beat innocent people
>claim "those people were nazis"
>instantly create more political opponents for life
Milo was labeled as a Nazi. Just listen for like 40 seconds starting here at 3m.
youtube.com
This whole video basically answers all your questions OP.
>those peaceful antifas dindu nuffin, you're the real baddies
That's leftists you're thinking of, the far right wants to remove the dregs of society so it can grow and progress to it's fullest potential.
>Try me.
go to bed kid, the speed of a nogunz leftist's fist is well below 35 mph with a range of 3 feet while a .45 ACP is 565 mph with a range of 100 meters
>he doesn't understand how the propaganda game is played
>peaceful protesters against trump
>Except nobody is preaching white genocide.
youtube.com
I have a lot of examples, but first show me a gov funded comedy channel that says a white future is inevitable
because nobody's punching nazis, they're just calling everyone they want to punch nazis and pretending that justifies their violence.
>I hope the mod who edited my comment to include "desu" is feeling real good about himself
the lack of self awareness is baffling in your typical redditor
>it's just in your mind
>your crazy
>disregard all the evidence that runs contrary to my opinion
I support the punching of legitimate Nazis
It'll be funny when they realize the Nazis do more than punch back.
Yep. You mad black boi?
Only authoritarians (Left and right) may be in this thread. All libertarians (left and right) will be thrown out of helicopters into Gulags.
Thread theme: youtube.com
Strasserist here.
this is by far one of the most convincing bait threads we've had in while
Nothing at all. Nazis gave up their right to be considered people when they became Nazis. If you meet a Nazi, kill them, full stop. Kill their wives too, and especially their tainted children. Their diseased ideology must be wiped from the earth.
its cuz its a german
Nazi's just want to kill some people. Commies want to kill everyone.
The same potential of Germany in 1945, bombed to smithereens?
Or, Japan, literally nuked?
Future so bright, you best start building a shelter soon, methinks.
Context is fake news too, I guess.
Obviously those people just saw Milo and decided to chimp the fuck out.
Imagine if something else happened to kick it off-- but that obviously never happened, and only fake news would claim otherwise, right my dude?
"Yes" what? I didn't exactly post a question, y'know.
Ye olde nazis also thought they could conquer russia in 2 months.
Didn't quite go as planned, or so I've been told.
Or maybe you're just crazy.
>Ye olde nazis also thought they could conquer russia in 2 months.
>Didn't quite go as planned, or so I've been told
learn your history kid, it wasnt a 1v1. Nazis had a KD of 5 to 1 and it took literally every superpower combined to defeat a Nation that had been bankrupt only 8 years prior. It wont be so easy this time with Trump in office and Russia now a Nationalist nation
>Or maybe you're just crazy.
self awareness: 0
arguments: 0
>"Yes" what? I didn't exactly post a question, y'know.
HAHA. You're mad.
>Nazis, neo-nazis, and alt-right troglodytes openly confess wanting to mass murder people, openly engage of guerilla tactics to deface and defame ordinary, working people.
Richard Spencer never promoted or exposed any of those beliefs. So I take it you think punching him was unjustified?
It's not, you just pretend to be above that and have some elevated morality. Your troglodytes, while were troglodytes with a system that actually fucking works.
Sage etc
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>autistic cancer newfag
I bet you can't even triforce faggot
>neo nazis
We're Neon Nazis.
>openly engage of guerilla tactics to deface and defame ordinary, working people.
>Are they, though? Because most trumplodytes appear to be lower-class people, with zero education, dependend on state healthcare, and no sense outside of their own gated, bloated ideas.
Who really hates the working class OP? Be honest
And you don't seem to think it's strange that people kind of thought, "gosh darn, maybe we shouldn't let germany roll over europe like that, burning villages and stuff"?
Let's not pretend like the "ideal future" of the nazis didn't somehow involve the murder of quite a bunch of people. Some might even go so far as to say it was millions ... but you didn't hear that from me! Best to keep it a secret, wouldn't want to spoil the ending here.
A system that depends onf treason to get anything working, as well as decrying journalism of any kind (unless it's the.. uh... "right kind" of journalism).
Well done. Historians of the future will surely denote the grecian geniuses of today.
Dude your newness is painful. Lurk moar.