This is *NOT* a Holocaust denial thread. Anyone who denies people dying in camps or that the camps were for anything but internment is retarded. Meeting an ideology with its polar opposite never ends successfully. The key to introducing minds to different ideas is subtlety.
Redpills are large, and extremely difficult to swallow in one go if you've never done it before. The key small doses.
How can we get the public to convince historians and analysts to reinvestigate the Holocaust and get an exact number instead of an estimate?
>"It would mean a lot to the Jewish People to use a precise figure. Don't they at least deserve that respect?" >"Don't the dead deserve to be counted as individuals, instead of being put into one generalized group like the Nazis did?" >"It's such a rounded number. Did the people who agree on it even try to find an exact number? How disrespectful can that be to all the men, women, and children who died?"
>This is *NOT* a Holocaust denial thread. Yes it is
Jaxson Davis
No it isn't. There is absolutely no denial that Jews as well as many other minorities died in camps. I want a number that isn't blatantly offensive and exploitable. "Six Gorillion" is an insult to all the corpses that were incinerated, and the thousands more that were left abandoned when the Allies closed in on Germany.
Officiating a number, for example, ~3,785,937 would ultimately prevent deniers from making a mockery out of the people who died.
Sebastian Richardson
The holocaust didn't happen but I wish it had of and I hope it happens again soon
Henry Brown
I'm arguing with a Jew guys.
Someone post Jewish Memes please
The types of shit that says "Goyim are like cattle, and deserving of death"
John Watson
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Oliver Adams
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Aaron Morales
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Dylan Rodriguez
>How can we get the public to convince historians and analysts to reinvestigate the Holocaust and get an exact number instead of an estimate? Do you really want to number to balloon up to 24million?
Don't hijack my thread. That's the USSR, shithead. The number is less than that.
Jack Cruz
There were no homocidal gas chambers. There was no systematic murder going on. They were internment camps.
Justin Adams
So what was the purpose of einsatzgruppen?
Samuel Collins
>That's the USSR, shithead. The number is less than that. It was a joke. Every time a new number comes out for the holocaust its higher than the last. Never forget about the 32 gojjirian
Noah Richardson
What if you think that it's more likely the Axis used Jews and other "inferiors" as slave labor, and many of them were starved to death as a result of insufficient supplies during wartime?
Christopher Roberts
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Levi Lopez
Because every attempt to go against it was too abrasive. Why hasn't anyone thought of using psychology instead of shitposting infographics and YouTube videos flagged by the JIDF?
Zachary Ramirez
cock-wrangling jewboy
Oliver Peterson
Saved all of these. Looks interesting. Will start watching tomorrow
HAHAHA PLEBBIT BRINGS ANOTHER LOLOHOAX BREAD TO Sup Forums
GAS YOURSELF PLEBBITARD FAGGOT
Samuel Lopez
According to Sup Forums jews had swimming pools and clubhouses n shiet while imprisonedbecause he wanted to protect them. Sounds almost JIDF tier considering all the white germans would have been dying fighting at the same time on the battlefield.
I wonder what Sup Forums sees in this guy, seems bluepilled
Jose Baker
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Landon Baker
Hitler was a sensitive man
Eli Reed
Even suggesting there were only 5M killed would make you a neo nazi. I think a targeted meme campaign to suggest there were 20M kikes killed would be effective in bringing up the debate of how many were really killed and would redpill people in the process
James Morgan
Very, too good for this world.
Bentley Sanders
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John Campbell
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Joshua Martinez
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Grayson Bailey
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Nicholas Carter
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Samuel King
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Jaxon Walker
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Oliver Evans
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Brody Hughes
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Evan Turner
poor thread getting slid off the catalog
Aiden Price
>2017 >believing in the hall of cost
Levi Campbell
The number is probably closer to 4 million. Although from an ethical standpoint it doesn't matter if it was 10 million or 1 million the tragedy is the same.
The Nazis also clearly had eyes on exterminating Poles and Hungarians and Czechs to get more Elbow Room if they had won the war.
Anthony Robinson
There actually was at least one death camp where they killed everyone and anyone, it was some Ukrainians trying to get payback for the holodomor (>implying you've ever heard of the holodomor) but Hitler put a stop to it once he found out
Brandon Perez
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Brody Bailey
Actually, the number is about 271000, who died of starvation and disease when the allies bombed german infrastructure towards the end of the war.
Ian Allen
>implying "exterminate" means kill see
Aiden Fisher
Get a fucking job. You seriously want to dig up half millenium old information about surplus shoes in germany and poland?
Ryan Allen
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Kevin Kelly
>implying you can't have a job AND want to dig up half millenium old lies
Gavin Ward
how do i know its not the other way around?
Mason King
is this implying that the soviets were the ones who were making up holocaust stuff?
it would make sense because a huge amount of the ussr's leadership was jewish
of course. 90% of the lies are soviet propaganda. thank god the USSR fell and this information is getting out >tfw (((they))) wont let this thread be at the top of the catalog use logic, how do you get a larger image out of a smaller image >first one >shadow on solider is clearly of the guy in the hat >one below that >you can spot the copy paste of the trees on the horizon
Wyatt Sanchez
Interesting, makes for a great cover-up of the soviet rape of most of east/central europe
Ryder Collins
pretty much all the bad things commies did was blamed on the nazis, and the good things they claimed to have done nazis actually did they tried to claim nazis had gas vans, but commies literally did reminder nazi = national socialist
Dominic Hill
So our argument is that there were concentration camps but firstly the 6 million death toll was not accurate and that a majority of the deaths were from typhus?
There were no "death camps" and Jews were used for cheap labor and not systematically exterminated as the accepted narrative states.
Does this also account for the non-jewish prisoners?
Are the non-jewish prisoners included in the true death count of 217,000 (I think)?
Justin Nguyen
desu just read mein kampf and don't let anyone tell you the common consensus, figure it out yourself
Hunter Perez
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Ethan Clark
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Hudson Gomez
pssst /polarchive/
Lincoln Young
pssst don't use google, ixquick is top tier
Nathaniel Anderson
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Parker Hughes
I got one. How come the gates above the camps said 'arbeit macht frei (work will set you free)', if they were extermination camps?
Jackson Collins
As many as 11 million died in the camps, extermination squads, and what have you. Of those, roughly 6 million were Jews and the rest were Slavs, Gypsies, intellectuals, gays, dissidents, and the mentally retarded.
Jack White
Just make it legal to question it in Europe. Allow an honest debate. Truth will follow.
Levi Green
The truth did follow. It was well documented precisely to prevent what's happening in this thread.
To say otherwise is to purposely be unobjective and to push an agenda.
Henry Diaz
You havent heard, the jews were lying this whole time about the non jews killed. 4million disappeared overnight
Sebastian Nelson
Look, the initial estimate was 5,000 casualties on 9/11, but after all the chaos that followed, they found that the real number was 2,977 deaths. So saying that three thousand died is accurate, but saying five thousand died is unnecessary hyperbole. It's like those fake chimneys they built on the concentration camp sites, disingenuous and not required to communicate the gravity of the history.
William Wood
>This coming from faggots who can't even genocide a bird properly
Blake Stewart
The number of dead is probably 4-5 million tbqh.
You're gonna have a lot cases of people who incorrectly assumed their relatives were dead, people who stuck on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain and unable to return home, survivors who never came forward, kids who were dropped off the goy neighbor's house and were adopted knowing none the wiser, people who died of causes unrelated to Nazi mistreatment but were counted in the total death toll, and people who's deaths were counted twice (i.e. deported to Auschwitz, transferred to Mauhausen, die in Mauhausen, and your death is counted at both camps by virtue of you not being among the survivors).
There was also the fact that until the 1980s and Glasnost, it was assumed that the Jewish population of the Soviet Union was almost totally annihilated. This stems from the fact the Germans early on overran the Jewish Pale of Settlement, a region of the Russian Empire that specifically reserved for Jews and where the majority of Russian Jews resided. But following the collapse of the Russian Empire and the rise of Communism, Stalin, fearing that an ethnic enclave could become a hotbed for secessionist sentiment, dispersed much of the Jewish population throughout the Soviet Union. As a result, half of the Soviet Jewish population was out of the Germans' reach and instead of being effectively destroyed as Jews in Poland were, the Soviet Union only lost 1/3rd of its Jews.
Caleb Brown
>How can we get the public to convince historians and analysts to reinvestigate the Holocaust and get an exact number instead of an estimate?
At this point it's a waste of time. Estimating it as anything lower than 6 million is a career ender, and any further discussion on it always brings out the denier nuts.
Xavier Myers
To inspire a false hope of survival in the prisoners.
Also, Auschwitz was the only Extermination Camp with an "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign because it doubled as a labour camp. Other sites such as Treblinka didn't bother with such pleasantries.
Jacob Bennett
The official number is now lower than 6 million. they dropped the Auschwitz number by a couple mil (the plaque has actually been updated a few times), but keep ((forgetting)) to update the total number