/odg/ - Oroville Dam General - shoddy repair work edition

> What happened so far
- Main spillway got damaged - because of no maintaining - because Cali thought that they will never have that much water again - because of Muh Climate Change. And they needed the money for illegals.
- They closed the main spillway to inspect the damage
- Because of the closed main spillway, water went over the emergency spillway
- Emergency spillway was in even worse condition and it got BTFO pretty bad
- They opened the main spillway again, so that water doesn't go over the emergency spillway any longer
- Main spillway gets slowly BTFO and half of it is gone. But it is stable at the moment.
- They try to "repair" the emergency spillway because if rain hits hard, water will go over it again (even if they keep the main spillway open) and would rek the dam

> Be careful! There is plenty of old footage marked als livestream!

> Hourly Waterlevel
cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?ORO
> Bubbles near emergency spillway!
youtu.be/EqEU2X6yBPk?t=31s
> Pictures
pixel-ca-dwr.photoshelter.com/galleries/C0000OxvlgXg3yfg/G00003YCcmDTx48Y/Oroville-Spillway-Damage
> Webcam from the wrong side
parks.ca.gov/?page_id=29411
> NoFly-Zone
tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_7_3920.html
> RainRadar
accuweather.com/en/us/oroville-ca/95965/weather-radar/331994
> Reservoir Condition
cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/resapp/getResGraphsMain.action
> Wind Map
windytv.com/?39.535,-121.469,12,anCziIF
> Latest Seismograph
earthquake.usgs.gov/monitoring/helicorders/nca/112/latest/
> Recent footage
youtube.com/watch?v=wD7WzYVW4iU
>Cause of the main spillway damage was shoddy 2013 repair work
sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/02/10/maintenance-records-show-oroville-dam-spillway-previously-patched/

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youtube.com/watch?v=WhQ1CyGjG48
youtu.be/vCZrBEKzeNE?t=5m42s
youtube.com/watch?v=hmKLxoAPU1c
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Erosion chan

LA floods tomorrow

>Main spillway got damaged - because of no maintaining - because Cali thought that they will never have that much water again - because of Muh Climate Change. And they needed the money for illegals.

I wish this wasn't the fucking truth

Nice autism if you drew that

Happening cancelled?, they've done a lot of repair work.

A british flag said his sister and his sister's artist friend drew it together.

As far as I know people were told they can move back in the evacuated zones.
So for now it doesn't seem like much is going to happen.

looks like it's fixed desu

The dam will fuck up entire commiefornia.

ktla.com/2017/02/16/10-inches-of-rain-headed-for-oroville-dam-area-revised-storm-forecast-warns/
Until Sunday/Monday

Info for people wanting to know about the history and construction of the dam.

youtube.com/watch?v=WhQ1CyGjG48

Ronald Reagan was governor when it was competed and gave a speech at the dedication. At the time, the state was heavily Republican and was going through a boom in infrastructure growth. Reagan over saw a lot of this during his term in office.

Eventually the democrats took over the state and started running things into the ground. All of our water infrastructure and other infrastructure was built in the early 1970s or much earlier. Some of our state levees are over 100 years old. Dirt mounds piled up by local farmers. Nothing has been done to repair or replace any of this infrastructure.

and a motherfucker storm called "lucifer" is incoming. worst in 20 years

livestream and popcorn for us.

They seem to be installing a concrete shield up to the emergency spillway (on top of dirt). No work has been done on the main spillway though, and it's probably eroding underneath.

Also they are preparing the powerplant to be used again, which adds another 15,000 CFS.

The main storms come monday.

is that really what they are calling the storm in LA?

>Our imouto who art in hills
>hallowed be thy name
>thy slippy slide come.
>thy crumblings be done
>on slipways as it is in mudslides
>give us this day our daily erosion
>and forgive the "happening cancelled" shills
>as we forgive those who cry "not in muh red county"
>and lead us not into dry spells
>but deliver us from outflow

>tfw your cities levees were made by the chinese while they were still living there so they should last another two thousand years or so

Tweet all members of Trump team to pull all fed funds from cali since their so big on being a sanctuary state.

They will bend the knee!

what engineering measures that can even be taken pale in comparison to the sheer volume of flow that was taking place. water is a tricky bitch and will erode your shit real fucking fast one way or the other. no amount of earthmoving, rock-dropping, or cement-smearing of the hillside will prevent further serious damage if things get bad again. nevermind the fact that the primary spillway is still COMPLETELY COMPROMISED and will itself prove a liability in continued adverse conditions.

>shallowed be thy bane

I'm guessing they are trying to build a decent concrete emergency spillway before the weather gets too bad and will turnoff the main spillway completely so they can replace it

They been had told people the evacuation is off, you're making these threads for nothing. There was a total of 3 minutes combined of rain over the course of this entire day.

Ahtmen

the main spillway will not have a window for servicing for the next FEW MONTHS given that california is in fucking monsoon mode for the time being

this situation is hilariously out of control

Updated levels

on top of this, sole reliance on the emergency routing will obliterate the goddamn wall next to the spillway

damned if you do damned if you don't

FUCK wrong file

Don't forget the snow melt and the reservoir being already above average levels.

pretty much, it takes months to build a proper emergency spillway and nobody has any idea of what damage was done until the dam can be drained completely which wont be for months in itself

like, I agree but I am just thinking thats probably their plan because its all they can do so they can say
>well at least we tried
when things go completely to shit

There's pretty much no fixing the spillway.

They're going to have to build a new one at a different location so they can keep the existing spillway functional in the meantime.

It will be a massive undertaking, and there's no way around it.

Interesting idea.. though risky. That must be their backup plan if the main spillway fails catastrophically.

I agree with the other guy though, they're probably gonna try to ride out the season on the main spillway until the rainy season ends in May.

>putting a bandaid on a sucking chest wound.

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Is she safe?

youtu.be/vCZrBEKzeNE?t=5m42s
>in the opinion of the experts you are speaking to, will the dam survive the storms
>no
Lets get together and pray.

>nobody has any idea of what damage was done until the dam can be drained completely which wont be for months in itself

Nobody here knows a damn thing about dams.No one in this state knows how to fix it. It's taken 20 years for the state to fix a broken bridge with another broken section for a bridge that originally took two years to build in the 1930s. All of our state workers or whoever gets contracted to work on this stuff is corrupt.

correction: fulling a sucking chest wound with mud and rock :^)

>a lot of repair work

no amount of nigger rigging in such a short amount of time can stop the power of water.

They won't drain it to check, its one of the most vital parts of our water infrastructure.

The water rises

theyre just spraying concrete everywhere. literary nigger tier. sad too, it was a cool dam

The happening isn't over until the giant sinkhole on the main spillway is fixed. To give you some perspective, this has been a known problem for the last 12 years. Only now it's a big problem.

Correction: BAGS of rocks!

That's totally unrelated to the Dam

Oh shit. Ojai is fucked. It's probably never gotten that much rain in 24 hours.

>building a spillway into a dam with instability 'issues' right now to say the least on a lake that is fucking roiling with unprecedented inflow and management needs DURING the wet season as all of this is going on

i would want to shake the hand of each man and woman to have partaken in such a thing and succeeded because

1) ayayayayyaya lol that's quite a lot of commitment
2) california has money for this where
3) if this was being considered a serious and valid solution it would already be underway

unless they like convert the emerg. into a new one but good luck with that as your work will be washed away the moment shit goes south

this is a goddamn atrocity of engineering i would not be feeling at all safe nearby

goddamn entertainment inbound

>nigger rigging

that's it, right there

it's not fucking enough

one does not CONTAIN poseidon, even in fresh-water form


DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THE DEBRIS PRESENT IN THE LAKE THAT WILL CATALYZE EROSION AND DO FUCK KNOWS WHAT ELSE WHEN THEY BEGIN TO SPILL

>4-7" of rain
State of emergency when?

well thats just asking for failure
it needs to be drained, even if they build a temporary dam downstream and rebuild/upgrade the oroville dam

Eh, but why? We can just throw more bags of rocks at the problem, and they're pretty cheap in bulk.

>tfw the 100-200 million number cited for repairs is just the cost of buying every bag of rocks in the continental united states
I wouldn't even be upset

There's plenty of ways to gather information without drainage. Ground penetrating radar just as an example

>ground penetrating radar
>when they wouldn't spring for a simple concrete patch job for the main spillway

I'm guessing it's mostly in the mountains. Wet air from the south is supposed to meet up with cold air from the north.

youtube.com/watch?v=hmKLxoAPU1c

related

i'm not a hydroelectric engineer or by any means an expert on dam design but what's going on reeks of critical failure and imminent collapse with the sheer volume of water inbound to the state. its erosive force is one of the most destructive things on the face of the earth and should not be underestimated. as deeply entrenched as the primary vertical wall is, precautions installed for excess volumes have proven either negligent or ineffective with all of this. i don't know how things would be faring right now if the primary spillway was properly serviced but there is constant flow of water into cavities below the earth right now in the zone surrounding the dam so the integrity of the earth has now been compromised even if they're closely regulating outflow in order to minimize erosion

protip you can only reduce, not eliminate it

Can't damn the dam

Can't kill the spill

Can't contain the rain!

Can't lower the Levy

Be weary of the weir

Can't fill the hill

Don't fear the weir

From Levy to landslide

From dam to BAM

Can't stop gushing, the water is rushing

Having this big of a fuck up at least means they will spend some money to look good towards the public

Saved

seeing a lot of purple and pink in the watershed, that's what over 10 inches.

Can't handle the drainage with this kind of rainage

Can't escape the watery fate

Posting my watery grave pics

yeah I have a feeling that if they will get through the wet season, they will probably rebuild the main spillway and then go back to forgetting about it until one day they wont get so lucky

underrated kek and kawaii

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why are asian women so ugly?

Checked and tilt-shifted

People with disproportional bodies kind of freak me out.

take that back

If it causes a mass flood you reckon the country would get right onto helping people like after Katrina.
> worse than 3rd world nation.

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pretty sure my tweets are being shadow banned

That would involve surveying and doing an inspection of the structural integrity of the hillside.

T. Construction Nigger here, From my take on it all that concrete work they're adding at the bottom is utter shit, it's panic-concrete at this point as any 'real' amount of water over it is just going to start ripping it off at every ripple and angle in it just like it did to the hillside.

That temporary road they've made of stacked rocks is likely going to be one of the first things to go if the water starts cresting over the emergency spillway again too, and tear apart anything that they've put downriver of it.

putting this shell of concrete over everything is just gonna give the water that much more shit to use to tear apart the hillside, and i guarantee you it hasn't even begun to fucking set properly, there's no way on god's earth they can get that much quick-drying concrete in this short of an amount of time, and the videos all show this, the concrete for the most part is still wet in many places, because they're using as much regular shit as they can get their hands on, it's probably basic nigger-grade contractor concrete which is supposed to set for about 2 weeks before putting any actual strain on it.

And none of this is even taking into account the fact that we've been seeing bubbles up-welling from behind the emergency spillway and at least 2 vibrations near the thing large enough to register on the earthquake detectors, they should've never lifted the evacuation order on this shit, but when has a Californian ever made a good decision?

>12-18 inches in lake Tahoe

holy shit what

Pretty decent analogy if I'm honest famalamadingdong

The central valley is so orderly.

Pumping station for the LA water supply in the bottom right.

So have I missed anything in the last couple of hours?

This gives me hope for a true disaster. I agree and think they are in full panic mode.

Cali here,
We dont care about oroville. Anything with a ville doesnt matter. Only San or Los and maybe Oakland.

sorry wrong thread

Purple and pink is snow your retard.

Nah. We're all just shooting the shit mostly. No rain at the moment. Just checking the lake levels every hour.

>well at least we tried

Except the whole reason this is a problem, was because the main spillway had severe damage over a decade ago because of a sinkhole. This has been a problem for years. They haven't actually tried, it's been ignored and now that it's a major problem they don't know what to do.

What do you think of the cracks here? This seems to be a picture of the main spillway above the damage.

Will post another pic of other damage where the hole started.

They have been working 24/7 since they stopped the emergency spillway. They were even pouring concrete and dropping rocks last night in the storm.

>a huge watershed doesn't matter
Hmm, interesting. Tell me more.

She'll be right cunt

>in America, even the dams leak

Other pic, not sure if they are inspecting or fixing.

They did every wrong yet they kept going. Bravo commies Bravo

Central Valley is the lifeblood of a surprising amount of the world's food. No expense, no fucking around, every piece of square footage counts in that place.

Puts things in perspective about the rest of the state.

nice and /comfy/ I see. Here everybody, have /comfy/ meme.

What's everyone watching/listening to this fine evening?

>Except the whole reason this is a problem, was because the main spillway had severe damage over a decade ago because of a sinkhole. This has been a problem for years. They haven't actually tried, it's been ignored and now that it's a major problem they don't know what to do.
well we know that, but they want to be able to say "we tried, gosh"

>the sheer force of turbulence being generated by water rushing over all of that uneven shit

this is your state on pseudo-socialism

there will be fucking blood at this rate

I'm watching Norm Macdonald Live. Super /comfy/.

Am i seeing it right, that Fether Vallty SUDDDENLY moved to new draught phase (instead of rains expected, causing causing flood and happening ), guys?

Has Governor Brown investigated the possibility that the spillway was, in fact, hacked by Russia?

Anyone want to give a sitrep?

Been away for a few hours. Last I heard the state has been trying to pretend "no problems here" while going full panic mode and pouring concrete like retards.

Flying over it is pretty neat. It's absolutely perfect farmland, 3-4 seasons of any crop.

Only bad thing is the giant cow slaughterhouse on I5.

Is there any live/current footage of the dam?

spot fucking on buddy

Most of the damage we've seen in the main spillway so far has been after the downward bend, and it isn't due to lack of maintenance, it's because the thing was built wrong in the first place, the angle downward is too tight, instead of one uniform flow downward it allows the water to ramp and impact lower when it's released at a fast enough rate, they could have all the funding in the world and it wouldn't have stopped a hole from opening up right there, this is entirely on engineering.

As for the cracks in your picture, i don't know where those are in relation to the hole right now, but if they're further up closer to the actual spillway then that is a serious problem, every one of those cracks has potentially compromised the entire hillside by allowing small amounts of water to create cavities under the spillway over time, if that's the case then as another user up above said, they'll have to rip out the entire spillway and drain the lake down a significant amount unless they want it to rip a hole in the future, it wouldn't be a matter of if but when.

Even then though, they 'still' have to rip out the entire spillway, because fucking engineering built the downward curve where the hole is at too steep an angle, the entire thing should've been either one straight shot down, or a much more gradual downturn at the halfway point which would've required the initial slope to be cut deeper into the hillside, obviously costing more in production.