Why is it that so many women are so vocal against the MGTOW movement, when it literally isnt even about them?

Why is it that so many women are so vocal against the MGTOW movement, when it literally isnt even about them?

Could it be that they are, dare I say it, scared?

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>Why is it that so many women are so vocal
>that pic

Who is vocal about it? Literally no women even know about this movement.

>women are vocal against mgtow
>literally never heard a woman talk about it

I've never even met a woman who what MGTOW was before.

I thought that MGTOW was a weapons platform until recently, so i'm almost positive that no women know about it.

MGTOW is just man hating feminist seperatism, but for men.
>A man needs a women like a fish needs a bicikle - Andrew Dworkin

No, they're making fun of them.

That's like when they use "virgin" as insult. It's not that they are afraid of virgins, they're just mocking them

>Why is it that so many women are so vocal against the MGTOW movement
When they make themselves unsavory, they see that no man wants them specifically....They then assume that MGTOW is a real thing. It is purely egotism, and a group of women all identify the same issue....but fail to see the root cause.

It is a mass hallucination. Men would rather not breed with damaged goods (mentally and physically damaged).

It is no different than Sara Silverman seeing swasticas everywhere. They see shit that is not real, and believe their own lies.

No one wants to take responsibility for themselves, and they choose to blame others for their own life.

Never met a woman that knows about MGTOW

Roasties are so into VOICE they just can't take a dash of EXIT.

This.

Normal women are not at all afraid of MGTOW (assuming they even know what it is). Women who fuck around until way too late in their lives and then can't find anyone to have a stable relationship with someone are going to start blaming others/other things.

Also why do MGTOW threads seem to pop up every thirty minutes and why do they always have the same content? If you're all about self-improvement and just having sex with women but not hitching yourself to them can you actually just fucking make a thread about marriage instead?

no sane women cares about MGTOW aside from thinking its a movement full of weridos. The only ones who give a damn are attention seeking begtubers and roastie sluts.

Why are you pretending that more than a handful of women even know what MGTOW is?

>qt grills with glasses
hnnnggg

SAUCE

>scared that they won't have this

Nobody ever talks about it outside of Sup Forums

I dunno. Why do so many MGTOW guys pretend it's anything than a club for shitposting about how much they hate women because they're autistic beta males?

OP, you know there's a life outside of Sup Forums, right?

Believe it or not, there are plenty of women who don't want to get married, don't want kids and just enjoy getting frequent stranger dick.

The same reason i am vocal against feminism or any other movement that destroys human nature, family, love and tradition.

first time I heard of it , this popped in to my head XD

and they are all losers

>they are scared
yep , inded.

no worries , soon artificial wombs will wipe them out

mgtow is retarded

Of course they are frightened.

A woman's prime imperative is to take as many resources as she can from other men.

When men withdraw from the market, she has less resources.

Yeah a bunch of fat blue haired dickhead outwardly lesbian feminists are petrified of a bunch of fat fedora wearing neckbeard inwardly gay cocksuckers.

>there are plenty of women who don't want to get married, don't want kids and just enjoy getting frequent stranger dick
and then they turn 30 and become raging cunts who are bitter about their rapidly decaying ovaries

It is about them though. It takes away their privilege of being able to choose, which means they have to please us and they will be held up to some sort of standard. It basically means they're not important just cause and have to merit some sort of attention.

>Believe it or not, there are plenty of women who don't want to get married, don't want kids and just enjoy getting frequent stranger dick.

Yes, they're called twenty-five year olds.

Why do you think all these articles have been coming out, asking "where have all the good men gone?" or whining about how men are "cowards" for not wanting to marry? They're coming from hysterical feminist bloggers who can hear their biological clocks ticking, and are starting to realize that maybe riding the dick carousel until age 35 was a bad idea.

>Why is it that so many women are so vocal against the MGTOW movement,

Literally no woman I've ever met in my life has talked about it, LOL if you think women care about a bunch of shut in autists who couldn't get women in the first place becoming "voluntary" celibates.

If the movement was CGTOW (chads going their own way) then you would see women give a fuck but people like you aren't even on their radars to begin with unless they are 38 and looking for a beta provider.

MGTOW is the one awoovement that is hated or laughed at by both Liberal and Conservative women.

I can't say I blame them. MGTOW come off like a bunch of incels who have never gotten a woman to become subservient enough to actually cook them dinner.

MGTOW place too much power on the women as if that's what they actually want. You need to actually give a reason for the bitch to serve you and you do that by playing a fatherly role. MGTOWs mistake that for provider, but you don't need to provide women with anything but your dik.

The only thing MGTOWs get right is not putting pussy on the pedestal and concentrating on their own self-improvement. That should've already been a default position though.

That's actually hilarious.

It is remarkable how much energy and passion young men put into accomplishing nothing.

Surely, such effects of the MGTOW movement would be better used, even if ultimately futile, in campaigning against the current state of marriage and divorce.

>It is remarkable how much energy and passion young men put into accomplishing nothing.

/thread

Literally no one gives a shit about MGTOW, unless they are MGTOW.

Women become terribly incensed at the idea that a man, any man, suddenly isn't there available to their backup plan/beta orbiter, even if she has no interest in that man and absolutely no intention whatsoever of ever fucking them

mfw y+ master race for life

Female separatist movements have been around for longer and have never been taken seriously, but I'm sure if they were people here would be vocal about it too. Also, it's more provocative when someone who is actually needed separates from society. Nobody cared when freed black slaves left for Liberia, but when some religious separatists left the UK it created the biggest wealth-creating, militaristic superpower human history has ever seen.

tits or gtfo

Yes
They are scared we wont share any of our profits with them
I would prefer to give money to a dog than to a female

Why are there so many incelbetafags?

What is MGTOW

i dont fit in any as im just ugly, right now i cant do anything, im just ugly and people are hostile and despise me with no reason, they just see an horrible looking guy, the only thing i can do is a nosejob then i will be an A+

>enjoy starnger dick
Dropped

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>Why is it that so many women are so vocal against the MGTOW movement, when it literally isnt even about them?

>What is MGTOW
rage quit.

Maybe because you're a fucking loser faggot who is whining over the fact that you can't get laid/got laid once and never again/had one relationship that was a bad experience?

Women need men more than they like to lead on. Stop acting like a little faggot and better yourself so the thought of losing you actually makes them treat you with respect.

...

Or maybe I can just keep not giving a shit.

Yeah, I think I'll do that.

If they want me I'm here, if they don't it's their loss.
I'm certainly not gonna bend over backwards for a girl.

Thats a good lookin girl.
(Please be a girl and not a man)

γ isn't a y you fucking retard

Kek

women don't know about the name mgtow but they can feel something isn't alright. something seems off, marriage isn't as easy a scam it was before, although still easy enough if i may add

The eternal roastie fears a few things
>men realizing they are all smoke and mirrors
>men "oppressing" them again by removing degeneracy/slutting and bringing back marriage culture
>sexbots and artificial wombs
>MGTOW virgins/incels convincing Chads to stop fucking them

Ok


I'll be honest here. It sounds like a gay organization

They know that it is ultimately a criticism of them and so they don't like it

>men "oppressing" them again by removing degeneracy/slutting

You are irrelevant. They'll only start caring when chad decides he wants to go MGTOW. They dont care if some skinnyfat autist they wouldn't have fucked anyway swears off of sex.If you want your movement to make a real impact you need to convince desirable men to make the jump.

No mgtow is just a lame excuse for men that can't get any

Fork of life?

some of them know it and like it
but of course not every men can fuck them, just the men she find attractive can fuck her like a beast

Once robot waifus hit the market, women are finished. Its coming and they know it.

Women are vocal about everything. MGTOW are ugly men trying to cope with the fact that they are not attractive to women. Just leave them alone, you don't have to have an extreme political opinion about every little thing.

Because you fucking retards are going to make us white people go extinct because a bunch of ugly bitches were mean to you.

women's opinions on social hierarchies should never ever be taken seriously
go back to tumblr

>women are all hypergamous sluts who all go for chad! only 20% of the men get 80% of the women!
>lol I bet they are scared me and my internet friends refuse to date

so this... is the power... of male logic

How would you feel if I told you that men are completely useless and we're only keeping you alive because we need your spunk to procreate?

Now, invert that and say something like - women are useless except for giving birth and you have MGTOW.

>MGTOW is going to make white people instinct

Delusion.

It's a coping mechanism for those that wouldn't have bred anyway.

Same fucking reason they're scared of pornography, male sex toys, sex dolls, sissies, transgender mtf, etc.

I've never heard one say "MGTOW", but I'm assuming OP is talking about all the "where have all the good men gone?" and spinsters bullshit we see now.

The answer is they were bred out because women in general, in aggregate, didn't want them. At the same time, over the decades many men who did their traditional duty have been destroyed for it, not rewarded and respected.

Men, like all animals, do the cost-benefit analysis and opt out in increasing numbers.

why? if somebody is a good woman, she can't be replaced by those things. sluts may fear though

So being fatherly means giving them the dick. What kind of fucked up incest pedophile family do you have?

True, but good women in western society are relatively hard to find. And I'm not saying that all of those things are not degenerate, it's just that most women want to maintain leverage over their man with access to their pussy

>Feminism: about 150 years old, pretty centrally organized, billions of dollars in private and public funding for Feminist agendas, Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn get an audience with the U.N, protests are supported and covered positively by media

>MGTOW (and MRA's): maybe 5-10 years old at most, not centrally organized, just some guys on forums and Youtube channels, no funding, rarely covered by media but when it is it's negative, barely even heard of outside of Sup Forums and other pockets of the internet
>only heard of in the "mainstream" when the blonde gay Jew mentioned in his articles a few years ago

"Feminism is a whole hyper industrial, quasi-Statist structure. I mean, Feminists are all over the place. In universities, everywhere you look, in the arts in particular, there are Feminists, and pretty radical Feminists too. Now, you try and get one men's group meeting in a University, what happens? It's not allowed."

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No comparison, son.

MGTOW is actually quite good at calling out certain bullshit that women try to pull. The rest of it is pretty useless.

Because everyone knows no washed up slut ever suddenly took a liking to the beta virgin when she realized 33 is old as fuck and 34 is even older and so might feel threatened by a movement which told those beta-virgins to practice avoiding women in their 20s now so they'll be emotionally scarred enough to reject the bitch when she comes knocking in their 30s.

tits or gtfo, dumb cunt.

>It's not a men's version of feminism because feminism is more popular
rly opened my neural pathways

This. Divide and conquer.

>Don't reproduce goy, let Jamal do that for you with the slutty evil women!

>independent, successful women
Empowering role model

>independent, successful men
CHECK YOUR FUCKING PRIVILEGE

>when it literally isnt even about them

This is why they're upset about it, everything needs to be about them or they get uppity.

that's a cute trap

I know that but it highly contributes to disappearance of the white race since most of MGTOW males are white. I am aware that women racemixing with niggers are one of the main factors , but this 'gender-war' affected white race mostly which makes me think is it really white genocide or suicide?

Mens rights activism is the male equivalent of feminism, or at least has the strong potential to become such a thing.

While they currently focus on legal equality between the sexes, I'm sure they'd move straight on to trying to mandate some kind of social quality if they ever achieved it.

>campaigning against the current state of marriage and divorce.

Whenever I've seen men do this, mockery is the response.

People don't care about men. Men barely care
a little, and women don't care at all. It's women who stomped their feet and bitched and got their way to make this the current situation, it's women who could use their same power as a voting bloc and as social police to reverse it.

They don't. They usually support women who destroy their families and offload blame onto the men, or at best they remain in silent complicity.

But a pudgy Cheeto looking billionaire says "grab them by the pussy"? Suddenly they find their passion.

Women don't care. Why should men?

>kill the white race conspiracy
why not just use a surrogate

Straight women know it's laughable because they know straight men will always be there to raise their black child. Gay men have always been "going their own way" so there's no real loss for them there although most straight women I know resent the fact that gay men don't care about them like the care about other men.

This. They complain about a shortage of desirable men. They keep on chasing the men other women want. They got a long list of demands. They still got betas lined up for them if they want them. They don't care about MGTOW. They do care about Chads not committing to them, but most Chads will commit to someone eventually.

MGTOW wouldn't be so cringe-worthy if they weren't so god damned bitter and hateful towards women. That's why people make fun of them. Otherwise it would be fine.

Understandable misunderstanding. They fail to see legitimate arguments from the movement because some members of it actively work to villify them. Insulting someone is the easiest way to turn off their brain when it comes to anything you might have to say, its usually THE thing you don't do when trying to convince someone of something.

Its a vicious cycle.

This, I don't think women are even aware of this. MGTOW is basically a bunch of autists that never talk to girls or always get "friend zoned" pretending to quit when they are being fired. It just helps losers feel better by making them think they own their unpopularity. You can't swear off women when you haven't talked to one in years.

To any lurking MGTOWs

Girls are worth more in relationships, that is, demand for them never really goes down, while there isn't a ton of demand on guys. Guys need to be proactive or you won't have offspring. Women just need to accept any offer they get. Taking yourself out of the game is stupid, achieves nothing, and has managed to make pussy loser guys look more passive aggressive than women ever were.

I honestly don't respect any MGTOWs. Our race is dying, I don't give a fuck if you like them, but you need to have kids with white women, not masturbate to waifus. Honestly, if whites go extinct, it's shit like this that makes us deserve it.

Know why blacks have lots of kids? Because they just want to satisfy their dick. It's stupid, but it means they do not give a fuck who a girl was with before as long as they get some. They do not care about her opinions, or her take on politics, they do not give a fuck what she's into or what music she likes, they do not go shoe shopping with her, they don't give a fuck if they get married. They just get some, they go after and ask girls out all the time. I haven't had a black coworker married or not, that did not hit on every hot piece of ass to come in the door. They thought I was crazy for being loyal to a "bitch". Like it or not, that is a strong survival trait. Kick blacks out of your country, or try a little harder to breed. By being prissy little picky princesses, you won't reproduce. Keep it up if you want but then our extinction is your own fault and no one else's and you better realize and own that.

Except the issues that MRA's draw attention to are demonstrably, statistically valid unlike Feminism. Granted MRA is a waste of time and the energy would be better spent on personal development, but that doesn't mean I can deny the validity of their arguments.

>Mens rights activism is the male equivalent of feminism,
The only thing MRA and feminism has in common is the stated goal of equality and having to do with gender politics. Men's rights activism is just common sense rejection of feminism and looking at issues that affect men.

Also you haven't argued how MGTOW isn't equavalent to separatist feminism.
>Both advocate abdicating duties to society as oppresive
>Both hate the other gender
>Both offer separation as the solution.

They need more hate, you fool. If they treated it as a war and acted accordingly, they'd actually get somewhere.

There are a lot of men, even Chad-types, who are not happy with the current situation. Sex can only motivate the lowest order of men. Fraternal struggle is a far more powerful motivating force. If the MGTOW wanted to get somewhere, they would treat this as a war, and treat men who do not choose celibacy the same as they should treat all women: enemies with no chance of reconciliation.

Then they might get something done, and actually convert people. Unfortunately, everyone has been raised to be a pussy these days, but what'r'ya'gonna'do?

I'm saying MGTOW is men's feminism, NOT MRA

you should fit a bell curve to that shit

A Jewish psyop

If we keep going in this direction still knowing the consequences, I'll consider it suicide. It's soft genocide until then.

See it's people like this cuck. He tries to create some kind of alliance, based upon racial lines. He should be rejected out of hand. Not only is he only pretending to care about his sex, but he is only pretending to care about his race. Watch how he praises the nigger for the absolute worst of his behavior, and then advocates more of it.

He has been taken in by the vaginal Jew. This man has no use to anyone anymore. His entire existence is boiled down to "muh dick". His only purpose in life is to serve the sexual needs of women. Little bitches like this need to be slapped so hard they run back into the Left where they belong. I know Trump brought a lot of these younger, cuck-boy types to the Right, but honestly, they are a drag. We'd do better without them.

I've never heard any woman talk about this. Why would women care that undesirable men are "going their own way"? In fact, this shit makes you 10x more unattractive.

Holy shit dude. You guys generalize so much.
It's true though, the genders have become divided. They are more and more like separate interest groups. They vote differently. This is very bad.
But you'd want men to get mad at anyone getting married because he's giving in to the enemy? That's pretty far gone desu.