Are these guys really that bad? I heard they're moderate and they care a lot about education...

Are these guys really that bad? I heard they're moderate and they care a lot about education, I know they run charter schools here.

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Watch this: youtube.com/watch?v=3cu4R9ywyaM

tl;dw: very powerful, pro western-relations, much "softer" than more hardline Islamist muslims. Their approach to the role of religion in society is bottom-up rather than top-down, in that they are not enthusiastic about making an "Islamic state", and enforce Sharia.

closet jihadi wing of soros

isnt this the guy and erdogan trying to kill eachother?

I'm speaking as an atheist

>Are these guys really that bad
yes, that bastard is planing to overthrow the secular republic for at least 40 years. and we secularist always warned the government against this guy.

>I heard they're moderate
they look like that at first.

>they care a lot about education
it is both a tool and façade. they use brilliant minded kids to get into high ranks of government, if they fail, they cheat in exams to get to a certain goal.

>I know they run charter schools here.

and you can not find anything wrong with their education with normal eye. indoctrination starts at night, during special conversations called "sohbet".

there is no moderate islam, these kind of bastards are always dangerous.

kek I went to one of those links, and it was just a turk linking a paper by another turk just making claims about them without any evidence

reminder that to get reliable information, trust academics who are specialists in the field (who happen to be white), not fellow roaches who could have an agenda against other roaches

>w-wikileaks are fake news
>l-listen to "objective" academics

you need to change your style guys. also your vid at made it so obvious that you belong to your imam.

wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/66/66478_gulen-i-.html/
>Indictment against Fethullah Gülen by the General Prosecutor Nuh Mete Yüksel
this is literally just erdogan's prosecution statement lmao

>Nuh Mete Yüksel
this guy is a secular, pro-republican guy. he would be neck to neck with erdoshit if he was still on duty.

you don't know shit.

>yüksel

he suffered both erdo and gülen + that article has been shared by stratfor members as reliable source, and it's been shared at 2012- the date when AKP and your imam were BFFs.

try harder, abi.

My chicano college roommate went to one of their schools in texas, he said it's basically perfect if you're poor + a science autist at a young age.

The idea of them turning their top top students into secret muslim gulenist intelligence agents is too funny for me to not want to believe. I mean shit erdogan got lindsay lohan

>The idea of them turning their top top students into secret muslim gulenist

they do that to the people who was borned to muslim families. if you don't have any history before with islam, they don't bother.

This is the problem the west couldn't see. Turkey is full of these poor and muslim kids. they are the target, not other countries' kids. the schools in the west are just their façade.

This

>since he's secular, he doesn't have an agenda against gulen
nice logic ismet, also
>the few existing high IQ turks adhere to gulen ideology
>rest of your barbarian country chimps out at gulen
rmyt

>everyone that's against my imam got agenda
>being this brainwashed

save yourself from your imam. good luck.

>he doesn't have an agenda against gulen
he had an agenda against all islamist shits.

>the few existing high IQ turks adhere to gulen ideology

kek. you really think that ha?
>what is white turks

>rest of your barbarian country chimps out at gulen

those are ak-its.

did you eat your maklube today, şakirt?

I thought Gulen was just as bad as Erdogan, the main difference being that one got BTFO and the other didn't. Wasn't he part of the same islamic circle as Erdogan before he/they formed the AKP?

not the same circle. erdoğan is from "milli görüş"(national view), they are pro-sharia, anti democracy.

at the 80s and 90s, they didn't get along. with AKP, they allied in 2002, and now fucking each other.

>Conquered Islamified Greeks now proud worshippers of said sand death cult

Sad!

true. some of us resist though.

I don't know, but I can tell you that his mansion is 40 minutes away from me right now. I used to do snow plowing for a real estate bank that owns houses all around his pad

appearantly your neighbors dont like them

youtube.com/watch?v=h6AufAeqDzI

Went to a very good gulen movement middle school. The female teachers wore head scarves religion was not brought up once very good school now the teachers cant go back to visit their families because Erdogan would detain or arrest them. Gulen is basically muslims and other religions can live together without anyone exploding

was there a turkish class?

so what makes gulen and erdogan different (apart from political success)? I thought both were antidemocracy /prosharia before finding themselves in leadership roles.

Yes we could choose spanish or türkcye I chose Turkish because it was an exotic laungage I don't remember much of it besides merhaba and numbers tho lol I also went on a school sponsored trip to Turkey crappy internet but an ancient beautiful place I want to go back when things get better there

TLDR Gulen=good Erdogan=bad

their methods are different, gülen is a sneaky bastard, uses infiltration to reach his goal. and during the process puts a façade.

erdoğan is an outright anti democrat/pro sharia. he showed this immensely when he was a mayor in 90s. he had a schism with his mentor, erbakan, early 2000s and created AKP.

gülen always tries to play the good boy, and as we can see with the attitude of the west, it works.

Glad you like the country.

I love how when I was just shocked and confused by the whole coup thing there was a group of random normal Americans who went through the schools who were all "Oh yeah, Gulen, that's our guys!"

Gulen is a frail old guy living in some random complex in pennsylvania Ergodan blaming him for the coup is him hijacking the coup attempt as a reichstag fire event to consildiate power which he did

>Gulen is a frail old guy
yeah, just like palpatine.

All enemies of Goatfuckerman are my buddies.

Pretty sure Gulen cant shoot electricity out of hos fingers though

oh but he does. he curses Erdoğan here without giving a name.

youtube.com/watch?v=bPNS4efIyTM

Is gulden funded by the us gov't in some capacity?

it seems so. but the evidence is not that solid I think.

Tbh even if everything you say about Gulen is true sounds a hell of a lot better then Erdogan

they are the same shit but from different assholes. both wants to rule turkey just as Khomeini's iran. fuck them both.

and I'm not expecting you to understand that. You don't know where we have been for 90 years with this shitheads.

Well wish you the best of luck getting Turkey out of the mess its in roachbro

Being old and frail doesn't stop top level political shit stirring. Khomeini was 77 years old when he returned to Iran.

My personal theme song now

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