Nearly 2 million non-citizen Hispanics illegally voted

It started with an estimate of 700.000, now it's 2 million, where will it end?

So much for muh popular vote.

washingtontimes.com//news/2017/feb/15/nearly-2-million-non-citizen-hispanics-illegally-r/

Other urls found in this thread:

theblaze.com/news/2017/02/09/non-us-citizen-gets-eight-years-for-voter-fraud-in-texas/
judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Do-Non-Citizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times
electproject.org/early_2016
washingtontimes.com//news/2017/feb/15/nearly-2-million-non-citizen-hispanics-illegally-r/
nbcdfw.com/news/local/Woman-Jailed-on-Charge-of-Illegal-Voting-342158051.html
twitter.com/AnonBabble

its the washington times though.. everybody just ignores it

Nice try Norway

Nice try banker kike

The only recent confirmed case of in person voter fraud was a hispanic woman.

theblaze.com/news/2017/02/09/non-us-citizen-gets-eight-years-for-voter-fraud-in-texas/

She was a registered Republican. In Texas.
If they can catch her, why can't they catch 3 million others?

People who believe this shouldn't be allowed to handle their own money, or drive a car.

Netherlands: Sup Forums's new Canada

bumperoni

Washington Times is fake news.

Nice try toothpaste

Here come the shills. Sorry shills facts don't lie.

Fake news. Mommy literally won by over 3.5 million votes and there's nothing fascist drumpf supporters can do about it!

Sanctuary cities, that's how they get to vote

NUKE THE WEST COAST FUCKING WHEN

Using the word "won' wrong

dont forget the around 3 million registered dead democratic voters

where is this waifu of mine from?

Fake news

My brother was only a g.c holder but he was on voter rolls. I made sure he didnt vote and get 20 yrs in prison. Im sure others in the situation voted just like the hispanic woman in texas who voted while holding onlt a green card.

being registered and actually voting are two different things dork

>go through hassle to register
>don't vote

Yeah naw retard. Same shit with "so what if millions of dead people are registered, it's not like they're voting :^)"

Very fake and gay news

They could've been fucking deported or maybe they're dead. Besides some states make you bring ID.

If 3 million people voted illegally why isn't the DOJ doing something about it?

Kys faggot shill.

How is that even possible?
Don't they ask you for an ID when you vote in the US?

Even in socialist France being a registered citizen is mandatory

get trump to retweet this, force msm to report it desu

no, only a few places have votet ID laws and if you try to enact them liberals flip out and call you racist

I swear they have been shitposting way harder recently. Has anyone else noticed.

Fucking Bigot. You know damn well niggers can't afford an ID.

"In spite of substantial public controversy, very little reliable data exists concerning the
frequency with which non-citizen immigrants participate in United States elections.
Although such participation is a violation of election laws in most parts of the United
States, enforcement depends principally on disclosure of citizenship status at the time of
voter registration. This study examines participation rates by non-citizens using a nationally
representative sample that includes non-citizen immigrants. We find that some
non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough
to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional
elections. Non-citizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote
needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama
administration priorities in the 111th Congress"

judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Do-Non-Citizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf

the bigotry of low expectations in action

Oh by the way, Im just a Sup Forums autist and while the MSM was bumbling over each other denying non-citizen participation and saying "no studies exist" I sat staring at the PDF......the same PDF I posted daily on this site for the entire election season.

the issue is non citizens voting which isn't exactly illegal in California. All they require is a drivers license and they give those freely to illegal aliens

>Article in 2014
>Only one
Was that really the best source you could find? I mean its better than nothing I suppose but alot has changed since the 2012 elections and 2014 midterms.

ye im surprised this isnt posted on pol more often... the number was approx 2m illegal votes in 2008 based on 20m illegals. That number of illegals could be 50m which wouldn give 5m illegal votes. Not saying its that high but its on the order of millions without a doubt

Dead illegal Mexicans have every right to vote.

>(((DOJ)))

SURPRISE!!!

Said no one.

you mean a peer reviewed study posted in a respected academic journal is the "best source I could find"?

They keep falling for this shit time after time. It's literally child's play for Trump at this point.

>find topic media will not cover
>make statement on topic that is exaggerated but mostly accurate
>ensuing media shit storm calling you a liar and laughing at you for ridiculous claims
>NO, BLACK PEOPLE DON'T MURDER EACH OTHER AT A 95% RATE... IT'S (((ONLY))) 92% DRUMPF BTFO
>NO, THERE WASN'T 3 MILLION ILLEGAL VOTES FOR CLINTON... (((ONLY))) 2 MILLION ILLEGALS ARE REGISTERED DRUMPF BTFO
>NO, NOTHING UNUSUAL HAPPENED IN SWEDEN LAST NIGHT... (((ONLY))) THE USUAL RAPES, RIOTS AND MUSLIM ON WHITE VIOLENCE DRUMPF BTFO

If Trump came out an played it straight with the facts the press would just completely ignore his statements. This is idiot-savant level manipulation and the dinosaur press fall for it again and again.

Don't they have to be registered voters first?

>2014

Audit California. Clinton over-performed and even reached Obama levels there.

This kills "The Majority"

>washingtontimes

The what?

>3 years ago was 279 years ago

Nigga, how often do we have elections?......In 2016, all data is going to be at least 2 years old.

Most sanctuary cities were emboldened by Obamas victory in 2012. Immigration (illegal and legal) Increased as well. You don't think that might throw off the study or by 2016 things might have changed? Not everything in academia means it's right automatically.

That article proves nothing, and the Washington Times is shit.

However, I'm sure millions of illegals voted, and the truth will come out. The way Trump talks about voter fraud leads me to believe he has some insider information that will drop soon.

It's been around since 1902. It used to be known as the "Washington Times-Herald"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times

did anyone bother reading the article? they extrapolated this data from a 800 sample survey where 7% of responders claimed they weren't citizens and were registered to vote

they then applied that percentage to illegal+ resident amounts to come up with "muh 2 million"

but the fact is that registrations are thrown out all of the time, it doesn't mean that there was widescale voter fraud

when is this meme going to die,
You have got to be retarded to actually believe this
Trump lost the popular vote, who cares

>and the Washington Times is shit.
Why is the Washington Times shit?

They've been around since 1902, and hardly anyone has heard of them. How can you have an opinion based on their reporting validity when you likely have never heard of them.

Point to an example of their "shit" reporting.

>did anyone bother reading the article? they extrapolated this data from a 800 sample survey where 7% of responders claimed they weren't citizens and were registered to vote
>they then applied that percentage to illegal+ resident amounts to come up with "muh 2 million"

That is how polls usually work. The same polls that said Clinton would get the popular vote.

A sample size of 1000 is what is used for almost all polling. 800 respondents is enough entropy to give a somewhat accurate picture.

well um you see it's not cnn nbc abc msnbc huffpo or spread through facebook like a virus so obviously it's a shit source

jeez god i would have even took vox or mic!!1

>Nigga
>>>/reddit/

>Old Dominion University

CTR changed their proxies.

>Washington Times

Fake news

so if anything, you are saying non-citizen participation has increased since the study was published?

stop acting like a retarded nigger and i wont call you nigga......

>current year-1

>"registered to vote in the U.S."
>Voted

GTFO you Nordic peasant.

Go be a Jew somewhere else.

That still doesnt lead us to the conclusion that their is 2 million registered to vote.

when conservatives question the veracity of academia, they are called science deniers.

Have you become that which you hate?

I pointed out two flaws with the study that could potentially skew the data and make it out of date or invalid. I never stated that the survey was wrong, (though it probably is to some extent) but don't act like everything academia shits out means it's automatically correct. They have agendas that take priority over truth or accuracy.

They're fake news

CTR/CREW has just run outta canadian proxies

No -- absentee voting is where the fraud occurs. The Left and assorted kikes will try to focus the debate on "in person voting" which is not an issue. In virtually no state do you need an i.d. to obtain an absentee ballot.

>Illegals who are registered wouldn't vote in the election that would give them the most incentive to do so.
Okay buddy, it's time to take your pills.

While I believe the bulk of the data is wrong, I still think the numbers of illegal voters was pretty high this election. In states like California it may have been pretty serious but thats probably where most of it came from. Nevada and Arizona are the problem states with Voter ID and illegals voting thats where any resources to fix this problem need to be.

It didn't sway the election though, and hillary probably still would have won the popular vote just by a lot less.

You pointed out two flaws that have no impact on the study at the time it was published and are missing a much larger point.

For years conservatives have been saying this is happening. Then when we finally do a study and get it published and cite it, you say its outdated because it uses data from the last election cycle. But we only have elections every two years so no matter what, the data will be outdated by the time it is analyzed and published.

You are trying to poke holes and discredit it rather than providing an actual rebuttal.

>j-j-just because they're registered doesn't mean that they voted!
>especially in an election where the opposition literally threatens to uproot my life!!
>i mean jeez they could have sat at home and ate cheetos and didn't vote like i did im registered lol
>not like it's a problem of only 1% of those numbers voted or anything!
>not like they SHOULD HAVE BEEN FUCKING HALTED FROM REGISTERING IN THE FIRST PLACE OR ANYTHING

absentee ballots arent even counted unless the vote difference is smaller than the number of absentee votes.

Absentee votes also are traditionally about 60% conservative.

What conservatives think and what I think are different. I'm saying this study isn't entirely applicable to this election cycle.

democratic districts dont give a shit about the legal status of the voter. they wont ask for ID, because it benefits them to have thousands of illegals voting for /their guy/.

california adds you to the voter roll the moment you fill out an ID / driver's license application. california is one the few states that allows illegals to fill out an application for drivers license. put two and two togethwr, and you have potentially millions of people voting illegaly. and if they vote democrat, the people who run the polling stations will just look the other way

and im saying your argument is shit.

We have proof of non-citizen participation in the past ergo it is reasonable, especially citing one of the points you made, that non-citizen participation has increased this election cycle.

So why dont we do something about it?

>I still have no evidence but it definitely happened because reasons

>ignoring the evidence posted in this very thread

>trump baits media by stating rightfully that illegals voted in large numbers for hillary
>media takes bait and dares him for proof
>proof gets released
>media has apoplectic spasm, realize they should have ignored it
>now it can be used to justify voter id and the end of the democratic party

They don't get how easily he's playing them. The process keeps repeating over and over. He baits them with something, they freak out and demand proof, he proves it, they end up looking like retarded partisan hacks.

No, you're way off. There were ~47 million absentee (= all non-in-person) ballots, fully 1/3 of the electorate and enough to make a difference in virtually every state.

electproject.org/early_2016

To add to your statement, illegals are allowed to vote in California state elections, and are "on their honor" to not vote in federal elections. I think the number of illegals that voted is huge, but we shall see.

there is no actual evidence of illegals voting posted in this thread

>ignoring the evidence in this thread
>ignoring the fact that an illegal was arrested for doing it in texas... early this month or last month?
>not rubbing your two remaining brain cells together to see that there's reasonable means and reasonable motive for illegals to participate in elections, much less this presidential election

how did you manage to get your head up your ass AND bury it in the sand?

How lucky.

so they were counted then.....since the difference between the candidates was less than the number of absentee ballots received.

jesus christ, its like im taking crazy pills

judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Do-Non-Citizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf

washingtontimes.com//news/2017/feb/15/nearly-2-million-non-citizen-hispanics-illegally-r/

nbcdfw.com/news/local/Woman-Jailed-on-Charge-of-Illegal-Voting-342158051.html

>thinking illegals who ostensibly have a high stake in this presidential election to not participate at all
>being
>this
>braindead

cognitive dissonance: the post

These values only work on a truly random sample, and their function is to generate the amount of "confidence" that we can have in the data against random errors, ASSUMING that the data is random.

Systemic errors (i.e. errors in the polling process that skew/bias for specific results) cannot be removed from the data without lots of data showing exactly how it influences the bias, and all bets are off when trying to predict NEW behavior based on old biases. This bit pollsters in the ass this cycle. There were major systemic errors occurring, and unless they were professional and thorough in their process, their results may be considered suspect.

>ignoring the evidence in this thread
the 'evidence' literally says they were not asked if they voted nor is there any proof they did vote in large amount

>ignoring the fact that an illegal was arrested for doing it in texas... early this month or last month?
so? its one guy. we're talking about large voter fraud conducted by millions of people.

>not rubbing your two remaining brain cells together to see that there's reasonable means and reasonable motive for illegals to participate in elections, much less this presidential election
nobody denies that illegals have motives for voting. but that doesn't mean its proven.

How do you think obama won? Illegal votes.nthat why he wanted illegals in.

will you have to watch a refugee rape a german woman before you believe its happening all over your country?

just keep moving those goalposts Hans......you are asking for millions of criminals to admit, in public, to additional criminal activity. For fucks sake

>you are asking for millions of criminals to admit, in public, to additional criminal activity

Wrong, I want to see evidence that upholds in court. Not guesses. You know, like in a state of law.

Did you read the article? They asked 800 immigrants if they were registered in a poll, and out of that number, 13 percent said they were registered voters.

You must be seriously biased to extrapolate from that that it is definitive proof that millions of people committed voter fraud.

>be JIDF
>lose arguement
>loser 0.01$
Sadface.jpg

not just motives, means. if they're registered to vote (which is a problem itself) they CAN. you guys can sit here and bitch that there's no smoking gun showing they DID, but give it time. Who the fuck would have conducted this survey before this administration? Who would even admit to a felony like this?

and who the fuck in their right mind would sit back and not vote in an election where one outcome is protection of their livelihoods and one threatens to literally kick them out of the country? are you serious?

Trump is gonna drop some serious truth bombs about this shit and you'll all eat your fucking words. It's plain as day.

last time we audited the voter rolls, the left called us fascists.

> I based my entire world view on a single overblown news story from more than a year ago: The post.

Don't need "Definitive" proof when the prior claim was that "They can't register to vote because they're illegal"
I know for a fact that around 10% registered from a small sample pool.
And if you're going to turn around and claim these people didn't bother voting then you're an idiot that's not worth explaining this shit to.

yea, the JIDF is all over Sup Forums advocating against non-citizen participation.....that sounds right up their alley

kek learn to read. I never said nothing has to be done about voter fraud. I'm just saying there is no proof it actually happened.

Call me old-fashioned, but I expect to see definitive proof of something before I get outraged.

You seemingly just want to perpetuate your own anger at the mental image you have constructed of democrats so you can keep sperging out. If it makes you happy, don't let me stop you. But your arguments amount to nothing but shitty conspiracies, and won't be taken seriously by anyone outside of this place.

>I'm just saying there is no proof it actually happened
in response to a post stating that they absolutely could have, and they have serious skin in the fight to do so

fuck off hans