The Iraq war was justified and necessary

The Iraq war was justified and necessary.
Necessary:
For decades, the US was accused of, and did, prop up dictators for our own purposes (tbf, as all other world powers do). It was used as a club against us.
Bush proved that they didn't want freedom.
It was a gamble, but the payoff of a democratic Iraq would have been enormous. The chance had to be taken.

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Justified:
9/10 of Americans wanted it. We had September 11, a beltway sniper, at least two other planes crashed into buildings, and mass-mailings of poison to political leaders. Saddam was paying bounties to suicide bombers and claiming WMD's, which we knew he'd used recently.
Then, like now, we all agreed that something had to be done about those arabs. We were being attacked, and none one else could do it. Bill Clinton signed the removal of Saddam into US law.

Arabs are not worth our time and are especially not worth our blood. We should have let Saddam keep gassing and torturing them for the remainder of his life.

All the western nations who opposed us (Germany, France, etc), Russia, plus UN SecGen Koffi and his son, made millions on saddams oil-for-food and/or selling weapons to him.
That's why they opposed it. Euros are the only people since Japan in the 1930's, and the whole world in 1989, who have went to war specifically for oil (Libya).

>Anonymous (ID: ZwkEiiUy) 02/20/17(Mon)15:17:17 No
No it wasn't, you're a retard who supports war crimes, but I forgive you because I always loved Misty and Kerri.

neocons pls fuck off

saddam also attacked the US and our jew friends, and financed attacks on Europeans.
The Euros aren't a big deal, because to this day they don't seem to care if muzzies kill them...but those are OUR peons, not his.

I agree fellow goy

Your answer was nonsense.
Which means you're a leftist.
Which means you've never thought beyond what you've been told to think, as your 'reply' demonstrates.
So don't you have a dick rate thread to post on, princess?

Thanks for confirming that leftists are incapable of thinking. Which is why you are all opposed.

Here's the UN report, for the few here capable of reading:
un.org/apps/news/printinfocusnews.asp?nid=354
The investigation of these rockets is still proceeding. Iraq states that they were overlooked from 1991 from a batch of some 2,000 that were stored there during the Gulf War. This could be the case. They could also be the tip of a submerged iceberg. The discovery of a few rockets does not resolve but rather points to the issue of several thousands of chemical rockets that are unaccounted for.

Foreign interventionism was started by the the progressives namely Teddy and his "great white fleet" and Wilson's desire to "make the world safe for democracy"

As a neocon you're nothing more than a repackaged progressive. A true descended of Trosky.

So you can scream Liberal at us all you want but whether you admit it or not you're no better tha any othrt socialist and Globalist.

okay just wtf is georgie doing

>jew friends

>jew
>friends

man why are volley ball players so under appreciated?
the girls on the volley ball team were always the hottest in high school

So then why dont we just liberate every african country, north korea, vietnam again, venezuela etc. Also interventinism and social engineering are liberal inventions.

U followed a tard. If u can justify his actions no wonder ur country is broke.

Ull be greece 2.0

You are using knee-jerk tactics.
You didn't even try to understand the argument.
Public school education in the US, right?

Yes. Jews are good people. They work hard.
You're just a dindu.
Tell us about how dey sto yo moneys.

Because there's no national interest in those countries.

U R teh stupids.
Is your mom not around to help you, champ?

they have not gone underappreciated by me

volleyball girls>basketball girls(i went to a white school)=soccer girls>softball girls>track=cheerleaders

walsh is my waifu

Destabilizing Iraq destabilized the middle east. It started the refugee crisis.

Yes, teh ME was stable derp.

justified or no i can't hate W

he just killed too many damn muslims to hate him

bush was such a funny president

youtube.com/watch?v=HvYjApa01bk

ahhh ya lynch balck people

youtube.com/watch?v=HvYjApa01bk

Volleyball is great for downstairs, but never neglect the overall remodeling job.

W was just a former chad who just wanted to run a baseball team and was totally in over his head.

They all are, princess.

My fellow Americans in all 57 states,
youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
the time has changed for come.
youtube.com/watch?v=m913UIMw0As
With our country founded more than 20 centuries ago,
youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4
we have much to celebrate – from the FBI’s 100 days
youtube.com/watch?v=bdhvPy1LIp0
to the reforms that bring greater inefficiencies to our health care system.
youtube.com/watch?v=Z16iVri3Kzk
We know that countries like Europe
youtube.com/watch?v=3nGXqsKchPk
are willing to stand with us in our fight to halt the rise of privacy,
youtube.com/watch?v=CZGW2TF1olA
and Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s.
youtube.com/watch?v=nUCVL2tLICg
And let’s face it, everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma and they end up taking up a hospital bed. It costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early, and they got some treatment, and ah, a breathalyzer, or an inhalator.
youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno
I mean, not a breathalyzer, ah, I don’t know what the term is in Austrian for that…
youtube.com/watch?v=Tr7zhnctF4c
Dangers of TOTUS: Obama Reads Word "Corpsman" as "Corpse Man" Twice
youtube.com/watch?v=ZlKIfzoC8D0

I don't speak monkey.

Yeah you're right, but the US fucked up and ended up doing a shitty job of the whole war. Should have had a plan once you've taken over, and how you would actually win hearts and not plunging plunging the whole country into anarchy for years which the ME still has no recovered from.

That's probably deliberate though.

Absolute horseshit.
I've been on pol long enough to trade in some of my left wing leanings for more rightwing and robust ideas, and you're still a fucker.

Or more precisely let me put it like this.

DESPITE never being invaded,

DESPITE the UN not supporting action against Iraq

Despite 9/11 being done by Saudi's and non Iraq, in fact Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11,

DESPITE ALL OF THIS AND INTERNATIONAL CONDEMNATION,

America STILL engaged in ANOTHER invasion of a country, on
FALSE PRETENSES,
FOR FINANCIAL REASONS
DESPITE WIDESPREAD OPPOSITION.


The Iraq invasion WAS a war of international aggression. America cannot sufficiently justify its actions even to a sympathetic nuetral party.

Americas behavior MUST be ROUNDLY CONDEMNED lest other nations follow suit.

Americas actions are, internationally speaking, UNLAWFUL, AGGRESSIVE,

and as someone FOND of America, its actions CAN WILL AND SHOULD be held against it for THE NEXT CENTURY.

"Nah mate, Invading X was totally justified." - war apologist

You are right, it was bungled.
But it's easy to call out mistakes after the everything is over, isn't it?
>That's probably deliberate though.
That says a lot about you and nothing about anything else.
The thought that Bush wanted to stay in a war most were against is fairly retarded.

It's meaningless to debate someone with your writing style. You're just a bundle of feelz, aren't you?
>DESPITE never being invaded,
Who?
>DESPITE the UN not supporting action against Iraq
The SecGen and his son made millions of dollars from saddam, sport.
>in fact Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11,
Only leftists said that. Bush never did.

Gibberish. Why continue?
Get your thoughts in order and try to communicate like you aren't batshit crazy.

WMDs:
500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says - CNN
www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/index.html?_s=PM:US
Jul 07, 2008 · The United States secretly shipped out of Iraq more than 500 tons of ... of materials to Canada "Yellowcake" uranium ... be sent by truck to ...

Did you ever wonder why there were literally thousands of embedded reports, and you had to really search to find more than 5 minutes of actual war reporting?

WMDs:
Extended-range missiles:
youtube.com/results?search_query=alpha company iraq diary

Afghanistan success:
youtube.com/results?search_query=Task Force Devil New War on Terror
Bush had it exactly right in Afghanistan.
He used SpecOps to earn the respect of the local leaders. There was real success.
Obama, ignoring all of history, decided on a full-scale invasion. He's killed thousands of American
soldiers and Afghanis for his own political gain.

un.org/apps/news/printinfocusnews.asp?nid=354
WMDs:
The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed.
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable. Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared. Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than declared.

I'm saying that the US didn't want to stabilize the Middle East, which would tie in nicely with it constantly arming and training rebel groups which they've been doing for decades now.

>it constantly arming and training rebel groups which they've been doing for decades now
'it' being the US? Or the ME in general?
Or both? Because every country, ever, constantly arms and trains enemies of their enemies.

Nah mate, I think the difference between our flags actually makes my rhetoric immune to your criticism,
and yours a bunch of self serving navel gazing bullshit.

I don't care if the sec gen made out like fucking bandits from the oil, your tacit admission being that money was a motivating factor for either side.

Bush actively led a government that perpetuated international lies, demanded action on the basis of those lies, and acted unilaterally and against the reccomendations OF ITS OWN FUCKING TOOL OF INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY, the UN.

At the moment, you sound like more of an idiot than a shill, but sure, call the truth batshit crazy if it helps you sleep at night or live in denial about the numerous international war crimes your fucking country has participated in.

What do I know, I'm only FUCKING OUTSIDE OF AMERICA, lets ask a fucking AMERICAN for an unbiased description of if America's international actions.

And you call ME downy. Nice move, tex.

ahh i remember her well

>I think the difference between our flags actually makes my rhetoric immune to your criticism,
Intellect-free statement. Don't make this about your feelz.
>your tacit admission being that money was a motivating factor for either side.
Overt. Money is the motivation for everything humans so. You too. Without it, you die.
>Bush actively led a government that perpetuated international lies
97 intelligence agencies said he had wmds. Not one said he didn't. The only lie is coming from you.
>OF ITS OWN FUCKING TOOL OF INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY, the UN.
The UN actively voted against the US on most issues. Another lie from you.
>numerous international war crimes your fucking country has participated in.
If your country had any people, you'd have done what we did. Look past the propaganda at actual facts.
And re-read the opening post. The Iraq invasion was an attempt to put the distant past and those so-called 'crimes', committed by long-dead people, to rest.
Every argument you make is based on feelings. Use your rational side.

Like a New Zealanders feelz, life is capricious and fleeting.

Let's just face it, back in 2003 the average burger wanted war. We remembered Desert Storm as a great victory and average people were grumbling that HW Bush should have finished the job back in '91. It seems impossible to believe now, but normies really did believe the WMD meme.

Seriously, the war was fucking stupid. There were no WMDs. Even Colin Powell has apologized for the stupidity of it all.

Second generation V-Agents are even worse.

>numerous international war crimes
Why didn't I mention the Maori?
Oh, right. New Zealand doesn't matter.
Good luck with your new Chinese husband. I'm sure it will work out well. The Chinese are known for tolerance of non-Chinese and respecting borders.

rural and suburban retards don't care about why they went to war

they just want to join the army so that they can blow shit up and shoot guns

they don't care

life in NZ is fuckin shit dude i'll say that much

imagine a country full of redneck retards who suddenly became millionairs overnight because of a property bubble. imagine the fucking shitfest that would produce. everything you hate about poor people and rich people combined into one.

get me out of here

There were no fucking WMDS found.
This alone proves you are fucking FULL OF SHIT.

Every argument YOU make is based on feelings.

Americas actions have been ROUNDLY AND INTERNATIONALLY CONDEMNED in this matter.

All we are engaging in here is YOUR SOPHISTRY about living in denial.

That was a really shitty case you just made. Muh other people said it was bad to do. Pff.

don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#bandwagon

>back in 2003 the average burger wanted war.
...there was another plane flew into a building, and were more coming?...ricin was being mailed to public offices....there was an unknown sniper in D.C....saddam made 9-11 a national holiday...we'd been reading for the past decades about Iraq missiles fired at our UN-mandated overflights...saddam boasted about financing attacks on allies...
Yeah, unjustified, right?
>really did believe the WMD meme.
Because they were there, princess. Spelled out above. And I forgot about the '80's chemical weapons they hid, just in case.
>It seems impossible to believe now,
No. We know about the sad state of the schools.

I spelled out the WMDs above, you morons. Can't read? Or won't?

>Even Colin Powell
WHAT?
A democrat didn't support Bush?!!!
No!1!

Get yourself under control, man. What's wrong with you?
You're ANONYMOUS. You won't win points by not thinking. You won't look bad OR good.
Leave all the fuckings and shits and etc out of your typing. Act like an adult and use reason.

i almost read your post but i just can't get over how horrible that butt is

its hank hill tier

Yep, there was a lot of crazy shit going on in 2003 that doesn't get mentioned anymore. I was happy about the invasion at the time, lots of people were, that was my point.

So he was killing Arabs *and* Jews for free? The man should have received a medal. Europe and the US are easy to protect.

>Europe and the US are easy to protect.
Hopefully, Trump will fix that 'protecting Europe' crap.
We need to leave you with your muslim truckers. Find a crowd, user. It's safe. Honest.

Fuck off, schlomo. Sage.

Also, this is a big reason why our politics have gotten so fucked up. Even when the public mood finally turned against Bush, we knew deep down that we wanted war all along, including most of the Democrats. Now we're stuck with Democrats white knighting for Islamists and bitching about "Islamophobia"

Europe really doesn't need US protection, provided we get our shit together and secure our borders (current right-wing tendencies across the continent are promising). On the contrary, we'd prefer a guarantee that the US won't team up with their communist friends to invade Europe again. I'm sure you have better things to do.

>Europe really doesn't need US protection

In Trump's era of normalized relations between the West and Russia, who poses a threat to Europe? China? North Korea? Atlantis?

>we'd prefer a guarantee that the US won't team up with their communist friends to invade Europe again.
Ignorance is bliss. Sometimes I envy your kind.
We got into both of your wars when you attacked first.
We can't make any promises. Something tells me we'll be back. And we'll free you if we have to kill every one of you to do it.

Iran strengthened in result and nowadays claims the throne of the Middle East master. Fucking smart gamble desu.

>Europe has been so peaceful all throughout it's past.

You continued to sell weapons to Iraq, so don't act like you care now.

Iraq was rival to Iran and must remain rival for balance.

You're right. Our leftists defeated us.

I get that Americans enjoy conquest (who doesn't?), I just wish you'd be more honest about it. That 'liberation' rhetoric is just unnecessary.

America's concern for intra-European affairs is truly touching.

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>That 'liberation' rhetoric is just unnecessary.
Europeans with an education know that it isn't just rhetoric. You aren't a vassal state, are you?
>America's concern for intra-European affairs is truly touching.
We only got involved because Euros attacked us. And things got ugly when we were Isolationist, didn't they?
Thanks, birthplace-of-hitler-stan. Trolling...successful!

Now...Sup Forums informs me that gorgeous Asian girls are waiting for me. Have a good day, user.

>be beta
>no gf and none in sight
>hate everyone cuz girls don't like us
>find the smallest minority to unload our problems on
>its safe, they won't hurt us
>identify with germans, who also always lost
>become omega man
>foreveralone.webm

I'd wish you a crappy day, but something tells me that's the norm for you.

>Europeans with an education know that it isn't just rhetoric. You aren't a vassal state, are you?

All European states are vassal states to the US, as any well-educated American is no doubt aware of.

>We only got involved because Euros attacked us.

How many European bombs were dropped on US territory? Remind me.

>And things got ugly when we were Isolationist, didn't they?

Again, we're truly touched by your selfless interest in our well-being.

>Now...Sup Forums informs me that gorgeous Asian girls are waiting for me. Have a good day, user.

Yes, leaving might be for the best.

> All European states are vassal states to the US, as any well-educated American is no doubt aware of.

just saying things doesnt make it true, dumb fuck.

> How many European bombs were dropped on US territory? Remind me.

irrelevant, Germany declared war

> Again, we're truly touched by your selfless interest in our well-being.

"omg pls help us americans"

> Yes, leaving might be for the best.

cunt

lol so much projecting just to cover the fact you're a beta kike lover defending the greater israel

>just saying things doesnt make it true, dumb fuck.

Correct. Political reality makes it true.

>irrelevant, Germany declared war

I guess that's what he meant by "attack"?

>"omg pls help us americans"

Nobody ever says it, but Americans somehow keep hearing it.

>cunt

silly goose

Doesn't need to be a lefty to take the red pill

Gas yourself kike

> A girl that skinny
> A perfect 10

Got no tits and no ass. Get the fuck outta here.

>DESPITE the UN not supporting action against Iraq
Actually the UN supported, but they fucking forgot they did. UN Resolution 1440. It was a Cease Fire Agreement with Iraq. Hostilities normally resume when a cease fire is over. Koffi user was taking bribes from Hussein. So was his son. So were 5 or 6 other nations on the UN Security Council.