Private property is a myth

Prove me wrong.

Think you can actually *own* land? That's where you're wrong, kiddo. Try not paying your property taxes and see what happens.

Try finding a place on earth where you can actually, truly own land. Guess what? You can't.

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Nobody owns any land, Government owns all land, we just rent it from them. The rent payments are called property taxes.

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can't get the benefits (protection, possibly some support) with none of the cost.

outside of the cities, it's a low cost though

property taxes go entirely to the local government. the only protection, if any, they provide is police.

>can't get the benefits (protection, possibly some support) with none of the cost.
what if I don't care nor need those benefits?

If you don't pay your property taxes eventually you'll end up in jail and if you resist that you'll end up dead. Am I wrong?

There is no property tax in Arizona

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is that not enough for you? police are the reason you arent getting skullfucked by a pack of niggers right now.

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Montana is where it's at homie. But for real tho, abolish all taxes

They'll take their property back and auction it off to the next serf in order to recoup back taxes.

Not true. Property tax in AZ is about 1.5% of the property value.

You can only truly OWN as much land as your Arms can defend.

Low, but still there.
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There are other ways to pay for cops and roads, by the way.

Exactly my point.

Nothing beats coming home. And nice to have a place to shelter and raise your kids knowing that same place will be there for them after you're gone or they can sell it and buy a place they like better

OP's point is that it's not your place to give away.

Nice try. OP has not point. He merely pointed out a complication to property in an attempt to dismiss the underlying attributes of property. Property imbues a right to exclude others from use. If you can exclude others from use, then it's private property. Even though you might have to pay taxes...(or eventually die)...

>I own a fucking house, but its not good enough i want more REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE government gib more!!!!!!!!11!!!11!

What is special about land that makes it subject to ongoing taxes unlike other forms of property ownership?

> government taking money
>gibs

are you fucking retarded?

You must be a liberal.
>government takes money (tax)
Opposite of gibs
>government pays money (welfare)
Gibs

>government cuts/eliminates taxes
Relief

There are other ways for paying for government services without nuking the concept of private property. For instance the vehicles you do not pay an ongoing tax, instead if you wish to use the roads you pay licensing and registration fees for as long as you wish to use public roads.

You completely missed my point

I am making fun of OP because he is not content whit that he has a house, and wants government to give him more for the same price. Kinda like a nigger screaming "gib me muney whitey"

But since ur retarded burger u completely missed that.

Which is nothing as a private citizen....

Damm, you think that's air you're breathing?
Hahahaha

What if I buy entire island?
What if I declare it as sovereign nation?
WHAT IF I AM THE GOVERMENT?

Actually you can own land, again another poster that doesn't really know law. You can submit an affidavit of truth through your county clerks office as the first step of declaring yourself a living man. If it goes uncontested in the public record for 30 days it becomes law under contract. Contract law is the most powerful in the world, it had the most president in our courts and will be upheld every time. Whem they say possession is 9/10ths of the law they mean that 1/10 is title. OP is referring to never being granted title of your land, which is ridiculous. If you are not a complete idiot you can learn how to operate through contract law and take ownership of your vessel to actually navigate our legal system. You are all enslaved through words and you don't even realize it. You are property of the state if you do not free yourself as the living man. If you dont believe me look up common law courts and affadavits of truth. Look up your all capital identity JOHN SMITH on yout birth certificate, you'll find your legal fiction there and the start of a long journey.

A tax isn't the same as paying interest on a loan. If the property was actually government owned they could just kick you out and rent it for more money.

Good job kid. You've just made the same complaint homeowners have had for 100 years. Very insightful.

The right to own something is the right to destroy it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Have fun getting buttfucked by imports/exports unless you follow the big boys rules

>what if I don't care nor need those benefits?
You either pay all taxes and have all benefits or you pay non and have no benefits. You can't go "Well I won't pay property tax, because I don't care about the police, but I'll pay income tax, because I want to use the roads."
Sooner or later you'll end up using something that was paid direct or indirect by taxes.

Ever wonder why the Rothschilds live in London? They get to own property. Like own own.

>implying I won't create self-sufficient society where I'll be the cult leader that will be protected by spears and Kalashnikovs that I manage to smuggle.

You can try making tax paradise and looking for protection from big corporations.

Yeah, I want land except I want no roads to it, no street lights, no plumbing utilities, no electrical utilities, no street sweepers, no garbage men, no parks nearby and no police or firefighters.

Also lets let my neighbors build whatever they want even if they want to build a house that covers every single square inch of their property and is 10 stories high.

Yeah but if you refuse to let them take your house..

Prove you're not retarded, Sup Forums.

The middle should be grass type not electric, otherwise the type triangle isn't balanced

some countries don't have any property tax

>There are other ways to pay for cops and roads, by the way.

Please, go on.

>middle eastern countries are the least jewy

Really rattles my marbles senpai

Who gives a fuck? Of course you can't own land unless you're a fucking king.

Property tax is pennies compared to rent. I'd rather pay it and build a foundation for my family than rent for life and give my children nothing.

Also
>Israel
>not jewing themselves

Rattles my marbles even more desu

Maybe that is myth in the usa. In free world you are able to own land.

t.land owner

>Try not paying your property taxes and see what happens.
Nothing.

this is why pol needs to become libertarian.
Rosa Parks was kicked to the curb even though she owned a home, she ended up just like Nikola Tesla, on the streets
NH makes everyone happy, its all white, well educated and of course libertarian. extreme
such as uneducated racist rednecks, who dont fight against property taxes(not constitutional) are that way because they are poor. Black thugs are just like them. socialists feed off uneducated rednecks and black thugs they create, in New Hampshire, these problems dont exis because its all white and educated, so no rednecks, and socilaism is replaced with libertariansim, something the old bloodlines that control us hate the most, hence the need to create the socialist left, which is not liberal at all.

Transaction taxes are the only legal taxes the gov could levy before 1913

You're the retard here

OP was just saying that property is not truly yours because you need to pay property taxes

>Try not paying your property taxes and see what happens.
That is why people constantly fight against property taxes.

>needs to become
>being such a newfriend he doesnt know Sup Forums and /new/ were libertarian.

Well up until 2012 we didn't have property tax. The only reason we do is because you guys Jewed up again and fucked the global economy.

Now we can't even not pay the property tax since its deducted at source. If you work you pay.

> New Hamster
> Educated

Pick one and only one.

ding ding
i know what op meant, thats why i made fun out of what he wanted, more for the price of property its despicable, didnt you read my last post?

yet you call me retarded. gj mate continue to rek yourself

Possession and exclusive access are secured via defense.

Not paying taxes means not having adequate defense.

It's as it's always been. We let the kings and queens handle this shit so we don't have to spend all fucking day shooting commies.

Do you know how many laws there are for people who own their land and house?

If they don't pay taxes the government can't kick you out, it's really hard to even remove tenants who don't pay rent that have a family.

no the 2nd amendment is

>property taxes are the only way to pay for these things

You pay property tax so your local government can retain more autonomy from the state and fed. If you don't get why this is a good thing there's no helping you.

The problem is that you don't always get someone who gives a shit about doing a good job appraising what the property is actually valued at.

You can also live in the HOA of your choice if you are concerned about weird houses.

property tax > sales tax > income tax

ok and? for that rent, you get access to utilities and pays a portion of police and fire budgets. So yeah, you get a return, most of all!! being the opportunity to "own" and "buy" and "sell" land.

Or you do own the land and property tax is bullshit

It can't be moved to the tax haven, therefore it's easy to tax. This doesn't only apply to land but to buildings on land.

Wikipedia says otherwise.

>being a sovereign citizen
>2017

Property taxes make an amazing tax base. It is literally impossible to hide land, to send land to the Caymans, to hide land on the blockchain... It's there and it's taxable.

You never want them to appraise it high since you'll be paying out the ass

I'd much rather have them come in low.

Rented from 20-28, as soon as I got a house, my life has improved so much.

The best factor of owning a house is not having to be OK with people walking around your parking area, front door, or property.

It was very hard to just relax when 5 or so people were ganging up down the hallway or some shit.

God its nice having a no trespassing sign, cameras, microphones, and weiner dogs

Lmao no rednecks in NH huh? Have you ever been to the mountains?

New Hampshire is full of rednecks and white trash

> -t. New Hampshire resident

This part still makes me laugh

I'm looking at my birth certificate right now what is this John Smith s*** you're talking about

>Guess what? You can't.


Kim Jung un did it. And guess what. He's literally the only fat man in north korea. Guiness book of records.

Just because it's easy doesn't make it right.

What is a better way to collect taxes?

>mfw all these commie, anti-private-property cucks

Sales taxes.

property taxes can be localized easier
You can live in a high tax area and then just shop somewhere else
Also lots of shady businesses don't collect sale tax

Not really for property taxes, per se. But they certainly encourage productive use of land. You're not going to unnecessarily sit on vacant property if it cost you money to do so.

I think the Casinos in "Las Vegas" (actually Paradise) truly own the land they are build on.

Truth

>police are the reason you arent getting skullfucked by a pack of niggers right now.

without police the nignogs would be extinct on the north american continent

Might is right, meaning the only notion of "owning" anything is based on who can keep other people from using it, by force. You are paying the government through taxes to protect "your" land so yes you do own it as long as you pay the government taxes to protect it

Sales taxes are a drain on the economy because it punishes consumers for buying goods.

Although income taxes are even worse because they also punish employers for hiring people.

Not buuilding a tiny house and parking it downtown next to your work. Not renting it out on air b and b wile you are working warning money for more tiny houses. Not having undreds of tiny houses in the most desirable locations around the city to rent out and profit. All tax free.

Property is derived from might