>I need an AR-15 to protect myself from the gove-
I need an AR-15 to protect myself from the gove-
You need sheckles to protect your overloads from a frog meme
those really worked well on muslims with AKs that have been dragged thru the sand for half a century
/r/ing japanon's pasta
It did actually. Iraq, Taliban and the like were obliterated in conventional warfare. Bad foreign policy allowed the insurgency groups to exist.
Right to keep and bear arms.
(No restriction of make and model of said arms)
>"Ha these rebels can't do shi-"
- Recently deceased drone operator. Cause of death: gunshot wound.
>implying a good part of the army wont fight the governement
Drones don't work to well when the weather is bad. I don't care what the weather is doing.
I need an AR15 to storm the command trailer with 10 other patriots and slaughter the 5 pale skinny-fat drone pilots inside.
>Why do you need guns they'll just use drones
>Why build a wall they'll just climb over it
>Why lock your doors they'll just climb through your windows
>Why even wake up in the morning you're just gonna die eventually
Just give up
They're for home defense you moron
The government's weakness is that it needs infrastructure to function.
The day the government becomes oppressive enough to use that caliber of weaponry on U.S. against its own citizens, be it in the midst of a rebellion or not, is the day it absolutely needs to be destroyed, free citizens should have all weapons at their disposal to overthrow it.
>I need a musket to protect myself from the gove-
>Trump is not my president, lets organize a co...
>A musket
>And the entire French Navy
>And French supplies
>And Prussian military officers
>And every other country in the world that was shit-scared of the British Empire
That said though, if modern-day USA gov declared war on their own citizens like all the yanks seem to fear, then it's not like the US people won't receive any outside support...
U R Dum Lol
US would've been rekt without French aid though.
>implying the entire military would be doing the bidding of a dictator
Next argument?
>I need an AR-15 to protect myself from the liberal left
Sorry, lil Asian man, but nobody gets to decide what I defend my household with but me.
I believe the desertion rate is estimated at around 65% for the military if they were ever ordered to attack civilians.
As would the Japanese had they decided to invade the mainland.
>drone mission costs tons of money
>have to maintain drone
>have to maintain airfield
>have to train, feed, house, and pay pilot
>have to train, feed, house, and pay all sortie producing personnel
>have to maintain loyalty of these personnel
>the actual strike kills one person who was armed with a bolt action rifle
>and three innocent bystanders, one of whom was a child
>and a power line that serves thousands of people, as well as industry
>and a gas line that serves thousands of people, as well as industry
>and a waterline that serves thousands of people, as well as industry
>and a road that is required to ship supplies to the airfield from which the drone is launched
>and the railroad track across the street that brings in food for the nearby metropolis
>the railway also brings back all shipments from the metropolis, which is a major port
>all this was caught on camera from the bank across the road, and released as propaganda for the rebels cause
Don't worry, just 4 or 5 million more drone strikes like this, and the rebellion will be done!
>That said though, if modern-day USA gov declared war on their own citizens like all the yanks seem to fear, then it's not like the US people won't receive any outside support...
The vast majority of the US military is conservative. It's the very reason why Obama attempted to dismantle and reform the values by demasculating it.
pic related
Actually they're really cheap. Each unit only costs 17 million and the US already has 200 of them and the necessary personnel. Each hellfire missile costs just 110k. Assuming two hits per day, you have 400 of your top brass dying a day for negligible cost. Laser guided missiles are also pinpoint accurate so collateral damage to large infrastructure is negligible.
And this is 0.1% of the army.
and they would have been doubly rekt if they didnt have muskets
>yfw Obama's legislation now allows drone strikes and mass prison camps for potential rebellion and insurgencies.
>yfw the official first phase is drone strike cell leader houses and round up families and sympathisers of rebels to be put in FEMA camps which are already built.
>yfw Trump will blockade California with troops if they rebel and cut all federal funding.
>yfw the 7mn militia members will be endorsed by the government to remove the rebels.
>yfw Obama paved the way for the second american civil war with his race bating,media agenda and liberal hysteria.
>those really worked well on muslims with AKs that have been dragged thru the sand for half a century
what are you talking about muzzzies are still everywhere drones to nothing
so if it's that pointless, just let us have our guns
>I don't need guns because the government will prote-
Haha, pic related is obviously larping. Actual guy who's been in the army here.
>US powergrid
All key military installations (obviously) have backup generators, and I'm not sure how looting affects this. How a rifle can take down an energy plant is beyond me. He seems to think energy plants are are giant red barrel you shoot and it goes boom!
>desertion rate
Impossible to estimate without any context of this war or the political ideology of each side.
>muh wilderness survival ex Marines
This would shift them into a guerilla fighting, meaning they can't fight and hold conventional territory. Guerilla warfare only works by attrition, which is stupid when you're fighting for your own country. The US government isn't going get tired and move to Australia.
>Russian help
Lmao and NATO just stays out of it I guess? NATO would shred Russia. The Red Army is a shadow of its former self.
>the US can't fight in the wild
Seriously? Even assuming staying in the woods is fighting the US has the advantage with defloliaters and satellite.
>a river is a choke point
??? Any military corps has a construction company that can build a bridge in thirty minutes. It's the opposite of a choke point.
>crumbling infrastructure
Is this supposed to be a joke? The US military fights in bombed out deserts. They know how to transport. What's a C-17?
>blue states are consumers
True, but they also have all the value added industries. Tech, finance, innovation - the biggest companies in the world. The blue states would have the financial edge.
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planes and tanks can't knock on doors sucka
It didn't, but even if it could: how you going to drone when the rebels are attacking your drone factories and thier suppliers every week?
You aren't.
Excellent post. Gunfags btfo. Best case scenario for a US insurgency would be something like the Troubles with the insurgents as the IRA. Worst case would be something like Warsaw ghetto. Conventional forces with reasonable equipment and discipline will always have a massive edge over irregulars ESPECIALLY when there's not a significant language barrier (i.e. they have no trouble intercepting communications and recruiting informants). It's really just a question of what the rules of engagement would be for the military, and of course those can be modified as the situation dictates.
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>All key military installations (obviously) have backup generators
That serves the military just fine, but the rest of the people in the effected area? Not so well. It's not like the military needs the support of the people they are fighting for..
>Impossible to estimate without any context of this war or the political ideology of each side.
What about "civil war" needs contextual clarification?
> Guerilla warfare only works by attrition
Hemorrhaging political credibility is the best kind of attrition. This isn't Syria, and a government alleging to be the legitimate will of the people cannot hold out all that long.
>Lmao and NATO just stays out of it I guess?
Possibly, as introducing foreign troops into an internal insurrection would destroy and facade of legitimacy for our current government, as it would compel many millions to support such an insurgency in the face of a treasonous government, and its foreign lackies.
Regardless, the rest of the world would be a bit.. "uneasy" over the worlds most powerful nuclear armed nation (and financial market) having a bit of civil war.
>The blue states would have the financial edge.
Wouldn't do them much good, especially if they can't buy food with it.
omg that post is cringeworthy. "often have better equipment outside of armor and heavy weapons"? the whole strength of a modern army is armor and heavy weapons. good luck breaking out of an encirclement without tanks and artillery.
the power grid can't be "easily" sabotaged, you would need large quantities of explosives which has exactly fuck-all to do with muh 2nd amendment and gun nuts who like to pretend they're action movie heroes.
Also, if the US Gov is flying armed aircraft of any kind over civilian airspace, looking for civilian targets, then the shit has truly hit the fan and I won't give a fuck what the 2A says or doesn't say at that point.
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Again typical gun-nut retardation which assumes that lots of gun owners will become revolutionaries (hint: 99% are cowards who will not), that police/military will just stand around on street corners waiting to be shot and most of all that counter intelligence/black ops are not a thing. If you want an example of an actual determined government (i.e., not being undermined by the Jewish media) vs. a hardened, determined resistance look at Chechnya. Torture, kidnappings, collective punishment and extrajudicial murder are all very effective if used correctly.
Also literally 0% chance that "nip" is not a American English teacher.
>implying air national guards don't also have drones
>Torture, kidnappings, collective punishment and extrajudicial murder are all very effective if used correctly.
How do you explain the vietcong then?
It's pretty fucking easy. Look up major substations in your area, shoot the transformers, done. Hundreds of thousands without power.
>How do you explain the vietcong then?
The Vietcong used all those things to great effect, much more so than the Americans
ummhmm..
I'd be surprised if the US army isn't developing robots to knock on your door. 100% loyalty, 100% efficacy...
350 million guns in the hands of about 100 million US citizens.
Say about 1/4 are leftist faggots that own guns because their afraid of conservatives. 75 million remain.
Say 1/2 of those would pick up arms and rebel. 37 million remain.
Current active military. About 1.5 million. Of which over half would probably join the rebellion.
The US military would be ass raped in a week.
%1000 more expensive
>>Torture, kidnappings, collective punishment and extrajudicial murder are all very effective if used correctly.
If by " effective if used correctly", you mean "effectively de-legitimize our government in the eyes of it's people.. and those of the world", then yes.
I don't understand what makes you think that same US government is going to somehow have a competent COIN strategy after it bumbles into a war against its own people.
This would required a coordinated attack not just some random yahoo taking potshots. What's the point of it anyways? You're just hurting the civilian population and turning even more of them against you.
>implying explosives are hard to make/obtain
kek
>if the US Gov is flying armed aircraft of any kind over civilian airspace
Welcome to a couple years ago
>drone strikes are an effective way of destroying ground-based insurrec-
God you make being stupid an art.
But Trump is literally Hitler. Shouldn't we have weapons to defend ourselves against literal Hitler?
Let me throw a hypothetical situation at you.
A 15 story apartment building full of gun owners is refusing to give up their guns. Already 15 dead cops and 20 dead civilians. So from a drone they shoot a missile into the building, killing 100's of innocent civilians,sets the building on fire, and sends firey debris on the surrounding street and neighbouring buildings.
The missile strike was shown on many live stream sources and martial law is declared and cops and military is sent to confiscate guns to prevent a civil war. Militarys splits to defend the constitution and citizens leave to the forest red dawn style and bury their guns and avoid/killing the people coming to take their rights. The gvernment shoots missiles and blows up every building people are holding out in. Fires spread because of lack of manpower to put them out. Infrastructure is destroyed and blocked. Cities burn, economy collapses, countless innocent dead.