Seriously, how did we do it?

Seriously, how did we do it?


If there is one thing that describes finnish nature, it's the winter war.

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>stalin murders the entire red army leadership and officer corps
>replaces them with sycophants who have no experience and no clue what they're doing
>army gets butchered
>FINLAND STRONGK :DD PERKELE JUMALAUTA :DDD

when your commander has such a dank name, there is no way you can lose.

also don't forget the soldiers were literally just young ukrainians who have never held a rifle in their hands before

They were also wearing olive coats in winter and the Finns made fun of them for it with their propaganda leaflets.

last ww2 battle in europe en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Odžak

And that there were ordered to charge through machine gun fire.
Anyone who didn't comply was shot in the back

Manner means continent, or ground (as opposed to ocean) in finnish, no idea about heim tho. Wasn't mannerheim german aristocracy by ethnicity? I know he hated Hitler because he was peasant scum.

Though any finn or anyone who thinks that 1945 soviet union couldn't have steamrolled finland and the rest of europe is an idiot

meme wars were part of WW2

>[unreliable source?]

This desu
The Finns turned on the Germans and kicked them out of Finland because they knew they'd get fucked if they didn't get peace with the Soviets

They tried steamrolling us in the continuation war in 1945, didn't work.

source?

idk why it says that, but this is the last battle in ww2 in europe. Probably some communist wikipedia admin or something.

>Commander
>Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim
Kek, as always with you little fox-faced cuties there's a scandinavian to do all the actual work while you're just fooling around and being cute.

On 9 June 1944, the Red Army launched a major strategic offensive against Finland, attaining vast numerical superiority and surprising the Finnish army. This attack pushed the Finnish forces approximately to the same positions as they were holding at the end of the Winter War. Eventually the Soviet offensive was fought to a standstill in the Battle of Tali-Ihantala, while still tens or hundreds of kilometres in front of the main Finnish line of fortifications, the Salpa Line. However, the war had exhausted Finnish resources and it was believed that the country would not be able to hold another major attack.[19]

The worsening situation in 1944 had led to Finnish president Risto Ryti giving Germany his personal guarantee that Finland would not negotiate peace with the Soviet Union for as long as he was the president. In exchange Germany delivered weapons to the Finns. After the Soviet offensive was halted, however, Ryti resigned. Due to the war, elections could not be held, and therefore the Parliament selected the Marshal of Finland Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim, the Finnish commander-in-chief, as president and charged him with negotiating a peace.

The Finnish front had become a sideshow for the Soviet leadership, as they were in a race to reach Berlin before the Western Allies. This, and the heavy casualties inflicted on the Red Army by the Finns, led to the transfer of most troops from the Finnish front. On 4 September 1944 a ceasefire was agreed, and the Moscow armistice was signed on 19 September.


They could've easily steamrolled you

Seriously, how did we do it?
If Hoi 4 has taught me anything it's, Sisu.

That and pale skinned socialist faggotry

That's what happens when you send all your top military strategists to Gulags and kill your generals.

The entire war was basically run by low level officers who had no idea what they were doing, luckily they learned from their lessons and improved later on in WW2 allowing them not to be runover by the Nazi's.

this also

>thick snow making it difficult for any aggressor
>no train lines meant they had to drive trucks back and forth to to supply fuel to vehicles
>mostly 16 year old ukranians with weak girly arms, barely capable of wielding a butter knife let alone a spatula
>no food. literally, something like 30% of casualties were from starvation/freezing to death
>bad formations. kilment literally thought they were just going to walk right into finland with a standing army unscathed
>they bring in semyon who sits in a room with a fire and german chocolates while raging that the soldiers are big losers who cant get anything done yet only offers "bruteforce" or "zerging" as a means of strategy
>"just go at them headon! they will run out of ammo soon enough! :^)"
>also most of the soldiers didnt support the war, poor morale

>Carl Gustaf Mannerheim

You're welcome.

Tell me about how hoi 4 does sisu? I thought foreigners didn't know that ancient finnish spiritual power.

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it just gives you artificial buffs

>Staling purges of USSR officers
>Forested terrain with bad roads
>Optimistic planning with poor intelligence
>Very strong morale in the Finnish army
>German trained officer corps in FDF
>Use of soldiers unfamiliar with terrain and climate. (Soldiers nearby couldn't be counted on to fight)

Poor morale in Soviet troops. They didn't understand why they invaded Finland to "help them" "liberate them" from the capitalist opressers. Because they saw that Finns lived better than they did. Finnish population didn't stay behind to greet them as liberators as their propaganda said. etc

Finland had plenty of disadvantages too. Almost to air forces. Or tanks. Chronic lack of artillery shells. In the later stages of war they could barely spare one or two shells against a soviet company in the open. Everything captured from the enemy was put to good use.

I remember that soviet intelligence was so bad that they literally thought that the finnish working population was going to revolt and meet the revolutionary army with open arms and a parade. While in reality the reds were beaten into total submission in the finnish civil war in 1918 and the invasion was the thing that made even the socialists of finland say "yeah i'm finnish, give the soviets hell."

Sisu is the uniquely Finnish expression for the resilience of the nation's people. Finland has faced harsh odds and will do so again.
Division Recovery Rate: +25%
Division attrition: −10%
Division Attack on core territory +20%
Division Defense on core territory +20%

Get infantry, get artillery, a few anti tank weapons and hold the line.

Being part of the Axis also helps.

see that 400,000 missing? do you think they just went back home? Russia has always had a policy of breeding into and breeding out countries. This is why they raped their way across europe and just about every other enagement they get into. The Chinese are currenelty doing this in their problem child provineces . Do you know nothing of how war works? Its just just I kill more guys than your guys.

>Born in Finland
>Fought in the Russian army
Nice try, cuck

Lol back when horsey actually made smart commentary.

yea, you might want chill down there a bit, autist

>mother tongue was Swedish
>spoke Finnish badly
>entire family from Sweden

Check and mate.

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Why have not you drawn 1 500 000 000 of soviets on your pic? Also sage

>If there is one thing that describes finnish nature, it's memes
This is now a Spurdo thread.

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What does this prove exactly ?

Molotov cocktails of course!

We are all on the same side in case you didn't get the memo

>mostly 16 year old ukranians with weak girly arms, barely capable of wielding a butter knife let alone a spatula

I dunno. These guys look pretty fit for soldiering.

>we won guise look at this we took their land
if it wasn't for allies you'd be speaking german, assuming your ancestors would be allowed to live

Please explain clealer what you are implying? That they stayed in finland, where we can easily spot any foreigner due to learning our language fluently taking +20 years from non-native speakers? This isn't usa where any mongler can look like a native in 20 days.

Are those your boyfriends from across the border?

1) The Great Purge.
2) Voroshilov
3) Soviet doctrine

Unlike the glorious scandis Norway and Denmark who pretty much folded without a fight. At least Finns put up a determined resistance even though the enemy had massively superior numbers

Is the wiki on Norway true? You mobilized only 60k men? lul

Memes are basically the spirit of winter war expressed through mspaint.

I don't know the context of the image, but I'll call survivorship bias.

And nowadays the EUSSR is destroying you without a single soldier.

Stalin used all means to slaughter people: gulags, wars. Everything to slain as many russians (and non-russians) as possible.

So the answer to this question:

>how did we do it?

Is the same as answer to this question:

>why Stalin ordered to assault a fortified Berlin, whilst he definetely knew, that it would cause hunderds of thousands of casualities?

Answer is: because fucking maniac loved to slaughter people.

POW in Sauna. I mean there is no reason to suspect that they drafted the bottom of the barrel at that point. They had barely lost any men in the 18-20 age group back then.

Usually countries don't want scrubs in their army if they can pick healthy men.

How convenient that ethnic Finns want to be part of the gang when we're discussing Finnish accomplishments (all of which have been done by the Swedish-speaking minority).

I forgot the guy who said it. But he basically said that the easiest way to beat Finland is concentrated attacks on the Karelian front until Finns exhaust their reserves. He said we have a lot more men to spare than them. Eventually we will win.

This made me hungry for COD

See this -> It was not fucking victory at all. When 30+ (probably 40+ millions) of your nation are dead. Notice: probably best ones of the nation.

Stalin is no better then Hitler to slavs in the end of the day.

Yeah. On paper there is nothing that would have prevented the soviet army from repelling the German attacks within Poland. Had they been properly led.

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Because you had generals educated in the Russian empire and soviets had some peasants as chief strategists.

Russian Empire > USSR

>They could've easily steamrolled you
>implying they didn't try

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kek

CONGRATZ IVAN, YOUR JUDEO BOLSHEVICK OVERLORDS SENT 25 MILLION OF YOUR BRATANS TO THEIR DEATHS XD

I know, Satan, feels bad.

>be finn
>raped by your neighbours, Russia and Sweden for centuries
>become independant for the first in history in 1917

>winter war begins
>finally perform somewhat good
>(still lose the war though)

WE WUZ THE BEST WARRIORS IN HISTORY 'N' SHIT

Soviets were starving in the snow.

some of my grandpa's brothers went to finland to participate in talvisota.... cheers bro!

how many of the Russians just froze to death and never saw action?

MANY SUCH CASES

We are both small shitter countries. But at least our direction is up while Sweden has been losing influence and power over the last few hundreds of years.

>Stalin used all means to slaughter people: gulags, wars. Everything to slain as many russians (and non-russians) as possible.
can't you go for prison for criticizing glorious Soviets?

your bitterness is showing, shouldn't you delete your post

Enough that they were used as signposts

Commies where killing off the excess of Russians, testing weapons and tactics for upcoming war.

Zhukov was the inventor of what is now called Blitzkrieg. It`s impossible, that USSR with all it`s resources and this high level of military minds in HQ could not steamroll your swamp.

But killing lots of Russians in insane and inhumane experiments is common for USSR.

So basically it was polygon for soviet version of [Unit 731].

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> 25
It`s actually more than 55 before ww2 and the absence of baby-booms, tied in any normal country to antibiotics+industrialization and to post-ww2. We had starvations instead.

Famine in Russian regions early 20`s, famine in Russian regions in early 30`s, famine in Russian regions during ww2, famine in Russian regions after ww2. With lend-lease payed to wall street till late 00`s solely by Russians along with all other debts of USSR.

>Muh Judeo Bolsheviks
No such thing.

FDF was the only institution which managed to stop the Red Army. Do with that as you will.

Vorošilov and Meretskov probably never recovered from their humiliation.

Yet what does our military do these days

> managed to stop the Red Army

But, Mikko, you've lost the war...

>be sweden
>go to war with russia
>lose half of your """"empire""""
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_War

>be finland
>get invaded by one of the largest armies in the world, at the time
>defend your country against the russian war machine with a rag tag military only armed with skis
>retain independence, only lose a few villages on the eastern border

hmmm... really makes a man ponder

>viipuri
>a village
Sven please

Because the Russians were utterly incompetent.

>Zhukov was the inventor of what is now called Blitzkrieg.

Complete bullshit. Zhukov couldn't hold a candle to Guderian.

Zhukov wasn't even that good, he pales in comparison to Konev or Malinovsky. Zhukov's greatest contribution to Soviet doctrine was micromanaging, elimination of local command initiative and figuring out that bringing lots of artillery was a good thing.

Hundreds of thousands. There were cases of whole batallions freezing to death long before ever reaching the front.

It was one of the coldest winters in living memory with temperatures often going well below -30C. Just to survive on marches on a weather like that you kinda have to know what you're doing, and also have some warm clothes etc. Most of the Russians were from south-eastern Europe and had know idea how to survive in Finnish winter and they had no winter equipment.

And even if you did happen to survive to the front, being actually able to fight in -30C is kinda tricky. If you don't know how to keep your fingers warm, it won't take long until things like reloading a rifle become utterly impossible.

I see Finns as the NEETS of Europe.

Theyre pretty chill and just want to be left alone to sit in the saunas and drink. But they go retard strong mode when you try to fuck with them. Much respect.

I'm still totally Finnish and have no ties to Russia/USSR whatsoever.

Don't start with the "they only wanted a buffer zone yada yada".

> FDF was the only institution which managed to stop the Red Army.
So thought poolacks, when their own generals "fought" against them in 30`s.
Apparently gassing Russian towns for not liking commies was perfectly ok with him, but not gassing glorious poolack army.

Later they attacked Czechoslovakia, effectively making USSR at war with them and now they cry, that Russian hackers executed a couple of hundreds poolack military officers in German concentration camp, because for Russians under soviet regime, installed with help of poolacks, doing this during official war in German camp was possible and is totally the military crime.

USSR also did not signed Geneva conventions about prisoners of war, that led do Millions of Russians dying in German camps, that was later portrayed as holocaust. But who cares? MUH 500 POOLACK OFFICERS!

great job from Finland, respect.few in numbers but effective
a few portuguese volunteers tried to help you, out there. we also send you food and others stuff.

the president of Russian Federation openly denounces the Soviets and named the Jews so that seems unlikely, lad.

>The Marshal of Finland

You mean that Somali poorfag?

> Complete bullshit.
Using new mobile tech - planes for reconnaissance, trucks, tanks and artillery to quickly take positions in enemy backyard and cut supply lines - was his diploma work.
Germans where only following Zhukov's guidelines.

> Zhukov wasn't even that good, he pales in comparison to Konev or Malinovsky.
He was good at implementing soviet-anglo agenda. That includes putting as much white people to death, as possible. Russians and Prussians in this case. Ones in Dresden, others in retarded frontal footmen attacks on Berlin and on Finns.
He was following agenda, when he was "spending" veterans in Berlin, that could pose a political threat to regime after returning.
Commies never fought to preserve people or make living in state better. People where merely the resource to achieve their goals. White people where the fuel. Welfared minorities where the managers on the fuel delivery line.

That is what Trump fights with now in USA. That is why we supported him. This should never be repeated.

Why do you Finns keep posting this meme? It's not like you can do it again.

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> Despite this, after over two days in thick fog and in a confused state of affairs, U.S. and Canadian forces mistook each other for the enemy. The brief firefight left 32 dead, with a further 50 wounded on either side and 130 trench foot wounds.
This is why i hate canada

Fuck off Hans. Lapland never4get

Commieboo status: Severely triggered

youtube.com/watch?v=Y5fbmEy1GL4&

based

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More based than that ?
>Pro tip you can't