Why is prostitution bad for society?

Why is prostitution bad for society?

Other urls found in this thread:

youtu.be/HApbmtryRYk
youtu.be/imgYGfH2yNM
twitter.com/AnonBabble

It's not.

I see

women rights

Prostitution is bad for a monogamous society, which is bad for women who are not prostitutes. Basically, sex is a commodity that women completely control and men have to work very hard to get, and prostitutes throw the whole thing out of whack by monetizing it.

So in western countries, a man has to prove himself worthy of marrying a woman. He has to show that he is wealthy, he has land, he has job prospects, whatever. Because it is difficult to support 3-4 individuals on one person (the husband), the woman HAS to be worth it. You need to make it a societal pressure on the male to be married, even if neither party likes the other. Additionally, men really like sex. It's fun, it's one of the strongest biological urges, and it makes more humans. So we'll do damn near anything to get it.

In exchange, the woman promises to be his sole sexual partner and bear his gene-children, on pain of death (cases in which males commit murder against cheating spouses have significantly reduced sentences). Society endorses this, because it means that 50% of the population does nothing but sit around and birth/raise children. Again, this is tremendous social and economic pressure for the man. How do we make this worth it for the guy? By having his wife be the sole provider of sex for him. Make it so that he can't get sex anywhere else, and if he does, he's branded a deviant or put in jail.

But what if I told you you don't have to do all that. You could just pay an attractive woman $200 an hour and do whatever you wanted with your life after you nutted? Prostitution throws the whole thing off kilter. Marriage is a lot like diamonds. It's valuable because society has told us it is really valuable, but when you take five minutes to look at it, it's objectively worthless.

Do you mean a society with legalised prostitution would have too many men not getting married?

I don't think household formation has reduced in the West despite sex becoming more available post-Sexual Revolution. Men want proper relationships too

Every society needs a way to keep the mass of undesirable males at the bottom tier of society from getting out of control because they have no way of relieving their sexual frustrations. Prostitution is one way of doing this.

The alternative is what Islam does: turn excess, undesirable males into brainwashed suicide bombers. Why do you think they get blessed virgins in paradise when they die? Because that's the only way you're going to motivate any unfuckable incels to blow themselves up for Allah.

>In exchange, the woman promises to be his sole sexual partner and bear his gene-children, on pain of death

Stop right there.

That's the concept. Because women are stupid and flighty, the execution is shitty.

Then everything you wrote is fucking worthless. We are talking about prostitution in Western society from a point of view grounded in reality. What you wrote is as useful as talking about prostitution on Mars.

It isn't. There's an argument that it undermines marriage, etc. but multiple countries have legalized it and it hasn't happened. Really legalizing it is a better alternative and leads to less problems than criminalizing it. Pornography is arguably much worse for society, and it's basically the same thing but instead two people film it and people who aren't having sex watch it instead of actually having sex themselves.

It is bad because it grants women the right to be masters of their own bodies and finances

I'm sorry for not being clear. Prostitution doesn't necessarily mean no males getting married, it means that sex is monetized. Married women no longer have an exclusive monopoly on sex, and have to compete with the free market (prostitutes).

Yes, men want relationships, but women would be obligated to perform more in their duties as wives if they knew sex wasn't worth as much as it once was.

Think of sex like a material good, like gold or silver. Prostitutes, if legalized, would be the Mansa Musa of sex.

Prostitution would be fine if only men over 25 could hire prostitutes.

And only women over 30 could be prostitutes

Isn't prostitution already legal in Britain? Escorts can work legally IIRC. It hasn't caused your society to fall apart or anything.

Sexual immorality, sexual intercourse is meant for procreation, not just for mere lustful leisure.

That's a good point. I'll seek to correct myself for future arguments.

I would attach a positive picture in reply but image uploading is broken atm

It's not, it's existence is a necessity in any society. Men who do not have sex become mopey losers, thus men MUST have premarital sex. Younger men worth a damn are working hard all day instead of fucking around at bars hoping to take someone home, so they instead pay Felicia the prostitute to suck him off so he can go home and not burn out. Then once he's done his hard work and has a stable income he gets to marry a good girl who wasn't a whore (the paid or unpaid kind).

It's only a problem when the family system is so fucked that people want to drop out of the mating ritual bullshit and just pay some chick to fuck him so that his head can be clear.

>having no self control

You can solve the urge you described by jerking off. Once you jerk off you won't care about women anymore.

All women should submit to the leaf, gratis.

Jerking off does not give the essential companionship aspect, and it pretty much always makes you feel shittier than when you started. People who visit prostitutes know it's not "real" but it's better than nothing or the ego blow that having to resort to masturbation gives.

Most people are frail my leaf friend, if they do not get some validation from other people they will break and become hermits.

It doesn't really compete for men that way though. Men want wives, they can't just go to prostitutes

Young men might refrain from marriage more, but it's not a big deal

Why is sex without procreation immoral? What ethical rules is it breaking?

I use them quite a bit and my wife is pretty and successful. For now, at least, there seems to be more upside than downside as it lowers my appetite for her just enough so that she always works to please me... but not some much that we don't have sex 1 or 2x a week. Women instinctively want to be in a relationship
With a man who they can sense has a lot of options. If I tried to bang her daily she would lose interest and feel like she was in a relationship with someone unworthy of her and my daughter would be in a broken family.

> Things that never happened

>If I tried to bang her daily she would lose interest and feel like she was in a relationship with someone unworthy of her and my daughter would be in a broken family.

As opposed to the family where daddy goes out to bang hookers twice a week.

Wrong. Banging prostitutes is worse than jacking off. Trust me. Authentic sex and companionship is worth 100x more than sex. You must be a virgin.

I disagree that sex is just for procreation. It's meant to be unitive and within the sacrament of marriage between man and wife, not any of this liberal nonsense.

Life is more illusory than you think. user is a wise man.

It's not anything worst then what the Jews have turned society into.

We're not a monogamous society anymore so this really isn't relevant.

Sex is already at least partially monetized.

the trick to life is losing your virginity to a hooker that way your not all caught up in the system

You really haven't visited the right prostitutes.

I lost my virginity to a legal prostitute in Europe. Did it two more times in that same country since then on separate occasions. Ask me anything.

How's it feel you will never be pure when you marry your wife and committed sin?

What's your Social Security Number?

>user is a lying boy.

FTFY. And trying to have sex with your wife increases her attraction to you, unless you beg for it like a bitch.

Marriage is extremely valuable for raising children. A society of single parents is SHIT

It causes women to not be married, and an opportunity for men to cheat on their wives, destroying the family.

All the cases used to justify johns rely on some presumption that the john couldn't get sex otherwise, for reasons of varying validity. However, ultimately you're taking a women away that could have a relationship with somebody so a bunch of men can pay her to use her as a vagina.

When it's legal everywhere, it can go to degenerate heights. When it's legal in some places but not in others, there is human trafficking and sex tourism that happens to meet demand to the legal places. Criminality has some consequences, like making it so health authorities can't oversee it, and driving the women into more dangerous and exploitative working conditions, and fueling crime, but it still ultimately suppresses the practice.

Prostitution is getting replaced to a large extent by really fucking great porn, but also being helped by the internet, and has been helped with better protection against STDs and birth control.

That's good as well, but there is enough sex to go around, isn't there?
And even if it would be better if people got married, surely it doesn't mean they are immoral for not being smart enough to do it, and having sex with prostitutes instead

Explain further plox.

Prostitution is still huge. There's been "really great porn" since humans created the ability to record video. And nearly every porn participant is a call girl/stripper/prostitute already.

5 star post

>It causes women to not be married, and an opportunity for men to cheat on their wives, destroying the family.

This is nonsense. If prostitution destroyed familial bonds then every Western government would have not only legalized it by now but subsidized it with taxpayer funds.

All sex is degenerate

>purity
Paying for sex and paying for a woman's meal expecting sex in return is the same thing in my mind. I don't expect my future wife to be "pure."
>sin
That's what confession is for, big guy.

Look at those Western Countries where prostitution is illegal, look how good marriages are and how healthy the family values are!

Sex is nearly impossible to get in society now a days unless you are ultra rich

You are shit

>Why is prostitution bad for society?

Steals women's pussy-privileges.

>It causes women to not be married, and an opportunity for men to cheat on their wives, destroying the family.

That's a decent one I didn't think of.
And it's funny that I forgot the degenerate aspect of it. It probably makes society even more sex obsessed.

Actually, the Church argued basically the opposite of what you did. A prostitute is one slut and generally looked down upon. What we have now is a society of sluts.

They are. Acts like this normalize degeneracy which is why you have sexual deviants overly represented in mainstream discourse.

It gives women options
Women aren't trust worthy enough to make decisions with integrity

It's not.

>Paying for sex and paying for a woman's meal expecting sex in return is the same thing in my mind.

Isn't that the problem? That it's in your mind?

ironic considering that the only reason anyone knows your country exists is because of sex tourism (and that boxer that got schooled by Floyd Mayweather)

>and driving the women into more dangerous and exploitative working conditions
the working conditions are already shit desu. only mega bluepilled liberals think the sex industry is some happy place where everybody gets along and all parties involved go out for drinks after the shooting is done. the whole field is about seeing women as nothing more than cum receptables.

anyways a hypersexualized society is bad for both men and women for a number of reasons. porn culture has completely brainwashed men into being subservient to it in just a few decades, there could be no porn culture when your only access was a magazine or two that nobody wanted to acknowledge existed. now you can watch new porn videos 24/7 if it was possible, all from the comfort of your room. it's unprecedented. stupid teenage girls sign up for this stuff and cry later when they realize consent doesn't exist for the camera. tough luck but the big concern here is waking men up.

It is. That is why it has to change. The decadent brand of Christianity in the country does little to combat this.

no, it's an implied social contract
women have no honor or virtue

They honestly should be murdered or burned at the stake, as they are pissing on social orders of a society they benefit from making them parasites and there is no need to justify excising cancer

Fine then, it's the same thing in practicality. I simply removed the Ahi Tuna salad the cunt wanted me to pay for from the equation and paid an Eastern European girl to suck my dick, fuck me, and let me cum on her tits for 60 euros. Is that fair?

The pussy chase keeps men involved in society.
It should still be legal though.

Only robots think that a prostitute is more cost-effective than a girlfriend. A wife, maybe, but you have a wife for different reasons than a girlfriend/fuckbuddy.

In any case, prostitutes have been around for the entirety of human civilization and we seem to have been getting on just fine.

Prostitution exists because sex is valued. If women are generally chaste, men without sexual access to women via marriage turn to prostitutes. When sex is cheap, prostitutes are priced out of the market. Prostitution is acknowledged as a compromise when society is in good order and legalized as "sex work" when society is in moral disarray.

What. In what areas, outside of CA and the northeast, is polygamy considered socially acceptable.

Yes, it is. However, modern women are spoiled sluts who have no concept of work, so the minor inconvenience of raising children is beyond their ken.

>no, it's an implied social contract

I would be curious to know how many men feel this way. I can honestly say I have never bought or done anything for a woman with the expectation that it would, or more accurately, should earn me sexual favors.

Perhaps that expectation is a symptom of the problem rather than the problem itself.

>I simply removed the Ahi Tuna salad the cunt wanted me to pay for from the equation and paid an Eastern European girl to suck my dick, fuck me, and let me cum on her tits for 60 euros. Is that fair?

It's fine by me, it sounds like you got exactly what you wanted out of your transaction. Except now I want some ahi tuna.

>Spotted the virgin.

Married men have used prostitutes since forever in all cultures. As Mens' sex drive is not matched by older women, prostitutes serve a worthwhile service.

It didn't lead to degeneracy in other historic civilisations

In fact in places such as Austrailia where in the cities it was legalised, trafficking fell and
>The Divorce rate fell!!!

Prostitution:
Consensual
Safe
Legal
Is fine.


>They could help you from being a cuck virgin.

Also:

?"A Prostitute is like any other woman, they all trade something for sex, and they do it weeeellll."
youtu.be/HApbmtryRYk

Nah,
>Be Muslim
>Upgrade wife every 8-10 years.
>Repeat 4 times.

>Be Conservative Christian
>Have one wife.
>Get frustrated and become racist.

>Be Mormon.
>Be cool.

But I think trafficking into Germany increased after prostitution was legalised

>TOP KEK.

Man is BASED.
>Salute. You get this. Learn from him /pol

Women aren't good enough to be friends with
at best pleasant acquaintances,
friends would take a bullet for you out of instinct or they aren't friends and that is beyond women

If you are spending money on a woman for a date it is because you are attempting to build into a sexual relationship.
They DO know this.

If they use you they are abusing you and are in essence thieves
Thieves (other than for food) get hung in most of history and rightfully so

Mormons are huge cucks

>$300
>ultra rich

LOL

It is a fact that a mans sex drive is higher than a womans.
It is a fact that women use sex in a marriage as a weapon aswell something special.
He uses prostitution to break free from his wifes control.
His wife appreciates his relaxed demeanor even more, that she then fucks his brains out because she knows he can say "No."

The man is a true Gent.
And why do the kids have to know?

>You saw your daddy in a 10 man gangbang didn't you?

Truth.

to clarify on the food bit that is for starving people not entitled cunts

>Be this poster
>Regret being single
>Isn't getting what he wants in Bed.
>Justify his existence by raging at the thought of others having consensual fun.

Ok is Prostitution destroys monogamy, are you going to ban pre-marital sex too?

Because women be Ho'in themselves out in relationships and all the guy offers in return is a KFC meal.

Do women not go out with Rich Chads and not marry them? Would you ban that aswell.

>Fucking frustrated cucks.

I thought they could have a harem of wives?

KEK.

You aren't controlling yourself/your instincts, your offsetting them, but you're still being led by your dick like a dog.

Are you a nigger?

The only way humans can claim to be better than an animal justifiably is because we can have integrity
Those who throw that away are lower than animals. (this is humanity though almost everyone)
You're definitionally a plebeian, and your low born opinion should be taken as such

brings down the market value of pussy and makes men less dependent on a single source.

mostly

Because the recording mechanisms and reporting structures were made better with legalisation; Hence reporting went up.

In New Zealand it declined.

Or it went underground where in Sweden buyers were banned. Run by women.

Trafficking increases in banned areas, as demand increases and prices go up. Pimps love this.

No-one cares when a Rich old man goes out with a young woman. We all know what's happening but no-one calls it Prostitution. It is though!

>If you are spending money on a woman for a date it is because you are attempting to build into a sexual relationship.

This may come as a shock to you, but not everyone who has a penis, thinks with their penis.

Let's get to the root of your frustration. When you treat a woman like a hooker, as you are with your assumptions, you end up with two outcomes:

1) You drive away women who are not and will not behave like hookers, which in your instant-gratification worldview probably seems like a victory; and

2) You attract women who are either:

a) Duplicitous enough to see through your transparent ploy and exploit it for their own personal gain; or

b) Too stupid/stuck-up to realize that they are functionally hookers in spite of their inevitable disdain for actual hookers.

It doesn't take Giacoma Casanova to figure out that neither of these work out for your best interests, not even when your interests solely consist of low-investment sex cheaply purchased from stupid whores. And this is what happens when you are stuck at the angry beta stage. You could easily get what you want with a simple change in strategy, but you won't, because it's easier to fumble around like a boorish asshole and then blame the women who don't buy into your bullshit.

It isn't if the hoes aren't coerced into doing their job

Why is your integrity tied to your dick?

Do you feel sex is dirty? If you believe it to be special, then why is monogamy so important?

Why is it the "Only," way?

Historically, polygamy has been fine and acceptable until the "Christian" missionaries turned up to control peoples sex lives.

Because it gives men an alternative to being a slave for life to a roastie.

wow 3 times.

step aside noob

i fucked 3 different hookers last saturday.

one was a thicc white woman with huge tits and ass, one was a japanese with big tits, and the last was a tiny philipina with the best tits I've ever seen.

the only downside to legal hookers is that it's addictive, i've probably spent 50k on the in the last 12 months alone

Ahem. You imply women aren't up for a bit of rumpy-pumpy. Some are, Some aren't.
Some will be the love of your life.
Some will destroy your life.
Women, like us, are people. They just happen to want different things on occasion.

One time for my LA sisters
One Time for my LA Hoes.
>Lame niggaz can't tell the difference.

youtu.be/imgYGfH2yNM

>admits to being so pathetic he cant live without sex
>heheh I'll show those roasties!

>Once you jerk off you won't care about women anymore.

True. That ruined my life.

Jerked-off every day for 11 years. Didn't make any serious effort to get girls until I was 24 and it was too late.

integrity is tied to behavior and actions taken
sex is great
no man of worth want to marry used goods,
while these women are worthless you are perpetuating their existence not ostracizing them to starvation,
and by proxy younger females into better behavior by evident tragedy of foolish women's lives

Polygamy is fine but that means a man and wives, not random whores and your wife

You are pushing the destruction of women's lives, who intern see men as nothing more than resources rather than at worst business partners in a genetic endevour providing somewhat close to equal value to one another

>Admits he'd put up with his spouse using sex as a weapon.
>Admits he'd go without sex for years if his wifeu said No.

I just fuck a fat chick every week...
S'alright...

>It is a fact that a mans sex drive is higher than a womans.

False. More bluepill bullshit.

>It is a fact that women use sex in a marriage as a weapon aswell something special.
>He uses prostitution to break free from his wifes control.

This is a pretty depressing view of marriage, one that presupposes your conclusion.

>His wife appreciates his relaxed demeanor even more, that she then fucks his brains out because she knows he can say "No."

Again, presupposing the conclusion.

>And why do the kids have to know?

Kids aren't retarded, unless they actually are retarded. And guess what, the older they get, the smarter they get.

>Ahem. You imply women aren't up for a bit of rumpy-pumpy. Some are, Some aren't.

Every last one of them are game for a rollamaroo, the question is whether they are with you specifically, and what you can do to change that.

its bad due to the degradation of the woman/man as it disgraces the holy temple that is your body, also death from STDs is an embarrassing way to die

Australian hookers must be expensive. Where I went, it was 20 euros for a suck and fuck at a brothel with only one girl available, and 50 euros at the more "respectable" places with a few girls working at a time.

First one was Ukrainian, I believe. Blonde model looks, very nice tits, decent ass.
Second was from Moldova, a little chubby, but gave a good blowjob.
Third looked like porn star Aletta Ocean. The most perfect fake tits, juiciest ass. I actually walked into the place at the same time as another dude and he got the first offer and passed on her. I was so happy. She was the most expensive at 70 euros, but i came the quickest with her. I'm really trying to get back this summer. It really is addicting.

Are you against any form of pre-marital sex?

What if a person goes out with many women but doesn't marry them?
Is that in the same level of degeneracy in your opinion as prostitution?

Do you believe women should have a place in the workplace?
If so, why can a woman be hired to clean the excrement laden anus of a senior citizen, or be treated as a wage slave for doing the most dehumanising work imaginable by a corporate structured society but cannot provide company consensually to a man for a higher price?

>no man of worth want to marry used goods,
So you would not marry a divorcee?
Or a woman that has had at least 1 monogamous sexual pre-marital relationship?