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It's an intentional ploy to put ethnic Britons off of having children, among many of (((their))) ploys.

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To spread the white race. I want children one day, unlike you, goyim.

It's your own flesh and blood.
Alternatively you could stop being a poorfag so you can give your child a better life while spending a smaller percentage of your income.

It's free for muhamed

if you not going to pass your genes on you ulitmatly fail as a living organism

Good question and valid
Many ways to look at it
You arrived alone and will die alone so why the fear about living alone
Then people need to ask if they're doing any kid a favour by bringing it into this world
Also, the stress and expense, sacrifice etc of raising a child can destroy the parents' relationship leading to divorce, single parenthood, step parents with those pitfalls not to mention life of dependency, welfare, poverty, resentment

Not too many reasons to have a child these days. It's not the middle ages
Churches used to try to boost their numbers and power and wealth by urging people to reproduce but more and more people lean away from organized religion now so the pressure to reproduce has lessened
Convention of course
And there are always those for whom reproduction is about the only thing they can produce so they do it and pretend they've achieved something (which cats and cockroaches do without fanfare of course)
Why put more consumer on the planet when it simply enriches the already rich?
Lot to think about

>Alternatively you could stop being a poorfag
Okay I'll just go and win the lottery then.

Just donate sperm. You're not an uneducated manlet are you?

Shariablue go away.
SAGE

That's right, gaijin! 230,000 British Yen to raise a child! Just think about how many cuddle pillows and anime figures you could buy with that money!

*rubs flippers together*

If it's so expensive, how can Akbar's fuck like rabbits with litters of 10 children?

Because they get gibs from the govt obviously.

This.

Money is not the most important factor in raising a child. Most people have been poor for the last few centuries.

Your state of mind and wisdom is what matters when raising children. There are good poor parents, bad rich parents, and vice versa.

>american intelligence ejaculation

>paki in disguise don't want you to have white babies

every time

Yeah man, just like Schopenhauer, Newton and Tesla, what a bunch of failures

Please tell me you're trolling

>generate zero income
>spend zero percent of your income on your children
>let the taxpayer pick up the tab through gibs

There you go. Spread the word, I've come up with the solution.

Trust me, money is important when kids need new shoes, money for school excursions, the latest brand sneakers, laptops for school, dental treatment and again, dental treatment

Kids demand ready money on constant basis
Kids who can't conform with their peers as regards dress, housing, parents cars, etc. are bullied. Yes, they are bullied and friendless. As in adult life, kids don't want anything to do with the kid who has no lunch, who has wrecked shoes, ill fitting school unform and general clothing
Kids who're bullied suffer. They can't find solace in drugs or drink like their parents
They love their parents too much to tell them they're being ridiculed, ostracized and bullied for being a poor kid. They don't want to shame or embarrass their parents. So they suffer alone

Those kids become marginalized. And teachers don't help and often pick on the poor kids

Kids who've been raised in humiliating poverty are usually friendless unless they can find a friend in another poor kid. They are not invited to birthday parties. They lack confidence and live with constant feelings of inadequacy and shame. That continues into adulthood even if by some miracle they manage to construct a normal life

Don't minimize the importance of money when it comes to raising a child. It's a major element

To prevent Tyrone and Achmed from flooding the world with shitskins

To save the white race of course!

All this shit about the white race
If it goes kaput then it goes
Don't use kids as weapons against non whites you idiots. Then leave your kid to fight your battles
If the white race goes extinct then that's that. you'll be dead so you won't know or care. And the non whites will just have to get along under their own fucking steam
But don't toss white babies like fucking bullets

>Not wanting to make white babies because muh money

Are you jewish ?

>t. Ahmed

Yeah goy stop making babies ! Just die alone and watch the shitskins conquer your country !

No, I just don't want to spend almost a third of my annual income on raising a child.

And before you tell me that you don't need to spend money on your kids see

Not like white Brits can't get those same gibs.

>UKcucks spend over 10k pounds/year on a child
>an average Polish adult with with own place needs half as much
kek

We can but most whites are too "proud" to ask for gibs.

Probably because we'd be ostracised by our peers for doing so. Ethnics on the other hand don't give a shit. They just take as much gibs as they can get.

Well yeah if you live in a third world slav shithold like Poland the cost of living decreases. Who would have thought...

>why would you have kids
>why would you raise them
found the kike

No he is pointing out poles can live off that money here in the uk.

Having kids is the only important thing in life.

Shills fuck off

>Having kids is the only important thing in life.
Why?

>all these attempts and still no male heir
JUST

Oh, but wait, mudslimes can shit out babies like there's no tomorrow and somehow they can still get by. They're laughing all the way to the ballot box, OP. Fuck money, acquire children.

Considering that Newton was a probable faggot and was getting a bit strange by his later years.

And Tesla went completely insane, yeah they kinda were failures, it just took a while for them to hit the wall.

Most of the things you mentioned happen in the later years of a kid.

You could just not be a dumbass and save money while the kid doesn't need much. Also you can start to tell him no from time to time.

Oh no he has to fuck his hot wife some more until a boy pops out
How terrible

Because unless you are a Genius who has done something important for Humanity you will be forgotten 3 years after you die.

Only on the condition that I get to kill any bitch that demands kinderbucks out of nowhere

>no son
I feel for him, since we all know that at least 3 of his daughters will end up as whore-slaves to BBC

Kids suck and so do you
Digits confirm with the power of kek

>have less than 700 Somalis working out of the 160k in the UK
>.49% are working
>complains about babies

mhh

You're missing the point.

Ethnics can breed like rabbits because they have no qualms getting gibs from the govt. They just view it as free money.

Whites on the other hand have been raised with the notion that it's wrong and even shameful to collect welfare.

Middle income white couples suffer the most here. Either they have only one child or none at all or they suffer a serious decrease in living standards. Things are hard enough for the middle class as it is.

So?

You'll be forgotten even if you have kids. I bet you don't even know your great grand parents' names.

whites: destruction of the structure of the family

others: maintain and nurture the idea and the concept of a family structure

>Whites on the other hand have been raised with the notion that it's wrong and even shameful to collect welfare.
>Suddenly Chavs become a new ethnic group for the purposes of my argument

I want to see the actual calculation. I bet you they doubled or tripled the real price of everything a nd added a bunch of non-essential shit

Not at social or species scale. But you have to be creative some way.
Many creative people didn't have children but their work is considered important to mankind. Actually women aren't attracted to geniuses because they can't control them.

>no housing shortage due to mass immigration
>no niggers
>no pakis
>no Muslim child sex gangs
>no widespread FGM
>you don't get jailed and then killed in jail for putting a bacon sandwich in front of a mosque
>hardly any mosque
>beautiful women instead of ugly fat slags
>comfy af
>great cheap healthcare if you go private
>cheap everything yet high quality
>great food instead of having to choose between either bad English food or poo-in-loo vindaloo
>no degeneracy and cucks everywhere
Poland is GOAT if you have more money than the average, which is easy to achieve if you're smart. I'm not even Polish.

you make kid and build a family because there's nothing else to do

traveling is over rated
not enough video games to keep yourself occupied

if you're brown, the govt pays for it

Some people believe children have to get everything they want to thrive. Probably in reality the necessities to raising a child are much less than what people will tell you.

Being remembered doesn't matter. If you live in a really old house then you don't remember who designed or built it, yet you still very much enjoy the fruit of their labour and their lives. The world we were born into was built by mostly forgotten people, yet we can enjoy it, as opposed to having been born in a cave.

To middle class white people: Don't have children goy! They're expensive and annoying! Hehe, wouldn't you rather have a new car?

To poor welfare-reliant immigrants: Have kids! Reproduce! Kill the white race! Come to white countries and have babies, we'll pay you to raise them!

It's not even that I'd rather buy a new car, it's more that I'd rather retire at 40 instead of wagecucking until I'm 65 to pay for my kids' education.

Yet people always yern to learn their ancestors and from where they came.

As long as records are kept and names are taught it's highly unlikely you will be forgotten unless a catastrophe of large proportions happens.

newsflash, you're not retiring at 40 whatever happens

literally stop and think for a second, what kind of woman seriously visits a sperm bank to get pregnant. you wont like the answer. 4 kids with a premium genetic specimen beats 30 kids with trash genes.

Sure I am.

You can retire at 30 if you're smart about your spending and don't fall for commercialism.

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To find a "premium genetic specimen" as you put you either have to be rich, famous or a premium genetic specimen yourself.

I'm none of those things.

sure thing pham

Look into how sperm banks work before making a statement like this.

Enjoy your new Xbox eternal poorfag

teach him to fight, get him into weight training, boxing and public speaking and team sports early, feed him well, tell him to stand up for himself and that everyone is a cunt, let him bring home pussy and crush it. tell him if he wants cool shit he can go geta fucking job, and never give him anything he doesnt have to work for ( apart from food, support, council and shelter ), fuck everything else. health insurance covers dental and medical.

and dont give your daughters anything unless they suck your cock first. teach thrm to be good little whores so they can marry and control some rich cunt.

CHEAP AND PLEASURABLE AS FUCK

kick him the fuck out if he becomes a 420 blaze it useless faggot too

Topic discussed:

The abhorrently high cost of childcare due to overpriced diapers, etc...

ITT:

>facing race extinction
>want to create another being to fight a race war with more reproduction in the future

Yeah, we've been reduced to baby factories.

Just fuck up a new life. Why not?

>Not giving your kid everything off the bat when he wants some shit is fucking up his life

Kids managed to raised fine in the time of war, if the kid has the right nutrition, and you are not mentally challenged when raising it the kid will turn out fine.

How the fuck do they come up with these numbers. I would think it would be in the realm of 60k not 200k.

Read the article. The figures are all there.

Obviously, if you cut corners and deprive your kids of toys and clothes it will be cheaper but your kid will then be ostracised by his peers and likely resent you growing up. see

Why do they all look the same?

>Childcare/ Babysitting 67,000 pounds

There is your problem

Also:
>Education 70,000 pounds

Like what private schools?

They don't?

just throw him in public
private school weenies always end up weird

If you remove that and babysitting the cost goes down to 87,346

You could bring said cost down lower by making him get a job at 14-16, not buying him a car as the Jewlegraph says. Heck going full jew will probably cut that number in half. Especially if you have 2 kids since then you have the older one take care of the younger one and then both parents can go back to work.

That is idiotic, feeding and nurturing a child does not cost that much you faggots.

It's including all the children your wife is having with migrants. Title should be "Average cost of raising your wife's children in UK""

Cost of uniform, school meals. Though that shouldn't even add up to half of that, so who knows.

>~11k a year
>29% of your annual income
Get a grown-up job

Doesn't the state pay for that shit and do you guys still have uniforms in schools?

>If you remove that and babysitting the cost goes down to 87,346

Are you retarded? Who's going to look after your kid when you and your wife are at work?

Public schools generally don't have after school activities so your kid will just end up joining a gang or getting into drugs.

>get a job at 14-16

What the fuck? It's like you want your kid to not have a social life and be completely ostracised.

Jesus Christ I feel sorry for your kids if you ever have any.

What about text books, school trips, laptops etc...

You can get free school meals, I think like a 3rd of my year were on them. Or bring lunch from home. Uniform you do have to pay for though.

You had to pay for text books?

I was privately educated so I don't know what poorfags have to pay for desu.

Fair enough. School issued the textbooks, complete with doodles and annotations so you find out what girl that left about 5 years before you arrived was "well fit".

we get free laptops here ( now, sister did. i am too old fag ) and keep them after graduation @ public

>Are you retarded? Who's going to look after your kid when you and your wife are at work?
>Trusting your kid with strangers
>When it's proven that they are better of in every way being raised by a parent for the first 5 years

>Public schools generally don't have after school activities so your kid will just end up joining a gang or getting into drugs.
>In UK kids don't spend time doing shit together unless they are in an organized school activity

Your nation is shit Achmed

>What the fuck? It's like you want your kid to not have a social life and be completely ostracised.

Have you ever been a kid dumbass?

Nobody ostracizes anyone for having a job, in fact it give them respect.

>What about text books, school trips, laptops etc..
HE PAYED FOR TEXTBOOKS
HAHAHA


So then it still wouldn't add up to such a large cost.

Maybe that explains why you are autistic and don't know how kids function.

And if you have been privately educated and still can't afford a kid that means the education was shit.

no wonder only government funded muslim invaders are having children. in sweden they get 3000£ welfare per month and free housing if they have 3 children

>wageslave
>spend a quarter of your earnings on one child
>jobless
>government pays you for your six kids

Pretty cool system desu

Well you're Romanian so your kids are probably going to end up as beggars or prostitutes anyway I guess.

In the developped world however, it's quite important to ensure that your child is not only well looked after and educated but has that necessary modcons that will gain him acceptance among his peers so that he can have a healthy social life and not be known as "the poor kid".

>the goyim aren't having kids and spending money recklessly anymore
>we need to import third world shitskins to buy and consume our products
>just tax the goyim to pay for them

That's the jist of it sempai

>Well you're Romanian so your kids are probably going to end up as beggars or prostitutes anyway I guess.

If there would only be an argument.

>In the developped world however, it's quite important to ensure that your child is not only well looked after and educated but has that necessary modcons that will gain him acceptance among his peers so that he can have a healthy social life and not be known as "the poor kid".

Again your autism is showing, unless brit kids are the douchebaggiest faggots on earth nobody will care about how much their parents make.

2ndly your kid will be lucky if he will keep contact with 1 person from High School after he goes to higher education or gets a job. Meaning that the High School doesn't fucking matter, and neither does middle school.

Also will the kids really give a fuck if your kid has a nanny or a mother caring for him till he is 7. Probably not since nobody gives a shit.

Let's get some things straight there lads.
Dead people don't give a shit about any of there things:
>how you will be remembered
>how many kids did you have
>how much did you contribute to the genepool
>were you an evolutionary failure or not
You're fucking dead. You don't exist. Nothing matters for you anymore. Hence all these arguments are just stupid.
Have kids if that makes you happy when you're alive, that's it.

This. These articles arent adressed at Muslims shitting out Children every year

It's not about how much their parents make you dumb gypsy, it's about what sort of clothes, shoes, watch and phone they have. Your social status matters.

Nobody wants to be friends with the poor kid with hand-me-downs.

>Your social status matters.

No it doesn't, but you don't know that since you were a ponce in private school.

My argument was nihilistic in nature.

This entire ordeal is as ridiculous as it is benign: We squabble among members of our own social class and lower, yet those orchestrating the whole mess are left untouched.

KEK

That is absolute bullshit though

What are you buying your kid if you have to spend 1065£ a month for 18 years straight?

Wow you already don't love your kids.
You are way more focused on yourself, hell, you have not even mentioned tfw wife you might have (you know, then one who'd bear you children?). You keep talking about how boo hoo my kids will be such a financial burden boo hoo. There are people right now, raising kids and still living a comfy life. Sure, they don't have the newest TV or other fancy gadgets, but they find a way to love well, because they love each other and are willing to support each other no matter what.
I think you need to mature a bit more before you should consider having kids

they can buy their own shit at highschool age where that shit matters

shoes? 120-200 per year
newest phone on plan? 75$ per month
watch? its fucking 2017
clothes? school uniform is a thing
and the social status goes to whoever is fucking the best looking girls + height + fighting ability + sports position ( caption eg )

u have no idea ay

>$280k over 18 years
In what first world country is that a lot of money?

Seeing how the average American makes 30-40k a year, it's quite alot