Germany will move to create a joint air force with France this week, as well as to join defence initiatives with the Netherlands, Norway, Romania, and the Czech Republic as part of a drive to integrate European militaries.
Germany will move to set up a joint fleet of Lockheed Martin Corp C-130J transport planes with France and sign a declaration of intent to join a European multinational fleet of Airbus tankers, led by the Netherlands and already including Luxembourg.
The planes are set to be based at Eindhoven Air Base in the Netherlands, and at a German military base at the Cologne-Bonn airport, the sources told Reuters.
An expanded defence cooperation agreement will also be signed between Germany and Norway, including procurement plans for submarines and missiles, as well as joint training, logistics and maintenance efforts.
There will also be declarations of intent for joint training and deployments of land forces with the Czech Republic and Romania, the source added.
Good luck recruiting soldiers that despise the Eu and refuse to fight for the other 26 member states
Matthew Gray
our recently elected president is a fighter pilot (and i think general), i would be very surprised if we were left out of this
Kayden Wood
Feels good man.
We First Lady, EU Army
Slovenia finally STRONK
Jaxon Bell
don't make me come over there and show you my solidarity
Nicholas Perry
Next: exclusively muslim divisions for refugee integration and diversity
Because we never fucking learn form basic history
Hunter Watson
and as always 90% of soldiers, planes and vehicles will be paid for by France while Germans jerk off in a corner pretending the 90's never happened.
Jose Wood
Muslim Democrats will be an EU political party in our lifetime
Tyler Miller
yeah, and you will like it.
Josiah Peterson
Defense against who?
Nathaniel Thomas
This meme army wont help you one bit
Angel Gray
The best of them won't come for money; they'll come for the REICH.
Carson Hughes
>superpower by 2030
Nolan Hill
Ov vey, its the start of the fourth reich.
John Hernandez
And it will collapse when Le Pen wins in May
The funny part is most of the military will vote for her
Luis Cooper
>USA cuts military funding to NATO
>Russia saber rattles, forcing more funding to NATO by European countries
>Forcing cuts to entitlements
>Horde of radical Muslims that were previously being taken care of by entitlements chimp out
>European countries forced to spend more on security
>death spiral confirmed
Logan Cooper
against toxic Eastern European masculinity
Connor Jenkins
So, basically the same shit they've been doing since 1949, except under the NATO.
Jayden Reyes
>having to combine 30 third world eastern europoor shithole
SAD
John Butler
>Fourth reich
You know that 90% of the army will be French right ? I have nothing against germans but the Bundeswehr is a fucking joke
Easton Foster
We'll be fighting WW3 within 20 years >USA, Russia, UK vs >Islamic Republic of Europe And The Middle East
Eli Bennett
>Hello, my name is Bernd and I have not been following any of the military joint operations which have been conducted for decades between EU and NATO states, so this is surprising news for me hence I came to pol in my befuddlement, the thread
Jaxson Perry
Germany's military budget is at 40 billion and thus as large as the France's military budget, Ahmed.
Landon Howard
Also against the bigotry and racism of the slavs
We'll only fight for multiculturalism and LGBT rights
as long as we sell more Airbus planes and you let us shit up Africa as usual why not
Joshua Davis
Nice, an army to shoot evil racists that dare criticize the beautiful religion of peace.
Bash the fash!
Kevin James
>massive army of obese kartofelnsalat vs. highly trained surgical force
Grayson Brooks
>integrate European militaries.
What so now everyone will be forced to use broomsticks instead of rifles?
Angel Morris
>France is the only EU and NATO country left with a decent sized standing military and legitimate force projection capability
>Germany forces you into the EU military so they can continue to cut their personnel and not have to replace their grounded airforce and 1/3 active tank divisions
Taking advantage of your socialist government killing French small arms to rape you with Hk 416s is even worse.
Rest in peace frogs
Aaron Davis
>but 99% of it goes to Israel Are you confusing us with some other country?
Last I checked, we only have Israelis nuclear-capable death submarines years ago. That is all. All their other equipment is sourced from Burgerland.
>2.1% of GDP, you're at 1.2% Not according to facts. You aren't even close to the 2% NATO target, Ahmed.
Jonathan Walker
Yes, "Made in Germany". Why do you think we are export #1 in the EU?
Elijah Flores
>Spend all of WW1 and 2 preventing Germany from dominating Europe >Still join them anyway
Look like Hitler's pan-germanicism is going to happen. Just not in the way he envisioned.
Landon Taylor
Well this makes things simple.
A demoralised, disorganised and non-nationalistic military are easy to defeat.
Cameron Wilson
I don't know why either of you are bothered any EU army down the line is pretty much going to be France and Germany paying for Eastern European soldiers.
Justin Gray
>Your planes can't even fly. At least they aren't made by French companies.
John Hernandez
good thing we have no enemies
Cameron Roberts
Come and get some you cunts.
Isaac Watson
B-but russia...
Aaron Ramirez
The EU might have started as the neo-French Empire, but after allowing Germany some economic power, and after the decline of the political part of the EU, it is clearly turning into a neo-German empire instead.
German exports should, in a normal market, be making their currency very expensive, and balancing out. Instead, the other EU countries keep it down, so Germany is exporting with a low currency that won't go up, and is making a killing. It is getting filthy rich. Also all the le debt memes, in reality the EU is loaning money to bankrupting states and companies, and Germany is loaning to the EU. Germany stands to lose nothing, it is gaining and gaining.
Germans played their cards right. Paid little for the unification, got back on the stage, conquered France's coalition from inside, and now they will undoubtedly be in charge of the union army, if not de jure, at least de facto.
Elijah Kelly
"Please don't vote for Brexit" they said. "The Nationalists are lying to you" they said. "There's not going to be any EU army" they said.
Was anyone dumb enough to believe that shit?
Lincoln Foster
>bundeswehr is larger than the French army still after the recent manpower cuts
Yeah no. French don't count reservists and pogs as active duty troops in the army figures. The bundeswehr is mostly a glorified MP force.
>wasting money on a joke nuclear arsenal
>thermonuclear arsenal >waste >joke nukes
Ecksdee
Jayden Gray
>Not according to facts. You aren't even close to the 2% NATO target, Ahmed.
pretty sure 2016 is the first year in centuries we're lower than 2%
Chase Robinson
So does this mean you're back?
Oliver Nguyen
IF JEWS ARE SO BAD WHY IS GALIL-CHAN SO CUTE, CHECK MATE RETARDS
Angel Sanchez
Not by Ukraine. We get your fit, white, sexy women, you keep your men.
Jordan Fisher
>vote Brexit >continental coalition that Britain isn't a part of >with a continental trade network that Britain isn't a part of >with a continental army that Britain can't rival >without even needing to go to war to achieve this
Napoleon is getting an erection in his grave. The British workers and merchants might be liking it, but I can tell you for a fact the British government isn't. This is a strategical and geopolitical disaster.
Josiah Jenkins
The actual fuck ? No one has a significant amount of planes around here. Also Germany has more common planes with the UK (Eurofighter) than with France (Dassault shit only) Germany isn't interested in force projection, so they'll never give money to make a second aircraft carrier. This is another one EU illogical decision that will cost a lot of money and produce nothing.
Xavier Rodriguez
You're a second-class member of the EU. You're only let in to act as a protectorate and economic colony. Don't pretend that your country is a true co-ruling party of the EU, rather than the EU ruling your country. The ECB has raped Greece and Iberia as it pleased and Merkel and the Commission has told them what to do, and Bulgaria is not powerful, prosperous or influential enough to be an exception to that.
Samuel Adams
This makes no sense. Sounds like they just want to be able to start their own wars.
Parker Bailey
forgot proxy ivan?
Dominic White
>German exports should, in a normal market, be making their currency very expensive, and balancing out. Instead, the other EU countries keep it down, so Germany is exporting with a low currency that won't go up, and is making a killing. It is getting filthy rich.
Wrong, we are exporting shit at prices which are too low. We are not making a killing, we are offering good products at a 40% discount thus lowering the living standards of millions of Germans.
The only people profiting from the EU are the uncompetitive Italians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Poles etc.
Eli Thomas
Based Slavs and Anglos.
It always comes down to Us vs the Continent.
Daniel Foster
>Germany isn't interested in force projection, so they'll never give money to make a second aircraft carrier.
I am sure they'll loan the EU money, so it can loan France money, so you can pay for the USA to make one. Delicious interest rates, mmmm das gut.
Kevin Perry
good luck on your third try
Xavier Hernandez
REICH HALTIG
Hudson Moore
Remember the last time a German state tried to rule a multiethnic empire? I think the Habsburgs are going to live again through Merkel.
Cameron Flores
Its mostly an excuse to hand over tax money to corporations. The EU wont be using their military. Guess who manufactures the most weapons in Europe? Germany and France.
Hand over that money Eurogoyim.
Isaac Allen
>French don't count reservists and pogs as active duty troops in the army figures. We do not do that either. Look it up, Burger.
>>thermonuclear arsenal >>waste >>joke nukes Yes, nukes are irrelevant. Once they become relevant, things in this world are over anyway.
Levi Campbell
when was the WW2 thing repealled? since when can germany have a standing army?
Joseph Miller
>implying that isn't already happening
Germany recently equipped Greece with Leo 2A7's and have been making a killing selling weapons and parts to Turkey in the AL bab roach grinder.
The first step is to use France while they build Poland up into the EU military force with the Greeks.
Jose Taylor
>Napoleon is getting an erection in his grave. At France being a junior partner to Germany?
Nice keeping up with the news there, Ahmed (or French ex-pat, but I repeat myself). That shit was before the referendum. Afterwards the EU dropped the lies and pretense and went full-scale ahead with in-roads to an EU armed forces.
Samuel Watson
Low euro, more exports, more money. Each product sold is still a profit, but because the euro is lower, more products are being sold internationally, since its more affordable for foreigners. China and USA buy a lot of german crap in bulk. This increases german production, gets money rotating, taxes, etc.
You are delusional if you think a low euro doesn't benefit the biggest exporter to non-EU states in the union.
Eli Collins
>Remember the last time a German state tried to rule a multiethnic empire? Yes, it endured 700 years and was glorious... until the fucking Burgers started to interfere in ww1. The Habsburg empire could have endured until now, if Burgers had not interfered. The Russians were already defeated in 1917 and Austria and Germany were gearing up for the final blow to France, the UK and Italy when fucked up Burgers said "uhhhh, it is our war too, need to get in the action for no reason at all".
Jason Bell
Hey Germany you can set up naval bases in Ireland for the Atlantic, we aren't cucked we just want to piss off the brits
Charles Reed
At the coalition itself, not necessarily at who is leading it. I can see his small italian cock staying hard looking at Britain leave the EU, but his feminine shaved balls entering back into his stomach at the memory that he didn't burn Berlin when he could've.
No homo.
Juan Torres
The citizens of course.
Logan Lopez
and since when France should go with Germany ? not that I like anglos more, but we have nothing to do with Germany, they are economical competitors, they lie more in the east, they aren't interested in southern europe, etc. no common ground at all. The only time I'll agree to join with Germany will be to get rid of the UK.
Carson Reed
Bongland has us to help her along. Just unretire the Avro Vulcan and bomb the Continent more
Michael Parker
kek we're fine, thanks
Jonathan Young
That was WW1.
West Germany had close to 700,000 men under arms during the height of the cold war.
In 1990, the Russians made Germany sign an agreement that if it united with East Germany, its army would not exceed 385,000 active soldiers. We are at 200,000 right now.
Cameron Hernandez
I didnt think of that. Maybe an EU army is a good idea.
Kayden Myers
I once had a debate with an Irish nationalist who argued that Britain purposefully kept Ireland poor in the 19th century so as to drive people towards becoming soldiers.
That's certainly what happens here the Western European countries will pay for an army of Eastern and Southern Europeans equipped with Western arms. It's brilliant really.
Ethan Martinez
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Thomas Turner
Who are you calling ahmed, mohomad?
Tyler King
>Each product sold is still a profit, but because the euro is lower, more products are being sold internationally, since its more affordable for foreigners. China and USA buy a lot of german crap in bulk. Absolute bullshit.
What is happening is that we are subsidizing the rest of Europe in the hundreds of billions.
You know what Germany could do with its own currency to stay competitive with a weaker German currency? Just print a shitton of money and hand it back to the German people.
So what is better, being in a Europe with a weak Euro allowing us to export at competitive pricess OR have our own currency and handing hundreds of billions to Germans as tax rebates to get to the same low exchange rates to stay competitive?
Easton Wilson
You export to EU countries at above the international the market price, your currency costs are artificially reduced by the Euro, at the expense of the poorer countries. The currency union pushes up the price of all manufactured goods, spreading a burden on all EU citizens, meanwhile manufacturing is more concentrated in Germany and more of the benefits of higher prices go to Germany. The EU is built to subsidy your economy in every way and you still come here and cry crocodile tears.
Kayden Stewart
holy shit we are fucking doomed.
Christian Garcia
>Czech Republic who is the backstabbing fucker now?
Jordan Ramirez
>nuclear weapon usage is the end of the world if it happens and not just another step on the ladder of violence escalation
Way to pay attention to NATO doctrine m8.
>look up the bundeswehr to see if it's true >literally counts cadets, multi national troops, UN troops, special police, and reservists in the 60,000 ground forces count
>fucking cadets listed as active troops in battalions >Americans and the Dutch in multinational force goes toward your total too
I'm so sorry Germany. Please get your shit together. I beg of you.
Blake Taylor
They won't fight for other euro states, they will fight against them. If Poland refuses to accept refugees then Merkel will send italian troops to force them. When Italy says it's enough then Merkel will send french troops, and so on, because this way the army won't revolt about attacking its own population.
Samuel Bailey
You want your currency low if you are a net exporter, imbecile. The whole american presidential election was Trump calling the chinese out for artificially keeping theirs low. >i wish we could just print money to be competitive :D You are economically illiterate and should stop posting.
Jonathan Reyes
So? Our trade surplus is not with the eurozone countries. We could just as easily do QE in Germany by handing billions to our citizens... would also suppress our own new German currency, but with the added benefit of making Germans rich in the process.
Luis Morris
>EU Army
Just the European Union funding French Army
Thanks for the gibs also
Austin Hughes
THIS it's the strategy police and gendarmerie forces have here. CRS, the anti riot police, dispatch units from province to fight in Paris, from Lyon to fight in Marseille, etc. Never a unit from a city / region will see action in this area, they'll be dispatched elsewhere.
Sebastian Richardson
in theory he's not wrong
but basically only japan is allowed to get away with that
Kayden Ross
What you're describing there would also work, but deliberate currency devaluation is what China was doing which caused the international community to freak out. Germany is achieving the same benefits in a legitimate way. It's ingenious really, but definitely insidious.
Robert Williams
I wouldn't allow the same people who allowed all these refugees in, and are partly to blame for the deaths of innocent civilians, to create an army and use my country as a toy. Those people have an ultimate goal, and it doesn't sound good.
Also isn't it traitorous to do this, what sane country would allow they be controlled by a few unelected low IQ power/money hungry EU bureaucrats?
Logan Butler
A French Ahmed, Billy Bob.
Nathaniel Thompson
Yeah right, Germany pushes the EU and euro but it's just (((coincidence))) that you guys are the only ones benefiting for it. Extra euro trade for Germany only improved because it forced other members to use the euro which raised costs abroad.
Juan Stewart
Japan isn't getting away with it. When they tried their growth stopped.