Japan need 200,000 immigrants per year

How can you say that Japan does not need immigrants?

If you know Japanese economy, it clearly needs immigrants

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I'll immigrate ;)

thank you.

Your cultural enrichment strengthen us!

>Be Korean
>Move to Japan
>Realize everything here is better
>Get angry
>Look up some shit jews say
>Shitpost on Sup Forums
>Hope that it will make me not a Korean dog
>Go to pachinko parlor and whore house
>Continue to be a leech on society
>Go home
>Make my daily refugees thread
>Go to bed praying to wake up to a dead Japan or at least not be Korean
>Wake up
>Still an angry little Korean in a better country than my own
Why don't you just leave?

Does Japan WANT immigrants?

Fucking take ours then

Your language, especially in written, form is a total abomination

No serious immigrant (that isn't some davido weeaboo english teacher) wants to learn that shit, only to get worked 60 hours a week, go home to their shoebox apartment in Tokyo, and have a grand total of 1 hours of free time a week

hahaha

Do you think me korean?

I will say what koreans will never say

South and North korea should open its border towards refugees. They DID take ZERO refugees.

If they want to be first world country, they should accept at least 1,000,000 syrian refugees.
by the way, I hate east asian nations. They are raicsts closed mind morons

I'll also solve your birthing problem too ;)

There's a 99% chance you aren't Japanese. If you are Japanese, then you're probably that self-hating faggot Yuuta (or whatever his name is).

How about you actually write something in Japanese and post a Japanese birth certificate with your name and address blurred out?

thanks. racial diversity is required in Japan.

Don't forget to visit korea and china

long-running troll

everyone above the line with sincere posts have been trolled
________________________________________

>tfw a libtard english teacher posts posing as a nip

I would love to if I didn't have to learn your bullshit language. I'm a fucking weeaboo for god's sake and I still won't learn that shit.

Why do I have to show my private information?

If you are real Japanese, you know it's what most of Japanese don't do on internet

Japan is good as it is. Love them. Hate us. Immigrants would just destroy their land, tradition and people.

You're the kind of lazy faggot who spends 4 years complaining about subs on Sup Forums instead of actually just learning moon.

>Why do I have to show my private information?
I explicitly told you to blur out private info.
それより、日本人ならば日本語ができるのは当たり前だろ。自分の経済についての意見を聞かせてください

really?

Germany economy boosted after accepting immigrants and refugees

>Don't forget to visit korea and china

No, we should nuke them, nothing good comes out of those countries.

経済についての意見ってかなりおおざっぱだけど、なぜ日本経済に移民が必要か?って話?

Can I have gibs for going across?

その話だ。具体的に述べて・

でもその前に例の写真をまだ待っている。それを見せないと話が進まない。

Retards. All immigration fags are retards and have no fucking idea about anything.
MUH IMMIGRATION results in
more expensive property, higher rent
lower wages
higher population density (and the ill-making effects of this)
destruction of even more nature reserve

A decreasing populations results in:
less expensive property, low rent
higher wages
lower population density (and the healthy effects which come with it)
more and regenerated nature reserve

>それより、日本人ならば日本語ができるのは当たり前だろ。自分の経済についての意見を聞かせてください

>tfw this zapanese

there are no actual Japanese on Sup Forums...

Yeah no, fuck that. Japan still has a culture, keep it like that and don't fuck it up. Doumo Arigato.

>need
I wonder (((who))) would make such a claim.

>there are no actual Japanese on Sup Forums...
No fucking shit. Why else would I explicitly call him out on something he can't produce?

Don't think of the numbers. Of course economy boosts if you take more people in. This is a no-brainer.
More people = more workforce = more money spenders and getters.
But security gets demolished. There's cultural differences that always ends in conflict, socially it gets more awkward. Other cultures try to rape your traditions and culture and push theirs onto you. And you will lose control of your land over time. You can always see, that if somehow the ethnic groups gets too big, they want to divide your land and get their own. (Kurds, Kosovo, Ukraine....)

他の奴も既に言及してるけど、お前の日本語って明らかにネイティブじゃないだろw
そんな奴が写真がどうのってw ブーメランかよw

>tfw it's the easiest shit to learn
I'm glad I'm not retarded, Japanese is much more simpler than English. I learnt it in just 2 years.

>You're overpopulated! Stop breeding!
>You don't have enough work force! Accept refugees!
I'd like to imagine the whole world would be 50 years ahead in science and prosperity without """them""" fucking over everything.

I agree.

Anyone can read Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics and work this out.

Japan has two decade low unemployment. More workers are needed.

>be japan
>enter ww2
>lose to usa
>usa now subverts culture, economy, family
>japs birth decline
>WE NEED IMMIGRATION

the satanic gangsters that run the underworld HATE homogeneity and beauty.

youtu.be/FAU6ZjovmT8?t=1884

You're both English teachers but at least the other guy has respect for the country he's in.

私は皆あなたが放射線中毒で死ぬことを願っています

俺は一度も日本人だと言っていないけど。

さぁ、証拠を見せろ

Nah, grad student who was in the last Japan thread that just got deleted.

Because immigrants are a band-aid solution to the problem that merely delays the inevitable for a another decade or so, while causing a bunch more problems. Japan will find another solution to this problem and ultimately be better off for it.

>tfw OP has best Japanese skill

this made me mad

Japan doesnt need immigrants but do people even want to immigrate to Japan?

Do you need skilled workers or labour workers? Why not just take in Koreans/Chinese?

It's another "US Military roleplaying as Native Japanese" Thread.

I'm not really worried about it. I've been here less than a year, and there are a few gooks and chinks I know who were either born here or who've been here most of their adult lives. If a white guy can get better than them at Japanese that quickly, there's a problem.

なぜ移民が必要なのかって言うと
日本の失われた20年と言われている経済不況には二つの理由があって、一つは、総需要不足。
これはしばしばメディアとかで取り上げられてて明らかにされてるし周知されてるから再度言及する必要性もない。内需の縮小は経済にとって好ましくない。移民を受け入れる事で内需の拡大に繋がる。
あまり言及されていないもう一つの問題は、潜在GDP成長率がとてつもなく鈍化してる点にある。日本のほとんどのセクターで、一人当たりの生産性は伸びていないし、イノベーションも起きていない。じゃあ、なぜかと言えばIT化やグローバル化が遅れてるから。実際、新しい技術や思想を導入していない産業、例えばサービス業とか建設業界は競争率が低くて、クソみたいなゾンビ企業が生き残ってる状態なのね。
じゃあ、どうすればいいのかというと、移民を受け入れて、そうした企業に新しい思想やイノベーションを受け入れるようにインセンティブを持たせる事が重要なの。これは既存の企業だけを利するわけではなく、ベンチャーのような企業にも非常に役に立つ政策になりうる。
新しい企業がどんどん移民を雇用して競争力のない産業を市場から淘汰する事が必要だからね。

他にもいろいろ理由はあるけど字数の関係上こここまで

Japan doesn't need racial divercity.

It needs real men.

Maybe get a few immigrants to train your men into being men instead of inviting them to fuck your women.

#FAKENEWS

Nah that doesn't make for good salarymen.

No, I spend my time learning useful things instead of shitty moonman languages.

it's no problem if white men had better Japanese skill.

the proplem is,this OP was fucking native Japanese...or hafu.
I wish he was a gaijin.

The true problem is, people like you. racist.

You seem to have forgotten to mention things like quality of life and how the idea of unlimited growth is retarded, that taking unspecialized labor and untalented workers puts a burden on the social welfare system, or that the current old people generation is actually the biggest problem in Japan. You also forgot to post the picture I asked for proving you're actually Japanese.

>it's no problem if white men had better Japanese skill.
That's about as silly as thinking a SEA would speak better English than I do.

>the proplem is,this OP was fucking native Japanese...or hafu.
Nah, he's probably Korean or Chinese. I've yet to meet a single ethnic Japanese person as amazingly stupid as he is. There's only a few that I know even exist, and those are youtube faggots.

自殺したほうがいい、パンピー。
移民は必要ねぇだろ。

Nah,ima realist.

If you were a realist you would realize that white people would only make your country better, but you'll only ever get weebs and dropouts from white nations, because the normal ones are happy where they are.

then get immigrants its up to you to select the quality of the people you let in your country if you are not retarted there shouldnt be a problem like in europe

Japan doesn't need immigrants.

Immigration is fucking stupid to begin with. Populations wax and wane all the time, it's how property and opportunity shifts from the old generation to the new ones.

okay, why don't you respond to my post by Japanese? I am familier with Japanese than English. If you seriously want to discuss things with me. I reccomend you to post in Japanese.

anyway,

生活の質も移民の受け入れによって向上しうる。移民を受け入れる事によって、元から住んでいてた日本人の実質賃金と実質所得が上昇する可能性が高い。
というのも既存のサービス業なんかは、生産性が低くて価格が高い。主な原因になっているのが、賃金の下方硬直性で、最近は、特に都市部で、労働力不足が深刻になっていて、これは移民の受け入れで解決しうる。
多くの人が勘違いしているのは、移民は、日本人労働者に対して完全代替性を有していない点で、移民にとっては、母国での所得より多くを得る事ができるし、日本人居住者にとっては生活の質が上がってWIN-WIN
もし、1万円で受け取れるサービスの量が増大すれば、効用も増大し、人々の生活の質も上がる。そうでしょ?

ここでいったん区切る

Exactly. If you are wondering who is spreading this "JAPAN IS DYING OH NO BIRTHRATES" It's the globies.

その内容はほぼマスコミのコピペだけど、それは短期的な解決策にしかならない。
長期的には出生数を増やす以外の道は無いし、移民はその妨げになる。
左翼が移民を受け入れろと言っているのは、欧米同様先進国の人間が騙されにくくなっているため、
力で(人数で)言う事を聞かせようとしているからだ。
マスコミの経済学者はみんな左翼だからデタラメしか言わないし、反論されないように議論の場には出てこない。
グローバル化というのはほぼそのまま共産主義であってイノベーションとは対極にある。

If I'm going to be honest I'd love to move to Japan, and I wish they were more open about immigration, but I respect their right to be Japan and not some other country. They should keep their culture and their own people. If one of them wants to mix cultures, they should move away themselves. All globalization does is create huge ghettos of "diversity" and warring factions that simply live too close to each other.

無制限の成長が馬鹿げてるって言ってるけど、そんな事はないし、経済成長しない国がどうなるか、よく理解してもいないでしょ?
20世紀初頭に、先進国並みの所得を誇っていたアルゼンチンが今どうなってるか知ってる?中所得国に転落したよ?

経済成長はアイディアや技術によって引き起こされるもので、これはソローの成長論とか内生的成長論と呼ばれるものなんだけど、このモデルに従えば、(人がより物事を改良しようとしたり、新しい発想を生み出す限り)経済成長はほぼ永続的に起こりえる。

経済的に豊かである国の方が豊かでない国よりも幸せになりうる、少なくとも食糧や衛生環境が悪くて死ぬような不幸な出来事が起こる事を予防してくれる役割を果たしていて、その市場メカニズムをいかにうまく機能させるかが問題。
そして、そのメカニズムのエンジンとなりえるのが、移民なわけ。

Nope.

Great, a moonspeak thread.

I am already learning the language and hope to soon move there get a qt 3.14 nip gf and live a comfy and safe life in glorious japan

t. Kurasawastein

>マスコミの経済学者は左翼
へー、アメリカの経済学者の中にもリベラルな人はいたと思うんですけど、シカゴ学派のような保守派もいますよね? そういった人々が移民政策を支持しているって知ってますか?

”長期的に出生率を増やす為”の移民の受け入れなんですけど、そこを理解してますか?
このまま、少子高齢化が進めば、税は増えるのに所得は増えない。つまり期待恒常可処分所得が減少していく事になる。
そうすると、夫婦が家族計画を考える際に、よくて二人ぐらいしか産まない事につながる。

イノベーションは、より効率的な財やサービスを示す言葉であって、グローバル化は、一物一価に繋がる政策(つまり、最適生産水準が分業及び比較優位の原則に基づいて行われる事を示す)
そして、これは市場プロセスの中で起こる事で、共産主義とは全くの正反対なんですけど、そこを理解してますか?

>If you seriously want to discuss things with me
I seriously want you to prove that you're Japanese and not a chink or a gook.


>、アメリカの経済学者の中にもリベラルな人はいたと思うんですけど
Jesus fucking Christ, stop embarassing yourself. (((American economists'))) opinions aren't worth shit when all of their names start with Gold or end with berg or stein.

plese let me in ! onegaishimasu

>racial diversity is required in Japan.
>racial diversity is required
i wonder who is behind this japanese proxy

横だけど、どうやってこのOPが日本人だって証明するの?
パスポートは証明にならないでしょ?

no! nippon is sacred and must resist western degeneracy at the point of the sword, if need be.

Don't worry. I trust Milton Friedman.
He is based Jewish economist who oppose to liberalism.

知ってますかって左翼はいつも知識で議論しようとする。たまには理屈を重視してもらいたいものだ。
出生率を増やす事が移民受け入れの目的だなんて話は聞いた事が無いな。
それはそういう副作用もあるかもしれないというだけの話で、目的がそこから始まったものではないだろう。
所得が増えないのは左翼が長年推し進めてきた新自由主義の影響であって、移民によって解決しようとすればいびつな構造になる。
当然分かっているとは思うが、政府がやっている男女共同参画も少子化を加速させるためのものだ。
グローバル化についても過渡期の現象しか見ていないようだけど、これはボーダーレス化による平坦な世界を目指すもので、行き着く先は共産主義と同じだ。

それからいつもここで工作しているようだけど、何が目的でやっているのかな?
移民政策は大多数の日本人が支持していないし、日本人を代表するかの様な言動には強く抗議する。

今日はお薬を飲み忘れちゃったのかな?

Birth certificate with a Japanese last name.

>based Jewish economist

I highly doubt there's any room left on that island. Go to China instead.

Watashi no kokoro wa doki doki shiteiru!

How about other asian countries immigrants, like Thai, Cambodian, Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Russian, Vietnamese, or any other non muslim country?

You are the host, you have the right to choose the best of the best.

困ると煽りとレッテル貼りで印象操作か論点逸らし。左翼と議論して最後まで続いた試しがない。
まともに反論できないのに工作しているのが情けない。

fuck you japan becouse of you the western countries are filled with neet beta males that are too pussy to have an actual job. becouse of your anime and manga and shitty culture the west is doomed to bend over and take a dildo kun into the ass

no it does not, tokyo is crowded with peoples.

It's not hard. Just drill kana in anki and use RTKana, use wanikani for kanji, and read context for at least 2-3 hours a day on lingq. Then start reading VNs with a text hook and in 2 years you'll be fluent.

おう、そうだな。
まずは、政治経済における左翼の位置づけがおかしい事に気付こうか。
なぜ、議論が最後まで続いた試しがないのは、君の知識のレベルが低くて間違って結論が導かれてるからだよ。
例えば、新自由主義って言葉を大した定義も無しに使ってるよね?
少なくとも、話題になってるのは経済になっている事で、その文脈なら”新古典派”と述べた方が正しい。
議論がかみ合わないのは、知識の水準が違うから。
演繹法にしても帰納法にしても現実に扱っている”事実”を重視しなければ、そこからあなたがいうような””理屈””を駆使しても誤った帰結に陥るだけだよ。
ちなみに、自分でレッテル張りがどうのこうの言っておいて、左翼だとか他人をレッテル張りしている”理屈”についてはどのような”論点”で説明するのかな?

How about you have some fucking pride in your own people so you don't end up like Europe and what almost happened to us?

間違っていると言うのであれば簡単に指摘できる事項であって、煽りで対応すると言うのは不正をしようとする意思を示しているだけだ。
どの部分が間違っているのか知識のある側が指摘できず、無関係な話に誘導するのはおかしいだろう。
そもそも左翼の言う経済学の知識と言うのは間違いだらけで話が出来ないから、論理で話さなければ通じないんだよ。

もっともこちらは何故ここでこんな工作を続けているのかが聞きたいだけなんだが。
archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/Japan immigrants/country/jp/type/op/

Immigration would be okay if it was whites.
But it won't be if we change the law.
If whites come it is okay, especially from Europe.

Don't do it lad we need you for the race war

Why dont you nips get fucking rather than relying on other races to reproduce with your people? What kind of a loose screw are you? Fucking degenerate

its just jewish propaganda, either that or they've activly btfo'ing your economy in some jewy way trying to culturally enrich you

all things considered, it's far more likely to be a weeaboo expat or a marine

Most halfs looks really ugly though

Slide thread

ky op.

ok
let me come and we can make Japan lagom

反応が無いようだけど、これだけSup Forumsを挑発しておいて自分はちょっと反論されたら逃げましたで終わりにするつもりなのかな?
日本が移民を受け入れる理由なんて推進派の屁理屈の中にしかないんだよ。
反論できないのは相手のせいだって責任転嫁も甚だしいとは思わないか?
ここで何をしている人なのかな?団体に属している人間か?

>How can you say that Japan does not need immigrants?
Because they fucking RUIN YOUR COUNTRY!!!!

Shitskins and sandniggers all over my country and I have nothing but rapes to show for while my tax money is lost to welfare to these assholes.

So while in some of the 100+ bases you can work extra as a shill?
Doesn't it makes you feel dirty to ruin the country you are there to protect?
Or are you an English Teacher just there leeching?

Goddamn, somebody stop this cuckold already.

How about no? You people are especially racist, not that there is ANYTHING wrong with that, but trying to introduce 'diversity' into a highly xenophobic society will only cause suffering.

Stick to your fucking own and start having babies, stop trying to encourage broken half-breeds that will have to endure racism from both sides.

OP is Korean. He told me on Kakao.

Fuck off faggot

Last week they said they were doing fine. WTF.