Were the Nazis actually right-wing?

Were the Nazis actually right-wing?

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They were socialists.

Yes.

No, they were centrist.

They were deluded idiots. Just like you.

authoritarian centre-left

"right wing" and "left wing" are poorly defined, merely categories for those that like categories rather than wanting to understand the political proposals that underlie broad affiliations.

Communists.

National Socialists, yes. News anyone?

Communists take from the poor
National Socialists give to the poor

They were authoritarian centrists

Both left and right.

The socialism part of the natsoc guys is a bit of a puzzle to me though, its one section that I never really got into. I have seen some of the more esoteric lore, the black sun, the mythical origins of the whites.

But still...the socialism....I think that perhaps, though I am not sure, i think that the socialism of hitler wasnt anything like the leftist socialism of today.

I think that the jews stole his socialism.

Like the jews stole everything because they cannot invent anything.

You see, its pretty important to know whether or not hitlers socialism was the "grabber" kind. But I dont believe it was, I believe it was the pro social community building type? Where the rights of the whites were not infringed upon, neither the gun rights, nor the property rights?

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wow... rly makes you think, huh?

Have you considered Suicide?

kek, and I was right. The libertarians can exist within right wing socialism?

No. Neither are most people here.

- price fixing
- wage controls
- large scale keynesian state spending
- emphasis on large welfare state

clearly, strongholds of the right wing

This is what Wikipedia says:

>The party emerged from the German nationalist, racist and populist Freikorps paramilitary culture, which fought against the communist uprisings in post-World War I Germany. The party was created as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism. Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, although such aspects were later downplayed in order to gain the support of industrial entities, and in the 1930s the party's focus shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes.

So was the "socialist" part of National Socialism just a ruse?

Salut

No Nazis were actually SJW liberals, do you not watch Sargon of Akkad?

No, they were pretty center.
Socialism isn't right wing, nor is it very left wing.

>So was the "socialist" part of National Socialism just a ruse?

not really, no.

if you look into the details, you'll find that although private enterprise cooperated with hitler, the vast majority of profits were "re-invested" into the german war machine.

those who refused had their assets confiscated.

>he learns about history by watching youtubers
Stupid millenial.

>he can't detect sarcasm
Time for that autism test pham

Pretty centre. Right-leaning on some issues, Left-leaning in others. They were just very Authoritarian, which is often mistaken by normies (or people who just don't know shit about politics) as being exclusively bundled with the right. That, and as propaganda against right-leaning sentiments.

The clue's in the name; National Socialism. (Nationalism being a typically right-ish ideology, and Socialism a left-ish one.)

Don't forget those amazing state work programs

absolutely not.

they were revolutionary and obsessed with the creation of a new man and a new order, textbook leftim

That's kinda accurate.

They were social justice warriors in the purest sense.

>Nationalism being a typically right-ish ideology

not true, e.g. the nationalist uprisings of 1848 were left-wing/liberal and crushed by the reactionairy right-wing.

The Third Position.

Yes, but to a autistic extent.
They didn't actually care about the white race, they only cared about Germans and Germany.

Hitler himself was very right-wing but other Nazis (especially Goebbels) were far-left. The ideology itself seems to swing in either direction depending on whose at the reins.

No. They were corrupt as fuck, pushed degenerate practices and ended up serving Jewish interests.

I said "Typically", not "exclusively", Deutschfam.

>collectivism
>regulating left and right
>going against tradition every time they could
There is a reason why, after the anti-nazi purges of 1945-1947, the likes of Erhard, Röpke and of course Adenauer became the driving force of Germany.

I recommend reading The Vampire Economy. Written before the war so there is little demonization of the nazis, the writer even praises the skills of the administration at some point. Just the painful business life in the third reich because socialism.
>mises.org/system/tdf/The Vampire Economy.pdf?file=1&type=document
As Mises described it, the German way of socialism is different from the purely bureaucratic one used in Russia. Technically Roman law was never abolished. You had property. But every single action was submitted to 6 gorillonz extremely constraining regulations. The open goal of the nazi administration was to "guide" people into doing what the administration wanted them to do without outright confiscation.

It's simple.

Marxist Soc
>take from rich give to the poor

Nat Soc
>Germans, help yourselves. Rich, poor all must give. How much one would ask? That's the glory of giving, knowing that you helped your brethren

By the way, this wikipedia entry is, as expected, rather awful in its implications.
USSR leaders and other socialist countries have always "cooperated" with a few big businesses. At most the previous owners got nice bureaucratic titles like in China. Many industrialists welcome these revolutions because it destroyed any chance for competition while they were integrated in the party intelligentsia.
The fracture is one of free market versus interventionist state, it has little to do with a few businessmen. In fact you'll some very rich businessmen shilling for overregulation for this very reason.

Isn't the current French left wing quite nationalistic.

no

they were patriotic socialists and not globalist socialists

IT is not in the case of Germany though.
Besides it is not typically right wing either.
In Vietnam, Cambodia, Algeria, Laos, India, several South American countries, ... it was the socialist factions that were nationalist. Even in France nationalism has always been across aisles, if not more left wing, going against the emperors and kings and the bourgeoisie.

In fact, it is almost a specificity of Anglo countries to link nationalism to the right wing.

>I said "Typically", not "exclusively", Deutschfam.

that's why I objected. It is not typically right-wing and never has been. Calling it like that is slander and propaganda of today's Merkelists and pro EU kneebenders.

>Isn't the current French left wing quite nationalistic.

The current French nationalists are left-wing, see FN, Le Pen.

:D

the left-right dichotomy is stupid because there is not a single right wing party currently existing in any civilized country

they were totalitarians. that is far left.

far right are anarchists.

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Commies call the Nazis right-wing for exterminating millions of commies; but in reality it was just two types of socialists fighting each-other.

>the left-right dichotomy is stupid because there is not a single right wing party currently existing in any civilized country

that's a definition we can agree on. The current "liberal" elites are the new reactionaires trying to preent a nationalist or even democratic movement to take off.

No, socialists are left wing.
So they were Alt-Left

POO IN LOO

Lies

Nazi Germany had a pretty cushy welfare state. It was literally better than living in that USSR shithole.

It was like a Nordic country; except no Jewish bankers influencing the market, and all the welfare went to native whites, not sandniggers.

They were genetic nationalists. Everything they did was an attempt to increase the size and power of the German people. It's not really about right or left, conservative or liberal, totalitarian or anarchist, capitalist or socialist. It's about developing strategies that get results for the people of the nation. In their opinion, it was totalitarian mixed market cultural conservatism.

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