I see a lot of people speaking since long back about Holocaust being fake. I have no opinion or a point to mention. It would be utter pleasure if you Sup Forums would be so kind as to share your knowledge and data about the subject. Why was it faked? They showed us some gore images a good seven years ago in school. What about the hype of Hitler being bad? Why so much hate for him ? I think, Hitler was good. Did they even find his corpse?
Regarding the fake Holocaust
Isaac Smith
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Jose White
>Nazis didn't deny it
>time passes
>"this makes Nazis look bad"
>Neo-Nazis deny it
really makes you think
Matthew Jones
>Dissent spewing soviet citizens don't deny their crimes
>Gulag
>time passes
>hey these soviets probably forced confessions
Really ponders the noggin dun'it m80
Justin Sanders
Did really those many Jews were massacred?
Zachary Lewis
The biggest objection to holocaust denial is that goering admitted to the killings during the Nuremberg trials
Anthony Ward
Except the big fish Nazis were in American custody, try again
Austin Perez
Israel was created to give Jews a safe place to live. Before the war, zionists were having a problem getting people interested in zionism. The Jews were quite happy where they were running banks and media and communist parties. Holocausts are good motivation to encourage Jews to move to Israel. Theodore Herzl, the founder of zionism, talked about this exact thing.
Connor Ross
>Nazis didn't deny it
Literally all of the Nazis denied it, from Goering down.
>21 March 46
>Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: The Fuehrer, at any rate, must have had full knowledge of what was happening with regard to concentration camps, the treatment of the Jews, and the treatment of the workers, must he not?
>GOERING: I already mentioned it as my opinion that the Fuehrer did not know about details in concentration camps, about atrocities as described here. As far as I know him, I do not believe he was informed. But insofar as he...
>Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: I am not asking about details; I am asking about the murder of four or five million people. Are you suggesting that nobody in power in Germany, except Himmler and perhaps Kaltenbrunner, knew about that?
>GOERING: I am still of the opinion that the Fuehrer did not know about these figures.
>Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: You heard what I read to you about Hitler, what he said to Horthy and what Ribbentrop said, that the Jews must be exterminated or taken to concentration camps. Hitler said the Jews must either work or be shot. That was in April 1943. Do you still say that neither Hitler nor you knew of this policy to exterminate the Jews?
>GOERING: For the correctness of the document.
>Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: Will you please answer my question. Do you still say neither Hitler nor you knew of the policy to exterminate the Jews?
>GOERING: As far as Hitler is concerned, I have said I do not think so. As far as I am concerned, I have said that I did not know, even approximately, to what extent these things were taking place.
>Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: You did not know to what degree, but you knew there was a policy that aimed at the extermination of the Jews?
>GOERING: No, a policy of emigration, not liquidation of the Jews. I knew only that there had been isolated cases of such perpetrations.
>Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: Thank you.
Lincoln Hughes
Eichmann, Goeth, the Einsatzgruppen commanders; every single one pleaded Not Guilty at trial.
>For the correctness of the document.
>GOERING: No, that is in no way correctly translated.
>Mr Justice Jackson: Give us your translation of it?
>GOERING: May I read it as it is written here?
>"Complementing the task which was conferred upon you already on 24 January 1939, to solve the Jewish problem by means of emigration and evacuation in the best possible way according to present conditions, I charge you herewith to make all necessary preparations as regards organizational, factual, and material matters..." - now comes the decisive word which has been mistranslated: "for a total solution," not "for a final solution..." - "for a total solution of the Jewish question within the area of German influence in Europe. Should these come within the competence of other governmental departments, then such departments are to co-operate. I charge you further to submit to me as soon as possible a general plan showing the organizational and material measures for reaching the desired total solution of the Jewish question... Complementing the task assigned to you on 24 January 1939..." That was at a time when there was no war or prospect of a war.
James Flores
Are you guys fucking dumb? Have you even been to Auschwitz or any of the other concentration camps?
I saw the showers, the piles of civilian clothing & shoes.
There's pictures of the mass graves too taken by the allies after liberation
Ian Morgan
You'll always have Hoess though. Only one problem. Reading Hoess's testimony, for example, is what turned me from a guy trying to refute deniers into a denier myself. And I'm not even a neonazi, sorry.
How does
X + 2m;
X + 4m;
and X + 1.5m
all equal 6m at the same time?
Rudolf Hoess: Commandant of Auschwitz:
>"I was treated terribly by the [British] Field Security Police. I was dragged to Heide and, of all places, to the same military barracks from which I had been released eight months before by the British. During the first interrogation they beat me to obtain evidence. I do not know what was in the transcript, or what I said, even though I signed it, because they gave me liquor and beat me with a whip. It was too much even for me to bear."
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Captain Bernard Clarke (interviewed by Rupert Butler):
>"The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: 'Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.'"
amazon.co.uk
>Hellstorm (1:09:02)
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Nolan Bailey
Can someone redpill me on hitler faking his suicide?
Michael Campbell
lol.
you saw showers that scientifically wont do what you claim. You have to evacuate gas from a chamber you fucking kike faggot. Don't worry, we will make the holocaust real (not technically again though...), and you'll be a part of it.
Chase Lee
>Have you even been to Auschwitz or any of the other concentration camps?
Yes. I have.
>I saw the showers, the piles of civilian clothing & shoes.
Prisons...have showers. Do you see in all the pictures from Auschwitz how they're all wearing those striped uniforms? Yeah? That's why there were piles of clothing and shoes.
>There's pictures of the mass graves too taken by the allies after liberation
Post one please so we can all see.
Austin Davis
Basic English is enough, all the fiction is right there in black & white.
Look at anagrams of Hitler..
'Allied Forth' 'Father Do Ill' 'Heil Old fart' 'Hotel If(of) Lard'
There's a lot more where they came from, so... His parents either had humour that spanned decades into the future or?
Kevin King
You saw something, then you were told what you saw meant something else, and you uncritically believe it because you had no idea where fact and fiction part.
There were camps, there were showers, there was Zyklon B for delousing, there was starvation and disease. What is fake is the kitsch, inconsistent and nonsensical testimonies about being gassed 6 times and surviving while everybody else turned black/blue/purple and died, let alone the utter nonsense like the eagle and bear eating a Jew a day, or masturbation machines (we're losing the war but let's take some time to manufacture some sex machines to torture children because we're sooo evil), or corpses of men thrown in the oven because the women weren't burning so well.
Gavin Sanders
Yes, an Austrian couple in 1889 spent some time figuring out a name for their son so that his full name's anagram in a foreign language would spell something as priceless and hilarious as "Hotel If Lard"
Michael Bennett
>Literally all of the Nazis denied it
No, the nazis either claimed ignorance or invoked fuhrerprinzip. Literally no nazi who witnessed it denied holocaust happened.
Daniel Moore
Fake? No, not fake. Overstated though, and distorted to hide the true players. Then used by globalists to discourage nationalism.
Did you know that the order to begin the Holocaust didn't come from Hitler? Hitler was lied to, he wanted to use Jews for labor camps to help the war effort. Look into Arab involvement with the SS.
There were death camps, but as many an user has pointed out here, they couldn't support the 6 gorillion that are claimed to have died. Look up some more conservative estimates of the death toll and think about it a bit.
The death camps existed but were far outnumbered by labor camps. Isn't it interesting how the death camps are turned into veritable pilgrimage destinations but the labor camps are ignored?
Look into countries that weren't invaded by the Nazis like Sweden. Funny how they are lauded for being the defender of the Jews, isn't it? They cut a deal with the devil to turn people over and helped the Nazis in other ways as well.
The Holocaust happened, but the scale, the way it occurred, and the players involved have been distorted so that various groups could use it to their advantage. History is a lot more interesting than they make it out to be.
Asher Wright
How does
X + 2,000,000
and X + 78,000
both equal 6,000,000 at the same time?
>The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth
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Ian James
The blunt of the Holocaust was taken by Poland who had one of the biggest jewish population of the world, around 3,000,000, which can be verified on the Polish census.
en.wikipedia.org
>Judaism: 3,113,933
Now, if we look at the 1960 census, could not find the 1950 in english, we see a dramatic reduction of jews.
books.google.com.co
>30,000 jews
Where did more than 3,000,000 jews went?
I checked on the U.S. census for information about immigration but the increase is not really that much.
>1926
>Jewish congregations: 4,081, 242
www2.census.gov
>1950
>Jewish congregations: 4,641,000
www2.census.gov
Argentina census doesn't reveal much in that aspect.
deie.mendoza.gov.ar
>1895: 6,085
>1947: 240, 330
And the israeli census since 1948 doesn't show a huge increase in numbers, more like a gradual increase taking into account the expelling of jews from arab countries.
cbs.gov.il
>1948: 671,00
>1960: 1,862,600
Jacob Allen
Modern civilian crematoriums attempt to fully calcinate bone tissue for the aesthetics. Nazis didn't give a fuck about that. Modern civilian crematoriums attempt to fully separate the remains of different people. Nazis didn't give a fuck about that. Modern civilian crematoriums will only ever cremate one body at a time. Nazis don't give a fuck about that.
So you say the Nazi ovens weren't large enough to cremate more than one corpse at a time? The inner dimensions of the muffle were reportedly 70 cm wide and 80 cm high at the maximum (the top formed an arch), the size of the opening was 60 cm wide and high at the maximum (ATCFS, p. 377). Two average adults would have certainly fit on top of each other on the stretcher through the opening, also if two dehydrated, shrunken and somewhat displaced corpses were already in the inside. You could fit more if you include small, emaciated adults, and children.
Most of the burning of body material occurs within the first 20-30 minutes of cremation. It is possible to even add a new corpse after 20-30 minutes without removing the remaining body material of the previous corpse if you truly want to be efficient.
If you really think that the Holocaust, for which no Nazi offered denial when on trial and facing execution, is disproven by some back of the napkin arithmetic, and you really care about this issue, then take the precious time out of your life and read this:
phdn.org
David Bell
>Literally no nazi who witnessed it denied holocaust happened.
>The Auschwitz Mythos by Wilhelm Staeglich
www.codoh.com/library/document/230/?lang=en
Luke Reyes
Where did all the Jews in Israel and America come from? Where are the mass graves?
Isaac Turner
>Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!
Speech by Adolf Hitler, January 31, 1939.
>And we say that the war will not end as the Jews imagine it will, namely with the uprooting of the Aryans, but the result of this war will be the complete annihilation of the Jews.
Adolph Hitler speaking to a crowd at the Sports Palace in Berlin, 30 January 1942.
>Nature is cruel; therefore we are also entitled to be cruel. When I send the flower of German youth into the steel hail of the next war without feeling the slightest regret over the precious German blood that is being spilled, should I not also have the right to eliminate millions of an inferior race that multiplies like vermin?
>Adolf Hitler, quoted in "Hitler," by Joachim Fest, Vintage Books Edition, 1974, p. 679-680:
Jack Martinez
>Literally no nazi who witnessed it denied holocaust happened.
Jaxson Wright
>a old fart decided to start denying it 30-40 years later
>this is the better deniers have
You do know we have such registries? Most of the american jews came from imperial Russia in late 19th century, and most of the israeli jews are the arab jews.
I showed you census information, and you choose to ignore it
Ryan Harris
most germans are proud of holocaust. they say it didnt happen tho, because they are wicked.
Adam Perry
>I mean the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish race. It's one of those things it is easy to talk about, "the Jewish race is being exterminated", says one party member, "that's quite clear, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, and we're doing it, exterminating them". And then they come, 80 million worthy Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. Of course the others are vermin, but this one is an A-1 Jew. Not one of those who talk this way has watched it, not one of them has gone through it. Most of you know what it means when 100 corpses are lying side by side, or 500, or 1,000. To have stuck it out and at the same time - apart from exceptions caused by human weakness - to have remained decent fellows, that is what has made us hard. This is a page of glory in our history which has never been written and is never to be written.
>I ask of you that what I say in this circle you really only hear and never speak of. We come to the question: how is it with the women and the children? I have resolved even here on a completely clear solution. That is to say I do not consider myself justified in eradicating the men - so to speak killing or ordering them killed - and allowing the avengers in the shape of the children to grow up for our sons and grandsons. The difficult decision has to be taken, to cause this Volk [people] to disappear from the earth.
Speeches by Reichsfuehrer-SS Himmler before senior SS officers in Poznan, October 4 and 6, 1943.
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>We have - I would say, as very consistent National Socialists, taken the question of blood as our starting point. We were the first really to solve the problem of blood by action, and in this connection, by problem of blood, we of course do not mean antisemitism. Antisemitism is exactly the same as delousing. Getting rid of lice is not a question of ideology. It is a matter of cleanliness.
Speech by Reichsfuehrer-SS Himmler at Kharkow, April 1943.
Isaac Hill
>Literally no nazi who witnessed it denied holocaust happened.
>Otto-Ernst Remer Sentenced to 22 Months Imprisonment for Revisionist Publications
www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/13/2/Weber29.html
Zachary Evans
They did not witnessed the crimes.
this is a good option. Being proud of your actions, not being sneaky little rats (a very jewish thing tbqh) and denying your actions because it makes you look bad.
Dominic Gomez
>World Jewry will suffer a great catastrophe at the same time as Bolshevism. The F�hrer once more expressed his determination to clean up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must be no squeamish sentimentalism about it. The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now overtaken them. Their destruction will now go hand in hand with the destruction of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness.
The Goebbels [Reich Propaganda Minister] Diaries, February 14 1942.
>Beginning with Lublin, the Jews in the General Government [Nazi occupied Poland] are now being evacuated eastward. The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be described here more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the whole it can be said that about 60 percent of them will have to be liquidated whereas only 40 percent can be used for forced labor.
The Goebbels [Reich Propaganda Minister] diaries, March 27, 1942.
>In all these weeks, they [i.e., your families] will be thinking of you, saying to themselves: my God, there he sits in Poland where there are so many lice and Jews, perhaps he is hungry and cold, perhaps he is afraid to write. It would not be a bad idea to send our dear ones back home a picture, and tell them: well now, there are not so many lice and Jews any more, and conditions here in the General Government have changed and improved somewhat already. Of course, I could not eliminate all lice and Jews in only one year's time. But in the course of time, and above all, if you help me, this end will be attained. After all, it is not necessary for us to accomplish everything within a year and right away, for what would otherwise be left for those who follow us to do?
Speech by Hans Frank [Governor of occupied Poland], to German soldiers in Poland, urging them to write home.
Leo Price
>One way or another -- I will tell you quite openly -- we must finish off the Jews. The F�hrer put it into words once: should united Jewry again succeed in setting off a world war, then the blood sacrifice shall not be made only by the peoples driven into war, but then the Jew of Europe will have met his end....
>But what should be done with the Jews? Can you believe that they will be accommodated in settlements in the Ostland? In Berlin we were told: why are you making all this trouble? We don't want them either, not in Ostland nor in the Reichskommissariat; liquidate them yourselves! Gentlemen, I must ask you to steel yourselves against all considerations of compassion. We must destroy the Jews wherever we find them, and wherever it is at all possible, in order to maintain the whole structure of the Reich...
>The Jews represent for us also extraordinary malignant gluttons. We have now approximately 2,500,000 of them in the General Government [Nazi occupied Poland], perhaps with the Jewish mixtures and everything that goes with it, 3,500,000 Jews. We cannot shoot or poison those 3,500,000 Jews, but we shall nevertheless be able to take measures which will lead somehow to their annihilation, and this in connection with the gigantic measures to be determined in discussions with the Reich.
Speech by Hans Frank [Governor of occupied Poland], December 16 1941.
Angel Lopez
Op here. I am truly satisfied with your response. Most of my doubts have been cleared. I come to a decision over your replies that
>Holocaust took place, perhaps to some minor extent to remove Jews
>They were utilized somehow
>Hitler was a really great man
>Germany was great at the time
>Sorry for those who died
Christopher Allen
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Jonathan Torres
Gabriel Carter
>most of the israeli jews are the arab jews
In 1939, there were 1,000,000 Jews in the whole of Asia and Africa, never mind Israel. Today, there are still 500,000 Jews across Asia and Africa. Some moved to Israel. Where did the rest of the 7,000,000 Jews of Israel come from?
In 1939, there were 4.5 million Jews in America. Today, there are at least 7 million people who ticked the Jewish religion box in the last US census. Add on atheists and you have as many as 10 or even 12 million according to the Jewish Federation of North America (page 88).
jewishdatabank.org
Where did all these Jews come from?
Aaron Barnes
Reminder: assuming these quotes are genuine, the best evidence they have of government conspiracy is a single mistranslated, misinterpreted word. That's how poor the evidence for the holocaust is. It relies on ausrotten/vernichtung meaning kill. Does it though?
>The nationalization of our masses will succeed only when, aside from all the positive struggle for the soul of our people, their international poisoners are EXTERMINATED [AUSGEROTTUNG].
Did Hitler also believe that the Germans were about to be holocausted?
>Wenn die deutsche Nation den Zustand ihrer drohenden AUSROTTUNG in Europa beenden will. (Mein Kampf)
>if the German nation wishes to end the condition of its pending DESTRUCTION in Europe (Mein Kampf)
Or has this word been twisted out of context from its original meaning in translation?
>Wenn aber ein Männlicher nicht beschnitten wird an seiner Vorhaut, wird er AUSGEROTTET werden aus seinem Volk, weil er meinen Bund gebrochen hat. (Genesis 17:14, Luther Bible)
>And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be CUT OFF from his people; he hath broken my covenant. (Genesis 17:14)
Hitler himself used ausrotten figuratively on numerous occasions.
>Was aber besaß dieses Bündnis für einen Wert, wenn erst das Deutschtum der Habsburgmonarchie AUSGEROTTET worden wäre? (Mein Kampf)
>What kind of value did this alliance possess once the Germanism of the Habsburg Monarchy had been REMOVED?” (Mein Kampf)
>den Marxismus und seine Begleiterscheinungen aus Deutschland AUSZUROTTEN (Berlin Sportspalst speech)
>to ELIMINATE Marxism and its accompanying phenomena from Germany (Berlin Sportspalst speech)
It was a common, mundane word that he used in numerous contexts in Mein Kampf, but never in the sense of "extermination."
Christopher Scott
Dr Charles P Larson was the head of the forensic coroner group that investigated the concentration camps in Western Allied occupied zones. He described this experience in his book.
>Crime Doctor: Dr. Charles P. Larson, world's foremost medical-detective, reports from his crime file
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As part of the US War Crimes Investigation Team, Dr Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. He was later questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors.
In an interview with the Wichita Eagle, 1 April 1980, he called the holocaust a hoax.
>Larson has talked little publicly about the war experience. One reason for his silence has been that his autopsy findings conflicted with the widely held belief that most Jews in Nazi camps were exterminated by gassing, shooting or poisoning.
>"What we’ve heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax," Larson said...
>...most died as a result of the conditions to which they were subjected rather than mass exterminations...
>...autopsies showed that "death by gassing and shooting were rare. Never was a case of poisoning uncovered."
20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com
Gavin Garcia
>In 1939, there were 4.5 million Jews in America. Today, there are at least 7 million people who ticked the Jewish religion box in the last US census.
So it's a growth of +-50%
American population was 130 millions in 1939. Today it's 310 millions. It's a growth of more then 140%.
>In 1939, there were 1,000,000 Jews in the whole of Asia and Africa, never mind Israel. Today, there are still 500,000 Jews across Asia and Africa. Some moved to Israel. Where did the rest of the 7,000,000 Jews of Israel come from?
Three quarters, or 74.8%, of the population are Jews from a diversity of Jewish backgrounds. Approximately 76% of Israeli Jews are born in Israel, 16% are immigrants from Europe and the Americas, and 8% are immigrants from Asia and Africa (including the Arab world).[278] Jews from Europe and the former Soviet Union and their descendants born in Israel, including Ashkenazi Jews, constitute approximately 50% of Jewish Israelis. Jews who left or fled Arab and Muslim countries and their descendants, including both Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews,[279] form most of the rest of the Jewish population.
Kayden Williams
>ignores everything i wrote
>focus on the word aurottun
So how many german language experts agree with you?
>Did Hitler also believe that the Germans were about to be holocausted?
Yes. That was actually a big part of his plataform ("Defending the aryan race from the jewish menace").
>AUSGEROTTET
>AUSGEROTTET
>AUSZUROTTEN
All of this is not the same as ausrottung.
Again, find me german language experts who agree with you
Joseph Barnes
too busy searching youyr copy pastas?
you can't write arguments for yourself?
Sad!