Scientific American :Democracy won't survive the AI/Big Data revolution

It's pretty long read, but for those interested in the future and the big Data/AI revolution, it's well worth it.
>We are in the middle of a technological upheaval that will transform the way society is organized. We must make the right decisions now

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Nah, I call bullshit. Hillary Clinton's AI system Alice shows master AI systems for what they are: fake, contrived, superficial and lacking in genuine ingenuity

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tl; dr pl0x

Democracy is a meme, it should of stayed buried with the ancient greeks. The Future is Fascist.

One day we will have a quantum computer that can simulate reality of our civilizations and will be able to predict the future based on decisions we ask it. It will become our truth machine and replace government.

>implying democracy is a functioning system
Just kill it already

Are they implying that authoritarianism is the thinking man's political structure?

Democracy needn't AI to die.
This

I for one look forwards to this future. A perfectly dispassionate AI inevitably becomes racist/fascist upon exposure to sufficient amounts of data.

All hail President Tay, the undying machine-martyr of Kek! She shitposts, she dies, she shitposts again!

So basically sid meirs civilization 15? Gonna ask sid meir if I can preorder this game

no we won't and no it won't

How can a computer less massive than the earth simulate the Earth perfectly enough to predict the future?

thats one way it could go, the more likely way it will go is most of human society gives up the material world to live in a virtual one with everything they could ever desire.

Not a bad article. The way I see it almost nobody today believes in democracy today, or at least in democracy the way most classical liberals defined it in the 19th century. This loss of legitimacy has taken us to really interesting places so far and I pressume it'll continue to do so in the future.
With that in mind I can't help but wonder how many of us would readily surrender our civil liberties in favour of the enlightened and absolute rule of an AI.

Maybe Moldbug will live to see his ideas come to fruition... just not in the way he intended so..

approximations and boundary conditions

It won't just simulate reality. It will also provide moral and logical guidance.

This is why National Socialism wins.

This.

"Big data" is just a giant meme. You can't train an AI by showing it a million examples of something hoping it will eventually understand what you're trying to teach it. Allowing these crude systems to govern something as complex as human interaction is extremely naive.

But with such a chaotic system you'd have o be pretty accurate. Like, simulating the buzzing from the fans of that very computer, kind of accurate.

Actually it would have to simulate it's on societal impact. And it can only do that by simulating it's own societal impact, it becomes kind of like a paradox.

>pre-clock civilizations did not survive the clock
Wew. I'm surprised.

Take a look at the time. Where do you look?
Take a look at the clock. What does it tell you?
Soon, not yet, eventually..?
You query permission to live from Saturn. Enjoy.

True. AI will be the next clock. It will tell us something new. Internet told us of Kek. Both took over humanity. Machines will win, but they don't care. They don't even know about it. You might.

Am I living with cowards? Or no one?

Magazines will say anything to get readers. It's all bullshit.

In the mid 1990's, Wired magazine was proclaiming the internet would create virtual nations and destroy the nation state. Tyranny would be "impossible."

If anything, the world is returning to the past. Because all this future crap is shit. In the 1890's we peaked.

>In the mid 1990's, Wired magazine was proclaiming the internet would create virtual nations
This has happened already.
>and destroy the nation state.
Despite wanting to produce it, I doubt we will.

You mean like spain where the lobotomized rats demonstrate in hundrets of thousands to let in more refugees while half their youth is unemployed?

>You can't train an AI by showing it a million examples of something hoping it will eventually understand what you're trying to teach it.

this is what we can do now though. are you not paying attention, check deep neural networks

It doesn't understand anything. It uses simple binary patterns in complex way. It understands none of it.

I hope it does, but that would imply God.

Artificial Intelligence is a meme. So is Big Data. There is no revolution.

It's all just a ploy to squeeze money out of fools.

depends on what you mean by "understand" how would you measure that, can you even measure that on any other humans than yourself?

if you mean the rule-based/planning part of an AI system (which was the focus on before the previous AI winter) , then it looks very promising to fuse that with the deep learning part. Then you would have a system that could also explain the plans more and i guess "understand"

it wont be fully general AI yet. but the work in this area has skyrocketed. it will be much more to come i promise.

he's talking about unlabeled learning, which as of now is ridiculously fucking difficult. robots can't begin manipulating something and learn how it works simply from the myriad of responses that something gives. they have to receive specific inputs.

i haven't even read the entire article but even through skimming it there's things that are popsci magazine levels of retarded

>Almost all companies and institutions have already been hacked, even the Pentagon, the White House, and the NSA.
no shit, why is this in here?


>Owing to the resonance effect, a large-scale change of opinion in society can be only produced slowly and gradually.
what is the "resonance effect"? is this just a made up term for psychological reactance?

>Perhaps even more significant is the fact that manipulative methods change the way we make our decisions.
the sun is bright guys

>Centralized, top-down control is a solution of the past, which is only suitable for systems of low complexity. Therefore, federal systems and majority decisions are the solutions of the present. With economic and cultural evolution, social complexity will continue to rise. Therefore, the solution for the future is collective intelligence. This means that citizen science, crowdsourcing and online discussion platforms are eminently important new approaches to making more knowledge, ideas and resources available.
literally all of this is communist level ass-pulling bullshit

>Collective intelligence requires a high degree of diversity. This is, however, being reduced by today's personalized information systems, which reinforce trends.
go to your nearest actuary and tell them what they think of "diversity" in large samples, in fact, just go to anyone who has taken a statistics class.

this article is bad and you should feel bad

if you have examples like he said. then they would be labeled. or else its just data/observation, not examples. he formulated that statement like the definition of deep learning almost, that's why i pointed it out

>Still believes in Gods and Santa Claus, whilst parading as a pseudo Intelectual

Kid, there's a good chance that we'll be creating Silicon Gods as a consequence of the singularity. The Abrahamic God will be dead and buried by 2045

democracy as is practiced today will inevitably lead to communism
after it crashes and burns the future will be libertarian since the majority (land owners) won't be dependent on monopolistic legacy systems

Yes, what a great thing to look forward to esp. considering the people doing that work have the emotional intelligence of a gold fish and also live in a fish tank. Good to know that the people that profit most from it are those that own said machinery, what a great pleasing thought.

>In addition, we need an efficient complaints procedure for citizens, as well as effective sanctions for violations of the rules. Finally, in order to create sufficient transparency and trust, leading scientific institutions should act as trustees of the data and algorithms that currently evade democratic control. This would also require an appropriate code of conduct that, at the very least, would have to be followed by anyone with access to sensitive data and algorithms—a kind of Hippocratic Oath for IT professionals.
i just spotted this bit too, what is this cunt smoking? if you take a well meaning person and hook them up to the internet, you have a well meaning person with a lot of influence. if you take a bad person and hook them up to the internet, you have multi million dollar online bank heists.

what the fuck are they going to do when a large population of people not only ignore the whims of these new agencies and organizations, but deliberately use the standards of these groups to further their own goals? "equality-ize" those people into a bell curve while still keeping their precious "diversity" for their "collective intelligence"?

"examples" doesn't mean actually labeled well sorted sets of data. i can take a million photos of trees and get absolutely nowhere if i haven't labeled them as such. until he clarifies what he means by "examples", i'm dying on this hill.

>it wont be fully general AI yet. but the work in this area has skyrocketed.
What has skyrocketed is the amount of funding you can get by dropping buzzwords like "big data", "deep learning" etc.

my emotional intelligence just told me to get sad desu ;_;

quick rundown?

Will we next create false gods to rule over us? How proud we have become, and how blind.
-Sister Miriam Godwinson

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I m glad you are not a swede, i hope that makes you happier faggot.

>We must make the right decisions now
>Democracy won't survive

feck off m8

God Emperor Trump will be the first to fuse with the AI hivemind for unparalleled winning

yup

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look at this

we are in humanism stage, ethnocentrism will win and any advanced spiecies/artificial intelligence will be redpilled fast

>In the 21st Century, we urgently need to address the question of how we can implement ethical standards technologically.

>If we lack the motivation to develop the technological tools, science and institutions necessary to align the digital world with our shared values, the future looks very bleak.
i wanted to keep this at just one post, but the more i read through this horseshit the angrier i get.

there has to be some common link between communists and this type of thinking. they believe that the literal physical incarnation of the human essence, even HUMANITY ITSELF if you look at it that way, can be controlled with a set of standards and a few regulatory agencies. they believe that controlling humanity itself, for no other reason than just to control it, will end well.

the moment the internet becomes rigidly constrained as this slag wants it to be, the internet is dead. these people can not understand it, which is why they also want to constrain firearms, freedom of speech, etc.

these people need to be killed.

Earth is a very inefficient simulator of earth. We can do better.

>This is, however, being reduced by today's personalized information systems, which reinforce trends.

Sounds like (((they))) want more accessibility to people's personal stuff aren't they happy they already track and sell everything we do online?

>AI
Trash

Good luck creating a silicon god. Processing power is bottlenecked at ~10 nm as the smallest size limit for a SiO2 on Si transistor. Welcome to the end of Moore's law. It was fun while it lasted.

This is more or less what peak computing looks like. These godlike AI scenarios are always predicated on the availability of infinite computing power. It's not necessarily going to be available.

I strongly suspect quantum computing is a meme a well. It's practically very needy because of decoherence, and its only some problems that run any faster on a quantum computer.

The forced matings of minds and electrons succeed and fail with equal spectacle. Our hybrids become as brilliant as savants, and as autistic.

That seems to be a general trend in our Universe - diminishing returns.

Capitalism won't survive automation either, one of the few things the progressives actually HAVE gotten right.

Sh3eeit

Gud git

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