>Research by the Urban Institute conducted in 2014, projected that if current trends continue, Millennials will have a lower marriage rate compared to previous generations, predicting that by age 40, 30.7% of millennial women will remain single
>money.cnn.com
How the fuck do we fix this?
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Don't. Seriously. If my generation largely doesn't breed, we don't have new liberals.
Let the conservative millennials breed, they will anyway, and start over with gen z.
We don't? Marriage is not synonymous with fidelity or stability anymore.
children outside of marriage is extremely harmful to social cohesion and wellbeing, not to mention sacrilegious.
I wish there was data that broke down conservative versus millennial wedding/family patterns. If conservatives were having children and liberals wern't, that would be good.
>How the fuck do we fix this?
By fixing women
Men are scared they will loses everything they have worked hard for because their wife got bored with them.
Also no man want to marry a woman that has had miles of dick in her which is pretty much 75%(Not a joke) of women now.
this, the only useful thing marriage is good for is taxes and loans and other various economic incentives.
Stop trying to dictate peoples lives you bogan scum
>marrying a whore
HAHAHAHAHA
Except it's not. There is more incentive from the government to remain unmarried with a partner if you want to have kids, because you'll get a lot of money from the government if you're a "single mom" even if you've been living with the "baby daddy" for a decade.
I myself know 2 couples who stayed unmarried for this very reason. One of the couples only got married once the benefits ran out.
im working hard to where i am now, and the idea of marriage just sounds horrible
most woman i meet are shallow and morons. I live in nyc area
that has to be some form of fraud
>children outside of marriage is extremely harmful to social cohesion and wellbeing
So children growing up in a house where the parents are constantly fighting or divorce when the kids are in developmental years is automatically better for the children and society than two adults in a stable relationship who didn't sign a government contract?
What law did they broke?
The only way to get a virgin wife that may still have decent morals is to pick them up at age 16 after than it rapidly falls into degeneracy. Your best bet would be to go to church.
im pretty sure the intent of that type of welfare is to support fatherless mothers, no?
its actually what devastated the black community ~60 years ago
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is virginity that important?
like i aint from the 50s
>not getting married means you don't breed
kek the majority of millenial mothers (parents of gen z) never married in the first place
Yes, because raising a child outside of marriage is a sin under God.
We don't. Marriage is bullshit.
The intent of that welfare is 100% to support fatherless mothers.
But it absolutely gets abused, and it needs to stop. No one does anything about it though. Here in my state (CT) there are far more incentives for couples to remain unmarried than to marry. Once you get married, you pay a fuckton more in taxes. Stay unmarried, and you get a check from the gubment each month, and child healthcare and childcare is completely covered for several years.
but are they attractive as well?
So then why do you need to sign a government contract if it's between you and god?
It'll fix itself. Let it run it's course.
>tfw spoken like a true libertarian
>the free market will fix it meme
Of course. The divorce rates go up in parity with the sexual partners a women has had. Women start the divorce in about 80%+. If you marry a women that has had a lot of partners you are setting yourself in a minefield with an 80%+ chance to get blown the fuck out. Why put yourself in that situation?
there must be a holy covenant made official before God, through a priest and a wedding ceremony involving vows.
The easiest way for this to be achieved is through a legal process. As Romans 13:1–2 tells us, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.
So if Hillary Clinton got elected that would have been God's will and we need to do what she says?
this.
1. Average age of marriage is down. Millennials who marry are getting married younger.
2. Divorce rates are down. Married millennials are staying together.
3. Fewer millennials are marrying.
Guess which part of this good news story the fake news media chooses to isolate and report about?
why are we talking about Hillary Clinton?
God works in ways that are often not immediately understandable by us. If Hillary had won, then there would be a reason for it, a reason we may not know for 10 years, 20 years, 50 years, or even in our lifetime.
With regard to marriage, here is a good source for you to read if you are interested: gotquestions.org
>Average age of marriage is down. Millennials who marry are getting married younger.
that doesn't matter if the general trend is that the overwhelming number of millennials are not marrying. gallup.com
No, see, you are changing what you said. You didn't say "It might work out for the best 50 years from now." You said the people in power were put there by god for us to obey.
>“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.
That's quite different.
46% of millennials over the age of 34 are unmarried but with children. gallup.com
Why would it be better for those people who aren't marrying to marry and then get divorced? Marriage is being taken more seriously by millennials than their parents' generation.
>receive no sex in your 20s
>be a slave to your (((wife))) up through your 60s in a sexless marriage (assuming she doesn't divorce and steal your money anyways)
no thanks, i'll stay a wizard and keep my money
How is that changing what I said? One comment is about submission to authority, one comment is about understanding God's will.
Rape
2 bigger questions:
1. How to we stop women from automatically leaning liberal? I know plenty of women who are either redpilled or open minded to alternative views and are not uncomfortable with having their views challenged and changing their opinions when new evidence presents itself. BUT they are definitely the minority of the women I know.
2. How to we stop the beta male problem? It's just nuts the transformation I've seen in dudes. Most of the guys I knew in high school were totally normal but now that I am an adult, I see the betas everywhere. They're a majority of the younger men in my office.
It's a societal problem that I think begins at the public school (elementary school) level. Men are afraid to treat women like women, because muh mysogeny. Women are afraid to have men around that are strong and authoritative because muh oppression. Neither of these archetypes make for good mates, and strong healthy relationships can't be built when every human bean is displaying their identity politics badge like a nametag.
you can't make that claim based off current millennial marriages because the dataset is substantially smaller compared to other generations.
Maybe every single millennial who takes marriage seriously is married (27%), and the other 73% don't give a hoot about it. That would mean that millennials are far worse than other generations.
>46% of millennials over the age of 34
I guess millennial has lost any and all meaning.
I'll just wait 4 years and marry a 20 something female when I turn 30.
So we must submit to every politician regardless of their intent or ability?
We don't. This generation will be a historical example of SJWism gone wrong. Our job is to redpill gen Z on marriage so they don't make the same mistake.
Get the 30% of Millennial men who are also single to get married on the basis of ethnonationalism. Same reason your grandfather got married, but for racial ideals instead of national ones
>Maybe every single millennial who takes marriage seriously is married (27%), and the other 73% don't give a hoot about it
That's what I meant. As a measure of married people, their attitude is less flippant than the past.
we listen to our priests for they give the word of God and His authority is delivered through them.
should have read *by the age of 34.
>"start over with gen z"
>"dont worry goyim the kikes wont import a billion niggers to replace you instead"
>"dont worry goyim the billion niggers wont rape your wife and kill you"
>"nahh dont worry goyim trust me im a jew"
you will go in the oven kike
Gen Z are Gen Xer kids, unless you're referring to the random teenage slut who didn't abort.
Make it so that marriage isn't the equivalent of sticking your dick in a bear trap. Repeal no-fault divorce. Make spousal and child support voluntary.
>good goy, encourage the liberals to have children
>make sure there is another generation of liberals to vote to import niggers into the country
>yes, good goy
No, fuck off you retarded shill.
>So children growing up in a house where the parents are constantly fighting or divorce when the kids are in developmental years is automatically better for the children and society than two adults in a stable relationship who didn't sign a government contract?
'Hurr durr every marriage is your typical redneck squabble.'
Why the fuck would you even bring it up such a stupid extreme? Your no better than the "b-but raaaape" Pro-choicers.
And yes it is better just from the amount of resources available to the kids.
>Once you get married, you pay a fuckton more in taxes
wat
I thought tax benefits were one of the main benefits of marriage.
Priests don't give out marriage licenses. The government does.
this, it's perfect that liberals don't have kids, the next evolutionary step in the history of the white race
Lookie here. Its that globalist bullshit spin to use as "evidence" to "open immigration".
>30.7% of millennial women will remain single
In the words of Radiohead
"You do it to yourself, and that's why it really hurts..."
How's that le strong independent feminist woman meme working out for you girls?
and the licenses are only valid before God because they are blessed by the priests.
I can't use the worst example of a marriage but you can use the worst examples of couples that aren't married? Sounds legitimate to me.
What benefit does a child get from a marriage that they don't get from a committed stable relationship in the same household? Their mother changes her name?
No, there's a "marriage penalty", not a benefit.
They bless the two human beings, they don't bless the piece of paper you get later after the actual ceremony that the priest never looks at.
Literally no reason to get married. Just bring in the artificial wombs, or kill everyone else, so we don't have to compete against them for birth rates anymore.
If you got economic incentives to be married, then why the hell would blacks be welfare queens with 5 different baby daddies?
Because that's where the money is.
Welfare reform people have been bitching about this for years, we're subsidizing bastardy and penalizing marriage.
Because there is no rational reason to enter marriage
I'm going with this. There is no benefit to marriage if marriage doesn't lead to stable happy families. These days marriage just leads to divorce and slavery.
If you want to increase the number of people getting married, fix the institution of marriage instead of trying to trick or goad people into participating.
None of this stuff matters because if you live with a girl long enough you will become common law. In Canada, 3 years together and you're married. If you have a kid, it takes one year. People end up married legally whether they choose it or not.
It's all a lie. I have a buddy who is married and he tells me almost daily how fucked over he feels after getting married, because he pays out so much more in taxes now, even though his wife doesn't work and they have 2 kids.
The only "benefits" I can think of is you can maybe get better mortgage/car loans, and you get to have your spouse/children on your healthcare plan. But even if you only add one person to your health plan (a spouse, let's say) you have to more than double what you pay each month for health insurance.
Not in the U.S. Only about 8 states out of 50 have common law marriage. Still, I have no intention to marry. I enjoy my money and young women too much.
how do we stop these single women who have hit the wall from voting in libshit socialists like Bernie and Hillary because they want increased gibs from the government to make up for not having a functioning marriage with a man.
If you're a millennial man and you choose to get married you are quite probably mentally retarded. There is absolutely 0 reason to marry modern women. These women have been sucking dick since middle school. They fuck niggers. They are narcissists. They don't know how to cook, clean, or do laundry and they behave like men. By the time you're ready to settle down and got your shit together and are out of school, they've already been through 50 different cocks and you maybe 1-2 women. Then they're entitled to half the shit you worked for. Why would any man want that? Kids? That's really the only plausible reason.
is that just in America?
Here in Australia, marriaged couple have much, much better tax benefits than singles.
Marriage = earn more money to spend more money. It's a joke. There's a reason why "women control 70% of all purchase decisions". It's cucking yourself financially....legally AND socially.
You don't.
Marriage is completely unnecessary. In Sweden most couples never get married and just settle for cohabitation, even when they get children.
>how do we stop these single women who have hit the wall from voting in libshit socialists like Bernie and Hillary because they want increased gibs from the government to make up for not having a functioning marriage with a man.
You can't stop them from voting, but you can play the same identity voter bloc game as them. Just have national politicians who specifically cater to middle class men - just like Trump.
The key is not to marry "women"--you marry *a* particular woman, not the whole class of women, or the average woman, or some imaginary woman, but *a* woman, a real, tangible, particular woman that deserves to be married *to you*. That is, you make a better couple than you do two singles.I understand that it is harder to find women worth marrying these days and that's at least part of the reason why the marriage rate is declining. It's no reason to be anti-marriage in principle though. Who's going to disagree that you shouldn't marry some slutty chick who is untrustworthy and wants to milk your bank account? Of course you shouldn't do *that* kind of marriage. Normal, well-adjusted, happy marriages exist. They might be hard to come by, but being an edgelord about marriage full stop is a bit much.
By not allowing divorce settlements to heavily favour women anymore. That's literally the only reason men don't want to get married in this day and age. High risk, no reward.
1. You can't, its in their nature. Women's suffrage was the death knell for democratic western civilization.
2. Intact families and good male role models.
20 year old here (21 in April). Oldest wave of Gen Z.
I see literally 0 incentive to marry. The risk/reward is just not in my favor. Some tax benefits but half or more of my total worth as collateral? With a more traditional or high matience person, you'll have to splurge on a wedding. All for a fucking document saying "I love you"?
It all seems so arbitrary.
The only woman I've met who I thought was worth marrying had already been divorced once. Made me really start to question my judgement. It's possible that her ex was a legitimate piece of shit, but it's also possible that she was just really good at hiding her craziness or that I was blinded by hormones.
Didn't really pursue her too hard as a result and we eventually went our separate ways so I'll never know for sure, but since then I've always had doubts about the "you've just got to find the right girl" argument. I mean, everyone who gets married thinks they've found the right girl and ~50% of the time they're wrong.
this is basically my game plan: to marry a 18-22 year old virgin when i'm in my late 20s.
but i still haven't worked out the logistics on the optimal way to go about this. i still got a few years to figure things out though.
>~50% of the time they're wrong
And that's assuming all the people who stay married are happy.
Go back and stop the 60s from happening.
>Women are afraid to have men around that are strong and authoritative because muh oppression.
lol?
>How do we fix this?
Reconstitute traditional conceptions of gender relations, marriage, and gender identity.
That's not going to happen, because "Progress" only goes in one direction in the long run. So you can't fix it. Unless Islam conquers Europe, I suppose, but that introduces more problems than it solves.
I'm married and 21 so I don't know what you're talking about.
just do prenup?
>my position as an extreme outlier counters the majority of the dataset
k e k
Decide for yourself.
DESU only marry as a celebration of having made a relationship work in the first place for a longer period of time, not as "the next level".
Currently with a good woman I do plan to marry at some point.
I have told her there will be a prenup such that there are absolutely no financial ties which she is fine with.
I have also told her that any children will be raised in a traditional way, i.e I do the disciplining and hammer in integrity, work ethic etc and she gets to be feminine and hammer other qualities into the kid.
Also I couldn't fucking care less about a ceremony I always found it retarded, maybe it would have made more sense back when families and communities were more closely knit but now it all seems so superficial because at the end of the day we are all just individuals like Mr Goldstein wants us to be, fuuk...
TLDR: Be honest, get prenup, she will either appreciate the fuck out of it or leave, either is fine.
Find yourself a nice GenZ girl to breed.
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Not sure how it is elsewhere, but that really isn't a big help here.
>DESU only marry as a celebration of having made a relationship work in the first place for a longer period of time, not as "the next level".
Great way to look at it. Too many people see marriage as the end goal or just an excuse to have an elaborate party.
>30.7% of millennial women will remain single
there's a huge profit opportunity here
Explain. Should I start a gourmet cat food company?
yes, and an ice cream company
>children outside of marriage is extremely harmful to social cohesion and well being
welll..... doesn't that describe millennials?
>the vast majority of women in my area are far from marriage material
>the few I find are either a little too young for me or taken
I can get pussy whenever, but I want a nice girl to settle down with. I can't imagine finding one that's worth marrying for a while.
>prenup
Are you sure Norwegian courts aren't as blase with throwing them out as American courts are? I mean if American courts will do that......your scandacuck system? Wew....