So starting in March, they are going to build "prototype wall structures"

Burgers, why in the world do you need to prototype a wall???

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>beta v1.0
To see how they try and get around/over it, and work the improvements into the retail version. Tech support will need the feedback.

Because they're going to be like the Theodosian walls that kept out mudshits from Byzantium for a thousand years.

But the timing is impossible to get a good downselect.

March 6: specifications published for the wall structures

March 10: concept papers due (so they got 4 days!)

March 20: downselect by the authorities

March 24: proposals of downselected offerors to full RFP with price

???: decision by Trump who builds which wall

Because a wall built in 2017 should be more than blocks and mortar.
A modern wall will be connected to a defense network. Sensors will be connected to detect wetbacks. It needs to be dug to a certain depth to ensure stability and prevent tunneling.
Making a wall that's easy for border patrol to actually patrol and respond should take some time.

A long time ago, star forts were the best fortification possible, and that wasn't the result of someone just building a fort willy-nilly.

And that wall didn't do shit when Muslims came in the 15th century and fucked up Byzantium... and since then it is called Istanbul and is ground zero for international terrorism.

>Making a wall that's easy for border patrol to actually patrol and respond should take some time.

The reason why 97% of the separation barrier in Israel is see-through fence is because a wall cannot be patrolled by car.

How do you make a wall that is "easy for border patrol to actually patrol"?

Walk on top of it, duh. They also shoot the fuckers in Israel. America, will not shoot to kill people coming in. At least as far as I know.

by putting a road on the top

>Walk on top of it, duh.

That is the reason why Israelis build sophisticated double fences, so they can use CARS to drive in between the fence structures as a rapid response way to apprehend intruders.

Walking on a wall is very inefficient.

>build house out of mud and sticks
>it's a shitty house
>"WHY WUD U EVER NED TO BUIDL BETR HOUSZ??!! DUM BURGR!!!!"

That's you, OP.

Civilization progresses because people try to improve things, you fucking retard.

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Well, there's infighting in the administration on how the wall should be made. Pence is saying we need to make the wall electric while Mattis says we could save some money building it out of the people he's killed.

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Not if the wall was properly laid out and well manned. Probably wouldn't even have to have constant patrols walking down it. Just a few people every hundred feet. You are on a wall after all. Gives you a vantage point and you can see greater. And I imagine that it will be brightly lit at night. Israel is different and has different problems

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Inb4 they just dig under it and the wall becomes a complete utter failure.

Just look at this picture. Don't you think patrolling the barrier this way makes more sense as you can SEE the illegals coming AND drive a car rapidly to the area they are trying to jump the high voltage electric barbed wire fence?

We aren't trying to actively butcher ours though.

BUTIFFUEL!

>We aren't trying to actively butcher ours though.
What do you mean?

You are allowed to put up signs saying "HIGH VOLTAGE - DANGER" - also in spanish.

I mean, also just look at the terrain! Compared to the flat expanse that is our border vs the deep steep hills.

I've said this before and will say it again.

The wall is a retarded idea, you should protect your borders, but this wall will be a waste of money if it actually gets built here's what will happen.

> Illegal immigration is at the lowest it had ever been

> You're gonna build one of the biggest structures on earth to stop a couple of people, after 4/8 years a democrat gets in the white house and demolishes the wall, congrats you just created the german effect you now will equate the mexicans with jews and any bad mouth about them will get you in jail like it does in german, society will also become more PC due to this wall, when the wall is being destroyed people will cheer across the country.

How to build a wall, sponsored by Elon Musks IQ :

1. You open contract for the development of 360 AI motion sensor nightvision thermal image cameras.

2. You use automated drones with all kinds of cameras to do frequent flyovers along the border in and out of Mexico/USA.

2. You spread them across the border, creating an impenetrable radius.

3. You hire veterans to act once a camera detects everything, you write an IOS/Android app so they can do it all via smartphone.

4. You crackdown on illegal tunnels.

There you go a non retarded future oriented wall plan.

>a German complaining about too much planning

Nice proxy.

>Compared to the flat expanse that is our border
WHat?

Here's what I'm talking about.

Considering my CS degree will probably go nowhere and NM's economy is falling apart, I will gladly sign up to be part of the Wall's construction team

Can the grenade be dropped by the drone?

Measure twice, build once.

Then you have these ones, but much smarter/larger across the border.

It's the current year, AI is ready to be deployed.

A wall is archaic when we have the technology to make this happen.

Christ almighty man! Just look at that! Spools of electric razor wire, fast acting patrols to quickly travel distance with high power weaponry. They are fighting a different fight then we, have different terrain. We aren't trying to make a militarized border line. We are building a message more than a wall. A physical symbol of enough illegal immigrants. The border at Mexico is a chain link fence and Border Patrol already drives up and down cause the land is fucking flat

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Make it a T shape.

the I would be like the Israel wall. The _ would be a two-lane road. The overhang would hinder climbers.

Why do Germs need protective concrete blocks around public places where people gather?

It has got to be functional AND beautiful.

dear fuckheads posting isreal fence:

They have no problems blasting muslim kids in the face through the fence.

If that happened here, it'd be a national outrage.

dipshits. That's why a fence won't work. We can't shoot them.

They already have a bunch of wall on the levee with the Rio Grande and it's basically an 18 foot concrete wall with an 8ft chain link fence topped with barbed wire and immigration just drives on top of the levee. Ultimately it's probably going to have like 3-5 stages of barriers.

>We aren't trying to make a militarized border line.

But you should. The point of the border is to not let a single terrorist come across. Right?

And look at the terrain in all of the other pictures you already shared with us of Israel's wall. DO YOU NOT SEE THOSE MASSIVE DIPS?! I mean my god man. There was just one photo of a relatively flat terrain but everything else that is probably the only way they could build a wall

>Why do Germs need protective concrete blocks around public places where people gather?

We have many Religion of Peace vehicles and to protect these vehicles from harm we need to keep them away from large crowds.

Well what I am saying is that we already have a established border. Theirs might change in 5 or 6 years again. Who knows! It's not like city-state of Israel has forced Palestinians inwards and effectively taking over the country

What?

nice pic, pretty much says it all

>China builds a great wall to keep the invading mongrel hordes out
>not only is this fine, people actually pay to visit it and it's considered a wonder of the world
>American wants to build a wall to keep the invading chicanos out
>FUCKING RACISTS TEAR DOWN THIS WALL REEEEE
makes u think

Just because we have a retarded and traitorous oposition party doesn't mean we should implement retarded policy because they'll undo it in 4-8 years.

You have to deliver on results and just try to stay in power. If your actions don't deliver the requisite results to get you elected, your plan wasn't the right one.

>walls are archaic

Go sleep outside then

Have you actually worked in an actual functional team?

Someone who cares about this will already have thought about designs. Then they spend several days working flat-out brainstorming the details, and come up with several possible prototypes.

Designing a wall isn't designing a microprocessor.

>that wall didn't do shit when Muslims came in the 15th century and fucked up Byzantium

Great argument Hans, now go and prep Helga for rape, you can be allowed to watch this time

>Theirs might change in 5 or 6 years again.
No, Israel is actively making arrangements for years to keep Israel safe within the separation barrier and getting illegal settlers away from outside the separation barrier.

yeah every picture you have shown me suggests that that is really the only type of fence they can feasibly maintain. The landscape is too rough and jagged for any long lasting emplacement. Look at the erosion and the jagged fall offs on almost every single picture. Those big long sweeping curves. Any type of physical wall structure would inevitability crumble or get blown up in a attack or strike. Those fences would be easily repairable and in short time.

>Then they spend several days working flat-out brainstorming the details, and come up with several possible prototypes.

Considering that the specifications only come out on March 6, even if you have many designs, you need to modify them to work by March 10, including statics, computer modeling, pricing, finetuning etc.

I doubt a team can do all this within 4 days.

Not to mention that removing the wall would be a) very costly, b) an extremely symbolic statement with the obvious implication that you want to remove US national borders.

The democrat death cult love playing pretend, saying they are against illegal immigration whilst tacitly accepting and promoting it. A great wall forces them to take a clear stance.

they're probably talking more about where it is put and doing different models or w/e

Here is a section of wall. The wall was built in order to protect settlers close to the separation barrier from bullets shot by Palestinians. That is the only reason there is wall - to stop bullets.

I agree, but my plan is superior and cheaper.

A physical wall spanning the entire border is retarded.

Imagine if every country wasn't backward as hell and you'de have border walls/fences but on both sides of the border instead of only 1 country that wants to protect it

but also look at the landscape compared to the others. Soft gentle curves. Not alot of erosion by the looks of it. Terrain plays a lot in stable wall construction.

>Not to mention that removing the wall would be a) very costly, b) an extremely symbolic statement with the obvious implication that you want to remove US national borders.

Mark Zuckerberg will remove wall and fence if he comes to power. No doubt about it. He is a left wing Israeli after all.

>can't model and design an extruded rectangle in less than 4 days
Not everyrhing needs to be over engineered, hans

The only thing a wall is better in than a modern fence separation barrier is... illegals can paint shitty Islamic stuff on one side.

> be trump
> make sky high wall around the border
> next year Mexican intellectual developed anti gravity shoes
> walks up and down the wall
> applies for food stamps and unemployment as soon as he gets to San Diego
> grows fat and dies in America
> ???????
> profit
>

I like this point. The Image of the DNC tearing down the wall, a wall that they've emphasized is incredibly expensive, as thousands of mexican peasants rush across the border, would be the worst optics in the history of bad optics. It would be full on nation cuck porn. At the end of the day, Americans really don't like that.

Your plan would turn it into a warzone. It would be a fucking circus on the US border every night. And by god the MSM would tell us about it every day. The optics are bad if Mexicans get killed. Worse if border patrol gets killed.

Not to mention if the wall isn't there, the cartels are going to force the drugs through. At least with the wall you have a dominant enough tactical position that to try it would be suicide.

>Not everyrhing needs to be over engineered, hans

Everything is computer modeled today, including the wall prototypes ... and you know that.

Changing shit in computer models and doing statics is not a 5 hour job.

>Burgers, why in the world do you need to prototype a wall???
Because we need a wall with superior technologies like motion cameras, laser guided bear repellent and anal recognition an shiiiieeett.

Is this how it will look like?

There is more than one way to skin a cat, you worthless cubicle trash.
>t.problem.solver

Here is my prototype. I hope it gets picked!

I know this won't make sense to a German, but Zuckerbeg can't just walk back his Atheism a handful of years before he runs for president and win in America. He's unelectable. Even with the machine that would be at his back.

I don't even think it's that we're that religious. More that we'd prefer someone that acknowledges a higher power. At least one that isn't arrogant enough to proclaim there is no God.

Again, I know it's going to sound dumb to someone in Europe.

My design would consist entirely of motion sensors and concentric rings of claymore mines.

Clearly your firm is not sending its best.

>but Zuckerbeg can't just walk back his Atheism a handful of years before he runs for president and win in America. He's unelectable.

In a world in which 90% of Americans do not remember anything that happened a month earlier, Zuckerberg could run for president and say he holds a PhD from Harvard and founded MySpace and people would believe him.

Hans, you have your dates fucked up. Don't watch all that cuck porn, it makes you dysfunctional.

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6 march - the government invites proposals for prototypes

10 march - vendors submit concept papers for prototypes (hence they can start on these concept papers already now)

20 march - the government decides which prototypes are rejected in an initial screening

24 march - those still in the running submit proposals with detailed bids for the construction of their prototype walls

So they can already now start developing PROTOTYPE PLANS, to be submitted MARCH 10th.

>Clearly your firm is not sending its best.
Actually, we will send our best. Pic related is our entry.

nuclear mines aren't easy hans

Against Trump? Are you kidding? Trump would give Zuckerberg some killshot nickname to bring it up every time anyone even thought about him.

Would be 10 times beyond Crooked Hillary in is effectiveness here.

>Zuckerberg
>President
Even more unelectable than Clinton.

Stick to STEM, Germans are too autistic for politics and humanities.

>So they can already now start developing PROTOTYPE PLANS, to be submitted MARCH 10th.
They do not know the specifications - height, depth, breath, overhang, tilt, mass, hooks for wire, wiring for monitoring etc. are all not released in the announcement. This will come on March 6.

probably a bunch of colourbond mate

As long as Islam lives the world is not truly safe.

What the fuck are you talking about.

No one would get killed, today when mexicans are stopped at border control they aren't killed they are sent back, we would do the same, catch and release.

The cartels already force drugs trough tunnels and cannons.. a wall would not do shit.

Again I don't think americans think things trough,

With my plan you could even patrol the sea.

Also legalize the fucking weed, make some logical laws, legalization destroys weed culture, go look at a weed store in colorado, it's like an apple store, read this fastcodesign.com/3066573/wanted/how-legalization-is-changing-the-aesthetic-of-smoking/18

Just to make it clear to people thinking about the timing, the prototype plan will not just be "what sort of wall are we going to build guys?" It will be the whole system of what's made offsite, is concrete poured, etc. Basically you design both the wall and the tools/process to make the wall. It's critical that it's done right, because it could cut Billions off the price of something so large.

With the economy crashing in 2019 and after Trump's heart attack from eating too many well cooked cheeseburgers... The Zuck will have it easy to win. He also will put 30 billion dollars into the race to brainwash all Americans.

The physically reality of the wall sends a clear message.

>everything is computer modeled today
No, it isn't.
>t.Carpenter.Superintendent

We build irl mockups.

>build a wall with a surface finish that helps beaner climb it

Gas yourself, Yohan.

>Let me in, oh tender woman.

What's the purpose of the texture on the wall user? Looks easier to climb.

KEK agrees

Why do you presume that prototype walls will be required to be built according to government-provided specifications for: "height, depth, breath, overhang, tilt, mass, hooks for wire, wiring for monitoring etc"

You presume that the government will decide in advance the thickness of the wall. Why do you presume this?

Fake news.
He actually just advocated that we conquer Mexico and enslave the population

>the prototype plan will not just be "what sort of wall are we going to build guys?" It will be the whole system of what's made offsite, is concrete poured, etc. Basically you design both the wall and the tools/process to make the wall.

Sure, but that's the tools and processes to build the PROTOTYPE wall - NOT the finished wall.

Better?

We Germans have a LOT of experience in building good walls.

>Meanwhile in Germany, they've chosen a leader that is stronger on suicidal altruism than the already crazy bitch.

Economy's booming here krautfag.

Hans is tired of watching Helga being raped, it makes his head hurt, so now he just sits in his kekshed and shitposts.

1 . Build X number of prototype wall segments

2. Encourage provocateurs and saboteurs to attack the prototypes

3. Learn which wall design resisted sabotage the most cost-effectively

4. ??????

5. Profit!

Hans, you're mixing the walls up. Your wall was intended to kill those trying to escape socialism. This wall is intended to allow Mexicans to flood out as much as they want.

But it will be cheap!

How about pic related? You will only get thin and strong illegal immigrants this way.