How can you possibly back his travel ban?

how can you possibly back his travel ban?

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How can you possibly shill for a few pennies?

well, the law says he can pretty clearly

By agreeing with it

how come people are protesting against it? the only benefit is a false sense of security

I know it's sad that he's only banning 7 muslim countries instead of all of them, but it's a hell of a lot better than any of the other presidential candidates would've done.

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but what benefit is there from this? not all muslims are terrorist, sure there are a few black sheep in the herd but security screening and not doing what merkel did should solve that

1) It's only a temporary ban less than four months. My aunt from another country has waited two years just get a visa. Other relatives have waited a longer time. 90 days is no big fucking deal.

2) Only 7 countries have been temporarily banned, nations which foster or host terrorist activities.

3) In most of these, we actually have troops there, many of whom have died fighting the terrorists present there. Example one, The first American war casualty under President Trump was in Yemen, one of the countries temporarily banned. One of our own Navy SEALs was killed there during a mission. These are highly embattled areas with terrorist organizations or activities. There's no disputing that.

4) The ban was specifically made as "temporary" initiative, a very short one, in order to give the new administration, and federal agencies, time to investigate and figure out how to more safely and properly allow good people in, and keep the bad and dangerous ones out; seeing that the previous administration did a piss poor job at that. This time will also allow us to create a better vetting process, which we absolutely need, while at the mean time, terrorists inclined to come here don't take advantage of a window which would easily allow them to come here in guise as a refugee.

5)This ban does not at all target religion or ethnic groups, it is strictly related to terrorism. In fact, the seven nations banned are an exact copy from a list of dangerous nations Obama made in December 2015. There are 40 muslim nations. The top five majority Muslim nations are not even on this list. Some ask why wasn't Saudi Arabia banned. First, the fact alone that SA, a Muslim nation, was not banned, proves that this is not a "Muslim" ban. Second, we have huge national interest in ensuring a smooth supply of oil to our country, we don't want to fuck that transition up with SA. Third, SA and the Trump administration are already in talks to create refugee safe zones in the Middle East.

This is very insightful thank you

ahmed plz

The seven nations temporarily banned are:

Iraq, (Our military is fighting terrorists there)
Syria, (Our military is fighting terrorists there)
Iran, (Huge sponsor of terrorism, not a friend or ally at all)
Sudan, (a fucking war zone, total mess, and long time enemy of the US)
Libya, (Our military was fighting terrorists there, but is now overrun by radicals/terrorists. Remember Benghazi)
Somalia (Huge haven for radical Islamists engaged in terrorism)
and Yemen (Our military is fighting terrorists there)

It makes total fucking sense to have a temporary ban.

No problem.

Then why are people so against it? including judges

Because Europe

Why? The leftist media, which creates fake news, and thus creates public opinion, or rather controls it. And leftist judges, who like the media, have their own globalist agenda, regardless of whats best for this country.

The current case which allowed a stay (or suspension) of the executive order came from our 9th circuit, located in the west coast. This is the most leftist, "progressive" circuit in our country. Most of the judges there are closet Marxists. Cases from this circuit have been overturned 80% of the time by our Supreme Court. Yes, there are news networks and judges that hate America as it is and which to turn it into a globalist, marxist shithole.

*and wish to turn

Du kannst halt nicht alle Musel kontrollieren. Daher ist ein allgemeiner Einreise-Stopp besser.

You can't check all mudslimes properly when they want to enter the country, therefore a general ban is better. Its just common sense.

because I really really hate Islam.
I wish we had one too

BTW, the media has made it look like most people are against the ban, but most people are actually in favor. The media has falsely portrayed the ban to against a religion or ethnicity, which it is not at all. This false portrayal by the leftist news media has energized a few radical groups here to protest and do their whole whining tactics. Don't believe the narrative that the media spouts. They love creating hysteria and inserting their own bias, twisted perspective into things, if not straight out lying about it.

easily, I dont want terrorist faggots killing people here. they can keep doing it in europe though

Answer me exactly why importing any economic migrant is a good thing

You know you're full of shit, right?

Ninth circuit doesn't consist of judges, only clowns.

Says the man who can't articulate worth shit. Care to explain.

how does the travel ban work with people who double nationality? I have both the American and Tunisian nationality and tho trump didn't ban my country, what will happen if he does?

bump (pls answer me)

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This was actually an issue that was present at the start of this ban, but which was quickly resolved as it only needed clarification.

Commissioner of US Customs and Border Protection, Kevin McAleenan, clarified that travelers would be evaluated based on the passport they present rather than their dual citizen status, even if they have citizenship in one of countries banned.

EU migration commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos was one of the first to bring this up. He later said on his Twitter,

“[I am] glad that issue of EU dual nationals is resolved. Useful and constructive phone call with DHS (US Department of Homeland Security) Secretary John F Kelly. Glad that issue of EU dual nationals is resolved. Will meet Kelly soon. — DimitrisAvramopoulos (@Avramopoulos) January 31, 2017

1) "Three months of waiting" is a pretty big deal if you're already legally living and working in the US and were just travelling. Not showing up for three months is pretty much guaranteed to get you fired, for starters.

3) seeing that the previous administration did a piss poor job at that.

Why? Did anyone from the banned countries commit terror attacks in the US in the past eight years?

> This ban does not at all target religion or ethnic groups, it is strictly related to terrorism

Christians from these countries get an exception. It's obviously about religion.

>Why? Did anyone from the banned countries commit terror attacks in the US in the past eight years?

in germany france etc. they have, but the us only takes in a fraction of the refugees and therefore has less to fear

Only have to look at your own country

Europe doesn't do vetting, but the US already does.

And based on terror attacks in Europe he should have banned Tunisians mate, not anyone from that list.

The list was created by Congress and the Obama administration last year when Obama increased vetting of those same countries because of the security risk they posed.

Trump just put a temporary halt to it while he assesses how well the current vetting system works.

You are right though, he should have banned all Muslims and any country that accepts too many Muslim refugees.

1) The ban actually has certain exemptions, some are automatic and some require waivers. If you are living and working here, then you most likely are here on a green card. These green card holders do not need a waiver but are automatically allowed back into the US. Their stay has already been established/verified by that green card. This also applies to those who are legal permanent residents, they won't need a waiver, but are automatically allowed entry.

3) Not all Christians get an automatic exemption, and there have already been cases of Christian families in Lebanon being denied. An existential, imminent threat and the identity of the person must be proven first. In addition, this exemption may include Muslims too, but priority is given to Christians, who are the ones most being persecuted in those regions, e.g. massacred by fire squads, burned alive, beheaded, etc. No mercy is given to these Christians, since conversion or death is the only choice given them, as opposed to Muslims.

The exemption is more about the actual level of threat, and based upon that, priority is established; which coincidentally means Christians are the ones most targeted by ISIS. Obama did the opposite, and gave preference to Muslim refugees first, over Christians, and in some instances, this Muslim preference allowed for Christian villages to be overrun and fiercely subjugated under the deadly sword of these radical Islamist terrorists.

how about you fuck off and go play with your fuck-goat, muhammad?

Work and student visas are a thing. And even green card holders are only exempt from the ban because one of those pesky judges ruled that way. If it was up to the Trump administration, they would still be banned.

> Obama did the opposite, and gave preference to Muslim refugees first, over Christians, and in some instances, this Muslim preference allowed for Christian villages to be overrun and fiercely subjugated under the deadly sword of these radical Islamist terrorists.

What the fuck are you talking about?

never said it was a good thing

In it's original form? Completely unacceptable.

His lawyers will eventually get it to pass legal muster I assume, but there will still be push back.

How can you even show your face desu

Why do we care if student visa holders were banned too? Just last month one of those Somalian student visa holders went on an ISIS-inspired stabbing spree at Ohio State University. To hell with them all.

Why don't you ban Trump supporters from the country, too, because they go on murder sprees pretty regularly, as well.

Because they are citizens. I have no compunction to import thousands of barbarians from third world countries with failing governments.

I care about my family and country.

I know it's hard to understand when you've been programmed to self hate and (((repent))) for ww2

The U.S. accepted 12,587 Syrian refugees in fiscal year 2016, and the overwhelming majority of them were Sunni Muslims. (source: Refugee Processing Center). Sunnis tend to support the rebels there and oppose the Syrian president.

Only 64 Syrian refugees admitted to the US (about .5%) were Christians in fiscal year 2016. So far this fiscal year, about 1.8 percent of the Syrian refugees accepted into the US were Christians.

In fiscal year 2016, there were 9,880 refugees accepted from Iraq, and 15.4 percent of them were Christians.

ISIS has made it clear that it is going after Christians because it intends to “conquer Rome, break your crosses, and enslave your women.”

On Mach 3, 2014, a statement released by the US titled “Christians Under Threat In Syria” read: "The United States deplores continued threats again Christians and other minorities in Syria, who are increasingly targeted by extremists. Last week in Raqqa, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) announced it will force Syrian Christians to either convert to Islam, remain Christian and pay a tax, or face death."

Christians are the persecuted minority in the Middle East right now facing the most danger.

When the Obama administration was asked as to why the number of Christian refugees from the ME being accepted is so low, they refused to release exactly what method they used to determine who comes in.

A similar policy is what enables me to not be raped by ahmed while ali doesn't blow up the nearby store
though a krautcuck can't understand that

>In fiscal year 2016, there were 9,880 refugees accepted from Iraq, and 15.4 percent of them were Christians.

Less than 1% of Iraqis are Christians. The Iraqi numbers shows a preference for Christians, if anything. Not sure what's up with the Syrians, but they're fleeing from Assad and the civil war more than from ISIS.

Confirmed. Live in muslim neighborhood, get blown up at least twice and raped every single time I step outside.

I'm not from any of those shithole countries nor do I know anyone associated with them, so I really just don't give a shit. This is why I was pulling for Trump, because as an upper middle class white dude nothing he'll do will really hurt me. Since when did voting for our interests become so frowned upon?

>civil war

How can anyone still believe this nonsense? When foreign powers train and arm terrorists in order to destabilize a country, it's not a fucking civil war.

There's absolutely no reason at all to be taking in any (((refugees))) on a large scale. If you want to help them, then set up refugee camps in the area and stabilize the country, don't sacrifice your entire country to virtue signal.

> not a civil war

Whatever. If you train and arm terrorists to destabilize the country, that makes you more responsible for the resulting refugees, not less.

> stabilize the country

How the fuck do you think that would work without sending weapons and/or your own military? Sing kumbaya?

>resulting refugees

Refugees aren't inevitable. Politicians like Merkel create refugees when they declare that Europe will give them everything they want for free if they come. Hell, the majority of refugees aren't even from Syria.

There will always be wars and famine and poverty. It's not the job if the West to be the world's garbage disposal. As it is, there are only a few hundred million whites left. I'd prefer to keep our race alive as long as we can. We've seen what happens to countries when shitskins take over.

It triggers the fuck outta everybody, especially Iranians and their Stromfag bitches. It's perfect

Having white supremacists run the country did not go too well when we tried that, either. Actually it was a major disaster not just for Germany, but for half the world, too.

We'll see how it goes for you over the next four years, but based on what I have seen so far I'm not getting my hopes up.

>not all muslims are terrorist

Because it only lasts a couple of months. It won't do a whole lot in terms of stopping terrorism because it's not aong term ban but it passes the left off so bad so that's why I support it. If it didn't happen I wouldn't care because like I said I don't think it's going to that effective if it's only a 3 month deal.

>Less brown people in your country
>"how can you possibly support this!"
easily, I wish my politicians would come up with one

>unironically thinking Hitler was a disaster

The only problem is that he lost and the international cartels won. The result speaks for itself: ethnic cleansing of whites in our own countries and forced acceptance of cross-dressing children.

Because a sovereign nation should be able to decide who can come into their nation. To bad we live in a globalist society where the "new world order" gets to control the border of earth. As all countries are only provinces of the Global empire.

But yes if our Nations where free nations we should have say in how it is run.

Those ISIS terrorists will all go to Germaniye now, why aren't you happy?

> Millions of dead Germans
> Cities reduced to rubble
> Country divided and occupied
> People starving years later in the aftermath

It was a complete desaster, even from a white supremacist point of view

Brown people are gross and we are already working on getting rid of the Mexicans and some chimpy blacks.

The result is even worse: degeneracy has been normalized and people are taught that pride in one's people or nation is shameful. War is bad but the current world is an absolute disgrace.

>white supremacists
Prove to me that Trump or the majority of his cabinet are
Also, I'm not American

Not gonna lie, former Trump supporter here. I just can't take this guy seriously anymore. This election belonged to the Republican party and there does honestly need to be an upending of this socialist nightmare, but this idiot can't even form coherent sentences let alone fix a country

The majority of his cabinet doesn't matter when Steve Bannon is pulling the strings.

Just because you're against tough border protection doesn't mean everyone else should follow your example.

You realise that countries with an 'open border' are a massive minority in the world right? There aren't a lot of countries where you can just turn up with your backpack full of shit and expect to be taken care of and to be given citizenship.

Just because you don't care about your border doesn't give you a logical argument or moral superiority in giving other countries shit about their border policies.

I'll leave you with this:
>kys yourself

It's pretty simple amhed

>See terror attack
>Be terrified
>attempt to ban source of terror

kek, underrated

> Germany gives citizenship to people turning up at the border

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You're missing the point Hans.

I don't know this guy. Why do you say he's a white supremacist?

How can you possibly live in a shit place like Germany? I hope you guys like to be on your knees. You better get used to it with all these muslims making their home in your country

if it stops this from happening again, how can you oppose?

Because he's self-admittedly "alt-right", doesn't want his kids to go to school with too many jewish kids and both co-founded and ran Breitbart news in the past.

>Trump supporters go on murder sprees regularly
$0.50 has been deposited into your account. We here at Buzzfeed thank you for your continued work!

> stating facts makes you a shill

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>Facts
>Source: My ass

The OSU knife/car attacker was from Somalia. Can you explain why you think it benefits Americans to allow 70 IQ average Somalians into our country?

>literally an Orwellian state

Why am I not surprised?

It keeps the mudslimes out. How is this even a question?

Did you miss that dead Indian software engineer this week?

Less than 1% of the refugees the Obama administration let in were Christians. Look it up.

he is travelbanning these countries cause he plans to war with them soon.

we all remember famous general wesley clarks quote
youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

isnt it funny most of these countries are on the list? i dont believe in coincidences.

Do you have any sources to back this claim? Or are you just making shit up because you don't know what you're talking about? Because your suggestion that we ban Americans from America might be the most retarded thing I've ever seen on Sup Forums

>One inccident
>Regulary
>Does not tie to trump in anyway

There shouldn't be Muslim neighborhoods in Germany. You are so cucked.

The more muslims you have in a western country, the more terrorists you have. More UK muslims joined ISIS than the force to fight them.

>Because he's self-admittedly "alt-right",
The definition of alt-right is different depending who you ask
>doesn't want his kids to go to school with too many jewish kids
Proofs?
>and both co-founded and ran Breitbart news in the past.
I don't listen to this. The mention of Breitbart doesn't prove white supremacy to me. You gotta be more especific

Triggered much?

I probably should have said white nationalists, not Trump supporters, since you're going to nitpick. But they're basically synonyms. Did you miss the guy shooting up the black church? Sikhs because they look like muslims? Indians because they look like muslims?

Meanwhile, the kill count from these countries you banned is still 0 for the last decade or so. You don't give a fuck about American lives, you just want a scapegoat.

Yeah, alt-righters came up with that term as a codeword to hide behing specifically so they could deny being white nationalists. That does not change the fact that they are white nationalists.

>All racists are Trump supporters
>If you supported Trump you're a racist
Stop posting anytime Achmed.

>everything he says is correct
> faggot commiebong gets triggered
Kill yourself

If you're Muslim you're not automatically a terrorist, beheading people or oppressing women, but that doesn't stop you from hating the entire group either, does it?

Because the law says he can ban travel from any country or countries he wants.. also, every president since (at least) Carter has implemented some kind of travel ban during their presidency.

I know, but there are also a lot of vultures who saw the name was growing in popularity and started claiming to be alt-right without being necessarily white supremacists.

Lots of shill posting from German proxies right now. Slide and report.

>but what benefit is there from this?
Fewer muslims in America of course.

because he bans all terrosits countries

I wanna know what you guys think about cultured people that flew iran and moved to US. Been friends with somebody in that position that loves iran but hates what the muslims did to it (his father told him everything was great before the muslim regime came and fucked up everything)
Do those people still have a chance to visit their homeland and live in US? i dont know the exact bans placed rn

Cucks will bitch about anything Trump does, even though he's doing nothing different from Obama.