War breaks out in south China Sea. How do you foresee the First Battles going...

War breaks out in south China Sea. How do you foresee the First Battles going? Who engages in combat in the area or will it be strictly US and Korea vs China for the first few conflicts. How do you think the soldiers on both sides will feel? Who will be the victor in your opinion?

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The US has the largest Navy in the world; if China wants a war in the South China Sea, most of their fleet will be destroyed within a couple of months.

>america goes to war with China over control of the south CHINA sea

Then we will have no more imports from China and the Walsharts will starve.

then america shouldn't use the gulf of MEXICO...

Lol.

China will also lose all its money and power from exporting to America. This isn't difficult.

This.

We wouldn't even have to land troops anywhere but South Korea. We would control the sea and starve China to death after we decimate their navy.

America pushes chinas shit in, china can't into force projection so the US beats them all the way to the mainland. Once the war is on the mainland it would bog down a lot because now china can bring the full might of their military out.

Sage because this should be on /k/ not Sup Forums

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Chinese Goals.

People who think 'Taiwan' or 'reunification' constitute Beijing's greatest goals are falling into a classic deception of the kind taught by Sun Tzu. In the realm of Chinese needs and ambitions 'Taiwan' is merely a short scene in one act of the play. That play is entitled 'biological survival'.

Under that overall goal what are the sub-objectives of the Chinese race and government?

1. Lebensraum. China doesn't have enough of it and by their standards other races aren't doing much with their living spaces. This particularly applies to Africa and Australia. So take them. What 'moral sense' would inform the Chinese not to do this?

2. Resources of energy and raw materials. The biological survival aspect in the context of high energy industrial civilization is obvious.

3. Individual Women for Individual Mating. This sounds like a throw back to ancient times. It will come within the practical experience of many reading these words. A confluence of several white technologies in other species' hands has produced an historically rare situation. When China was weaker it dealt with its lack of Lebensraum by limiting family sizes to an objective one child. The specific means used were infanticide, abortion and later birth control and government laws limiting families to one child. This westernized attempt at population limitation collided with an older Asiatic racial preference for sons over daughters. That's because in Asia daughters literally 'join' their husband's extended families and are a dead economic loss to their parents' families. This racial attitude is so deep it's even expressed in a language that uses different words to describe paternal and maternal grandparents.

China wins against all others claimants in the south china sea combined unless the USA gets involved, If that happens you can start searching for the nearest nuclear shelter.

The next white technology factor is prenatal pregnancy testing to determine the sex of the child. After this became available females were far more commonly aborted than males under the constraints of the racial patterns of 'family' and a government population limitation policy. China will soon have an excess of military age males in the range of 50-100 million over the available number of female mates. These males are pre-doomed demographically to -0- hope of ever finding a Chinese bride. The civilizing influences of a good woman upon a man (feminist 'wymyns' don't count in that process) will thus be absent upon this vast pool of potential soldiers. Their only hope for biological propagation is to literally conquer a bride.

From the perspective of the Chinese government there are three theoretical options and one practical option for dealing with this demographic time bomb.

a. Do nothing and let China dissolve in internal chaos.

b. Immediately begin mass normalization of homosexuality as a socially acceptable lifestyle.

c. Arm and send these unpaired males forth to conquer.

>South sea of the U.S
Every Country in the World belongs to America

I predict option (c) will be the choice because of unconscious racial imperatives and a conscious calculation by Chinese leaders that these males will be safer the further away they march. As a French politician once said during the Judeo-Masonic Revolution in France (called the French Revolution), "Peace is out of the question. We have 300,000 men under arms. We must make them march as far as their legs will carry them. Otherwise they will return and cut our throats."

nah, don't forget the US navy is spread out through all the globe. China is going to have the upper hand, at least at the beginning of the conflict

With that one Carrier they have?

where are these spicy psycho-pass images coming from

>Implying we know our full Navy and Military Vehicle and arms cache

don't forget their bases in mainland china and in a few islands in the south china sea.

I think the best option to control the area are not the carriers but the american bases in japan and south korea

clearly the chinese won't win a conventional battle.
nobody wages warfare conventionally against 'murca.
i'm interested in what unconventional warfare the chinese will use.
i assume they will use diesel subs and their carrier killer missile.

>force projection

What lol

They won't be needing that because this, if it happened, would be taking place so close to China that they will be able to deploy cruise missiles and aircraft from the mainland.

If they're fighting a war right off their coast a lack of carriers isn't a problem.

First Battles?

>Whatever carrier strike group in the SCS will likely get sunk.
>Guam might have it's military instalations bombed but won't be invaded.
>North Korea potentially given the go ahead to invade South Korea.
>American assets in Japan bombed.

The coming battles?
>America launches a crippiling sub campaign where the Chinese navy and shipping industries are reduced to rubble.
>America launches a cruise missile and stealth strike campaign to reduce China's ability to wage anit-air and anti-ship defenses.
>Once Air superiority is regained America sends troops to Japan by the thousands to prepare for a mainland invasion
>Bombing campaign to reduce Chinese food and logistical supplies.

The greatest chance for a World intervention before esclation would be after the first few battles with Russia trying to defuse.

The greatest chance for Nuclear weapons to be used would be before a China mainland invasion.

Hawaii and west coast bases could be at risk but I don't think China has the means or will to carry out attacks against them.

>b. Immediately begin mass normalization of homosexuality as a socially acceptable lifestyle.
This is already done.

What an absolute meme. China will never launch nukes for the SC sea.

Us navy here.

If we were to wage full battle against them it would last maybe a few weeks.

The power of the navy fleet is absurd. There is no force on the planet that can stand up to our navy, much less the entire US military.

It has nothing to do with guns, type of guns, owning guns and weapons, or basic military bs and more to do with current politics and military understanding. So you're a retard and probably can't even sage correctly. Kys

This is wrong. Honestly this may be the single instance of modern political conflict that would cause nukes not to be dropped

>Once Air superiority is regained America sends troops to Japan by the thousands to prepare for a mainland invasion
oh, wow, lol you just lost the war. lmao

What about pic related?
The Jews

How has no one posted this yet??

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He was doing good up till then.

The Argie is right here, in the early parts of the conflict China would preform well because US assets are more spread out and the Chinese are on the defensive which gives them an advantage. This advantage would be lost quickly because not even considering the fighting the loss of trade with the US, and the subsequent blockading of ports would cause the Chinese economy to collapse and as this is happening the US will be moving more and more air and naval assets into the region.

Early battles would be heavily in china's favor and if North-Korea gets involved South-Korea well fall before the end of the first week.
However I believe the U.S. would be victorious despite inevitable massive economic damage done to us, our military-industrial complex was the one industry we managed to keep on our shores. China would be utterly incapable of reaching our shores, their navy just isn't built for open ocean struggle, we would bury them in sheer bombs and steel.
Recent wars have colored people's perception of our military unfairly, fighting insurgency's drastically reduces the effectiveness of high powered technology like tanks, drones and fighter jets. We would be almost utterly incapable of holding ground but total infrastructure damage and deep strikes into Chinese headquarters would force Chinese surrender.
Unless things go nuclear, which it would, eventually.

yeah

This issue with going to war with China is that we will win

But in the process will will loose aircraft, a lot of aircraft. Probably in the thousands. It'll be hard to recover from that with a shrinking economy.

For the Chinese?

It's a pure fantasy to think that the Chinese would even be able to bomb Guam, let alone them thinking it's worth trying. if the Chinese were to bomb us air assets they would go after Okinawa.

Vietnam #2 a large false flag/terrorist attack would have to take place for US citizens to even back the war. The culture would need to be controlled as well so the same thing doesn't happen again.

China would 100% have the initial advantage because their fleets is all there and made for coastal defense. The US would quickly be able to pull it's fleet from around the world and gain naval superiority. US would then bomb the shit out of China from Japan, south korea and okinawa. Its unlikely the US would be able to pull off a large-scale land invasion unless China's government collapsed or things went nuclear.

can someone give me a rundown on how our tactical nuclear arsenal is positioned against China? Would we be able to destroy most of their strategic arsenal before it even gets off the ground without having to resort to strategic nukes ourselves?

>mainland invasion

There's no point to such a thing. Starve the Chinese by destroying their air and sea trading.

Yup.

The new world order will commence, then we will go to space.

China didnt participate in cold war nuclear arms race to the extent that USA and Soviet Union did. When USA was developing new types of nuclear weapons and ballistic missles, Chinks were still figuring out how not to starve their whole population to death, so they have a lot of catching up to do.

Don't underestimate their cyber war powers though.

/k/omrade Binkov has the answer!

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The ability to ship gear to the places it needs to go.

It has everything to do with equipment and doctrine.

And are you really so stupid to confuse someone else bumping the thread with me?
Your thread is shit faggot.

Glorious Piles of Dead Yankee corpses

Sink em all China

Sink em All

>tfw he thinks that will actually happen

only 1 way to find out 4 sure

>if North-Korea gets involved South-Korea well fall before the end of the first week

No. The norks are a non issue. yea they can lob some 5kt nukes (of which only around 5 are deploy-able) around and pretend there relevant. but its just not enough to compensate for their dogshit conventional forces. they have enough to prevent themselves from being completely over run by us and the South Koreans.

> inevitable massive economic damage done to us

How is it inevitable? US China trade is 4% US GDP, while it's 17% of chinese GDP. US exports to china could be consumed internally or exported to somewhere else, US imports from china could be sourced from SE asia and Latin america (this is already happening on its own) or just onshored. China on the other hand could never dream of consuming their exports internally at prices needed to keep production profitable, as with imports from the US the only places to get those goods are american allies.

>American allies join the fight over the SCS
>China gets shit pushed in

Hey, Japan are bretty cool guys after all.

China would have an initial advantage in force and numbers, even factoring US allies, such as Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, the Philippines, Australia, and Brunei. As a result, China would strike as quickly and powerfully as possible. Expect flurries of ballistic missiles toward and fierce dogfights over American bases in the Western Pacific. The US and allies however are likely to weather this assault long enough to fully mobilize to defeat the Chinese navy, air force, missile installations, and support structure. Expect an eventual American victory coming at a higher price than one might expect

>mainland invasion
>Russia
I'm sorry, but these are dumb

sleep tight Dubbyah

>Poland
>Having anything to say about other countries getting their shit pushed in
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