We all understand that Europe is undergoing a mass browning and cultural transformation. We know that this shit is happening. That has all been said a million times. Honestly... every fucking post is: "Look how fucked this is!" "Sweden is fucked." "England is muzzie world" etc etc
So here it is:
How do we fix it? What are some solutions (realistic) to actually fix it? We won the meme war (cultural war read as cultural policy) using the normative form of political coercion... So what do we do... and what CAN we do to fix the solution?
Stop letting people in the fucking country for starters.
STEP 2. MAKE A BORDER WALL.
STEP 3. DEPORT SHITSKINS.
STEP 4. DEPLOY BORDER SENTINELS TO GUN DOWN INCOMING REFUGEES.
Jesus christ, it's like I need to hold your fucking hand.
Dylan Thompson
Christianity.
Christopher Nguyen
it was meant for a discussion.
But those are your steps. I understand that.
we all know that.
But what I am saying is:
How do we do that effectively? What steps would we need to do each of these steps? How do we subvert the sjw/globalist/etc bullshit resistance we will get? How do we sell this? What is the most effective way?
>altruism altruism has to die.
possibly. we have become a godless shit tier world. i don't like organized religion but the morals that went along with it were pretty nice.
Wyatt Morales
doesnt matter since the chines will run the world in 20 years
Julian Fisher
probably not.
they are fucked. one child policy, shitty infrastructure, poor planning, inflated currency, and lack of innovation.
Lucas Hill
We need to redpill the muzzies about the degeneration of their people so they'll go to their own corner of the world to maybe try and fix things. Hopefully making gains in their IQ through time and benefiting everyone through the correlation of high IQ and low criminality/higher virtue.
That or banish the muzzies and wait for them to become the abbos of the eurasian continent.
They're not the conquerors they claim, they're a self destructive culture suffering from a mental virus ideology called Islam.
Andrew Thompson
mostly agree with you.
impossible to redpill them.
would correlate them to degenerate blacks in the United States.
>poor planning >lack of innovation >inflated currency what is it 2005?
James Clark
starting to look like it.
i understand your sentiment.
Charles Gray
>current year >past year
you're already fucking brown.
But yeah. China has a world of fucking problems. Militarily they are ions behind the US.
China will self-implode.
Like building a tower out of shitty material... once the weight is there it will collapse.
Donald is going to really fuck their standard operating procedures up.
Too fucking back mr Bill get my sax sucked clinton gave them so much shit in the 90's. they'd be farther behind if he hadn't.
Caleb King
Genocide realistically there is no other solution. If you cant accept that stop LARPing and fuck off
Nathan Clark
The only way to save it at this point is, let it burn. Unfortunately our only option for self preservation is a European uprising in all western countries. Which will only happen when cultural enrichment hits critical mass.
Aiden Parker
it won't fly. too much resistance. there is always a solution.
Sebastian Brown
>b-but allah said spread muh islam throughout da werld
Cameron Ortiz
>spain and italy fucking lol, the whole "italians want to fuck their own sisters" meme is real
Mason Ward
Only way to fix it is a full on French Revolution and beheading all the bloodlines, with Rothschilds at the top.
Too bad that'll never happen since neither you nor normalfags truly care.
Levi Young
fucking muzzies.
when are y'all going to get your guns back?
Xavier Rivera
>trump drains swamp through pizzagate >renaissance >Trumpism (modernized McCarthyism) >msm implodes >slowly deprogramming population >what's over of the left (WOOTL) goes terrorist, sides with ISIS >reason reigns again
Jackson Nguyen
maybe.
>hewillnotdivideus
Matthew Parker
Basically Christianity gives all the red pill attributes. It supports a strong family and society. It demands acquiescence to the norms. It forms a strong and unified society. It is also generally benign while Islam is fucking cancer.
If the West recovered their own identity there wouldn't be such a crisis. They blame Christianity for all ills rather than realize it was their own weaknesses that caused the historical problems. They virtue signal that Christianity is the problem in a cowardly way to deflect the fact that their ancestors did some bad things. The problem is that the actually awful stuff was pretty much prohibited by Christianity. If anything it kept a check on the bad behaviors. Like how Christians are behind the abolition of slavery. So yeah, the West should wake the fuck up and stop blaming themselves and particularly Christianity.
Angel Lopez
gas the kikes and have donald to dispose of his son-in-law and soros and company, when the jews get killed this madness will end, but since burgers as well as shit tons of whites like kikes, it isn't going to happen any time soon (or never)
Cooper Harris
>first delusional. No kind of Nigger gets out of a done gibsmedat paradise. Libs and international socialist tried this and are getting raped as reward >wait for them to become the abbos of the eurasian continent. They were till a bunch of libtards tried YOUR plan after 89, like teaching the muzzies about western values and "integrate" them. Albo rapefugees in europe are a sad artefact from those times.
Really the only solution needs to be a final solution. To reach this goal there needs to be a cracking down on muslim communities from the top and from the bottom. Top needs to be more control, especially checking muzzy businesses and taking the rules a bit to serious, maybe even introduce new rules making it irrational for shitskins to open businesses, like making foreign financing illegal if they get any form of national help or tax reductions. Also pushing the populist narrative and keeping mudshit always in the news, which brings us to the bottom up actions. Most obvious should be to make every sand nigger an outcast. Boycott kebab and bakeries businesses and refuse to give mudshits the treatment people usually get in your country. Next is to make them feel unsafe, means starring, spitting, pushing, shouting, taking every discussion over political, social and others problems to the point where muslim seem as a part of the problem. Also Breiveks welcome I guess. The goal should be to create a climate in which sand people are in a constant focus by society, which should result in pogroms in 5 to 8 years, hopefully earlier
We run away. Seriously, it's the only thing that might actually work. Get all the redpilled whites, and have them relocate to a place far away from the systems that are currently fucking us up the asshole.
One option would be Greenland, but we'd have to deal with Denmark. Another one would be Antarctica (Mary Byrd Land is still unclaimed).
There's no democratic way to fix this mess because the leftists + their guests will always vote in their own interests. So it's either running or a civil war - and the latter doesn't really have a high chance of success.
Brody White
Indeed,
The major difference between the west in general and the muzzie world is that already a significant portion of the population is pushing back against our own mental virus of the regressive left, with the next generation predicted to be more conservative than ever.
Meanwhile VIRTUALLY NO ONE in the muzzie world even acknowledges the massive problems with the mental virus AND the genetic degradation. It might be too late for them even.
Samuel Lewis
unless we break up the leftists (like is happening) and they turn on themselves (which is happening)
>bernie >hillary >perez
Mason White
Fuck off dude. He's talking about from the ground up. Step one. How do you convince a bunch of cucked traitorous fucks like Sweden to build a wall when they think it virtuous to get muzzied and blacked, despite obvious negative consequences for doing so?
The memes worn off. We have Francis and increasingly atheist Protestants. Propose a Christian strategy.
Zachary Ramirez
>So it's either running or a civil war or baiting lefties so hard they try to attack the government like in the '20s and let them delegitimate themselves. You just need to vote FP and VP, the rest will happen a week later
Hunter Hughes
I'm all for denying them any gimmedats and going for the final solution at least locally.
My point is they'll destroy themselves and their nations eventually anyway. Ultimately once the oil runs out.
Wyatt Perez
finally someone who gets it.
We need a movement.
An ideology.
A broad name
a concept like volksgemeinschaft that goebbels implemented.
Jose Jackson
>Extra point >the less taxes you pay the less gibsmedat for outsiders. Then their gibs will be paid from debt; have fun having kids that'll be burdened with that kind of future, whitey.
The entire system is set up to kill off K-selected groups. Just create the right environment and they'll stop having kids because having kids would be the retarded thing to do.
Logan Jenkins
And once they're delegitimized then what? >vote We already failed at that, user. We're past the point of where making your X next to the right name is going to fix things.
Christopher Morgan
There is too much programming. We'd have to simultaneously take or nullify media AND education throughout the west.
Not bad. In US, we're already seeing old guard dems vs justice dems. Not sure what'll happen, but the justice dems of moral superiority and a right to succession in the eyes of many-but the old guard has all of the resources and key positions.
I'm thinking about moving to Russia myself. Eastern Europe is the last bastion of real Europa.
Aiden Bailey
exactly the point of this post.
Evan Ward
I think the awakening in America will un-cuck it,
AGAIN
We need a broad term
Not the Church of Kek
We need something.
Like the Great Awakening.
The Last Great Crusade
but it has to be something palatable.
That the lefties won't jump on.
A politically neutral term that can encompass all of this.
Jacob Morris
Keep on red pilling the masses, make sure they vote in right wing politicians that get rid of the scum, after this is done proceed with more extreme red pilling so that we get more extreme right wing politicians in charge. It's either this or if voting in right wing politicians fails I guess we have no other option besides civil war.
Benjamin Thomas
Green Shirts
Austin Russell
i agree
again this we need a term
and a solid iedology
Asher Perry
I mean yeah.
i like it.
but
green shirts >brown shirts
too close.
won't make it.
Grayson Sullivan
>My point is they'll destroy themselves and their nations eventually anyway. And my guess was you see the potential human capital that just needs to get brainwashed and can be used as cheap slave labour. My point is that cant be done with muzzies, they have no potential needed beside being slaves in oil dictatorship countries, and even their they manage to fuck it up. The only solution for the muslim problem is to kill ALL muslim and remove the memes from the koran and the hadiths and other sand nigger narratives from the pool of human memes for all eternity. Unfortunately your numbers speak the truth about voting. The hope would be to meme them into arming themselves and fight against the evil elites from politic and economy getting shot in the streets and put into jail after that. but probably wishfull thinking, should start practice Danish desu.
Logan Robinson
if that would work there would be no blacks in america
Kevin Walker
Kekstapo
Elijah Clark
You're right. It has to do a few things. First, and most important, we need an international movement. This is the one thing the left has been beating us on for over the past century. Conservatives especially in America are too easily distracted. >Legacy Media:"Oh look, a Russian sub!" >Conservatives: "Get my shotgun, time to kill some fellow traditionalist conservative white men!"
Second, we need to remove the flaccid description of "conservative". It doesn't conserve anything, and it doesn't provide any direction forward.
Lefties brand themselves as revolutionaries and us as reactionaries-as if our only purpose is to stop them. We are the evolutionaries, our policies an extension of what is natural and planted firmly in our roots. Lefties are the true reactionaries, opposing everything we've stood for, for millennia.
Third, we need to emphasize values-not technical policies. Values like spirituality, defensive militarism, manliness as a virtue(something Mosley and Mussolini did).
Just my opening thoughts. Feel free to add anybody
Jaxon Ramirez
PepeSS
Jeremiah Wright
yep.
i was posting in this thread too.
it got archived. this is what Pol needs needs to be talking about day in and day out.
less of this bitching shit.
we saw our ideas, memes, and concepts make it to the forefront. somehow this retarded website is doing something,
Carson Sanchez
>England is muzzie world "No". Now go import more ficki ficki for Mama Merkel like a good shitskin you are.
Jaxon Kelly
I'm all for empiricism. That's why banishment/local purge is the only alternative along with the end of foreign aid.
For both. Then nature can figure out the rest.
James Collins
it needs to be
ok Sup Forums
how do we work on x in the y movement.
how do we fix z in the y movement.
how do we garner support for t in the y movement.
Asher Gonzalez
this is productive.
Jaxon Kelly
Kill the Jew
And the body of the beast will be much easier to remove.
Levi Morales
You know what is fucking crazy bro? Like, we have sex and shoot sperm, which is soft, into a womans vagina and it goes into an egg, another soft object, and makes a fucking skeleton, which is hard...... Thats crazy man
Jose Wood
nice trips
what the fuck are you talking about faggot?
Jeremiah Johnson
>Not staying in America for it's collapse >Only country that can effectively end worldwide judaism
If (((America))) falls and the right people make the right plays, we can end the subversion worldwide.
Easton Clark
I'm saying it's weird that two soft things can make something hard
Owen Cruz
And this solves our problems how exactly?
Mason Miller
pointless in regards to this conversation. please see yourself the fuck out.
Joseph Perry
Well a solid beginning would be introducing christianity back into Europe. Ever since more and more people became atheist society got more and more degenerate (feminism, transgender, gay marriage etc) and because of feminism men want less and less to do with marriage and raising children (since women have all the power from taking half your shit and child alimony for life in marriage to falsely accusing you of rape and getting away with it not to mention them acting like sluts) which results in incredibly low birthrates and sky high divorces.
Lincoln Clark
basically. honestly seems like a plant to derail this fucking great thread.
Jose Morgan
You have to admit, it kind of kaboodles your guys noodles, right?
Liam Fisher
there will be violence no matter what happens, doesn't necessarily have to be genocide, but people will be removed by force, whether they are end up dead or not is ultimately up to them
Evan Price
>but it has to be something palatable.
That's the most important thing.
I'll take a look.
You would think, as frustrated as our people are here, they would have the wits to organize themselves and their ideas. No one to blame but themselves when things don't get done.
Britain is far more cucked than Italy. Read the news. Be constructive or gtfo, stfu, and kys.
Kayden Watson
>cultural transformation
its called genocide you cuck.
John Wright
Wasted quads
Adam Ramirez
paramilitary death squads sanctioned by friendly governments decapitate the head and the body cannot retaliate effectively of course this cannot happen for some time in the meantime
Aaron Sullivan
Send them all to Australia
Juan Perry
Vestal Clubs.
Get a bunch of White men and women of various degrees of redpilling, pair them up, have them fuck. The women all act as stay at home moms flicking each other's beans and helping take care of their children, while the men work.
Then each couple just has, say, 8 kids. Multiple women helping each other (and living near each other) allows them to distribute labor, and it also ensures the men can keep food on the table, have steady employment, and have enough money to support their wives.
Give the whole thing a pagan vibe, loading it with classical imagery and a vaguely religious experience. The oldest woman can even have a staff with a pine cone on it, like the priestesses of the Eleusian Mysteries used to do.
5 couples in one club each making 8 kids is 40 children. That's a classroom. 5 groups of 5 across a town is 900 kids.
Whatever ideology or twists and turns the future holds are irrelevant. Having White people and our various cultures continue to exist is what matters.
>P-Pagan?! That's anti-Semitic you stupid racecuck! You can load it with Saints and shit if you want to. The point is to create a pseueo-ethnoreligion within the White populace that is acting to make more Whites and raise them properly. We want to separate ourselves from Semitism as much as possible, and that means dropping Yeshua. The actual symbolism is irrelevant, and mostly exists to create a sense of unity; the second and third generations can find meaning in them. I'm not saying we need to larp as Bure Aryan Nordig Viking Warriors :---DDD, but a move towards Shinto (an ethno-cultural-religioys foundation) is what we should be looking towards; especially a reincorporation of the classics.
The decentralized nature and the whole "having kids" thing keeps out feds and nogs. Groups that take in nogs will naturally fail.
Oliver Watson
initially hitler just wanted to remove the jews, but once the jewish interest lead britain and france declaring war on his people, he realized that death was the final solution, and the only one that would solve the problem. It's up to the left, and the jews to decide if they want that to be the solution, and if it's an american implementing this solution it will succeed no matter who stands against us.
Alright sorry. I saw the skulls and thought about that.
You honestly have to control the culture overall (music, film, cuisine etc) and normalize the pride that is European. You must find a way to do this without them even knowing.
Levi Rodriguez
well exactly.
i agree completely.
what i am saying though is it is on a curve.
There is a certain sweet point that you will hit.
Where it is accepted.
You have to find the exact right spot to where you can affect change with the least resistance.
Kind of like flying.
A certain amount of lfit and drag to perform adequately in flight.
Too much drag and you don't lift off.
too much lift and you can't control it.
we need something that can shred off enough resistance but still be radical enough to gain enough support... but not so radical that it never takes off. as you increase (its on a curved slope) you can increase the radicalism. but too much too soon ruins it.
David Thompson
I propose we redraw the border of Europe to start at Poland/Czech Republic and end at Belarus.
France, Austria, Germany, Spain etc are all fucked and shouldn't be considered effectively European ( in anticipation of demographic changes )
Lucas Foster
...
Ayden Wood
Try getting their retard politicians to part with muh diversity
Jeremiah Fisher
thank you.
and this and hey read this
Kayden Powell
First elect an anti-EU Prime Minister and a Anti-EU parliament (AFD, Golden Dawn, Le Pen etc.)
Then tell the EU to: 1. Kick Germany out (then close your boarders to Germany) 2. Stop their open boarders policy (Then close your boarders to Germany.) 3. If the EU won't do either fuck them, they have no "army" to stop you from leaving.
Another option is to get an AFD Parliament, although since Germany's political system is ruled by the CDU and SPD option one is more likely.
Eli Rodriguez
>divide and conquer OUT
Jaxson Phillips
no matter how fucked they become, it is our duty as fellow whites to liberate them from the muslim hoards
Anthony Nelson
There are more jews in America than Israel. The only chance you're going to get to name or to remove their influence is when their policies finally balkanize this country.
We definitely need our own forum. Something that can moderate people from shouting "shitskins" and actually construct traditionalism. That should be step one.
Aaron Morales
again volksgemeinschaft
nazi cultural policy.
Connor Watson
This sums it up nicely.
Jason Fisher
>First elect And when that fails? You're assuming that there's a majority of people that aren't cucks when there's no basis for that assumption.
Joshua Foster
thank you.
that is why I get so fucking annoyed with these idiots
>genocide >death squads >extreme shit
It will never work. Does as much damage to the cause as the people who oppose us.
I think I was born to do this shit. time to get into politics.
Jaxson Peterson
Finally Sup Forums is discussing grand strategy.
Blake Watson
don't forget their is military equipment and technology in these countries that is at stake. including intelligence services that the muzzies will eventually get to if they assimilate enough. we have to make sure that stops.
Nicholas Carter
You are welcome. Hopefully I go down in the history books for this one.
Sebastian Carter
*there
Chase Walker
How are we supposed to save people who don't want to be saved? Let Eastern Europe be the future of the white race. The Western nations are too cucked/infiltrated by (((them)))
Jack Martin
Closest thing to that is stormfront.org, which has good discussion and information but the stigma of it's ideas prevent any organizing.
Cooper Perez
Imagine if america and russia became allies, literally the entire rest of the world couldn't stand agaisnt those two together. It can be done if the mentality is right. If germany was twice as powerful as it was in WWII, they would have won and there would be no jews,
The US and Russian militaries are multiple times as powerful as the rest of the world combined.
Josiah Miller
fuck yeah now we just have to keep this clean a
oh wait
Ryder Moore
I agree. Not a forum though.
An organization.
if you do not have anything constructive to say please leave. we all understand the problems.
the point of this post was to say "Stop talking about how shitty the situation is let us fix it"
>leaf
Jordan Bailey
believe me it will get bad enough that they will want to be saved. They are just in denial right now, the Jewish propaganda can only convince them for so long
Charles Cruz
The real question is:
Even if Sup Forums nailed 3, 4 or 5 brilliant strategies to save the west, would it result in real political coordinated action? Would people here be willing to use their years doing that?
Ayden Richardson
been hoping for that one.
communism/socialism/dictatorship is bad.
some objective form of capitalism
Lincoln Powell
>How do you convince a bunch of cucked traitorous fucks like Sweden the exact same way the globalists did it: get control of most of the decision makers at major media outlets, and use the media in a coordinated fashion to apply our understanding of behavioral sciences toward the goal brainwashing them to do what you want. and speak of the devil himself... >a concept like volksgemeinschaft that goebbels implemented.
Parker Edwards
That's nice, user - until you start thinking about who runs both those countries.
