Hey burgers, I was wondering : how is that guy nowadays seen in America...

Hey burgers, I was wondering : how is that guy nowadays seen in America ? Is his heritage and the McCarthyism taught positively or not ?

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we all learn about him when we read the crucible in high school and we are told about the dangers of witch hunts in social stuides etc.

McCarthy ism. I've heard it mainly used as an attempt to discredit by leftist, and as a Yeah But by right wing personal ities. Cuz he was right

It's considered negative by most everyone, except some fiercely anti-communist groups.

Most burger normal faggots know nothing politically, even in a national sense. They simply know how to LARP politics effectively enough to not sound stupid to other normal faggots. They could be persuaded either way on most anything, including this. But its safe to assume that they may have heard of McCarthyism, and that it was bad. 3/4 of my textbooks on history railed against anti-Communism.

Pls check out my thread on the ongoing meme wars if you get a chance >114419847

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Everyone hates him for pushing Russian conspiracy htoeries


Today you are universally seen as a good liberal for pushing Russian conspiracy theories.

Ironically at least McCarthy (eventually) turned out to be correct about some things

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Americans_in_the_Venona_papers

he was wrong about a lot of things

Largely it was because he was the victim of counter intelligence, but he also simply wasn't a professional intelligence officer and couldn't accurately asses the intel that former CIA people were giving him. He was just a senator after all.

Dulles spun McCarhty (supplie dhim flase info) and played him like a fiddle

McCarthy was allied with ex-CIA officers who were enraged that the CIA refused to prosecute known communist spies

Most high school history won't even cover him. University will cover it and it's exclusively negative. Literally those poor hollywood commie kikes dindu nuffin'... but really in hind sight and seeing just how obviously red hollywood and left is today, it was there all along.

McCarthy was a true american patriot who gave our country another 50 years of freedom.

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all the current conspiracies about "russia hacking the election" are seen as mccarthy-esque by regular liberals

otherwise, most Americans don't know or care who he is

It's interesting how intricately the reds analyzed anti-communist groups, then applied ideological subversion to social structures where these groups had no influence. They actively sought out social institutions which were supposed to be impartial, and tried to demoralize them first, especially academia.

>Most high school history won't even cover him. University will cover it and it's exclusively negative. Literally those poor hollywood commie kikes dindu nuffin'... but really in hind sight and seeing just how obviously red hollywood and left is today, it was there all along.
>le communist Hollywood conspiracy

I see. Kek even in our history class in France, in high school, we have a short focus about him about the cold war

>What is ideological subversion

>McCarthy was a true american patriot who gave our country another 50 years of freedom
I thought freedom of speech and freedom of association were true american values?

didnt macarthy take a shit on all that because of muh reds under muh beds ?

Negatively. They basically teach that he was on a "witch hunt" for communists in the film industry and imply that these communists never existed.

No. Liberal education means that any commie witch hunting is frowned upon.

He was literally one of our most based senators that actually was a decent patriot.

this is all on the CIA web page btw


cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol48no3/article07.html


It's just common sense

You take something everyone assumes is unbiased (academia, media) and then make it incredibly biased while at the same time maintaining the pretense of those institutions remaining unbiased.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_influence_on_the_peace_movement

public schools teach it as McCarthy being a bad guy picking on poor old hollywood (jews) and politicians (jews)

How ironic, that it's basically the left's ideological foundation to talk about the Russian hackers, while I personally am a Russian hacker AND deny that Russian hackers exist.

Really makes you think.

In around 11th grade they taught it in literature class no less, as we watched a movie about the salem witch trials haha.
Even in AP US History and AP Gov it was barely talked about.
They mainly attempted to indoctrinate us by comparing it to the witch hunts of the puritan era, and talked about all the negative violence and distrust it cause.

>I thought freedom of speech and freedom of association were true american values?

Being a communist agent isn't an American value.

Basically what McCarthy did was take information he had from ex-CIA agents and use that to build a case in congress to make and official investigation.

Congress can call anyone it wants during a hearing so he called up all the people fingered by ex-CIA agents (typically communists in Hollywood)

Then those communists either named names or refused to talk (meaning they're in contempt of court)

There is literally nothing in the constitution that says you're allowed to be a communist agent supplying information to the USSR.

>didn't mccarthy (attempt to suppress) freedom of speech/association

If you listened to the hollywood kikes they said they weren't red or even socialist... it's wasn't illegal to say these things or identify/associate as communist at any point, there are/were actively pro-communist groups even then, the whole thing is they were saying they weren't when they were and using to propagandize on tv/radio (which they were), just like they do today with cultural marxism as I hope you realize.

youtube.com/watch?v=wljpYZ8wejA&t=68s

Check out this detailed McCarthy presentation by Molymeme! McCarthy was an american hero and the commie left hates him for it.

Nobody acknowledges he was right.
He gets blamed for HUAC, which he had nothing to do with.

>Being a communist agent isn't an American value.
But allowing political ideas you don't like is.

>Reading the Crucible
>Reading

When I was in high school we just watched the movie version.
Same thing with The Great Gatsby (the shitty new one I might add) and Animal Farm. Although I read it myself because I like George Orwell.

I graduated in 2014, it's probably more fucked up now.

inb4 no communist spies in the US

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_spies

"spying" is not an "idea"

It's espionage for a foreign power that was at the time attempting to overthrow the country.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Americans_in_the_Venona_papers

>refused to talk (meaning they're in contempt of court)
how does that work with the 5th amendment of your constitution? I thought that was what gave you the right to silence?

McCarthyism is a slur, and he's used as a strawman for fear-mongering and character assassination on baseless claims.

Despite the evidence coming from declassified intel vindicating him, they just ignore it or if ever pressed they'll say, "Well there's no way he could have known, he didn't have access to it!"

To normies, McCarthy=Bad man.

Best video on McCarthy -- can be a redpill for many:

youtube.com/watch?v=wljpYZ8wejA

5th amendment only applies to self incrimination

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress

It doesn't apply to refusing to give information about crimes that would incriminate other people.

see: mob movies when low level mobsters go to jail for refusing to give information that would put higher up mob bosses in jail.

Pretty much this. Americans get a lot of their political knowledge through social queues in our entertainment and news media. In other words, they get a leftist and to an extent jewish worldview. It's really kind of pathetic.

Fuck Arthur Miller, traitorous faggot.
I fucking hate normies, a SENATOR cannot be on the HOUSE Committee of Unamerican Activities. Grinds my gears too m8.

The new standards of education not to frustrate the dumbs people ?

Yeah bro, it's a fucking joke.

Colleges have remedial classes for incoming freshmen from math to English, it's a sick fucking joke.

That's why they're often called Diploma mills, they don't do shit but make sure you graduate.

Nobody wants to fail people because then their stats look bad and people would be held accountable for not doing their fucking job, or parents would have to accept they're selfish shitheads who neglected their children.

(((Arthur Miller)))

I see, it's pretty the same here, everyone has to be on the same level and shit