Washington (CNN)Bill Owens, the father of the Navy SEAL killed in a late-January raid in Yemen, leveled biting criticism at the White House and called for an investigation into his son's death in a news story published Sunday.
Owens told The Miami Herald that as his son William "Ryan" Owens' body made it to Dover Air Force Base outside Washington, he was told President Donald Trump was coming to meet him and his wife to pay his respects. But Owens told the chaplain he didn't want to see the commander-in-chief.
"I told them I didn't want to make a scene about it, but my conscience wouldn't let me talk to him," Owens told the newspaper. Owens, himself a veteran, raised a number of questions about the raid itself. "Why at this time did there have to be this stupid mission when it wasn't even barely a week into his administration," the paper quoted him as asking.
>a week into Trump presidency >president launches failed mission that kills scores of civilians and makes your son KIA
JUST
Lucas Ramirez
ahh yes, the ((((navy seals))))
Nathan Allen
Seems pissed that his son died. But surely he must realize Trump didn't mark up a map in yemen himself and this was planned for a long time? No one is that dense.
Nolan Cook
Navy Seals know what they are getting into when they sign up... How many Navy Seals died while Obama was in office and noone gave a shit. A mission with 1 casualty, intel that saved many more innocent lives is successful in my book.
Saged
Robert Turner
well he approved the mission.
a massive loss for someone who brags about "winning"
Austin Allen
>intel that saved lives
HAHAHAHA CITATION NEEDED FAGGOT
scores of innocents died and nothing was gained the mission was a failure in every way.
Angel Torres
Basically this. Just more of the media trying to bring down Trump.
Joshua Taylor
Well in all fairness what I remember Obama did too but they had to wait for no moon night.
And the reason for a "loss" is that a seal died but I also read they secured a lot of intel in raid.
Michael Sanders
Don't sign up for a sham war if you're not ready to be killed
Matthew Peterson
Since when does losing a soldier on a mission make it a "loss"? When you sign up to be a soldier, you sign up to be canon fodder. That's part of the job.
Levi Davis
Did no special operators die during the obama admin?
Jack Campbell
Can't anyone see this is a shariablue thread by OP samefagging? Sage and move on.
Tyler Reyes
the fact that the mission failed in every way makes it a loss
Liam Miller
Did they switch his sons' application to the Cub Scouts with one to the Armed Forces when he wasn't looking and then he signed it?
Brayden King
How did it fail? They were trying to get intel, right? They got it.
Michael Campbell
>Trump goes forward with investigation >Turns out John McCain sold intel about the mission to Yemenis >McCain is arrested and executed for high treason
Julian Perez
One less welfare queen
Jonathan Jackson
It's an operation Obama planned and intentionally set up to fail to blame Trump
Cameron Fisher
Things genuine people say to newspapers: "I don't want to make a scene."
Wyatt Ross
No they did not get intel. The "intel" they said they got were videos that had been out for years.
Mason Bailey
>muslims in a radical islamist compound >innocents Yeah, no.
Noah Jones
t.Shill
Aiden Bell
IIRC, that is just what was publicly released to showcase the findings.
How can you be pissed that your son was KIA as a SEAL? Don't they tell anyone who graduates buds that their chances of seeing their 30th birthday are at best like 50%?
What a faggot and an embarrassment to his son. Not to mention the fact that Trump probably had absolutely nothing to do with planning or greenlighting the mission, but that's beside the point.
Luis Wright
I have sympathy for him raging at the funeral though. High emotions and you want to blame someone.
Charles Harris
I don't think he would have met with Hillary or Obama either, sometimes when you're grieving the last thing you want to do is political stuff.
Hunter Ross
Sounds like the AQAP leader was the primary target and Trump was hoping to score a Zero Dark Thirty moment early in his administration. You don't send SEAL Team Six out for fucking intel.
Imagine if the Osama raid ended with him getting away, a bunch of civilians dead, a SEAL dead, an Osprey crashed and the Obama admin saying it was a success because they gathered some very valuable intel.
Luis Rogers
On the news they said it was planned under Obama but greenlighted by Trump.
Bentley Johnson
>says he doesn't want to make a big scene about it >does major media interviews grandstanding against Trump
this guy is a fucking faggot
Levi Morales
I am exhausted after 8 years of obama of framing everything as good or bad for obama.
Now its worse and getting worse daily.
i wonder what will get things back to normal. it was never this bad with Bush 1 or Clinton. Bush 2 might have started it though.
Austin Perry
It's funny how the media cares about a soldier losing his life for the first time in 8 years.
William Hernandez
Don't forget the part where Obama and pals advertised it all to Yemen and the entire operation's details had been leaked beforehand.
Tyler Flores
What if his son dying have something to do with him being incompetent himself, always easier to blame others, especially for parents - Many such cases
Landon Johnson
Remember that time 40 seal team 6 members died in Afghanistan in a helicopter rocket attack
Obama resigned the next day out of shame
Ethan Baker
>CNN
Yeah, like I'm going to believe that shit.
Ayden Martin
His son knew the risk and honored the mission. We should understand and accept the regrets family members have while grieving. Sad to see this politicized.
Dominic Ross
The "civilians" were the families of the terrorists. It's the same as when Osama was killed; they gunned down women and kids too.
1 KIA is small fries considering that several Al-Q leaders were taken out.
its unfortunate and i understand the guys devastated but this is literally what they sign up for
Gavin Gutierrez
No one cared when Obama's surge in Afghanistan failed and got thousands of US troops killed
He still got his Novel prize
David White
>browse thread >BUT BUT BUT OBAMA
Logan Martin
>You don't send SEAL Team Six out for fucking intel. Who do you send?
Xavier Lewis
Yeah and nobody on a nepleane image board cared when trump continued those illegal wars.
Christian Cruz
I think saying "what about obama" is valid at least for a few more months. Its good for pointing out hypocrisy.
Carter Hernandez
>nothing was gained under this logic a high level intel worker post their secret findings on a shitposting site
Christian Morris
Remember when trump was the abri war candidate who would end the illegal wars overseas?
Alt right = neocons who don't call them seleves neocons
Jason Jones
what a rat.
I wonder how much cash he just made for selling out. kike faggot.
Connor Hall
Oh it's (((CNN)))
No wonder you didn't link it. FAKE!
Juan Sanders
How does this answer my question?
Julian Rodriguez
This. All day long.
Camden Garcia
if we leave china and iran gets it
move to spain if you want a country that isnt worried about being in charge
Owen Foster
I dont like trump , but complain for a navy seal doing their job like following order like good drones they are is pretty dumb.
David Price
Concept of this raid were made under Obama. Details of attack planned under Trump. Obama did not want detail planning to go forward after he saw concept. Trump was looking for the glory and attention when he ordered this mission. He fucked up because the plan was rushed.
Jordan Murphy
>sign up to die for Israel >"WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DID YOU LET MUH SON DIE FUCKING DRUMPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!"
Eli Gutierrez
> son honorably signs up to be apart of the most dangerous special forces group on the planet. With 15% of SEALs dying before their 35th birthday. > Sons dad gets all butthurt when his son is killed in the line of duty. A risk that was well known to the family. Somehow tries to blame Trump.
> Golly gee, I'm sure Hillary would have never gotten any soldier killed. This is all Drumpfkins fault!
I understand the dad is emotional, but trying to find someone to blame for his sons death is just not possible. The only person he can truly blame for his sons death is his son, for volunteering for such a dangerous job, and the terrorist that shot him.
Acting like Trump purposely killed your son is just stupid.
Also
> Why did a raid occur just one week into the adminstration!
This guy clearly doesn't understand how special operations, let alone Naval Special Warfare, works. Which is shocking since his son was involved in that line of work.
This operation was in progress since the Obama administration. Trump was just president when the raid occured.
Julian Torres
Google Chris hedges, Glenn greenwood, Jeremy scahil
Left wings who took the red pill knew Obama was republican lite. Trump is now bush on steroids. When we invade Iran you will be begging for leftist support.
Nathaniel Hughes
>Using your SEAL sons death to parade a political point Liberals should be fucking gassed
Eli Rivera
Not even Ron Paul ever objected to killing AL Qaeda
Gabriel Cook
>media trying to bring down Trump. Why is Trump always the victim?
Caleb Hughes
I feared war with Hillary more than Trump by a lot.
John Wright
Again why did you fucktards act like trump was anti war?
Trump is just continuing the same bullshit forgein policy of us imperalism.
Josiah Thompson
Your son signed up to be a hired gun in exchange for money and a lifetime of admiration. He rolled the dice and lost, there are plenty of pointless military operations. Get over it, maybe you should have dissuaded him from joining, don't blame trip though.
Justin Sanchez
>Why is Trump always the victim?
he was elected instead of their bestie they wanted to win
Charles Foster
Faggot boomer father sullying his hero son's name.
Nicholas Ward
his dad sounds like a terrorist
Jonathan Morgan
So you ok with Saudi war in Yemen trump supports? War in Syria and Iran? One Israel apartied state?
Colton Adams
The dad also looks like a major liberal hippie from the 60s.
Like some Uber liberal college professor chanting "FUCK DRUMPF!".
Anthony Howard
No Muslim is innocent
David Gomez
It seems more like a routine raid that happens a couple times a month.
Adam Flores
the raid in Yemen was against Al- Qaeda you stupid faggot. That is a global terrorist organization...
Carson Bell
Hillary wanted the US to support a no fly zone in Syria. And had that retarded comment about retalitory military strikes against hackers.
Hillary was a war monger. I would have considered Bernie but your team trotted out the right wing dem nominee.
Liam Jones
Meanwhile we support and arm a country that is fighting the side that is fighting al-Queda in Yemen. Really makes you think.
Dominic Evans
you mean the WAR ON TERROR the neocon war your butt buddie gwb started illegally in 2001?
Again alt right is neocon rebranding
Lincoln Evans
>"Why at this time did there have to be this stupid mission when it wasn't even barely a week into his administration," the paper quoted him as asking. it was planned months ago under the obama administration, why is nobody educating him?
David Hernandez
Bernie " White people must apologise for slavery and pay reperations" Sanders
Angel Peterson
>How many Navy Seals died while Obama was in office and noone gave a shit.
A whole Chinook full of them died. Remember? Where was the outrage then? Most of those men were veterans of the Osama Bin Laden raid.
Oh right, the story saw maybe a minute on national television and they were back to covering for Barack's ass.
Jason Brooks
>It seems more like a routine raid that happens a couple times a month. Surely you know you just made this up?
Lucas Bennett
> Muslims arnt the bad guys! Islam is the religion of peace! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! White people and Drumpf are the devil! Killing innocent peaceful Muslims.
Amazing. I feel like I've heard this argument from somewhere... Oh yeah, college liberal professors.
Joshua Parker
Why blame Trump and not the military guys who organized this shit show?
Matthew Roberts
Again not addressing trumps war crimes
Must resort to other people not currently president
How do you feel about the arms deal trump made with Saudi Arabia?
Brandon Cook
was in afg when that happened.
i remember obama declaring everything a loss and brought us all home
Aaron Mitchell
totally not paid to throw a hissy fit over this.
Cameron Murphy
> Most of the seals killed in the Chinook where apart of the UBL raid.
That's not true.
GOLD TEAM took down UBL.
RED TEAM was the ST6 group that was involved with the Chinook.
None of the seals killed in the Chinook were involved with the UBL raid.
Carson Stewart
"Failed" 18 terrorists were killed.
People die in war, get over it.
Cooper Clark
Did you even read what I said nigger? We're arming a fucking wahabi state (Saudi Arabia) that is killing Houthi Yemenis who would otherwise be kicking Sunni scum out of their country. Without this fuckery we wouldn't even need to send these guys in.
Brandon Barnes
>BUT PAY NO ATTENTION TO TRUMP SUPPORTING SAUDI ARABIA
alt right fags are just necons who can't come out of the closet about their neoconservatism. Everyone on here would gwb if you were alive at the time.
Jason Reyes
....about as good as I did when Obama did it?
I would support a constitutional amendment to block all arms sales unless to democracies that meet human rights guidelines. But to be upset at Trump and not Obama is hypocritic. You may have done both but I didn't notice it by anyone on the left.
Ryan Gonzalez
> Trumps war crimes
Top kek! Holy shit. CTR has arrived.
Grayson James
No. There are raids like this all over Syria. Iraq, and Africa the past few years. Some fail. Some succeed. Some you hear about. Some you don't.
Caleb Butler
My bad then, must of remembered wrong.
Josiah Ward
What innocents died exactly?
John Murphy
Ok how is killing civilians on a war crime user? How is giving billions to regimes like Saudi Arabia that kill gays, women, and fund terrorists not a crime?
Lucas Ramirez
Spooks
Dominic Anderson
> Why won't the USA just bomb Saudi Arabia
Because we need them to keep a balance of power to keep Iran at bay.
> Waaaaa!! Iran and Russia and China should take over the Middle East! Fuck the USA! Fuck Drumpf!
There is a difference between being a neocon, and not bending over for rivals of the US.
Samuel Perry
IS THIS GUY FUCKING RETARDED
OPS STILL HAPPEN DURING PRESIDENTIAL TRANSFERS
Blake Martinez
This. Have some fucking dignity. Your son died a brave soldier, respect that he made that sacrifice for a reason and STFU instead of complaining about the President to the media.
I can't imagine a WWII vet acting like this. Every generation since them has been shit. Both of my grandparents served in WWII overseas and they were hard as steel until the end.
