Why is it that a bag of saltwater that costs less than a dollar to make costs over $300

Why is it that a bag of saltwater that costs less than a dollar to make costs over $300.

Healthcare is expensive for absolutely no reason but price exploitation

How can we fix this?

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Why not just make it yourself, then?

there's nothing to fix, the market is working as intended

don't want it? don't buy it

>Why is it that a bag of saltwater that costs less than a dollar to make costs over $300.

It doesn't, it costs $91.00 like your picture says.

The incentives in our healthcare system are so perverse, thats why. Hospitals are for profit, insurance is for profit, the patient is the customer obviously, but has low visibility to pricing and little latitude to suggest considering cheaper alternatives. Beyond that, hospitals are often local monopolies, and even when theyre not, theyre local oligopolies that can very easily take advantage of the dynamics low transparency in pricing (almost no hospitals publish pricing information). And thats not even getting into the pharma industry, which rapes Murrica and subsidizes the pharma research for the globe. And beyond that, there is no incentive for hospitals or pharma to develop common sense cheaper alternatives or actual cures, maintenance meds/practices are much nore lucrative.
Its a thoroughly broken economic model for healthcare. Single payer solves much of these problems but is DOA with Murrican politics

Regulation, lawsuits and insurance.

Fix regulations and forced insurance.

jews making up (((regulations))) and making sure competition is non-existant.

this is one of the few times were regulations are being added that serve no purpose other than making sure you pay 300 for a bag of salt water.

Anything that's marked medical has 1000's of % markup just because it is marked medical

It would seem regulations could at least try to fic this sort of price gouging, but your right wing overlords have convinced you dumb fuckers that regulation is a dirty word. So nothin gonna get done ob that front any time soon

>don't want it? don't buy it
You may be required to buy it in order to not die. Health care isn't like buying a can of sausages you fucking dolt.

Social democracy

>It would seem regulations could at least try to fic this sort of price gouging,
So now you need price fixing... Lets take a look at Venezuela.

unregulated capitalism
removing juidges n lawyers by force

FDA approval process

You could very easily write a regulation that limits mark up to 1000%,you dont need a venezuala type situation to prevent this sort of gouging. Forcing hospitals to publish their prices and profits would also push for more equitable costs

Because there's so many alternatives right?

Where are the McHospitals undercutting prices and actually providing somewhat affordable health care?

You either pay or you die, or rather, your insurance is supposed to pay it.

>You could very easily write a regulation that limits mark up to 1000%,
There are ways around that. We need more companies that can make those products but the start up costs and regulation are prohibitive.

>Why is it that a bag of saltwater that costs less than a dollar to make costs over $300.
Jewery. Also, it's $91 and not over $300.
>1000CC NORM SALINE IN .9; SOLUT .9NACL 1000ML = 91.00

Don't go to the ER for nonemergecy shit then. It's called urgent care. I can tell by your bill that this was for a gastro issue. You weren't gonna die or lose a limb.

>saltwater
saltwater that's perfectly ph neutral and completely ok to put into your fucking bloodstream
yeah no big deal you could probably cook that up on your stovetop right
how hard could it be

Blame the poor and stupid. They don't pay their hospital bills and use the ER where I work as their PCP. We're required by law to help them since we're not for profit.

Freedoms sure are expensive.

Theres already competition in medical supply companies. Its the hosptials price gouging on that. Pharma does it too of course when they have patent protections.

To add on my point you are a dumbass.

Liability insurance for something like that is pretty high.

My crocodile gimp suit was fucken exxy as

That's purified, sterile water that has the garuntee of being the right ratio, plus the plastic bag it came in, all setup to be compatible with a system that needs to be thoroughly sterilized every time with several parts being illegal to reuse, no matter sterilization procedures. You also have the hospital having to deal with the pharmacies, trying to tempt good doctors to work for you and care by giving them good wages, all the various staff, costs of medical research, legal defense costs, staffing, overhead, and loaning services to people who can't afford it and will even default on payment.

Even if there wasn't greed, it still wouldn't be cheap.

Have to make it to high purity, sterilize it, ship it, administer the IV etc etc.

It's $91 on that receipt.

how about just allow free market.....unregulated medical.....and tell lawyers fuk you when they try n sue.....send lawyer to guantanemo......replace with evidence based software

Just google sterile saline ivs. Google shows me 2 for $8...and hospitals probably get it as less than half that cause they buy that shit by the pallet

SINGLE.

PAYER.

HEALTHCARE.

Means that companies actually have to compete to lower prices and win contracts.

>mffw he is probably looking at contact solutuion

It's artificial. Basically the costs are adjusted to keep a hospital in the black. Poor stupid people using a hospital either without insurance, coming in after there's maggots in the wound, waiting twenty years for the colonoscopy that finds the giant tumor, and all around being more expensive to care for.

Not only are th costs at hospitals outrageous, but Obama care is basically causing young people and healthy families to subsidize the poor, unhealthy, and sick.

Both through premiums/raised deductibles and through taxes.

They are more likely to use the er, not do check ups, not engage on preventive care, smoke drink do drugs have unprotected promiscuous sexy with people with sti's, be obese, bad diet, no exercise. Basically they suck at health and cost the most. They contribute the least.

"It's a right and the right will pay for it"

Fuck Bernie and his idealogue retard fanbase

Someone's gotta cover Jose and Maria and their 10 kids. They sure as hell can't be expected to pay their own bills.

End the Fed to stop the never ending credit line and services will have to compete on price. Also make insurance illegal for any common service and reserve insurance only for catastrophic events.

I say fuk it
private charity cover em
de regulate so docs cheap
boto insurnace cronie parasites
boot admins
boot corny expensive software
de reg machine manufacture so cheapr n plentiful

Because you are paying for all the under privileged freeloaders who didn't pay.
Also, because the insurance company insists that bag of salt water be insured for your safety and that's what insurance said it costs.

Because hospitals have to make back the money from the tens of millions who don't pay.

Wouldnt universal coverage fix that problem?

A bag of 'salt water' is actually purchased individually for around $7.50 (AU) here in Australia. I found a few on sale here on eBay so I don't imagine it's subsidized by the government heavily or at all. ebay.com.au/itm/like/292032607451

As for America I am gonna assume that IV therapy is a process and not simply a bag of fuckin water

>pay for water
>wages of orderly/stores guy moving fluids to fluid place
>nurses/doctors administering
>room/board in hospital
>electricity
>needles

I work in ortho and the most expensive shit I have seen are implants that cost $12 000

Because insurance is broken.

The reason why it's so expensive is because the hospital knows that they aren't billing you, they're billing Blue Shield, or Kaiser Permanente, or whatever health insurance you've been paying into. They know that those companies will be able to foot the bill, so they overprice all their services until it becomes ridiculous. And if your insurance refuses to pay, then they put you on a payment plan or recommend you to different loan services.

If it was all government subsidized, then it would be even worse because the jews who run those hospitals would have their shekel senses tingling constantly, because everyone knows that it's easier to get the government to foot the bill for everything than another company who exists to make profit.

In short, the system is broken and unless we can have a fundamental shift in ethics in terms of hospitals we can't have nice things.

Get rid of the welfare state and abolish laws that force hospitals to treat people who have no money. In short, let the free market fix it.

did some more digging and this is retarted, for that exact photo OP has the cost of the administered IV for the hospital is $1 US per bag, the inflation is fuckin retarded

what? saltwater is ph neutral you retard

table salt is, this isnt true for all IV bags that use salt to buffer the pH of your blood you fuck stick