Just become a citizen, if you're gonna come into this country, come here legally!

>just become a citizen, if you're gonna come into this country, come here legally!
>people escaping their countries often have to spend over a decade and large sums of money just to become residents
>these immigrants happily do the minimum wage jobs that Americans won't do.
>more Mexicans have been leaving the US than entering for the past five years, leading to a significant net decrease
>Obama deported more immigrants than Bush
>undocumented immigrants would happily be legal if the process wasn't horrendously inefficient and expensive

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>orrendously inefficient and expensive
I'd be a doctor if it wasn't hard and expensive.

>Want to be a rocket scientist
>rocket science degrees are expensive and time consuming
>instead decide to forge a fake degree and credentials and illegally enter a rocket lab
>If my presence causes any problems, its the system's fault.

If it took your 27 to fulfill your prerequisites to become citizen, we don't need you. Hopefully trump exiles this obviously retarded shitskin

Immigration proccess is indeed too hard. But illegals bring a lot of problems, for example unpaid taxes. The main is that they already broke thr law once, so they will be probably ok to do it again.

Who cares?
We don't want more of them.
The terms are not theirs to determine and this is our homeland, not theirs.
Go fuck yourself faggot. You don't have a right to invite invaders into my home.

>undocumented immigrants

You mean illegal immigrants, right? Because they broke the law.

I'm so sorry it's difficult to get into one of the greatest countries in the world, should we also protest and do the same to the greatest schools in America? Can we all become undocumented students who go to classes without paying any money and cry about the application process and tuition being expensive and difficult because of their acceptance rate?

Shitty liberal argument. Go apply to other countries or improve your own instead of running away and leaving problems of your nation to people who aren't smart enough to solve them.

>takes 27 years to become citizen legally
>expect everyone to be ok with basically stealing it instead

Fuck legal immigration too. The 1965 immigration bill was the last nail in the coffin for white America.

Do you understand that it is UNNECRSSARY hard.

And every illegal cut him in line

>more Mexicans have been leaving the US than entering for the past five years, leading to a significant net decrease
Damn really?

Why does it take 27 years to legally immigrate to the US?

It also isn't a right. A country doesn't HAVE to let anyone in.

Yes, it doesnt have to, but it is better for economy.

Mexicans shouldn't come at all, and most shouldn't be given citizenship.
People from other countries can't just cross the border, but have to go through a rigorous process. They need to be of use to the US, and have a highly sought after education or the ability to take care of themselves financially.

You can't just immigrate because you want to move to another country.

I'd happily buy a super car if it wasn't so expensive.

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>>more Mexicans have been leaving the US than entering for the past five years, leading to a significant net decrease
yeah, the new big problem is central americans
OP is being intentionally dishonest

>muh economy

Fuck off

>Do you understand that it is UNNECRSSARY hard.

The english language is also unnecessarily hard, so we should advocate for undocumented words.

Obama did not deport as much of beaner as George Bush. He just told them mo at the border and classified that aa deportation. I only want rich smart Hispanics in America. The illegals and anchor babies have to go back.

Having a bunch of illegal minimum wage laborers doesn't create the economic benefit that you think it does.

There's already enough trash people born here, if you want to come in at least prove you're fucking valuable.

Are you serious?

27 fucking years? He must've fucked up along the way multiple times. My neighbor got hers in 5.

It doesn't

So what the fuck happens to a country who allows illegal immigration? 1 mil, 10 mil, 50mil, 100 mil, 200mil. Gz, USA now has a population of 700 million people, the economy went to shit, there are no jobs, everyone is poor, there are no resources left in the country and there is another billion of undocumented illegal waiting to enter.

Do any of those "no borders" liberal retards ever think about this?

>people escaping their countries often have to spend over a decade and large sums of money just to become residents
Yeah, idiot, we're a country, not a charity

Oh wow really? Why isn't Mexico an economic powerhouse then?

Actually immigration of low skilled labor just offloads the economic costs onto the government. You get cheaper labor, but you simultaneously have higher education costs, higher police costs, all kinds of social dysfunction that arises. And of course the welfare

This is not a net positive for the society, maybe for the wallets of the mega business owners. But it really fucks over the lower/middle class

And who is going to do all the dirty job then?

>come here legally
>>but its hard
>then don't come here
>> no

>The wait time is long so fuck having laws and shit.
Retards on the left are a special kind of retarded.

27 in the US, 26 of those behind bars.

Not to become a citizen. He got a a residence permit. Might not even be a permanent residence permit (Green Card)

>undocumented immigrants would happily be legal if the process wasn't horrendously inefficient and expensive
Boo fucking hoo. What, you think I'm just an autist who likes coloring within the lines? Explain to me why we should take in more unskilled immigrants.

The people of the country. Have more babies, don't cheat and bring people in from other countries

Teenagers

Even worse

You cannot just force people to have more babies.

>>people escaping their countries often have to spend over a decade and large sums of money just to become residents
That's designed to keep out the ones that don't really want to do it

But they dont want to.

I thought it was pretty clear that was a joke.

>you have to let me in because I want to come in
Part of legal immigration is our ability to refuse your third world ass

>people work very hard to become US citizens
>therefore we should reward the people who put in no effort and have no respect for our laws

really activates your almods

Liberals live in the now and don't give two shits about the future. Explains why millenials were so ready to throw gen z and future generations under the bus for their socialist faggotry. Which is funny. They'd be the new baby boomers.

t. yuppie

I actually want to see the deportation of all illegals and how the US economy will collapse after it.

Because minimum wage for a teenager is £5.55 for 18 year olds and fucking £4 for under 18.

4 fucking quid...

This Legal spics must fucking despise these illegal beaners

No, but you can encourage it.

Ever watch a TV show from the 1950's? It's full of family-positive themes. Cheaper-by-the-dozen was a popular show about the joys of a large family. The Rifleman's Son was a show about a father teaching his son how to be a man in a harsh world.

You may not realize this, but governments are currently enacting all sorts of policies to deliberately suppress birthrates. This came after the population scare in the 70's. For example, it's well known that when women go to college, their birthrates plummet. They have kids later, and only have 1 or 2 instead of 6 or 7. This is why there has been such a massive drive to get women into the education system, into high paying time-consuming careers, into degenerate lifestyles that ruin them for marriage....etc.

Wait
so you're saying
we'll have to pay people living wages to do these jobs?

Are we going to become Hungary and experience a crisis of increasing standards of living?

How would that happen? We'd save so much money and get some of these people easy to do jobs

>everyone deserves to live in a different country

made me think

The line would move a lot faster if we didn't have millions of illegals taking up space and jobs that legal immigrants could fill.

THAT'S(clap)WHY(clap)LEGALS (clap)GET (clap)PISSED (clap)AT(clap)ILLEGALS(clap)

>"Gee George, this American Revolution sure isn't working out quite like we planned we're getting our asses handed to us. Maybe we should just abandon the idea of freedom and set sail for France!"
>"You know John, that doesn't sound like a bad idea! Send word to Thomas and tell him to shred up that useless piece of trash he's been working on. Look out France, here we come!"

this is pretty much why Americans get upset about full grown men abandoning their countries like pussies while WE send our troops and money overseas to help THEM with their own fucking freedom. The average American worker (t. white male) has had enough of all the whining.

maybe there should be a national White Man's Day Off Day so you fucks would realize that kicking us while we're down is not a sound strategy.

No one just can afford to spend on unskilled labour more.

No, if there weren't mexicans, those jobs just wouldn't get done. Companies would rather crumble than raise wages for their positions right?

how's brexit going?

Fuck off, we're full.

american born ones sure do.

I bet he was in the US for those entire 27 years

>Comparing rocket scientist to an immigrant

27 years seems like bullshit. the longest I've heard is 10 years, and that's including the 5 year residency requirement.

Because those wages are being lowered by a mass influx of cheap labour (among other things)

I still hope it was a meme.

He has a -tism problem

Where will people and companies get money to pay for unksilled labour more than they pay now?

The economy went to shit because of bankers and subprime you fool, you already forgot what caused all these economic problems already, the rich cunts playing with other people money.

José didn't steal your billions he stole 10 dollars, some ivy league trader took millions a piece.

It was an intentionally cartoony illustration that some things should be hard and restrictive.

Instead of making our country shittier, maybe these people should come together and make their countries better. Most of these idiots come from countries with democratic governments, but yhey don't vote so nothing ever changes.

>undocumented imigrants
Tyrone selling crack is an undocumented pharmacist.

Now you are getting it.

can you stop with this minimum wage immigrant meme. these jobs were not meant for grown fucking men. they were meant to 15-16 year old teens wanting to get their foot in the door in a labor position to start saving for college/car.

They blatantly can

ITT: People who don't understand bureaucracy and aren't willing to understand bureaucracy feed tears to people who don't give a shit that you don't know how to fix your own damned problems.

I like the education argument because I would love to go to a great land of learning and opportunity but I am too poor and dumb.

You can't save the world, focus on those around you and your country

I bet you do, you filthy Polack.

Why do we need more people here?

How does unskilled uneducated immigration add value to america?

If the population of america were replaced with the population of south america, would it still be as successful?

But illegals in the US and refugees in the EU are literally around us.

The same way they're getting their money now.

We don't want anyone and everyone.
Becoming a citizen is a long and difficult process because we only want the people who can show that they will commit to it.

kys

Usually it's mexico who is being uncooperative as fuck and doesn't supply the necessary documents until you've asked 100x times.
You're not getting any citizenship unless they're sure you're not some drug dealer or worse.

THIS also the whole fact that pretty much EVERY president has been hard on illegals entering the border. I dont get liberal logic where they think we were living in this crazy world before Trump.

Oh fucking well, you're not entitled to living in this country.

Anyone who advocates for mass immigration, I advise you to visit California

Large sections of the state now look like Mexico. Little barrios and favelas, cracked pavement streets, garbage piled on the sidewalks, massive drug industry and crime rates.

Hispanic organizations are now openly bragging that they have control over most of the state's beaurocratic infrastructure. 1/4 of the California population lives in poverty.

White people are fleeing the state by the million. Going to places like Texas, Colorado, and the East Coast. Just as they fled from black immigration into the inner cities

60 years ago, Detroit was 90% white, and it had the highest median income in the world. It was a popular vacation destination for wealthy Europeans, and was known as "the Paris of the West". Today Detroit is 80% black, and looks like it was hit with a nuclear bomb. The murder rate is equivalent to post-war Zimbabwe, the literacy rate is below 50%. The infrastructure is failing, the electrical grid, the sewer system. It only survives off a constant stream of state and federal bailouts.

It's like an African city in the middle of the US, which is exactly what it is.

It's almost like you don't have a god given right to be here

Immigration is not a right, we don't want people coming to our country that don't improve it. I really don't care how long this guy was waiting if he wasn't a scientist or renowned doctor or successful businessman or something. We have plenty of people already, this isn't a charity. Fix your own country if you want your conditions to improve.

This, digits confirm truth

In a way, we're always debating on the left's ground, as if the premisse is that countries should allow people to get in and we defend that the country has the right to be restrictive in doing so. The entire premisse should be rejected

Anyone who goes to college does not have kids as early on, because they are intelligent. I could go knock a bitch up today, but I wouldn't be any better off. Marriage itself is a retarded institution. The only reason the family even exists is due to the larger heads of children over time, resulting in us bring an altricial species v.s. a horse that can just shit out a baby and start migrating the same day.

you must be confusing me for a libertarian

Couldn't he enlist to muhreens or something? I heard some user said its the easiest way to become citizen, true?

This. They are taking job that no one in their right minds would take. Granted the American worker is a douchebag. I dont get whats so hard about cleaning hotel rooms and doing other janitorial work but to be on a stupid farm for 8 hours a day forever for shit pay fuck that. Get a fucking machine to do all your work you cheap ass farmers.

The US does not have a way to even obtain a work VISA legally unless its an H1-B Visa which is 99% given to huge megacorporations who will then just get the cheapest workforce.

If you want to get rid of illegals but without damaging the economy make sure you have VISA's to actually obtain for low skilled workers.

>everybody always gets exactly what they want when they want it.

>Juan: mehico sucks, I will go and live in america
>America: Well look we have a lot of people wanting to move here and many of them are better qualified or more needy than you, we'd be within out rights to outright deny you but we'll put you on a waiting list and hopefully work something out
>Juan: ??? wtf FUCK YOU AMERICA how dare you enforce the sovereignty of your borders

No, it used to be men went to college, and had children as soon as they graduated.

In 1950 by the age of 21 the average man had:
>A car
>A house
>A wife
>A full time job
>A kid, and another on the way

Pushing women into college is retarded. Totally destructive to family formation. They aren't happy in the workforce anyway, studies consistently show that women who pursue careers are far less happy, less fulfilled, more stressed out...etc. Whereas men who pursue careers it's the opposite.

Here's what Hilter had to say about it:

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