Isn't White Nationalism just another form of collectivism? How can that be Right Wing?

Isn't White Nationalism just another form of collectivism? How can that be Right Wing?

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Why can't it be?

>What is the political compass?

right wing and left wing don't mean anything, just horseshit so you keep arguing over which politician is going to fuck your country up

This nigger is fag. I dont know why you edgy fuckers on here follow this moron. White this white that. Just shut the fuck up about race and lets focus of killing the left.

Because small government and collectivism don't go well together by definition.

you must be pretty boring person if you can only describe yourself as "left-wing" or "Right-wing" twat, be a racial centralist like Hitler was instead.

WN is only right wing in the sense that it is anti-immigration and socially conservative. Economically, most are left of center, they want protectionism, unions and gibs for native workers.

You cannot have individuality without a collective. Without a social environment humans are alienated and become superficial beings. We are tribal creatures that subconsciously trust others and participate in groups only as much as we identify with them. Look up "Bowling Alone."

Politics are almost completely divided on racial lines you idiot.

We also tend to become more collective when facing external threats such as loss of control of our nations due to jewish immigration policies.

Fascism is also collectivism.

Moderation in all things. White culturism is what should be protected.

You can't do that without white nationalism.

Fascism is collectivism based on race, rather than class as Communism is.

Authoritarianism is a meme

I was a classical liberal when I first started getting into politics in high school and early college. Once you realize that humans are a group animal and you value the preservation of your people and culture you will discard silly things like a religious adherence to capitalism and individualism.

no white nationalism is a form of self indulgence for degenerates who have nothing to feel good about themselves about
there seems to be a lot of "white nationalists" who like Asian women, Asian women who worship whites specifically
if they're white nationalists why do they not seem to want white children?

Fuck off Sargon.

Yes white men, forget about Pedro and Tyrone it's just the left we should worry about....

White nationalism is absolutely moronic. Pretty much all of the biggest cucks and degenerates in general are white. Why would you ever want them in your ingroup? They're poison.

White nationalists don't want small government

Because people who openly identify as "white nationalists" are bottom of the barrel males with very low market value.

I am white, and I think white nationalism is fucking retarded. Why should we preserve a pale skin mutation?

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well yeah, they're just lucky enough to meet a self hating asian woman
you'd think they'd be happy now, but they still seem to be obsessed with being white and hate mixed couples in front of their hapa children

>discard silly things like a religious adherence to capitalism and individualism

>Cambodia

I take it Pol pot is your hero, you complete moron

>You will never be gay and find a white national BF
>You will never do what gay ducks do which is chase females off after they give birth

Yeah, but don't go off the fucking hinge this time and shoot up right wing blacks. Because of the nature of this movement WE need to self censor.

>right wing blacks
Don't worry, it isn't possible shoot things that don't exist.

>right left dichotomy
this meme has far overstayed its welcome

t. shitskin

People like this will kill the movement before it starts. First worlders and moderates unite behind things like love and pride. Not hate and supremacy. If you want to win, you appeal in an effective manner. If we fail now, it's over. Trump and the populists have given us a final chance nobody thought we had to fight the elites.

Politics is a collective phenomenon. Any individualist political philosophy is not conservatism, it's a meme philosophy.

Individualism is not the only thing that people categorize with the semi-useless word right-wing.
Also there is the fact that many of their opponents are basically one world where "humans" are supposed to act together as "humans". White nationalism is still more individualistic than humanitarian globalism, so to speak.
Fascists are left wing trash though. I give the benefit of not conflating white nationalism with it unlike (((many))) do.

This photo of him is menacing, makes me schvitz. Good thing he's a total fag in real life.

Right wing =/= small government or individualist,

Absolute monarchies are the most right wing a government can get but are big government. They're also a form of collectivism where the people are essentially owned by the monarch, people unite under one person.

>Why should we preserve a pale skin mutation?
So you acknowledge the role that evolution played to end up with our current result of appearance?

It is retarded in the long run, but for now being white seems to be at least culturally speaking synonymous with advancing arts and sciences.

>hurr durr im an enlightened centrist

>Isn't White Nationalism just another form of collectivism
yes it is, but {{{they}}} don't want you to know that

Civilization is a form of collectivism.

t. civic nationalist

Group Identity isn't antagonistic to the individual unless you're some modernist shitheep.

Leftism is about egalitarianism, and the right is about hierarchy. There is nothing inherent in the right wing that necessitates a small government.
Besides the Left/Right divide is a failing concept, because Leftism is a failing concept. Once the political discourse is restored from the corruption of Egalitarian nonsense, then you can see that the right can exist in both large and small governments.

Keks of truth. Collectivization becomes a problem when the state tries to or does manipulate the will of the individual. Like the whole one human mind collective.

it's not right wing.
this is the final redpill.

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Fuck white nationalism. Hoppean Capitalism and physical removal of minorities and commies is way superior.

Over 90% of niggers are left wing. Right wing ones are essentially unicorns. The handful that do exist can run things when we send them back to Africa.

Collectivism has been the ideology of many right wing movements, from monarchy to fascism. Only in very limited forms of modern ideology does the individual always reign supreme, and never without qualifications.

Jews are not welcome on pol. Burn jew.

Because collectivism is for literal brain dead retards

Individualism is the cuck way of coping with a multicultural society

You might not understand the far off, but people have proven they can live next each other and never miscegenate through culture alone. Eventually light mixing will probably become a necessity.

even if we killed the left, i sure as hell don't want to live in what would be an english speaking brazil

don't care if they all go to church and own guns, rather keep the country nice, white, and first world thanks very much.

Yes so? Not an argument. Right wing/left wing isn't an argument either but right wing =/= libertarianism.

t. Neocon

It isn't an either/or situation. Society is collectivist by definition. There are only differing degrees of collectivism.

>why should we preserve this

What the fuck are you talking about?

Jesus fucking Christ, go back to the cuck shed already you dumb faggot.

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Just goes to show that the left right paradigm is dead

This. I don't care about imposing conservative values on society (I'm against some of them tbqh) but I do want my country to stay majority-white purely out of racial and economic self interest. I do have white pride but I think lots of white supremacists are dumb, the primary focus should be against immigration and the (covertly) against the kikes rather than stormfagging around. I like and admire aspects of Nazism but it's not the ideology we necessarily need, although its theories do accurately assess the source of white nations' problems.

Absolutely agreed! I couldn't have said it better myself. The Republican party should split into Libertarian and Nationalist wings. I would like to see the Democrats crushed and Libertarianism become the new left. No more commie bullshit, please.

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Kek, this is either muhammad or Sven himself. Either way the memes are true.

>he thinks it's about skin color
So let me get this straight, human are the ONLY animal who don't have intelligence variation between breeds?

>although its theories do accurately assess the source of white nations' problems.
>it's not the ideology we need

You mean you think it's too hard of a sell?

i agree with you. stormfagging will win no popular support, but if you cloak your ideas as "for the american people", which is what trump did, you will win a lot of whites by default because most whites believe in fair play and putting the nation first.

if people on here are more concerned about "conservative values" instead of preserving whites, perhaps they should move to africa, after all they have perhaps the most conservative societies.

Yes. You can take its core tenets without going full stormfag.

We can't do anything with the core tenets of NatSoc without an ethnostate first.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:

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Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:

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Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:

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Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:

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Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:

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also see

The facts about slavery in North America:

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Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:

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Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)

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The Holocaust:

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>an ethnostate
The only way that would happen is if the left took the bait and started a civil war.

That's why we need to meme Nazism hard. It triggers the fuck out of them. We don't even need politicians or figureheads to do it.

this

yes but baby steps, first white countries need to elect populist anti-globalist anti-immigration governments so we can contain the problem before we address its root causes. The kikes and globalists are dangerous enemies you can't move too quickly (or too slowly, these upcoming European elections are really going to matter)

>braindead collectivist
>calling someone else a cuck

Go back to Mexico, spic.

There are wrong ways and right ways to do collectivism

Yes I honestly like how Marine Le Pen has managed to infuse the positive aspects of the enlightenment/Republicanism into her movement so it will be taken seriously as not just another monarchist reactionary group. Political movements should differentiate themselves from the old reactionary right to appeal to a broader swathe of society (as Hitler did himself).

>Implying race is nothing more than skin color

Nice leddit talking points

To add the kikes are going to be the last enemy, as they will fight tooth and nail.

WN by itself isnt right or left retard

>1 post by this id

>Muh collectivism! Muh statism!

Good luck acting as a deracinated individual in a system of global elites who literally want to displace you within your own nation by changing its demographic composition from the top-down - and who have the resources to do it.

It takes collective action to stop that sort of thing. Man is a collective animal - and that's an advantage, not a flaw.

The same way communists have managed to push national socialism to the fringe of extreme right.

The tragedy of individualism is that it can only exist within a GROUP of individuals, and thus the only way to enforce it or make it come alive is through a certain collective which serves to carry the ideal of individualism and self determination. This is because political arrangements are collective in nature, whether or not they serve to protect an individualist model or not.

Thanks for your shilling.

The same way National Socialism is different from Socialism.

Collectivism >can work if there is a strong uniting force among the population. In a diverse country it fails because everyone hates other races no matter how much they claim not to. In a homogeneous society the people are united by their racial commonality and can therefore better maintain a collectivist economy.

Many of us WNs are extremely authoritarian, nationalistic centrists who will side with the right-wing over the left but otherwise do not align with them on most issues (foreign policy, environment, economy, science/religion, etc).

This.

Right wing ideologies are about maintaining civil society and culture. It just so happens that America had a more libertarian economic structure, therefore that's "maintaining" our culture. But now that that's been wholly taken away, the only thing left to maintain is our Nation.
Government intervention or not is secondary to that, in the end.

you do know he's married to a white woman right

why is the faggot even on this board? nobody on pol cares what he has to say

>How can that be Right Wing?

Nazi

It is tribalism.

Just like black nationalism.
Just like Hispanic nationalism.
Just like Zionism.
Just like Islamic Jihad.

Well they're not like each other, because there are significant differences in violence, methods and other cultural factors.

Do you want White people to get so desperate they start acting like Islamic radicals?

>We need big government to stop big government

Shut up Kentucky.