Polygamy

What exactly makes polygamy wrong and bad for society and its culture/politics? It doesn't seem to be inherently unethical, it isn't implicitly violating anybody's life or property.

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Sup Forums hates polygamy because they already cant get any pussy. if chad thundercock can have more than one woman for life then the average neckbearded polack is shit out of luck

Just look at Arab countries

Loads of permavirgins who are more than willing to blow themselves up a daycare for a chance at poon.

it's a failure in the sense it makes unstable household
>isn't implicitly violating anybody's life or property
i don't care. the folk is the most valuable social construct for a powerful and stable nation, not your an-cap memes

they're pornstars

you have a way with words

/thread

If a man can afford to support multiple wives and their children he should be able to.
>it makes unstable household
What?

polygamy breeds jealousy and jealousy is a sin

I knew Venezuela was white. Sup Forums BTFO

Sauce?

the nuclear family is the building block of civilization

WHO IS IN THE MIDDLE user?????

Whore, whore, whore

the nuclear family is the most effective family structure for european types. polyandry/polygyny is not successful

Gotta give it to the Dominican.

Her feet are perfect.

She looks like melania and amanda peet formed a scissor babby

75% white, 95% white, 50% white

Polygamy is the true redpill. Christ cucks would never understand this

Spain really did a great job improving the women

Okay, I understand the nuclear family angle, but say I was extremely wealthy and made a ton of passive income from a software company I'd founded, that I owned a home, was set with all I needed for life, etc. Would it then be immoral to have multiple partners and have children with all of them so long as I was there for all of them, stayed in their lives, took care of my kids both by being present and helping financially, etc.?

Fpbp

polygamy, having more than one wife, where each wife has only one husband, would lead to unequal protection under the law. its fundamentally about ownership of women, in legal terms. the only way to make it work is if each person in

no single man, no matter how powerful or rich, can be father figure to multiple households

>tfw you will never have 80 underaged sex slave wives like the prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him)

why even live?

Whats the dominican girl's name?

>what?
its pretty fucking obvious that you cant share an equal bond with multiple partners, outside of sexual usury. this translates into all facets of relationships that you create. thus, breaking down the camaraderie that is necessary to move forward as a society.

The nuclear family is a modern invention no better than single mothers. Large multi-generational households is how it's always been and how it should be.
>polyandry
That isn't really polygamy.

moral had nothing to do with it
The wives will attempt to sabotage each others kids and eventually the beta males rise up and slaughter you and your family

Polygamy results in africa and arab tier civilizations

Well it's their fault for being jealous then, that's like blaming rich people for other people being jealous of their wealth.
Okay, but in most Western countries there are more women than men. Would it not make sense then that some small number of men would go after multiple women?

>Women cause most divorces
>single mother-raised kids are objectively inferior
>"let's make women sleeping around the norm!"

The only reason we don't have polygamy is because we don't yet think it's ok for a man to be divorced by both wives at once because they'll have to share alimony.

because if a polygamous man divorce all his wifes he would have to give 100% or more of his patrimony and pay alimony twice or more

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when the nuclear family was invented isn't relevant to its success

>Sup Forums
As if Sup Forums is one person.

Increase in beta male suicide

In b4 some man kidnaps a women, moves to the wild, gets a bunch of daughters, and proceeds to marry them in the name of polygamy.

Why is that completely necessary? Why do you need to love everybody you're with exactly the same or in the same way? You can still care about them and love them individually, and care about your kids with them, that creates a bond too for you to care about them. You don't just not love them because of other women.
>The wives will attempt to sabotage each others kids and eventually the beta males rise up and slaughter you and your family. Polygamy results in africa and arab tier civilizations
Do you have any proof of this or is this just baseless mental masturbation sociology? It sounds like total bullshit.
> Women killing/harming my children
Yeah that will work out just great for them considering what I would do and that I won't be technically married.

I can understand how that would be worked against, as a sexist angle, etc. but that could actually be good, you could argue that alimony should be split then or something along those lines, it could end up helping men.

Not suicide but beta uprising.

You really think that the majority 90% of men would be okay with the tope 10% of Chads hoarding the woman? There's a reason why the most stable societies have been monogamous, polygamy is for tribal niggers and desert niggers who never created a stable historically notable/important society.

>as long as the government removes the no fault divorce law.. polygamy would be an attractive option.

NAMES OF SLOOTS PLZ!!!!

There's literally nothing wrong, you improve the genes of the population as only the top males reproduce, the only problem is interbreeding if its too monopolized.

>Implying an army of permavirgins willing to die is bad.

Natural selection as its finest.

Not really Judges are sexist and biased in favor of woman, you just have to remember how Brendan Fraser got fucked

Disagree.

youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw

watch this and you will understand

All will grow dark mustaches once they hit their 30s.

you fucking people act like woman wouldn't be able to have multiple husbands

Consumerism has disrupted females attraction towards strong genes

even if they weren't pornstars they're wearing a pound of makeup and push up bras

no thanks.

Good video

False, they're all models

But they're white, and even if they aren't, Mestizos are less hairy than white people generally (at least Spaniards).

Its simple. Lots of women share the top men. The lowest men get nothing.
Now if like America you don't believe prostitution should be legal you are blue balling a bunch of angry young men.

The next thing you have blood and society tarts to crumble. Look at the Russian revolution to see what happens when neet males sit around with noting to do.

>20% of the men having 80% of the women
It would create civil unrest and total societal collapse due to jealousy.

What's more confounding is how a shitload of people don't understand this. Someone always gets jealous in polygamous relationships.

Polygamy is the natural order of things

Not JUST him but Robin Williams too. Women took the ha out of his laugher.

why is what completely necessary? nothing is absolute.

children are irrelevant. many people have kids with multiple partners outside of an established relationship.

care to make an argument?

ITT: scared misogynists that they're losing power of women.

Sleeping in caves and shitting in bushes is also natural order of things.

I don't oppose polygamy at all.

To love another with pure passion is unique. If you treat love so haphazardly entity you take away from it, and it essentially becomes an accessory not a necessity.

>Someone always gets jealous in polygamous relationships.
because this doesn't happen in every non-poly relationship

Polygamy leads to a shortage of women and increased tension between men which is a very negative force which will lead to societal decay.

so lets add fuel to crazy, by adding more crazy

This.

Polygamy is only viable in primitive tribal societies.

cool so who are they?

The average Chad wouldn't want multiple wives

fag


what are their names?

I would disagree. I think rich people can afford polygamous relationships.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Unwin

>In Sex and Culture (1934), Unwin studied 80 primitive tribes and 6 known civilizations through 5,000 years of history and found a positive correlation between the cultural achievement of a people and the sexual restraint they observe.[1] "Sex and Culture is a work of the highest importance," Aldous Huxley wrote: Unwin's conclusions, which are based upon an enormous wealth of carefully sifted evidence, may be summed up as follows. All human societies are in one or another of six cultural conditions: zoistic, manistic, deistic, rationalistic, expansive, productive. Of these societies the zoistic displays the least amount of mental and social energy, the productive the most. Investigation shows that the societies exhibiting the least amount of energy are those where pre-nuptial continence is not imposed and where the opportunities for sexual indulgence after marriage are greatest. The cultural condition of a society rises in exact proportion as it imposes pre-nuptial and post-nuptial restraints upon sexual opportunity.[2]

>According to Unwin, after a nation becomes prosperous it becomes increasingly liberal with regard to sexual morality and as a result loses its cohesion, its impetus and its purpose. The effect, says the author, is irrevocable: The whole of human history does not contain a single instance of a group becoming civilized unless it has been absolutely monogamous, nor is there any example of a group retaining its culture after it has adopted less rigorous customs.[3]

You're right Nyukuti, jealousy happens in non-poly relationships. I guess that means the only solution is to become a hippie cuckold that believes in """""sharing""""" for the good of the community.

>Lacking so much of a spine that you let any man fuck your wife
My children are my wife's and mine only. Their genetic culmination is the product of our bodies and nobody else's.

It leads to disfuntional families and failed societys.

Polygamy is bad because the main reason of sex is to create a child. A child without a mother and a father will grow up living an awful, dysfunctional life.

right now its just men are having multiple families and leaving the old one behind, so it might solve that.

then again the fpbp is right it would cripple chances for men lower down the river, which would cause a lot of problems. we need a way to induce female or male birth to balance the outcomes. or have women with multiple husbands too. which i think nobody likes the sound of.

see it all gets a bit silly, when you would only love one of them really. the one you love the most. the others have to live a life of emptyness: that is until they leave the marrige.

doesnt work in liberal society because women wouldn't choose it and men shouldnt want it. its exuberant and egoic.

Wrong, they look more like instagram whores.

>In polygyny, powerful men gather the most desirable women for themselves. And less powerful men "go hungry," wifeless. In fact, throughout human history, while 80% of women have reproduced, only 40% of men have. Those men who couldn't compete, didn't get to have even a single wife, and thus didn't have children. So, what did those men do with their time? According to Henrich, Boyd and Richerson, it appears they got into lots of trouble. Societies where polygyny has been (and still is) practiced, have higher rates of violent crime, poverty, and other types of crime such as fraud. Apparently, if you can't get a wife, what's the point of following the rules?

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polygamous societies = chaos

Polygamy doesn't mean that children are raised without a mother or father though. Read through the thread. A well-off man could pay for multiple women and children and provide and be for them all. If anything a greater number of women/children around the children will provide a larger, healthier, lower-stress support network to raise them with.

that'd be great if women could actually keep their head down and work towards a single goal
see the army
see workplaces
see education

women cannot get along and you cannot trust them to be completely selfless
some studies somewhere about women in relationships have found that women are the ones to commit polygamy - both an object of lust and a provider (to raise the (not his) child)

fuck that kike drivel broadway show, cop a Mormon wife

The end result of polygamy is the beta males (80% of males) not getting any sex or a partner, ever.

Polygamy thins the gene pool.

These are fix ring girls, the "Mexican" is arianni Celeste, and you can easily find the others with this start...

This far into the thread and noone posted this yet? You plebs disappoint me.

unsustainable

Retarded roach fails to understand most of civilization was built upon the slaves who didn't get any pussy.

There will be always men who get the lion share of women, and others fighting for scraps. Anyone who thinks nuclear family was the basis of ancient civilizations is delusional

Islam has polygamy right. You can have 10 wives and 50 children if you can financially support and love them all equally. That's how it should be. hing is here in the west people think that means they can fuck anyone and everyone then have the government or some beta ATM machine they trapped pay for it all.

I don't really think that would be an effective method, try reading Brave New World and get a look into a world of polygamy.

>baby daddies

The bedrock of western civilization is the traditional christian family
Gtfo with your heretical shit

That only applies to ancient civilization user. Every other civilization past that didn't use slaves. How did you think those managed to advance far faster than the ancient ones?

....but how would beta's build civilization if they get nothing out of it? Can't you into history cunts?

when pizzagate drops society is fucked anyhow

> This book is a totally good example of how the world would play out without any data or experimentation
There are polygamous families that get by fine though, Charlemagne had multiple sons from multiple women and they maintained his empire after he died.

A man getting a woman and enursing his bloodline will continue gives once time to participate in society. You're seeing what happens when men aren't getting their one woman. They check out, fap to 2d waifus, play vidya and post on Bolivian quilting BBS's.

Civilizations are built on monogamy, if chad wants to fuck all the women, thats fine, but we should be able to kill him as a result.

youtube.com/watch?v=ANvzW_Uaaxw

Every civilization uses slaves or uses 'free' people who are de facto free. I will not buy into the argument that 19th century factory worker who starts working at the age 6, works 12 hours a day, drinking gin at his only break and dying at the ripe age of 32 is different than slavery.

Nuclear family is a very very very recent invention. You might argue beta males were incentivized in 20th century to work and this is not the case now, but citing pre 20th century is bad sports.

I find it amusing this place who is pro free market, pro competition in almost every other place demand tight regulations and strict controls when it comes to sexual market place. Patricians/Lords/Emperors/Sheiks/Tribal leaders always get the majority of the pussy, and serfs,slaves,workers get nothing or very few.

It is what it is.

> pro competition in almost every other place demand tight regulations and strict controls when it comes to sexual market place

Because they fear for their own genetic survival?

The purpose of sex is children
>multi generational households
Could be right, or you could be trying to justify living with your parents

on paper there is nothing wrong with it but on practice it just doesnt works, its already complicated to mantain a relationship with a single woman

> The purpose of sex is children
Bullshit, the overwhelming amount of sex had by humans is purely for pleasure.