Claus von Stauffenberg - Was he based?

>From the beginning of September 1943 until 20 July 1944, von Stauffenberg was the driving force behind the plot to assassinate Hitler and take control of Germany. His resolve, organizational abilities, and radical approach put an end to inactivity caused by doubts and long discussions on whether military virtues had been made obsolete by Hitler's behavior.

>He left the room to arm the first bomb with specially adapted pliers, a task made difficult because he had lost his right hand and had only three fingers on his left. A guard knocked and opened the door, urging him to hurry as the meeting was about to begin. As a result, Stauffenberg was able to arm only one of the bombs. Some minutes later, he excused himself and left the room. After his exit, the briefcase was moved by Colonel Heinz Brandt.

>When the explosion tore through the hut, Stauffenberg was convinced that no one in the room could have survived. Although four people were killed and almost all survivors were injured, Hitler himself was shielded from the blast by the heavy, solid-oak conference table leg and was only slightly wounded.

>Stauffenberg and Haeften quickly left and drove to the nearby airfield. After his return to Berlin, Stauffenberg immediately began to motivate his friends to initiate the second phase: the military coup against the Nazi leaders. When Joseph Goebbels announced by radio that Hitler had survived and later, after Hitler himself personally spoke on the state radio, the conspirators realized that the coup had failed.

>Stauffenberg was third in line to be executed, when his turn came, Stauffenberg spoke his last words, "Es lebe unser heiliges Deutschland!" ("Long live our sacred Germany!").

Germany cucked by a fucking table leg.

If this was successful, you fags wouldn't have had all of your fighting age males executed, and all of your women raped by Soviets.

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Honestly yes, Hitler was a good beginning but he lost his goddamn mind and eventually succumbed to megalomania and kept making the wrong moves.

That's a pretty good colourized photo of him

isnt that tom cruise

He just ignored his generals. Look at Stalin he was just as bad as hitler but listend to his generals before executing them atleast.

Yeah he was based. Hitler was a terrible strategist and fucked up the war effort for Germany. He never listened to his gifted generals and took matters into his own hands. It doesn't help that in the later years he was a drugged up methhead with Parkinsons.

The Allies decided against trying to assassinate him because they figured he was better kept alive, since it would make Germany easier to defeat while he was in power.

Yeah hitler fucked up the war bad

By 1941 it was obvious they were going to lose they could have sued for peace, moderated the Reich and gone on for decades but instead the nazis went full retard

No that is stauffenberg my good friend.

t.Schlomo

Reminds me of this lol.
Any true oldfags will know this.


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It is Stauffenberg

Nope.

Germany was going to get destroyed either way.

>Claus von Stauffenberg - Was he based?
unlikely

>sued for peace
Surrendering to the jew wasn't a choice
They weren't good goys and was never gonna be good goys, Victory or Valhalla!

Damn he looked a lot like Tom Cruise.

little known fact: there was a camera crew following him around during the attempt, amazing that they had cameras back then
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Sounds like a faggot to me.
Is right. Nothing would have saved them. They were set up for destruction.

The allies were the really bad guys. Your ignorance doesn't change this.

Germany didnt have to invade Russia or side with the japanese. if germany had focused on torpedo planing the british navy Britian would be blockaded and forced to surrender.

no, the war was meant to kill as many white europeans as possible, no return from this now

what a pussy. he could have stayed inside the room and guaranteed hitlers death. instead he snuck away like a coward trying to save his own skin. and then he ends up dying a cowards either way!

what an utter cuckold.

Yes, Stauffenberg as germanys leader would have been the perfect future. Either we would've won the war with him thanks to his military genius and ability to remain cool under pressure, or there would have been a better peace. The atomic bomb wouldn't have been necessary so it would never have been developed, the modern germany would still exist with the old, proud and efficient ways, but without the unnecessary racism and mass murder.

Germany and the Soviets were on a collision course from the start.

pretty much this, if you're gonna be a bitch and assassinate someone with a bomb at least stick around to make sure it succeeds.

>falling for the b8

stop embarrassing our country new friend

>better peace
You got your better peace when the allies didn't sterilize all German women and didn't drop the atomic bomb on every city.

Also you didn't get split up into tiny states.

No, he was a Traitor.

He was a fool. The Allies wanted the total destruction of Germany as their jewish masters demanded it. There was no negotioation.

Enjoy your cuck world

>"Long live our sacred Germany"
>After trying to kill the one person who made it great

Is this like when leftists rally against the only rules that let them remain free to spout their retarded shit?

>Hitler dies, new leadership is enacted
>Germany sues for peace with the western allies and requests an alliance to fuck over the Soviets
>Europe is saved from eternal cuckening, millions of German men are saved from death
>germany retains its prussian martial tradition and monarchy
best timeline desu

...

Hitler did offer them peace deals by 1941. Ally cucks didn't accept it because ww2 was about destroying Germany nothing else

Pretty much this.

The moment Germany became NatSoc and broke the Jewish grip on its media, art, financial and cultural development it was a target from where it could only be 1 winner.

Pretty much this

If youre gonna try to assassinate the fuhrer, dont miss and try to take power #Rekt

Good german

We basically sealed our fate, but on the other hand its better to try and fail than to never try at all.

We already saw the degeneracy of the weimar republic, we just delayed it for 12 years.

Thats why those 12 years of freedom from jewish influence are portrayed as the worst years of history

Stauffenberg was the besy of the conspirators. But no, he was not based. Instead, he lost his mind when he sustained serious injuries and became a traitor. But he was late to the 'resistance', which was mainly Protestant autistics who were literally traitors.

As for 'Hitler ignoring his generals' meme, there is a lot more to it. In fact it was precisely the old guard that radically changed his invasion plan of the USSR. Hitler, righly, aaw that taking Moscow was no guarantee of victory, so he planned a sort of V thrust. However, the OKW changed this back to the straight drive to Moscow. I believe the Soviet general Zuberov said that Hitler's plan would have almost certainly worked since the USSR would have been choked of oil from the south.

There were points in which Hitler did get very involved in strategy, but it was out of necessity. For example, had he not ordered the (literal traitor) Paulus to hold out longer, Germany would have risked losing the entire Army Group in the Caucuses. (It's worth noting that their retreat was slowed considerably because they were helping fleeing civilians.)

So no. Stauffenberg only distracted Germany. Had he and the underground focused more on winning, they might have had a break at some point in 1944. Probably though, only nukes were going to save Germany though.

Also by the way, Stalin was going to zerg rush to the Atlantic. Hitler fought a crusade for all of Europe. So save the 'muh invade Russia' crayon history.

based digits.

Goebbels was from my city btw

this, even Kek approve

Your little edgy faggot doesnt realize that German patriotism existed prior and parallel to that brown one-egged psycho?
Stauffenberg was an hero of his nation and coincidentally a 10/10 Chad.
Hitler was an ugly Omega male , who stalked his crush from the bushes of the art academy and never approached her in his life.
This is why lol worships him, subconsciously., Because residents of this board are low test ,unnattractive Omega (lower than beta) males.
Also
>Brit
>Naziaboo
>Literally spitting on the graves of his fathers
Neck yourself immediately

You are right, German bro. Hitler tried. And now Trump is about to fuck us on immigration.

We have only the Second Coming left. Nothing with come of politics.

Hitler was a good politician but a mediocre administrator and shitty strategist. Killing him in 1939 would have actually benefitted the Nazis.

Wait, you think the Soviets wouldn't have invaded Germany if Hitler had been assassinated? Lol

With jews you lose. Its as simple as that.

Trump is a not so good goy but still within the system.

Cant expect more without spilling blood and a giant oy vey

>t. brainwashed faggotlord

This story just shows how good German engineering is. Fucking bombproof tables, goddamn

Exactly. It was literally insane to even consider that the (((ALLIES))) had any intention of a peace. It was always about destroying Germany.

The fuck you talking about, Norway? They did split up the Reich into small states and gang raped it for years. They stopped just short of sterilizing the women, which was the actual (((MORGANTHAU))) Plan.

You probably think that the siblings Scholl were heroes as well topkek

Yeah. I'm sorry that America ruined it for you (and the world.) We've been under (((THEIR))) control for a while though. Even our "Christmas music" that is allowed to be played publicly was written by Jews. Feels bad man.

neck yourself ultra cuck
Stauffenberg was a man that did what he thought was right

So was Hitler

>If this was successful, you fags wouldn't have had all of your fighting age males executed, and all of your women raped by Soviets.

WRONG. Even before the war started, Britain was in contact with the resistance movement, i.e. the high ranking military and political members. Britain reasoned "we don't trust people fighting against their own nation" and later in the war they also reasoned "if the resistance movement is successful, they will implement a military dictatorship worse than Hitler". As a result, Britain/Churchill did not seek to help the resistance movement.

Either way, the plan was to flatten Germany and the resistance movement had a big part in the defeat on the eastern front. Especially that thanks to them, nearly all military plans were known to Britain and the USSR. Sometimes captured Soviet officers told the Wehrmacht soldiers what their next targets will be.

Literally nothing about the resistance members is based, they are traitors fucking up literally everything. Every wrong decision of Hitler pales in comparison to their doings, especially when Hitlers bad decisions were based on bad intel deliberately falsified by resistance members, or sometime Hitlers orders never reaching the frontline.

They used more than enough explosives to hypothetically wipe out the room.

Hitler had dozens of assassination attempts, it's just one of those bizarre things in history where someone wasn't fated to die before his time.

Listen to Bach at Christmas, its worth it and gets you into a true high spirit.

Even though I am not really Christian ( more of a deist) the traditions of it are made by Europeans and worth of saving, the cuck ideology of it not so much.

To me America died in 1865

>1965

FTFY Hans.

This man gets it. Do you have any book suggestions that describe the effects of the 'resistance'?

Its also pretty cowardly what he did.

He should have just shot Hitler if he wanted to be sure and face the consequences.

Same with that coward Georg Elser who tried to bomb Hitler in 1939, killing lots of other people including Eva Brauns father but not Hitler.

And commie fags here are celebrating this piece of shit

Why?

The north waged war on the south despite the constitution not stating that you cant leave the union. The basically became the British. And from there it went downhill, they FED was installed and you became an imperialist nation meddling in everyones affairs and therefore making you a perfect host for jews.

Jews just finally moved their headquarters from London to Washington and New York after WW2 but the process started earlier

Read "Hitlers Revolution" by Tedor. If you just want to read about the resistance, it is chapter 5 or 6 spanning like 40 pages. Can be found for free.

He was a key part of the plot iirc

If he'd shot Hitler he'd have been detained if not killed, unable to report the success or failure of the plot, someone like Himmler or Goering would have been able to take over.

Can't say how that would have turned out, might have actually got them what they wanted since Hitler was trying to surrender on behalf of Germany in 1945 while Hitler still lived.

holy fuck is this real, should i start watching this?

Yes

He hated Hitler but he loved German fascism and nationalism. Had he murdered Hitler's people he would have been able to negotiate real peace that would have been a massive middle finger to the Russians

No, our German friend is right. America as it was died in 1865. Reconstruction was literally turning over the South to blacks, after a 30 Years War style of fighting. In 1965 we sealed our demographic fate.

Also, for Christmas I listen to the Oxford Medieval Carols album. Good stuff.

Well he was there with his adjutant so the adjutant could have just stormed the room and did the job while Stauffenberg was leaving.

On the other hand its just the fate that protected Hitler.

The oak table and in addition the meeting was not held in the bunker but in the barracks which would not contain the deadly pressure

>he would have been able to negotiate real peace

topkek, read

He should have known his power level was too low to take on Hitler. Only Hitler is strong enough to kill Hitler.

Vielen Dank.

>Trump is about to fuck us on immigration
Congrats, you just dicredited every argument you made ITT.

yes

>Lel just sink the entire royal navy with aircraft
Pearl Harbour was entirely a surprise operation and even then most of the battleships were recovered and put back into service. Since the Germans had no way of reaching Scapa Flow with aircraft the only way they could sink the RN would be in the open ocean which would end up being a massacre for the Germans.

>We need to Balkanize the country because of a dispute over niggers

Ultimate retardation. Had John Wilkes Booth let Lincoln live, the majority of negroes, if not all of them, would have been sent back to Africa.

I'm glad the North won. If that faggot in charge of guarding Lincoln's theatre booth hadn't of fallen asleep, there'd be few, if any, niggers living here today.

The Southerners should've just paid white men an honest wage and we could've avoided this whole fucking the thing to begin with.

>Tried to kill papa
Are you seriously asking this question or are you just that bored?

Slavery would have been abandoned as soon as the first machines could do the job cheaper.

But this is not the point.

The point is that the North became what the British were when you had your revolution.

1865 made 1913 possible which made 1965 possible

They wanted to destroy Germany. This wasn't about Hitler anymore at that point. You can argue whether or not the Oster conspiracy should have happened, but after the French capitulation and especially after Barbarossa, it was too late.

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>Because of a retarded dispute over niggers the Fed was established.

Complete non-sequitur. The Fed was established because greedy, piece of shit faggots like Morgan, Rockefeller and Rothschild.

Andrew Jackson basically did the same thing as Lincoln when he threatened to send in federal troops when South Carolina threatened secession, but is ultimately the man who killed the first attempt at the Fed and ushered in some of our most prosperous years.

How did we become the British when the British were aiding the CSA to prevent us from becoming powerful? The Bongs knew that if our country split, they could easily reassert their power in North America. We'd be cucks to them if the South won.

>colonies want more independence
>secede
>get fought by former mother nation

>south wants more independence
>secede
>get fought by former mother nation

Why are you defending abolitionism?

thank you so much

Actually I am wrong here, the South didnt demand "more" he just wanted to keep it like it was and how it was agreed on by everyone when the states formed the union

New thread, lads.

>I wanna keep muh negroes
>Secede and cause a gigantic, unnecessary war killing 500,000 whites in the process
>Assassinate the only guy smart enough to see the problems that negroes would cause in the future that wanted to send them all back to Africa

I'm defending abolitionism because it was bound to happen anyway like you said. Lincoln's plan was just free them and send them the fuck back and get them out of our hair before they become a massive problem.

The US was becoming alienated from the rest of the civilized world because we were the only ones who still had slavery. Lincoln wanted to kill two birds with one stone. If the South won, they'd probably eventually have a large-scale negro uprising once technology made slavery useless. But no, Lincoln was somehow wrong because he wanted to send them back.

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Yeah but why free them forcefully? why couldnt lincoln wait 30 years?

The south didnt secede for fun but because Lincolns policy threatened its wealth.

Lincoln caused the war, not the south.

How so? Drudge had the headline yeaterday that the 'Dreamers' are going to be given a quasi amnesty and 'non violent' 'working' illegals might be able to stay.

My point was that we don't seem to have hope of political solutions.

FPBP. The war was already lost and If Claus succeeded germany would have at least been able to surrender conditionally, or perhaps even come to a cease fire

Killing the Führer would have caused civil war and thats why Erwin Rommel refused to take part in assassination as Hitler would be a martyr to a permanent ideology and believed he should be arrested and put on trial if they were to do a coup. The Wehrmacht leadership would take over, end the war with the west and focus all efforts on the Communists.
Wait what? Is it actually redpilled? I thought it was going to be all godless pope mode with edgy athiest and liberal statements after that opening scene dream.

Admittedly I only watched the first episode and there was no subtitles for the italian and latin parts.
This.
All traitorous dogs that submitted to ((them)).

go watch the speech, pal

>Base entire economy on forced labor which was becoming extremely unpopular due to its cruelty
>Everyone else is the problem

Not even a nigger deserves to be treated that way. They'd have done much better if they were sent to Africa or South America. Even if we didn't deport all of them, even just getting just the lion's share of negroes out of the country would be ideal. The remaining negroes could've been civilized and kept under control as a tiny minority no larger than the Injuns.

Agreed.

I dont think Stauffenberg liked kikes, he actually spoke ill of them in his diary.

He just fell for the idea that Germany could be saved and the allies hate Hitler and not a free Germany.

>Not even a nigger deserves to be treated that way.
>The remaining negroes could've been civilized and kept under control as a tiny minority no larger than the Injuns.

It was proven fake by cabinet staff.
You've been misinformed.

Yes. Hitler got retarded as fuck. His stupid ambition made him a poor military leader. The invasion of Russia was the last drop. From that moment on Germany was destined to lose.

He was an idiot.
((They)) sought the total and utter destruction of Germany,its race and all its achievements. There was no need to flatten the entire country yet they did so with 97% of all urban environments from towns to cities decimated.

My grandfather(RAF bomber pilot) told me on his death bed that had he known then what he knew now. He would have turned his plane around and bombed Churchill instead. That really made me think about what a pointless waste of life the war really was. Sought after by the international jewish bankers and led directly to the infiltration of Jewish created Marxism into western society and the rise of third wave feminism,liberalism,civil rights and all the anti white shit we see today.

So in the beginning of the movie (((Valkyrie))), Stauffy mentioned he was upset by the extermination of the Jewish people while writing a letter inside his officer tent. Is it a Hollywood lie? If so please give me sources on his dislike of the Jews.

He would've been if he had simply STUFFED THE SECOND BOMB IN THE BRIEFCASE

He could've at least had a backup plan where one of plotters would perform the coup de grace on Hitler if the bomb failed to kill him instantly.

>The remaining negroes could've been civilized and kept under control as a tiny minority no larger than the Injuns

This. Hitler was only needed for the revolution. After that someone with more experience should take over him. He lost because of his childish shit I want to conquer Europe no matter the cost. And remember thanks to him it's politically incorrect to be a nationalist today. Thank fucking you adolf.

what's the dumbest part of this genocide sympathizer post? it's hard to pin point

> (It's worth noting that their retreat was slowed considerably because they were helping fleeing civilians.

there it is. hahahahahahaha

Surrender and we'll take all of your shit or keep fighting us because we certainly gonna lose.
Yeah the allies only wanted to destroy Germany right. Gtfo nazi shill.

Yeah you are right. Stauffenberg just pussied out of the path we walked and thought he could back paddle.

Didnt work.

Respect to your gradfather for his reflection and insight.

I dont have the source at hand but I have a good memory. About the Poles he said something like this " A people of gypsies and jews that needs to feel the knout"

Sorry.

Hitler despised Freisler though

Shall I say Based German bro?