Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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communismblog.wordpress.com/2014/12/11/list-of-communist-jews/
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mosaisk.com/revolution/Winston-Churchill-Zionism-Versus-Bolshevism.php
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
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GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
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It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
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Hourly reminder that these are bait threads.

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

nice (((sources))) faggot

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Have you ever wondered what was Hitler's deal with the Jews? Have you ever wondered why so many European countries were so quick to ship all their Jews out?

The answer is Communism. They don't talk about this in (((their))) history books. Communism is the product of Jewish thought. Marx was a Jew. So were Lenin and Trotsky. The government running the Soviet Union was Jewish. Under Jewish rule close to 60 million christian russians were sent to their deaths. The Warburgs and Rothschilds who financed the Red Revolution were Jewish wall-street bankers.

Jews were the communist radicals threatening the political stability of European nations. Hitler was anti-communist. That was what WW2 was about: nationalism VS communism (internationalism/ globalism).

The Frankfurt school was 100% jewish. It's mandate was to destroy white european culture and replace it with Jewish communism.

Have you ever heard of the Havaara transfer agreement?

Have you ever heard of any historical event that is presented as black and white as WW2? The Nazis were pure evil. Americans were pure good (despite nuking two japanese cities full of civilians and firebombing civilian cities in France and Germany). They were so good we were allied with the Communists (only 100 million dead in the 20th century)

Why is it that claims of genocide happen to come from the six camps liberated by the soviets. The remaining fifteen or so have placards saying that no exterminations were carried out?

Why did General Patton say "We defeated the wrong enemy" before being assassinated?

Ask yourself these things.

Stalin subverted that by destroying his competition after the death of Lenin. Not only did he force them from power, but he executed many of the top jewish members (Trotsky, Yagoda, Yezhov).

As a goy had outmanoeuvred and subverted them, they needed a way to remove the threat that Stalin and his removal of Jews posed.

So they did what they always do, they started to fund the other side. When they realised that Hitler and his reinvigorated Germany would be a much greater threat to them by removing their main source of power ((((financial services))), they funded the US and UK to get involved.

Communism was originally called "Jewish Bolshevism."

Communism is a JEWISH movement. The primary aim of jewish communism is to destroy Christianity, destroy western Civilization, and destroy the white-European people.

Jews killed tens of millions of whites and Christians in the Soviet Union without a shred of remorse, yet they will keep blowing up their exaggerate tale of the "Holocaust", which they keep alive through their control of the media and educational systems alive to vicitimize themselves eternally.

Winston Churchill exposes forces behind Communism.
youtube.com/watch?v=BNcERXGcpEY

Sources on Jews and Communism
archive.org/details/SourcesOnJewsAndCommunism_7004

The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime
ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

LIST OF COMMUNIST JEWS.
communismblog.wordpress.com/2014/12/11/list-of-communist-jews/
i.imgur.com/CRXZhPP.jpg

Is that Molymeme?

kys Spanish cuck

Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism.”
(A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 143-144.)

"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism (Communism) itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism." ~ The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1919.

“Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as common enemies.” ~ Univ. Jew Encyc., Vol. I, p. 336.

“There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolsheviks, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism.” ~ London Jewish Chronicle, 4 April 1919.

"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international movement controlled by Jews; communications are passing between the leaders in America, France, Russia and England, with a view to concerted action." ~ Directorate of Intelligence, Home Office, Scotland Yard, London, in a Monthly Report to Foreign Embassies, 16th July, 1919.

David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington:
(David R. Francis, Russia from the American Embassy (New York: 1921), p. 214.)

"The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution."

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke (Foreign Relations of the United States - 1918 - Russia, Vol. 1 (Washington, DC: 1931), pp. 678-679):

"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

"The Bolshevist officials of Russia are Jews. The Russian Revolution with all its ghastly horrors was a Jewish movement." (The Jewish Chronicle, Sept. 22, 1922)

"The Jewish domination in Russia is supported by certain Russians...they (the Jews), having wrecked and plundered Russia by appealing to the ignorance of the working folk, are now using their dupes to set up a new tyranny worse than any the world has known." (The Last Days of the Romanovs, Robert Wilton; Rulers of Russia, Rev. Denis Fahey, p. 15)

"We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America." (The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit)

>the USSR government was Jewish
Wrong.
>Under Jewish rule close to 60 million Russian Christians were sent to their deaths
The number was about a third of that, last time I checked, and most of them were atheists. Many weren't Russian.

"In the Bolshevik era, 85 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." ~ Stuart Kahan (Historian)

"Bolshevism is a Jewish idea, based on the teachings of Karl Marx and other socialist revolutionaries. It is characterized by destruction and chaos, imposes his will and maintains its power through terror and murder. Many would like to keep the public was unaware of the role played by Jews, communists, Zionists, whether financiers ... Bolshevism and Zionism are only a means, a weapon in the fight against the Jewish world power for supremacy in politics or the economy " ~ A.Homer

"The Communists are against religion (Christianity), and they seek to destroy religion; yet, when we look deeper into the nature of Communism, we see that it is essentially nothing else than a religion (Judaism)." ~ Rabbi Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and Humanity.

"The estimated number of Christians and non-Jews killed under Communist Russia were around 60 millions." "The Communist regime created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor system of the 20th century, in which millions of gentiles and Christians were slaughtered." ~ C. Andrew (Author)

Winston Churchill... Who later sold out to the Jews and became their tool... ominously warned the world of the menacing bolshevik movement were Jewish.
mosaisk.com/revolution/Winston-Churchill-Zionism-Versus-Bolshevism.php

Winston Churchill (Illustrated Sunday Herald February 8, 1920)

"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution, by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews, it is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd) or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing."

Hello Comrade, revolution when?

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"Marxism, to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was originated by Karl Marx, himself of rabbinical descent and has been dominated by them from the beginning. Marx did not actually originate anything; he merely “streamlined” Talmudism for Gentile consumption.” ~ Elizabeth Dilling (Historian)

“Some call it Communism, I call it JUDAISM.” ~ Rabbi S. Wise, The American Bulletin, May 5, 1935. (Judaism is nothing but disguised, camouflaged Communism.)

“The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a NEW ORDER IN THE WORLD. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, became a reality all over the world.” ~ The American Hebrew Sept. 10, 1920.

ia801703.us.archive.org/13/items/RussiaNo.11919--ACollectionOfReportsOnBolshevismInRussia1.ed./Russia_No.1_1919--A_Report_On_Bolshevism_In_Russia.pdf
youtube.com/watch?v=eP18DvPFn9w

We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish (Israeli Ynet News)
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

Socialism comes from marxism/communism - it is all one lie built on another lie - all propagated by the Father of lies -

Communism is a Jewish ideology for the goyim. They promise paradise but in reality communism is a way for Jews to have their "2800 slaves"

Communism is a Jewish stain on humanity.

The Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party::

NAME ETHNICITY
Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
Lourie (Larine) Jew
Ouritski Jew
Volodarski Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew
Smidovitch Jew
Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew
Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
Ulyanov (Lenin) Half-Jew
Krylenko Russian
Lounatcharski Russian

The Council of the People’s Commissars:

MINISTRY NAME ETHNICITY
President Ulyanov (Lenin) Half-Jew
Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
Agriculture Protian Armenian
Economic Council Lourie (Larine) Jew
Food Schlichter Jew
Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
State Control Lander Jew
State Lands Kauffman Jew
Works V. Schmidt Jew
Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) Jewess
Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
Religions Spitzberg Jew
Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
Hygiene Anvelt Jew
Finance Isidore Goukovski Jew
Press Volodarski Jew
Elections Ouritski Jew
Justice I. Steinberg Jew
Refugees Fenigstein Jew
Refugees (assist.) Savitch Jew
Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski Jew

If there's any group of people on this planet who have valid reasons for hating the Jews it's the Russians: the real Russians, not the so-called "Russians" you occasionally hear the media here mention when they're reporting on organized crime in Russia. Those aren't Russians; they're Jews living in Russia. The Jews bled Russia dry with 70 years of Marxist rule and murdered tens of millions of Russians — the best Russians — in the communist slave labor camps or in the basements of the secret police headquarters or beside the shooting pits in forests all over Russia and Ukraine; they have forced thousands of the prettiest young Russian women into prostitution and slavery after the fall of communism; and now they kidnap Russian children and rape and sexually torture them to death in front of a camera in order to make child-porn films for rich perverts in the West. The Jews are lucky they still control most of the television and other mass media in Russia — because if the Russian people ever are fully awakened to what the Jews are still doing to them, they will rise up and kill every Jew in Russia - - every Jew — and they will be fully justified in doing so.

The Bolshevik Revolution was completely planned and financed by anti labor Wall Street Jews (Jacob and Mortimer Schiff, Felix Warburg, Otto H. Kahn, Max Warburg, Jerome J. Hanauer, Alfred Milner and the copper family Guggenheim according to the Jewish historian David Shub). It had nothing to do with advancing the Russian "proletariat". Trostky trained and recruited terrorists in Manhattan's Lower East Side just so his financiers could get their hands on the vast wealth of the Czar and turn Russia into a giant gulag and the most brilliant anti-labor piece of propaganda in human history. They have succeed. Now anyone who's in favor of workers' rights, living wages and lower interests is called a "communist" or a "socialist". Jews are brilliant propagandists.

God, you need to get out of your house much more

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No thank you, I don't want to work extra hard so my bullshit lazy neighbour can fap all day to traps and furries.

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It's just copy/paste posts. LOL

I'm only trying to wake you up to the truth

About the truth I only need to know that nuggets and vodka were involve.

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We need to redpill the social democrats in podemos

PCPE always

WOW! These Communist Generals are really popular here now. I never thought they would catch on. We have rolling generals all day now! We're really winning guys! NO PASARAN! We will defeat the fascist scum!

Sup Forums is a COMMUNIST BOARD now!

YASS!

YASSSSSSSS SLAYYYYYY

I have an honest question
Everytime TRUE comunism was attempted it was destroyed by stronger, more powerful capitalist societies.
Is there any hope for a society that can't hold its ground?

Hasta la victoria siempre!

hahaha it's so nice to see Communism catching and being popular for once in this fucking cesspool. I knew Trump would lead to disappointment, and we would make huge inroads because of it. Thanks to everyone for showing your support and helping keep these generals rolling!!

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>the soviet revolution was actually a conspiracy to make communism look bad
top fucking kek

tell that to Stalinists and MLs who worship the USSR.

Honestly I bet you don't even believe that yourself, you're just trying to take advantage of Sup Forums's anti-semetism

yeah, at this point, you've lost so hard at any kind of discourse, that you revert to meme spamming and ironic shitposting

GG /leftypol/

so much for turning Sup Forums communist. KEK!

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Need thread theme and news about communism

Try it, faggot. I have guns and you're some cucked Mexican living in your mom's basement. I won't hesitate to shoot you in the streets like the dirty commie you are.

Take Castro's example and fucking die commie scum.

Yeah good idea

Theme:

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>Hong Kong and Taiwan vs China
>USA vs Soviet Union and Russia
>Switzerland vs France and Spain
>Cold War West Europe vs East Europe
>Chile vs Venezuela

what?

Do you realize that I live in another country. Enjoy the song Comrade, soon you will listen every day on the radio.

Just comparing the prosperity of capitalist vs socialist nations.

there is people living in cages in Hong Kong,

And yet it's still better off than China.

No you are actually comparing capitalist nations to other capitalist nations.

Lo único ''útil'' que hacéis los comunistas es abrir el mismo puto hilo en Sup Forums para que os insulten.

Idos a leer el twitter de masademocrata, anda.

I thought you fags always go on about how gommunism is stateless and the end goal is a globalist utopia.

Why am I even taking a Spaniard seriously when talking about economics? Isnt your economy imploding and your siestas are like 5 days out of the week every week? Fuck off commie filth, you're retarded. Better dead than red. Faggot.

How could be better live in a cage than work on a own state farm?

. . . Still doing this dumb shit, huh?

No, in now way are China, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, or cold war Eastern Europe capitalist in any standard sense of the word.

Him? Not necessarily. He's probably still better off than in China, where he'd likely die, but he might be a little better off. 95% of everyone else is certainly better off though.

No paso de twitter esta llenos periodistas mentirosos.

It is not stateless there is a state who controll everthing.
Funny ending, insulting the people that you are arguing says much about the education you receive. Hey, dont worry you can buy all weapons you want, you never know when black helicopters attack.

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>No, in now way are China, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, or cold war Eastern Europe capitalist in any standard sense of the word.
They are (and were) in the Marxist sense of the word (the one that matters): they were societies based on trade.

Considering that the median income in China is less than a third of what it is in Hong Kong, almost everyone is better off under the more capitalist nations.

>in the Marxist sense of the word
Marx doesn't get to use new definitions whenever he feels like it. I don't use that definition and neither does the majority of the world.

>a commie insulting other people's education
Make a move then commie fuck. Your economy can't get much worse. I'll be laughing as you faggots start starving to death when the EU doesn't flood your country with shekels anymore. Some of us actually remember the multiple times gommunism was tried and failed over and over again and millions died.

Fuck off back to your fantasy land nigger.

Day of the Helicoptor soon, friend.

Comrade farmer, people are starving due to state incompetence and corruption! To remove suspicion of government you will be blamed for stealing food and publicly executed just like your predecessor. You will be replaced with another starving peasant. Thank you for participating in glorious socialist revolution!

duuuuude post scarcity is totes gonna happen so we need to like go full despotic one world autocracy and shit like that so the like mean mister monopoly piggy men from the funny joke pictures with the tuxedos don't like beat us to the punch in exploiting the technology and stuff
we're not larpers we swear

>I don't use that definition
Don't you think it's a bit of a problem when you engage in a discussion with Marxists?

Not sure, families can always improve in China in their sons are goods students. In HK they have less chances to end in better job than their parents, that privilege is only for HK citizens.

"The communist soul is the soul of judaism,"
Rabbai Harry Waton.

"Judaism is communism, internationalism, the universal brotherhood of man, the emancipation of the working class. It is with these spiritual weapons that the jews will conquer the world and the human race,"
Rabbai Harry Waton.

"Some call it marxism, I call it judaism,"
Rabbai S. Wise.

Marxists are the ones making the claim that socialism will work against all evidence shown to us so far, if they want to convince people that socialism can work they should at least use the same language as the capitalists.

>families can always improve in China in their sons are goods students
Then why don't they? And why is China so elitist with its schooling then? Why does China let so few people become prosperous? Why does Hong Kong let so many become prosperous?

It's a problem when you engage with mental patients too. Doesn't mean they can expect to walk into a shop, speak Lunatic to the shopkeeper, and walk out with what they wanted.

OP is a cucked faggot sucking sandnigger dick. Just saying and I'm not fake news.

Not Comrade we blame the capitalist pig, need to start military actions to expand the revolution.

The people of Spain were given the choice once between communism and a brutal, unelected dictator installed in a military coup.

They made the sane choice. Respect your ancestors, Spaniard, embrace literally anything but communism.

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can't wait until you paella monkeys have to start queuing up for toilet paper, that'll snap you out of it.

I think someone who can't understand the necessity of using one theory's terms the way they are defined in order to understand said theory cannot be convinced anyway.

nobody fucking cares about Marx's use of "capitalism" and "communism". They're utterly useless since one of them is a priori impossible (communism requires post-scarcity which is by definition impossible since humans will always compete for resources), and another one (capitalism) describes literally every economy that isn't a tribe in the fucking bush.

your use of the terms serve the ideological purpose of advancing communism. They are biased, and, as I pointed out in the above post, useless. Nobody except retards on /leftypol/ think that the word "capitalism" applies to the USSR or China during the Great Leap "Forward" or the cultural revolution.

back to /leftypol/

>nobody fucking cares about Marx's use of "capitalism" and "communism".
The other user pretended to compare "communist" nations with "capitalist" ones. If he didn't care about Marx's definitions of the word, what is the point of such a comparison ?

I don't understand why I'm supposed to use communism's language and views when communist don't use mine. I've never had communists assume for a moment that wage labor isn't exploitation, or that China and Cuba aren't capitalist nations, so why am I expect to conform to their views to debate with them?

still insulting Comrade, thats anti-revolutionary

At the very least, define your terms before you use them if they are non standard.

However at that point you might as well have just said it in English anyway.

But that's the point. My absolute number one issue with Marxists is that everything they say CAN be said in plain English, but they don't because the gobbledegook is intended to bamboozle the weak minded into going along with their nonsense.

Still not addressing the flaws in your shitty failed ideology. Not very gommie of you, gomrade XDDDDD

wow... it's almost like Marxists have something in common with mental patients

hmmmm..... really makes me think

>why is marxism bad

it's a philosophy based on the ruthless analysis of anything and everything... but itself

You can see how that can end up. They criticize anything and everything but the moment someone does the same to them they recoil.

The very basis of Marx's beliefs is that he rejected all that was known about humans and essentially said "there is no human nature" and then after that without a spec of self awareness said "but humans are naturally good and they like to share and love each other and everything bad in human behavior is because of capitalism".

Why did he believed this? Well all that Karl believed about human nature is because of him observing some primitive tribes and how they behaved, and then concluding that that's what the REAL human nature was. He observed some primitive savages and then thought "we should emulate these stupid cunts dying at 13 from rotten teeth".

Next, you have to realize that there's Marxism as a philosophy has an end and it's a shitty one at that. It doesn't want infinite growth and expansion into unknown. It doesn't wish for the advancement of technology and conquering the far away worlds! No no... It wishes for stagnation and death. It wishes to revert us to the primitive. The role of technology in Marx's mind is the one of a giant reset button to abolish all social power structures and revert us to the primitive "ideal" Marx jerked off to so much.

To abolish the cities and the industries, to scatter the population across the lands and to live from the land in small communes... "in harmony with the nature" they say... baka

Marxism is submission.
Marxism is giving up.
Marxism is going silently into the night.

Nobody cares about Marx's use of the words.

The USSR is communist, as was China, and France is socialist.

Hong Kong is capitalist.

You guys really do deserve the title "the creation science of economics"

youtube.com/watch?v=K9CbgexJLK8

Sup Forums is a safe space.

Any political ideology that disagrees with the safe space dwellers will be silenced by shitposting.

Please leave.

>Shitty ideology

At least communism can kill millions, I dont see any dead or race war from your alt-right

These communism breads are redpilling more normies than the rest of Sup Forums combined. Keep up the great work, comrade.

Soon enough even Chad Normington is going to be fully aware of the murderous nature of authoritarians.

>I don't understand why I'm supposed to use communism's language and views when communist don't use mine.
Because you are the one trying to disprove Marxist theory, ain't you ?

wow it's almost like non-commies have moral standards and care about the human condition

GET THE FUCK OUT PLEASE

DELETE THIS

Because most of those nations consider themselves communist. Now, I don't care what you think communism is, or what Marx thinks communism is, because the communism that is actually affecting the world, the communism that isn't a fantasy utopia in people's heads, is an ugly thing that millions of people have died from.

It doesn't help that I've seen communists consistently switch whenever it is convenient for them. The USSR isn't communist except when you try to brag about the space race, but when we talk about the tens of millions of deaths then all of a sudden you switch your views and it's not "real" communism.

>everything they say CAN be said in plain English, but they don't
What makes you say that ?

>At least communism can kill millions,
Wow really gets my noggin joggin. You've converted me, gomrade.