Was Francisco Franco good for Spain?

Was Francisco Franco good for Spain?

We always see Hitler and Pinochet, but do you guys like Franco?

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>The United States and Jews repay Europe by funneling hundreds of billions of dollars in free money onto the French, English, Italians, Germans.

>Spain is one of several European countries that were NOT totally fucked by WW2

>Have a Fascist government that creates an economy entirely centered around those sweet sweet tourist bucks and year-round agriculture

>European governments are handing out paid vacations like mad-cunts to stop everyone from killing themselves, everyone is going to Spain

>Franco dies

>Tourist money runs out

>European economy recovers and re-balances

>Spain offers fucking nothing

Franco is just another example of Fascism/National Socialism only working stupendously well in the short term, only to utterly fail in the long term without serious injections from outside wealth. West Germany benefited from MASSIVE influxes of American and British investment after the war. If West Germany had been left to its post-fascist devices it'd still be an economic ruin

It was also the fact he did a very, very protectionist economic practice, but Spain didn't really have the resources to do that.

I mean, what about him culturally?

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Definitely, he was a pragmatist and ended up turning Spain into one of the best and most prosperous and economies and countries in the world or at least Europe. Ever since he's gone their economy has fallen completely behind. He instituted a relatively authoritarian Right-Wing technocratic regime that worked very well for the country.

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Catholic to the core. Exaltation of our national pride. At least the Opus Dei politicians in the 60's were good for the country. The problem was later.
Socialism stroke with Felipe González who sold our ass to the OTAN and the EU burning the industry forever, just to get gibs. Now, industry is very weak and uncompetitive. We still get good money from the EU tho.

Also, I forgot, he named the bolshevisk-Jew. A scheme to put down Spanish traditional culture and christian values. See:
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>Franco
>Fascist

At the very beginning to please Adolf and Benito, adopting Fascist symbolism. Later he was like ayy nope.

I think my great grandfather left my family here in Mexico to go back to Spain and suport Francisco Franco somehow.

I think he might have voluntered for some sort of armed forces, but thanks to him I have an european passport now.

So he was the best thing he ever happened to you.

Ya, the EU sort of fucked every European country though, the sooner that shit fest dies the better.

>pic related

He was a traditionalist monarchist, basically wanted the Spain of the Catholic Kings. What he didn't know is that it was pretty fucking dated idea.
If Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera happened to be the head of state, not only would Hitler win the war since Spain would have joined the Axis, but also would have reestablished the Spanish Empire.

In short, as a figurehead? Pretty based, as a politician? Mediocre

Franco was the best Fascist worldwide.

He prove that Fascism actually work, not like Socialism.

>Spain joins the war
>Soviet union shits itself and surrenders
What're you smoking?

I'm Spanish myself, and I really want to visit Spain since it's my homeland.

The only issue is I do not want to step foot in the EU because I'd know every dollar I spend is helping some fucking muslim somewhere in Europe raping the population, and I in good conscience could not allow that to happen.

The only fascist who wasn't a batshit insane megalomaniac who managed to have a successful reign and leave a somewhat positive legacy for his state.

Putin is a good dictator too

He would have given Germany military access and aided them pretty well.

Talking about whom again? Pinochet? Hitler?

He got called a faggot by his father and wanted to fuck his mommy

how can you be so ignorant and speak so confidently?

>flag
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>Hitler?
End result: complete collapse of his ideology and complete anihilation for Germany.
>Pinochet?
Didn't do shit to fix economy in the end, his government was ousted and his ideology defeated.
Regardless, he isn't a fascist or a dictator: a dictator is someone who breaks the current political institution to gain extended power.

Spain had a pretty decent industry back then, but the EU killed them

>Fascism obviously failed long term
>Even through Spain tanked when Franco and fascism dies

Franco was stuck in the past, that's why Spain never got anywhere with him.

An authoritarian right wing leader needs to both cherish tradition, but also be a visionary.

franco did less than republican party of usa.

He did fix the economy later on, hell it's linked in the thread.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_miracle

Spain was a great power, the name of Spain carried economic and politcal weight, now it's been destroyed by EU and Judeo-Masonic coalition to exterminate Spanish culture and traditions.

He was never a fascist, and actually he betrayed the ideals of Primo de Rivera and the Falange. Personally he was a bit too moderate and not really a good enough leader to qualify as a great leader, life under him was decent but not fantastic (although there was the economic miracle). It's just that things have been so shit since he died that by comparison he seems amazing. He also fucked up in letting Spain revert back to democracy.

You mean turning the country from a backwater armpit of Europe into one of the wealthiest countries in the world? Remind me of when the Republicans did something like that. Fuck off and don't contribute to shit you don't know anything about.

He was a good man that saved and conserved spain but didn't carry out revolutionary national syndacalist changes, and that's fine.

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here is franco speaking englishru.

>Spain was a great power
Kek. Maybe in the 1500s you'd be right. Since then Spain has been in chronic decline, interrupted only by periods of occasional slight revival, like the Franco era.

The Spanish are all very cucked, hell even the Falange didn't oppose race mixing back in the 30s. I wish them all the best but don't hold your breath.

He was undoubtedly better than the alternative, that's for sure. But he could've done more to save Primo de Rivera (he basically let him die to eliminate a leadership rival) and he wasn't as good as you'd think. This wasn't Hitler's Germany or even Mussolini's Italy. Franco's Spain was mediocre at best, really, by Western standards. Less degeneracy though, which can never be overlooked.

>I'm Spanish myself
you are from mexico

Spanish real estate prices on the coast skyrocketted when you entered the Eurozone

Franco stole Babies from the Commies and gave them to his supporters,
Best Dictator ever!

Fuck your Helicopters.

There is no problems, but he is not the ideal, that is still Jose Antonio and the points that must be carried out.

NATION - UNITY - EMPIRE

1. We believe in the supreme reality of Spain. The strengthening, elevating, and magnifying of
this reality is the urgent collective goal of all Spaniards. Individual, group, and class interests
must inexorably give way in order to achieve this goal.

2. Spain has a single destiny in the world. Every conspiracy against this common unity is
repulsive. Any kind of separatism is a crime which we shall not pardon. The existing
Constitution, to the degree that it encourages disintegration, weakens this common destiny of
Spain. Therefore we demand its annulment in a thundering voice.

3. We have the determination to build an Empire. We affirm that Spain's historic fulfilment lies
in Empire. We claim for Spain a pre-eminent position in Europe. We can tolerate neither
international isolation nor foreign interference. As regards the countries of Hispanic America, we
favour unification of their culture, economic interests and power. Spain will continue to act as
the spiritual axis of the Hispanic world as a sign of her pre-eminence in worldwide enterprises.

4. Our armed forces- on land, sea, and in the air- must be kept trained and sufficiently large to
assure to Spain at all times its complete independence and a status in the world that befits it. We
shall bestow upon our Armed Forces of land, sea, and air all the dignity they merit, and we shall
cause their military conception of life to infuse every aspect of Spanish life.

5. Spain shall once more seek her glory and her wealth on the sea lanes. Spain must aspire to
become a great maritime power, for reasons of both defence and commerce. We demand for the
fatherland equal status with others in maritime power and aerial routes.

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Nope, I'm no shit skin, my family is white.
My grandmother's family was Spanish, they were settlers to California, and basic farmers. My Grandfather was from Mexico, but he himself was from Spanish parents.

STATE - INDIVIDUAL - LIBERTY

6. Our State will be a totalitarian instrument to defend the integrity of the fatherland. All
Spaniards will participate in this through their various family, municipal, and syndical roles.
There shall be no participation in it by political parties. We shall implacably abolish the system
of political parties and all of their consequences- inorganic suffrage, representation of clashing
groups, and a Parliament of the type that is all too well known.

7. Human dignity, integrity, and freedom are eternal, intangible values. But one is not really free
unless he is a part of a strong and free nation. No one will be permitted to use his freedom
against the nation, which is the bulwark of the fatherland's freedom. Rigorous discipline will
prevent any attempt to envenom and disunite the Spanish people or to incite them against the
destiny of the fatherland.

8. The National-Syndicalist State will permit all kinds of private initiative that are compatible
with the collective interest, and it will also protect and encourage the profitable ones.

No, he was utter shit and plunged the country into almost Dark ages. Also, he was a faggot (literally), and he was a moor lover. Fuck him.

>inb4 fuck off podemita, urr durr

ECONOMY - LABOUR - CLASS STRUGGLE
9. Our conception of Spain in the economic realm is that of a gigantic syndicate of producers.
We shall organise Spanish society corporatively through a system of vertical syndicates for the
various field of production, all working toward national economic unity.

10. We repudiate the capitalistic system which shows no understanding of the needs of the
people, dehumanises private property, and causes workers to be lumped together in a shapeless,
miserable mass of people who are filled with desperation. Our spiritual and national conception
of life also repudiates Marxism. We shall redirect the impetuousness of those working classes
who today are led astray by Marxism, and we shall seek to bring them into direct participation in
fulfilling the great task of the national state.

11. The National-Syndicalist State will not cruelly stand apart from man's economic struggles,
nor watch impassively while the strongest class dominates the weakest. Our regime will
eliminate the very roots of class struggle, because all who work together in production shall
comprise one single organic entity. We reject and we shall prevent at all costs selfish interests
from abusing others, and we shall halt anarchy in the field of labour relations.

12. The first duty of wealth- and our State shall so affirm- is to better the conditions of the
people. It is intolerable that enormous masses of people should live wretchedly while a small
number enjoy all kinds of luxuries.

13. The State will recognise private property as a legitimate means for achieving individual,
family, and social goals, and will protect it against the abuses of large-scale finance capital,
speculators, and money lenders.

14. We shall support the trend toward nationalisation of banking services and, through a system
of Corporations, the great public utilities.

>. My Grandfather was from Mexico
Then Mexican
>but he himself was from Spanish parents.
no , WE are Spanish, you don´t ...you born in america

15. All Spaniards have the right to work. Public agencies must of necessity provide support for
those who find themselves in desperate straits. As we proceed toward a totally new structure, we
shall maintain and strengthen all the advantages that existing social legislation gives to workers.

16. Unless they are disabled, all Spaniards have the duty to work. The National-Syndicalist State
will not give the slightest consideration to those who fail to perform some useful function and
who try to live as drones at the expense of the labour of the majority of people.

16. Unless they are disabled, all Spaniards have the duty to work. The National-Syndicalist State
will not give the slightest consideration to those who fail to perform some useful function and
who try to live as drones at the expense of the labour of the majority of people.

LAND

17. We must, at all costs, raise the standard of living in the countryside, which is Spain's
permanent source of food. To this end, we demand agreement that will bring to culmination
without further delay the economic and social reforms of the agricultural sector.

18. Our program of economic reforms will enrich agricultural production by means of the
following:
By assuring a minimum remuneration to all agricultural producers.

By demanding that there be restored to the countryside, in order to provide it with an adequate
endowment, a portion of that which the rural population is paying to the cities for intellectual and
commercial services.

You really gonna pull this shit, user?

By organising a truly national system of agricultural credit which will lend money to farmers at
low interest against the guarantee of their property and crops, and redeem them from usury and
local tyrants.

By spreading education with respect to better methods of farming and sheep raising.

By ordering the rational utilisation of lands in accordance with their suitability and with
marketing possibilities.

By adjusting tariff policy in such a way as to protect agriculture and the livestock industry.

By accelerating reclamation projects. By rationalising the units of cultivation, so as to
eliminate wasted latifundia and uneconomic, miniscule plots.

19. Our program of social reforms in the field of agriculture will be achieved:

By redistributing arable land in such a way as to revive family farms and give energetic
encouragement to the syndicalisation of farm labourers.

By redeeming from misery those masses of people who presently are barely eking out a living on
sterile land, and by transferring such people to new and arable lands.

20. We shall undertake a relentless campaign of reforestation and livestock breeding, and we
shall punish severely those who resist it. We shall support the compulsory, temporary
mobilisation of all Spanish youth for this historic goal of rebuilding the national commonwealth.

21. The State may expropriate without indemnity lands of those owners who either acquired
them or exploited them illegally.

22. It will be the primary goal of the National-Syndicalist State to rebuild the communal
patrimonies of the towns.

NATIONAL EDUCATION - RELIGION

23. It shall be the essential mission of the State to attain by means of rigorous disciplining of
education a strong, united national spirit, and to instil in the souls of future generations a sense of
rejoicing and pride in the fatherland.
All men shall receive pre-military training to prepare them for the honour of being enlisted in the
National and Popular Army of Spain.

24. Cultural life shall be organised so that no talent will be undeveloped because of insufficient
economic means. All who merit it shall be assured ready access to a higher education.

25. Our Movement incorporates the Catholic meaning- of glorious tradition, and especially in
Spain- of national reconstruction. The Church and the State will co-ordinate their respective
powers so as to permit no interference or activity that may impair the dignity of the State or
national integrity.

NATIONAL REVOLUTION

PdR was a lot better but still he was only civic at best.

I weep for Spain.

26. The Falange Espanola Tradicionalista y de las JONS demands a new order, as set forth in
the foregoing principles. In the face of the resistance from the present order, it calls for a
revolution to implant this new order. Its method of procedure will be direct, bold, and combative.
Life signifies the art and science of warfare (milicia) and must be lived with a spirit that is
purified by service and sacrifice.

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>abortion 150k
if there is a god, he definitely hates humanity

He probably does at this point, true. It's just so fucking depressing seeing normalfags pull this shit.

Since the entire libcucks and leftist hates him til now, he must be really good for us

>Nationalsindicalism
>Primo de Rivera

Why do sudacas always try to claim Spanish ancestry? Don't they know that Spain is just the Mexico of Europe.

Spain doesn't need non Iberians.

Wow Caneda what a fucking moron
When Franco died in the 70's Spain was the 10th world industrial economy, the first years of franco all the economy was based in the autarchy, we also sell things to the axis, Spain didn't went to the WWII and that's what save our economy and Franco, just like Salazar didn't support England, Spain nowadays is the 3rd tourist destiny, Spain wasn't in the oil crisis in the 70's because fuck Israel, we had 4% unemployment back then, we haven't to buy energy to France, not like Italy, and if he lived 10 years more we could have even nukes. Spain was a catholic country and was better than what is today, yes we have tourism in the south and in the Mediterranean but also lots of industry in the north and in Madrid