What does Sup Forums think about labor unions?

What does Sup Forums think about labor unions?

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Absolute degeneracy.

Waste of money. Worker's do not have rights. If you want rights, hire your own workers.

Political tool, often controlled by leftists and commies. Should be replaced by state-run institution.
If workers don't like it - too bad. They can either look for another job or, if the government really mistreats them, vote somebody else in during the next elections. Most countries run on working class so they can't afford to treat them like shit anyway.

I don't have a problem with unions, Carpenter, Plumbers, etc. It's the public employee unions that piss me off.

They and collective bargaining are fine in and of themselves, but not when they become co-opted and end up becoming entangled with the government itself. The Arbeitsfront, like your logo pic, might have been a better alternative overall. Workers need protection, etc., I think everybody agrees to that. The thing is at this point productivity is so high that they aren't as necessary as they once were since companies can afford to give more to workers and have found it pays off to keep them productive. Also stuff like high-quality and high-paying jobs like software engineering, etc. have eaten into them. Honestly something like individual or group bargaining websites may be better at this point.

ITT workers who took the blue pill.

Unions are the final red pill?

It's kind of funny because red = communism and unions are historically associated with it.

Some take shit too far to justify their dues, but overall they do a decent job of advocating for people who by themselves can't stand up against large corporations, wealthy business owners, and the bosses who often are financially incentived to pay shitty wages and have unsafe and unsavory working conditions.
7/10

Not necessarily unions, just saying the responses are bluepilled as fuck
>yeah fuck me in the ass harder, I can take it because I'm tough, look at all those betas afraid of dick in their ass

skilled labor unions like welders, carpenters, plumbers, electricians etc. are redpilled

police unions, medical care unions are cancer

teachers unions are literally hitler

This honestly. Unions have been taken over by leftists and kikes in the USA but red-pilled, race realist syndicalist movements were what lead to fascism in the first place. The reason syndicalism doesn't work in America is because it's taboo here to purge the shitskins from labor and ban the Jews from finance and management.

Exactly, obviously a lot of unions are corrupt everyone-gets-a-gold-star bullshit but I've worked on the rigs and its also clear we're being (((trained))) to think its tough to get fucked over

>This honestly. Unions have been taken over by leftists and kikes in the USA but red-pilled, race realist syndicalist movements were what lead to fascism in the first place. The reason syndicalism doesn't work in America is because it's taboo here to purge the shitskins from labor and ban the Jews from finance and management.

also this

usurious finance capitalism and marxist communism are two sides of the same semitic coin

Communist and criminal infiltration avenues. They should be banned.

good is good news for me, i'm thinking about a welding career, my dad knows people that could get me in

>Yeah, I want to get fucked in the ass: the thread

If corporations had their way, they would make your ass into cattle.

Train to be an underwater welder they make mad dosh

The relationship between employer and employee would be far more positive if markets were deregulated and you couldn't sue people for literally everything.

I know but he was saying it's usually consecutive days on end but a ton of money when you finally get the time off
I want cash

respect man, you should do it. make bank and can live basically anywhere you want

Unions are literally fucking Commie scum. Anyone who is for unions in our modern era is one of three things: a retard, a communist, or in the mob. That's it.

The US hasn't needed unions going back to at least Henry Ford, if ever.

They were infiltrated and commandeered by the mafia and the commies long ago. Anyone that is in a union is fundamentally anti-American and should be shot on site.

Fuck you and fuck your union. You're ruining this country and I'd piss and spit on your grave.

Police, fire, medical, teachers.

Officer unions who do shit like threaten politicians with violence or go on strike. "Tenure" for god damn elementary school teachers. I live in Massachusetts and I don't even want to think about this bullshit with police detectives in Boston making $400k a year on their dumbass overtime that is only available because the entirety of city hall is in their pocket.

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Unions in any sort of government position are a festering stew of corruption back-dealing and handouts.

I want a fast car to drive around when i'm off, that's all I want

Back on the day they did some pretty good things ensuring people actually had enough of a wage to live after the industrial revolution and such

Now they're basically scams who do almost fuck all for working men

THIS

Good goy

>please rape my face mr. noseberg

We need to purge them all. Maybe we can let the police keep their unions/cartels since they're right wing if they help us organize the right wing death squads.

Actually something that should be said is that private unions are in general totally fine but public unions besides possibly police and firefighters and other life-endangering professions are fucking cancer and need to be eradicated.

>labor unions?
needed & based as fuck

Construcion unions are good, I belong to one. Before I got into my union I never had health insurance or a retirement plan, now I have both. I agree public employee unions are shit, they give us all a bad name, but we're not all like that. My union doesn't hire off an unemployment list like most others do, so there's real competition for jobs. If you are a shit welder, you don't get hired much.

lol. You dumb kike faggots. I'm the whitest motherfucker you know.

Listen, you need to look in the mirror and realize just how much you're fucking yourself and your neighbor. God knows you won't, of course, because you're all ugly, inbred, fucktards who suck off Commies in the dockyards after 10 on Saturday nights.

I'm not gonna stay here and call you all names, even if you deserve it. Fundamentally deserve it. Down to your very core.

All I ask is that you read up on unions. Not just the single idea behind a union when they first formed (although you need to as well), look into the history of the unions, look into the history of the leadership of the unions, and look into the things the unions have actually done. And then go to Church, and then ask yourself and ask God, I mean truly ask yourself and ask God, how am I not a fucking Commie piece of shit? And how can I save myself from the eternal hellfire for being a unionized Commie piece of fucking shit?

And then kill yourselves.

And spend eternity in hellfire.

Fuck you.

Commie fucking scum.

i was welding (argon based, mainly working with alu) to pay off student days. go for it.

New bluepill pasta?

>student days
what was your education?

Wtf is bluepilled about that.

BA graphic design
MA science visualisation

Basically this.

explain the graphic design for me

It's funny how you're only really talking about the IWW.

Unions historically lost against big business (Haymarket, Pullman Strike, Homestead Steel Strike), yet they're the reason you even get any rights as a worker. Why would any company in treat their workers fairly? To be nice? No, because that would destroy profits.

Personally, I don't really like Unions, and the people in them are usually dicks (muh pipefitters 302 get fuckin rekt), but they've been vital to giving the average work rights.

This is good though, provided we stop excessive immigration and allow wages to rise again.

Maybe we can go back, or get closer to single breadwinners again.

> MA Science Visualization
Nigger what? What even is that?

better than being a retarded nazi or a pretend conservative online.

much better in fact.

you faggots might actually realize that minorities aren't a plague and you're not entitled to some ridiculous quality of life that excludes those not in your preferred "tribe"

youtu.be/Hznlp-DwgSw?t=279

Until the US government literally murdered all the socialists for trying to improve workers lives and give them some dignity.

welding is better, trust me...
you at least have the feeling you done something,
made physical thing, fixed a bike or a boat.

gd is total shit, you make crap ads for shit products,
sometimes you animate them because thats trendy now,
and then might give you several bucks more,
"deo 3000, helps you smell +24 longer"
and then you watch this shit, and work with it on your fucking macbook, and overpriced products.
clients complain about fucking everything, send you emails at night.

>Why would any company in treat their workers fairly? To be nice? No, because that would destroy profits.
Again, we haven't needed unions since Henry Fucking Ford.

You're a fucking retard. Average worker's rights my ass.

Can't work when (((they))) say you gotta strike.
Can't eat unless (((they))) say negotiate you can eat.
Can't break unless (((they))) negotiate you can break.
Can't even negotiate your own fucking wage unless (((they))) say.

You're fucking Commies. All of you. You're worth nothing more than the 3 year old sidewalk gum I walked over on my way home. You have commie dick buried so down yours, your daddy's, your granddaddy's, and his granddaddy's before him's throat, you can't even remember the last time you were able to take a free breath of fresh air.

I mean fuck, union faggots, especially young union faggots who talk about "muh daddy got me into the union..." are the biggest fucking retards on the planet. Commies and anti-American fucking pussies and they don't even know it.

God damn it. I swear to fucking Christ, on the day of the rope, every commie union faggot will be first against the wall.

Holy fuck. Just thinking about them makes my blood boil.

God damn it, I hate you motherfuckers. Holy shit. I fucking hate you.

I'm in one. 80% of the rank and file in my union voted for Trump. The higher ups tried to shill for Clinton and got BTFO. Most people just weren't having it. Her comments about the coal miners swayed a lot of them.

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That's commie talk. I like commie talk.

Yeah, after USA has done purging the socialists, the new union leadership are the same politically connected, establishment cuck bullshit.

I do not care for it. I assume, before Trump, you were for Bernie.

Sometimes useful, especially when the factory owner is a Jew.

i did entry level comp science and it was fucking bogus
called for hours at a time on a PC doing hw

I think Gold Mountin Share Blue is spamming us beause a Congressional investigation found an Obama DOJ slush fund for groups like La Raza.

Calm down duuuuuddddddeeeee most people aren't even in unions anyway, kek.

>Hey goy-- er fellow white person, Jews are the union leaders, not the CEOs
How fucking stupid do you think I am?

data visualisation
3d representations
etc.
>f.e. pic related

usa can't go back, usa already dug a hole and started burring itself 2.5 decades ago.

They're good while the the job is in demand but when it becomes obsolete they do more harm then good. Public education and job training would reduce the need for unions.

>mad about proles having rights
>and not dropping dead at age 30 after working for 16 hours straight
How many levels of cuckoldry are you on?

only minorities i have a problem with is jews. chinks are probably gonna be a problem too but no where near as bad as the kikes. go suck some globalist dick you faggot

that's a dude

>Implying I don't like traps.

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Proud union member here. I've always wondered why the US doesn't have their own labo(u)r party.

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>jewish worker
dont make me laugh, kike

No, you don't understand. You seriously don't under fucking stand. They all need to die. All of them. All. Of. Them.

You're misunderstanding me you stupid leaf fucks because you, like your ancestors, are stupid fucking retards who have no concept of history or principles. If you did, you'd be American. Instead you literally live on a separate continent from your ruler like the truest of all cucks. You won't understand this, of course. Because you're fucking leafs.

Anyway. You're not understanding because they've both fucked everything up. The corporations and the unions. The Jews lead them all.

God fucking damn it. God fucking damn it.

This country and this world needs a revolution and a purge of fucking proportions not seen since the old testament.

This country was founded on ideals. Ideals that became corrupted day fucking one after the founders died, in the same way Christianity did the first day after the last apostle died.

Guess who was there both times.

The Jews. The fucking Jews.

Don't you get it? I mean how can you not fucking see it? They control both sides to give the perception that "hurr durr look at muh worker's rights! well golly gee willickers i'm gettin' pretty good union pay here...i mean, the union has MY best interests in mind. I mean, I pay dues after all! Shucks, hopefully next time they can negotiate another dollar increase on muh paycheck. Hyuck hyuck!"

All Commies will hang. Hang by the neck until they are dead. And then they will be spit upon their graves. And they will hang next to the moneylenders and the moneychangers and the usurists in front of the temple of the Lord.

BRRRAAAAAAPPPPPPP

>tfw too smart to blame the Jews for everything, because I know it's actually the Eternal Anglo

you have no idea how many jews died in gulags

You hardly explain any of your points. You're autistic and pathetic.

Please KYS.

It's bedtime Mr. Molymeme, you have work tomorrow.

Well, they can go either way. Of course if you work in one with niggers, that won't work at all or else you'd be doing all the work while the niggers played with themselves.
The smartest thing I've even saw when it came to work unions was in the early 90's, when I lived in St. Louis still, I worked for one employer who made it an OPTION after you were there for more than 2 yrs. Of course you had to pay dues to the union for those who joined which they took out of the paycheck, and from what I heard it wasn't much. But I never bothered to join. I dunno why? I guess cuz I was poor back then.

>mad about jews
>follows a jewish religion and worships a jewish god

What point needs more explanation, son of a Commie whore? Tell me, what exactly do you need spelled out for you?

You stupid cunt you live in a country ruled by the eternal anglo. And you live within 100 miles of America. Your entire country. God damn it, leafs truly are the worst.

No.

>>mad about jews
>>follows a jewish religion and worships a jewish god
Leaf fundamentally knows nothing about Christ. Surprise, surprise.

>We need to organize a revolution against the bourg---er Jews but it's not Marxism guys
>We need to unite---er band together but they aren't unions guys
6/10, you had me going for a bit

I'm not saying band together. I'm saying work for yourself for fucks sake and the love of God. God fucking damn it.

you are a moron

>divided, indivual efforts
So ineffectually, like good goys.

Explain to me why you're such a good goyim and love having a boot shoved in your ass.

Also, what do you do for a living? You're probably a NEET faggot.

lol. That's rich coming from Austria.

A leaf doesn't understand the concept of individualism. I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you!

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No. I was for Ron Paul the last two elections. I was in the Army then. I never had any contact with unions before. This is a first for me. I get lots of dirty looks for my Ron Paul stickers on my truck.

>A leaf doesn't understand the concept of individualism. I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you!
Great rebuttal bro, keep telling the bluepilled goys they're more powerful divided.

I forgot to tag you in my Ron Paul post.

lol. Nope. Independent business owner. Like a man. Unlike commie jew faggot union workers.

I work for myself. Answer to know one.

Listen, if you want to be a cucked faggot all your life, by all means, stay unionized.

Even if you really were skilled labor, I mean, hell I know it's crazy talk and everything that it's way too much work for you to actually go and talk to a lawyer and form your own llc and small contracting business, pay for insurance out of your own pocket, and work on your own. I mean, God forbid you dumb retards do anything like work for a living. You know, work for freedom. Like a man does. An American man does. God forbid.

God knows this concept is too hard for you Commie faggots to understand.

They're granted artificial power by the government which messes up the free market and causes our jobs to be sent overseas.

My father was a state police officer, and he never promoted past sergeant. He could've gotten at least 3 ranks higher by now, but he actually loses money by promoting because the union doesn't cover officers.

>i watched 2 videos of sargon of akkad
>now i will spread my knowledge everywhere
kys faggot

By "officers" I mean they don't help anyone who's rank is "lieutenant" or higher.

>Great rebuttal bro, keep telling the bluepilled goys they're more powerful divided.

lol. Even your mother's ashamed how much commie jew cock you've sucked, and she's a commie jew.

Jesus Christ, someday you're gonna wake up at 65 and realize just how much of a worthless piece of shit life you've actually lived. And then you'll die, another worthless dead piece of shit commie jew who fucked up everything for everyone.

C'est la vie. Mark your grave with the hammer and sickle so I know a good spot to piss on.

>Independent business owner. Like a man

>Most countries run on working class so they can't afford to treat them like shit anyway.

oh really?

Anyone here got a rags to riches success story? Cause I'm tired of hearing all the bitching from commies.

Inefficient, harmful and should be crushed.

Sargon of Akkad. I'm laughin' Austria. Laughin'. Sargon of Akkad. Get the fuck outta here. Sargon of Akkad doesn't know shit.

Yes, Austria. I own my own business. I know, you guys don't have that concept over there. It's 70 years later and you still haven't washed Hitler's socialist jew sperm out your mouth. Not my problem.

You're out of your element, Donnie. Time for bed. You have to get up early for you gibsmedats.

>Independent business owner
kek, no wonder you're so angry: You can't pay your employees like shit and work them like dogs.

And if you pay taxes and follow the law, then you do answer to somebody faggot.

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You're not mad because I'm a Jew (only Jews want to perpetuate ineffectual methods of dealing with the banking and corruption situation... which of us does that sound like?). You're mad because you've lost the argument and are upping the shitposting because "I was only pretending to be retarded".