On a visit to Estonia on March 1, Sigmar Gabriel said that, while Germany accepts it must increase its defense spending from today's 1.2 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), 2 percent is too much.
"Germany needs to do more, no question about it," he said, but it is "completely unrealistic to raise expectations in Germany or among our partners that we will add 30 billion euros to our defense spending over the next eight years."
Germany has set a more modest goal of increasing spending by 2 billion euros, to 37 billion euros, with the goal of reaching 39.2 billion euros by 2020.
"We also have to consider whether Europe wants a Germany that invests 60 billion euros a year in the German Army... This would be military supremacy in Europe, and I think our neighbors would not like to see that."
But he noted that NATO's target of each country spending at least 2 percent of GDP on defense is not legally binding on members, who pledged in 2014 to "aim to move towards the 2 percent guideline within a decade."
Matthew Ortiz
I would fight on the front lines to eliminate the German leadership.
US-UK-RU alliance vs Germany and their cronies, round 3
David Thomas
We would have to spend additional billions of euros just to catch up with all these years where the budget was under 2% of the GDP.
But I think the first things they should do is learn how to spend money wisely, before pumping in more and more.
Jordan Davis
then maybe germany should help us pay the 2% other countries aren't paying
Jeremiah Fisher
>RU alliance kys literal enemy of the west
Parker Nguyen
What the fuck kind of attitude is that. "Oh, we don't want a good military, because we're Germany, and our neighbors are such cucked faggots that the mere presence of an ally with weapons is enough to make our pussies tighten".
Cameron Gutierrez
>consider whether Europe wants a Germany that invests 60 billion euros a year in the German Army... This would be military supremacy in Europe, and I think our neighbors would not like to see that."
He's literally fucking crippling his country's own defense because it might hurt other European nation's fucking feelings? Muh fourth reich, if we actually follow the fucking NATO guidelines?
The point of a military is to be able to defend yourself from your neighbors, not make them sleep soundly at night because you're not too strong.
Anthony Kelly
BUT WE STILL GOT PLENTY OF MONEY FOR NIGGERS!!!!
Jackson Reed
2% is too much. Better keep mooching off of the Americans
Lincoln James
Das rite. We better spend the money on refugees.
Christian Collins
none of those 4 can afford a war
Evan Jenkins
BUT, it's perfectly fine to pay up to 20% of gdp for the EU army :)
Carson Thomas
>hahaha 2% >silly USA >how is that possible when we spend 99% on rapefugees and prosecuting right-wing terrorism
Xavier Phillips
>We have enough money to take in billions of economic migrants.
>We don't have enough money to defend the country.
Charles Russell
But open borders is
GermCucks everyone
Luis Jackson
shoving a bayonette in your ass costs nothing
Ian Watson
Time to moderate our commitment
Samuel Carter
It's just a dumb excuse to try and get out of spending money and having responsibility. No one in their right mind would have a problem with Germany having a army capable of fulfilling NATO responsibilities.
Liam Howard
Interesting. I thought the 2% spending figure was a treaty requirement, not a guideline. Still, a hair splitting arguement based on legalisms isn't going to persuade an American audience.
The reality here is that Trump is mostly just looking for a pretext to pull out of NATO. If the Germans want to give us one, that would be great.
Aaron Hall
This
The only way to change this is to call them out directly and put them in the world spotlight
Get the people on your side then you can dump them like the trash they are
Chase Smith
You'd leave an organisation because one member is being a dick? Why not remove the member instead? Let them pay for their own defense.
Parker Bailey
>This would be military supremacy in Europe, and I think our neighbors would not like to see that wtf i love germs now!
Jaxon Cooper
Russia could one day be part of the West. Worth trying.
Jayden Richardson
The US should match only the lowest contribution percentage If say a country only gives 1% this year, then next year the US should give 1%
Get that shit in writing
Benjamin Gutierrez
Why do niggers always eat food while shopping?
Connor Wood
Nobody hands anything to NATO, dude. NATO is just a coordination organization.
The % is for a country's own military spending. If the US only used 1% for its military then millions of US jobs would be lost.
Luke Wright
>Why do niggers always eat food while shopping? It's free. At least that is what they believe.
Nathaniel Bailey
>this is unrealistic >accepting the entirety of the earth's refugees isn't
Thomas Smith
>a Mexican-Paki-Central Asian alliance Really jogged the nog
Aaron Allen
That money should be going to niggers and mudslimes instead.
Samuel Richardson
>The US should match only the lowest contribution percentage >If say a country only gives 1% this year, then next year the US should give 1%
NATO is basically "friends of US policy", don't you know that?
NATO is your own brainchild to have a permanent foothold in Europe against the Soviets. Now it's so old and dusty you think you've discovered some kind of relic that belongs to someone else, and that other people should take care of it.
Same thing with the UN honestly, but that was not just the US, but all the allied nations (formerly league of nations). Now the west thinks the UN is stupid and purposeless. We fucking created it. Nobody else could be responsible.
James Peterson
>USA forces EU to pay more in defense spending
>Russia steps up pressure in the east
>EU forced to cut their welfare state
>Riots by refugees and liberals alike
>Forced to spend more on defense spending to prevent anarchy
Goodnight EU
>4d Chess
Jayden Lewis
>EU army is created >just the same as Nato but without Turkey and Londonistan >Europeans are no longer forced to die for Israel
Caleb Gray
>We can spend billions of dollars importing in Muslims who rape our women and kill our people >We can't live up to the military expectations of our allies even though we constantly SHRIEK about the ebil Russians about to invade Europe if the Amerikaaners aren't there to protect us
The ETERNAL FUCKING GERMAN just can't pick a side can he.
Bentley Lewis
Yeah you'll still be dying for the IMF but at least it's not Israel.
Jason Moore
desu its only logical to reassess the 2% of GDP demand. The Soviet union was (comparably) stronger back then and GDP has increased a lot since then. 1% of GDP would probably be more then enough for NATO to be strong enough to discourage any Russian attacks.
But as long as its set at 2% they should STFU and pay up.
Levi Gonzalez
Germans have hundreds of billions to resettle refugees and pay for them and their future generations, but not enough for a halfway decent army. top kek
(I hate you so much)
Zachary Green
You've been trying since the fall of the USSR. Do note if you keep laying with dogs you'll wake up with fleas someday.
Ryan Bailey
I'm ok with this
Gavin Richardson
Nowadays I don't think anyone fears the Germans.
Sebastian Campbell
You're delusional. They don't want to be part of the west, they see themselves as a seperate civilization.
Eli Allen
>We are not trying to conquer you!Seriously!Take a look at our mililitary spendings!
Lucas Brown
...
Aiden King
that jew nose..
Colton Diaz
>spend all their money on social programs and taking care of refugees >doesn't want to spend on defense for NATO
Cool how about we contribute only 1% of our GDP to NATO and the UN? It's time to pull out of the UN and cut our contributions to NATO.
Jordan Hill
>Germany's foreign minister calls 2% NATO target completely unrealistic
Then it is unrealistic for them to be in NATO. Pay your dues or get kicked out.
Adam Hall
>Europeans are no longer forced to die for Israel >When the EU is ran by a bunch of European hating kikes and commies
ya ok, keep telling yourself lies
Wyatt Perez
to be fair, he probably talks about the country borders inside the EU that will remain open and not our external border
Cameron Fisher
If the USA will never sacrifice one soldier for the Baltic statelets, how many would Germany sacrifice?