Weird that such old architecture could withstand such a blow and not fall, whereas the Twin Towers, built in modern times and specifically to withstand a plane attack, fell like nothing...
>The B-25 Empire State Building crash was a 1945 aircraft accident in which a B-25 Mitchell bomber, piloted in thick fog over New York City, crashed into the Empire State Building. The accident did not compromise the building's structural integrity, but it did cause fourteen deaths (three crewmen and eleven people in the building) and damage estimated at $1,000,000 ($13,303,142 in 2016 dollars)
>A B-25 is the same weight, has the same speed and the same amount of fuel as a 757 and a 767
Kill yourself
Jace Sanchez
Of course it didn't fall. There hadn't been a Clinton administration to plant charges in it yet.
Jason Torres
SAY IT WITH ME,
HYPERSTATIC STRUCTURES
Ayden Edwards
>An ancient building made out of wood, mud, and dogshit is somehow the same as the Twin Towers, the most advanced and defensively structured buildings in the world
No pham you kill yourself fart fart fart
Bentley Reyes
>Twin Towers >the most advanced and defensively structured buildings in the world
pick ONLY one
Landon Martinez
Proving the Twin Towers were brought down by explosives doesn't prove it wasn't Al Qaeda. The last time I checked they were actually quite fond of explosives. And the opposite is true too by the way. If it was planes that doesn't prove that Bush and the US Govt. weren't involved. The Bush family and Republican party had long standing ties with Osama Bin Laden and could have easily directed him to carry out the attacks with aircraft.
This whole argument about the tensile strength of steel and the engineering minutia doesn't really do anything to do with finding who's responsible. The whole thing is probably a smoke screen, frankly.
You can also make a similar argument about the JFK assassination but w/e. Go on arguing about bullshit none of you actually understand while the real culprits go free.
Christopher Robinson
>changing the goal posts this hard If only the government was this blatant lol
Henry Jenkins
Did you even read my post?
I don't have a problem accepting the governments complicity in 9/11 but my point is that proving the involvement of explosive charges doesn't in and of itself prove the government did it. it proves only that explosives were involved. Plenty of people can use explosives, muslim extremists chief among them.
Bentley Fisher
With respect to the year the first's construction was begun, 1967, vs. the Empire State Building's, 1930, he's abso-fucking-lutely RIGHT. You fail to dispute his argument in an capacity. DISPUTE it correctly, you hellbound shill; with facts, and rationale.
Murderous. Satanic sycophant. Villain. (((YOU))).
Benjamin Butler
It wasn't a shitty Japanese design.
Jason Harris
bumping for that german to post about cgi planed until the thread hits the post limit
Levi Ross
What did you mean by this tho
Aaron Torres
Copier paper burning for five hours can soften high rise-grade steel?
What the fuck was burning in there? Ceiling panels? Office carpet? All of the jet fuel combusted in the impact fireball.
Jose Cooper
The WTC wasn't designed to be more resistant to collision than the ESB, it was designed to have more open floorspace. The Chrysler building and ESB were pushing skyscrapers to the point of diminishing returns because the amount of steel support structure necessary to keep building higher was eating into the usable space. WTC was designed to have the support structure as the perimeter of the building and the interior was attached at each level. This allowed each floor to be divided according to the needs of the tenent instead of carved up by structural support beams. The minus side of this construction method is that once the higher floors started cascading downward they kept causing lower floors to collapse.
Lincoln Lewis
(((Minoru Yamasaki))) designed the WTC
Levi Wilson
B25 Maximum speed: 271.97 mph (437.70 km/h) Range: 1,350 miles (2,173 km) Length: 52' 11" (16.13 m) Wingspan: 67' 7" (20.60 m) Cruising speed: 230 mph (370.15 km/h) Passengers: 5
The Empire State building didn't have the Mossad working on its fire suppression systems the week before the plane hit.
Joshua Reed
>blaming the designer when the building was extremely sturdy by design You cannot be shitting me
Christian Powell
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Camden Hill
Well, was it the jews that flew into ESB or was it an actual accident?
Bentley Thomas
fog
Jacob Johnson
aircraft in 1945 carried less fuel and were smaller than modern aircraft not to mention they likely used a different form of fuel. Modern jet fuel burns hot enough to weaken steel which would then collapse under its own weight.
Tyler Sullivan
Obv (((they))) did both.
Carson Perez
>t.moron
Piston driven aircraft like a B25 are fueled by high octane gasoline
Jet aircraft are fueled by essentially kerosene or diesel which is much less volatile
Both burn at similar temperatures but the gas is much much more 'explosive'
Basically you would probably rather have the kerosene laden jet fly into your building than the gas filled one
Mason Gray
Planes come in different sizes and carry different amounts of fuel?
You only compared the cruising speed and passenger count. I can't make any other observations. Be more consistent.
Camden Watson
Dude the Twin Towers where built like shit they just wanted to cram as many offices as they could in them. The empire state building is built like a fucking rock. This is a case of they just don't build em like they used to.
