But universal healthcare would hurt us

But universal healthcare would hurt us...

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I agree. Let's stop defending our allies. Let them pay for their own protection. You seem to agree with Trump on NATO.

Nobody asked u retards to invade Iraq.

Voting GOP has consequences.

This is a stupid argument
We already spend enough on medicare and medicaid alone to cover every citizen with the highest funded single payer program in the world.

Universal healthcare is not a matter of cost, the money to cover it is already being spent on healthcare by the government.

>War with muh Russians!!!

What is the fuck is saudi Arabia planning

>Putin seizes Crimea
>Putin attacks eastern Ukraine
>Putin threatens NATO
>Putin hacks the US election
>Russia threatens WW3 if Hillary wins
>Russian spy ship off the US coast
>Russian jets buzz US ships


Right wing retards: PUTIN DINDU NUFFIN

>Trump is GOP
when will this shitty meme die?

>hacks US election

It's not like the CIA has ever lied before.

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Okay, we'll stop defending the entire world.

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>Killing mudslimes almost uncontested vs fighting russia over some slav lands
THE GOP IS EVIL WAR BAD BAD NO

>>Putin seizes Crimea
Putin accepted crimea after crimea voted on it after ukraines legitimate government was overthrown by fascist
>>Putin attacks eastern Ukraine
The only person upholding the treaty everyone had with ukraine, by defending the legitimate government
>>Putin threatens NATO
Other way around
>>Putin hacks the US election
He did not hack the election and half of what they claim he hacked he could not have hacked, the rest they wont even be specific about
>>Russia threatens WW3 if Hillary wins
Russia warned of what we had already been saying for a while, that hillary would start ww3
>>Russian spy ship off the US coast
everyone has spy submarines all over the place
>>Russian jets buzz US ships
a common naval occurrence that has been happening since forever. A form of friendly rivalry between the two navies that is not atypical or noteworthy

But Bush and Putin were best pals.

Hillary was basically defeated by her and her staffs/DNC emails. If the Russians were able to fuck her up with just emails... imagine what they will do when they actually try to hurt the neo-liberals.

Typical Canadian male banter, pic related

look up NATO spending

USA is paying for EU defense. If you agree with them paying more and us playing less you are on trump's side

Dems are in favor of usa being police force of the world and intervention. You can't be anti-Trump on this without being anti-dem.

lol

You realize Russia threatened WW3 right?

you know, the rapport that had zero evidence?

>But Bush and Putin were best pals.

Yeah that worked out great for America.

Are right wing retards so fucking cucked, that they think Putin just wants what's best for America?

Nobody asked them to invade Syria or Libya.

Voting Democrat has consequences.

zero evidence lol

Flynn is gone
Sessions just recused himself
Multiple investigations are ongoing

Trump is losing his shit and trying to discredit the media

putin is anti globalist
whats best for america is anti globalist

it is an overlapping interest

Dat feel when your great nation has free universal healthcare

Bubba seems to be ok with old Putin.

>we spend lots of money for something
>that somehow justifies spending a lot of money for something else

Free market healthcare doesn't work.
Instead of trying to explain why it doesn't work, overwhelming majority of economists just repeat the mantra.
In this way they're literally no different from fucking communists.
Stop ignoring facts.
Americans spend most on healthcare per capita yet receive shitty healthcare relatively speaking.
It's obvious the system is inefficient.
Try to explain why instead of going against facts.

Right wing retards think Obama invaded Syria and Libya like Bush invaded Iraq

Holy shit u morons are clueless

lol

Putin is pro-Russian and anti-American. The sooner u retards realize he's not on your team, the better.

Obama crippled that piece of shit country and rightfully so.

source

I DO NOT LIKE IT WITH THE SKIN DEE. I AM NOT AAALLLLOWWWED TO EAT IT WITH THE SKIN! I'M NOT ALLOWED!!!

Bill was based af tho

noice 1 australia

>yet receive shitty healthcare relatively speaking
It's one of, if not the best healthcare in the world, bucko.

we are probably the greatest of the welfare states

Holy shit, that's almost half as expensive as the direct cost of the 2008 economic collapse precipitated by the deregulated and unfettered greed of the banks.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>one of the best healthcare systems in the world

>Bill was based af tho

Not according to any fucking metric. I dare you to find me any analysis which claims American healthcare is best.
You won't find a single one. In fact WHO report put you below 30th place.

the united states spends over $2 trillion a year on welfare and healthcare.

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Not system, but the care itself.

Sure, if you're fucking rich.

Look at the NHS, the beacon for universal healthcare around the world. It's falling to bits because of the ageing and rising population.

Thank christ I can get private healthcare fairly cheap through my work, when I broke my collarbone last year it much nicer going to one of their clinics that some shit NHS one full of kids and shit nurses.

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According to cancer surviving rates it is the best, no competition.

Do you have any data that supports your claim?
No you don't.
Every critic of socialized healthcare relies on ''muh lines'' and other shitty anecdotal evidence.

You spend over half your budget on defence. Who else does that?

I bet my based bill collection is bigger

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It's not half their total. It's half their discretionary.

so you agree that america has to spends trillions to defend its allies?

>rotten aquafresh

>Nobody asked u retards to invade Iraq.
The same international banks that own all first world countries, including your own, did. Do you still think the government they show you, is the one that actually has power in such matters? Just like your government supports war with Russia, and the civil war that imported Muslims are here to provide. You can't be this naive.

France and Japan are there too. Both have socialized healthcare.
Is cancer the only medical problem?
And you ignore the fact Americans pay the most. A lot more than average Frenchman or Japanese.

Look at the amount of money the US government spent on medicare/medicaid in a recent year (2015/2016)

Divide that by the number of US citizens
Look at the money canada spent on their single payer, divide by the numberof canadian citizens
Compare the two

Its a well known and argued fact.

We should spend all the money we can on weapons so we can continue being badass

I advocate single payer because it will free up more money in the long run to build more weapons with.

That's why our average life expectancy is fucking falling while it's rising for other developed countries. Right?

wsj.com/articles/life-expectancy-for-white-americans-declines-1461124861

u ran out of Based Bills already?

My grand aunt was forced to live her last days ina shit communal room with a woman who honestly would not stop babbling incoherently for one moment.
And she had to wait years to get in. Instead of getting treatment she went there to die.
Youre healthcare situation is FUCKED

Sage compared to GDP America spends almost same and even less than some countries. Fuck off shill

I like it better when Trudeau meets with Ivanka. She likes it too.

jesus christ this is the obama leaf.

he's gonna make non-arguments, use a random image in every single post (trump hijacked the gop, how he winning the primaries makes him a neocon?), and repeat right wing retards 200 times

>Republican President
>Republican House
>Republican Senate

REPUBLICANS DINDU NUFFIN

Bush and Cheney totally didn't push for that war or anything

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but we neocons you retarded fuck

So far you're wrong on everything meatball.

this will not go well for u

*we hate

I'll give u 1 based trudeau and 1 Based Bill per post

thak you for proving me right leaf

this thread is made a SHILL
DO NOT BUMP IT UP

Man looking at this you can see how Vladdy has aged over the years.

>but we neocons you retarded fuck

DAT FREUDIAN SLIP

YOU LOST ALREADY, MEATBALL

It's over for you Giuseppe. Thx for comin out

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I agree about bill. he was from an era were dems weren't lunatic cucks

>It another autism episode
Sad!

still a retarded amount.

Just wanted to make that correction.

>5% less in colon cancer
>5% less in lung cancer
>7% less in prostate cancer
>"there"

Also, mind reminding me how France fares in medical innovation and patents compared to the US?

If the US contributed the same as EU today every country's life expectancy would decrease by at least 10 years. Thankfully though, their system incentivizes innovation, like Switzerland's for example.

so we're neocons? so john mccain would like Sup Forums?

>Australia spends 23 billion on defense
>buy retarded french subs that will last a few decades when we could've bought american nuclear subs that would last forever.
Fuck this shitty country.
I can only hope that the day of the rope happens in America and I can move there.

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Bill was so fucking based.

Lol Republicans are and always have been the cucks.

US has to stop spending that much for """defense""" and give universal healthcare as other countries. Healthcare in US is terribly bad. Also to start focusing more on science.

Hah, yeah, all those NATO countries need defense from imagined enemy. Seriously, who would, say, Portugal, Spain, Italy, etc., need protection from? Russia? Only a retard would think so.

It's all about geopolitics, US having military bases there and control.

>90% of medical innovations come from the US
>EU countries reduce their cost by leeching of a system that spurs innovation
>Why aren't you more like us? Socialism so good!

You will do as Bibi commands

>5% less
>for 100% more cost
k lol
source for that

if you were smart you would know that ross perot was the go-to, fiscally speaking.

but at at least clinton started to build THE WALL

>But universal healthcare would hurt us...

We have universal healthcare you moron.

>Medicaid
"Free" healthcare for the poor, most doctors won't take it, currently bankrupting state governments.

>Medicare
"Free" healthcare for the elderly. Government trustees say it won't be solvent a decade from now.

>The VA
"Free" healthcare for veterans. Wait times are as long as a year (I know this personally) and they try to fix every problem with pills. You wouldn't believe the neglect I've seen.

And you dumb libs want to double down on all of this. As if making these programs expand to everyone will magically fix their solvency and quality issues.

Fucking morons.

how about we just act like American's and let the free market handle it.
No more health insurance.
No more regulations for Doctors.
If you wanna see a Doctor you take out some cash and pay the fucking Doctor.

Oh, and of course it benefits US in terms of its own security against the only country in the region capable of wiping out the US. So US is strengthening its own security at expense of others.

Worth every penny.

10/10 would oil again.

>>MUH PARTY DINDU NUFFIN
Policy doesn't change regardless of which wing of the mono-party is in power. Iraq was reduced to a failed state under Clinton, who dropped more bombs on them them Bush did. Just like Obama expanded the war in Afghanistan into 7 countries, and didn't end the war in Iraq. Just like Obama continued the war on terror under the auspices of the "Arab Spring" -- all of these things "liberal, tolerant, enlightened, progressive" Canada helped along the way.

Because they're all working for the same masters, and the partisan differences are contrived and superficial.

I would preffer everyone live comfortably into their 70s and 80s than a bunch of 'innovations' that will help the 1% live to 100.

Ross Perot couldn't even decide if he was running for president or not. He couldn't take the heat.

Quit now Luigi, save yourself from further btfo by Obama Leaf.

>little dicked cuckinator post an image for ants as a proof that Sup Forums in one person or that neocons are ok with racism, isolationism and fascism

are you ever going to admit you have autism or will you dodge this again

don't trash on perot while you uses random graphs just like him

Not a shill, but you should know that Trump killed his sister.

No you don't. Your healthcare system is fucking shit. If you don't have a health insurance, you're fucking lost.

Also, the 18% of your working population works in the healthcare system. Then wy it is still fucking bad? In Spain, for example, only 4% of the working population works in healthcare, but everyone has FREE heathcare. Our health system is among the best ones. You're free to copy it.