Now lets see what plagues of society people are worried about nowadays. Destruction of family. Promotion of deviancy. Unrestrained immigration. Unprotected economy. I'll mostly compare it with the Soviet Union, but other communist countries still do similar things.
>Destruction of family Having proper matrimony wasn't just enforced by societal pressure. Infidelity, whoring and destruction of family affected career: you wouldn't be able to have a career involving dealing with children or management. You will be Family leave, sick leave, free kindergartens and priority access to better apartments and commodities.
>Promotion of deviancy Communism threads a fine line between ridiculous traditionalism and degeneracy. Punishment for homosexuality is non-existent or light, but deviancy had absolutely no access to the public.
>Unrestrained immigration Immigration is non-existent, except for rare cases of much needed specialists. Otherwise, only the temporary asylum, education or exchange. You were supposed to go back and fight for better fate of your people.
>Unprotected economy Protectionism all the way.
Now, disregarding Jewish reptilian Satanist conspiracy, degeneracy is a natural result of capitalism.
You see, familyless strong and independent wymin and Xes are much better and profitable employees than the pesky and unreliable family guys. Refugees? Welcome to dump labour costs into oblivion! Open markets? Pure profit!
Liam Bell
Homosexuals are disease spreaders whether in public or not. Degeneracy is a result of mental illnesses that majority of humanity has. They just have to be quarantined. Capitalism should be removed however and replaced with fascism
Grayson Gray
Personally I think going either too capitalist or too communist are big problems, especially late capitalism
Henry Myers
Fuck off Ivan You lost 1991 Now go to your commieblock before the GRU find you.
Nicholas Campbell
t. ancap
Isaac Howard
eh, i'd rather deal with tranny degeneracy than eating your own kids degeneracy.
Robert Rivera
humans are not fundamentally equal, class distinctions are not arbitrary and tribalism is built into our biology.
refute any of these points.
protip: you can't
Christian Taylor
Why do you post this shitty post in what might have been a good thread?
Nathan Gutierrez
Fuck off, you worthless hit
Henry Adams
I like how you trash Communism without refuting any of the arguments, nice try though.
Oliver Morgan
Natsoc > Fascism > Communism
Jeremiah Phillips
>t.ahmed
Ethan Bailey
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Alexander Gray
communism is in essence an internationalist utopia. only when *everything* is communist can communism works.
This requires complete subjugation and erasure of the population. Nothing else can exist.
>trust me goy gommunism wuz never tried. Fuck off back to /leftypol/
Dominic Allen
>(((((Communism)))) don't promote deviancy.
OY VEY, listen this goy right here, never mind people like (((((((((Magnus hirschfeld)))))))) and (((((((((Wilhelm Reich))))))))), they are just Capitalist puppets.
Nolan Price
Fascism doesn't work. Most fascist states were destroyed in mere 10 years. No fascist state ever was able to outlive a single ruler.
>humans are not fundamentally equal Yes, but they demand a just society, and societal progress moves in the direction of civil and social rights and equality of opportunity, which is, essentially, socialism.
>class distinctions are not arbitrary Well, they are not.
>tribalism is built into our biology A society may degenerate into tribalism, but more advanced societies always dominate the world. Walking around naked and consuming raw food is also built in our biology, it doesn't mean it's the way to go.
Dominic Nelson
Degenerates on /pol talking about degeneracy, how ironic. What do you guys even consider as degenerate behavior? As far as I can remember, people have been dissapointing and mediocre throughout recorded history.
Nolan Gomez
>atheists >stopping moral decay
Charles Sanchez
>Communism is the only way to stop degeneracy that plagues capitalism
Fascism did not survive because the Jews who controlled both commies and capitalists knew it was a threat.
Caleb Walker
>Unnecessarily green cunt
Yeah because leeching relative human values from ancient desert monkey scribes is totally righteous dude
Jaxon Gray
Op is either kike, shitskin or extremely bluepilled faggot. No sane russian man who knows his history will ever approve of marxism.
Matthew Hill
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Jeremiah Long
>No fascist state ever was able to outlive a single ruler.
That's because it is for removing degenerates. It's not meant to be permanent.
Parker Sanders
>better fate of your people. Communists dont believe in your people
Levi Taylor
THEOCRACY IS THE ONLYWAY TO STOP DEGENERACY THAT PLAGUES SOCIETY
Isaiah Martinez
Yes by starving everyone to death, great propoganda Ivan
Jack Flores
>Immigration is non-existent Non-existent because nobody wants to join in on your government-backed slavery.
Noah Hughes
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Caleb Gutierrez
>Degenerates on /pol talking about degeneracy, how ironic. Yes, actually it is. But when in Rome, speak Roman. >What do you guys even consider as degenerate behavior? I have defined it. Destruction of family. Promotion of deviancy. Unrestrained immigration. Unprotected economy.
Yeah, yeah. If Jews are so superior, why are you even bothering now? They clearly are the master race if they can manipulate the world to such in extent. You Nazis are really just Jewish supremacists, more than any actual Jewish supremacist. So, how are Chilie, Spain or Germany any healthier?
According to public opinion, however, most Russians do approve.
India used to be wealthier and more sucessful than China in the fifties. Now India is 3 times poorer than China, and it drowns in filth, poverty, internal coflicts and retardation. Really dodged a bullet there Pajeet.
Nolan Cook
I have cockroaches in my garage. I don't argue with them either.
Communism proved itself to be a barbarian, failed ideology in the 20th century.
We'd have to be insane to argue with them their dangerous ideology.
Jace Bennett
That is garbage and you know it.
Kayden Adams
Communists had to build walls... to prevent people from escaping.
Really makes you think.
Jace Bailey
Communism dragged Russia and China into the 2nd world. A bunch of asians and africans would love to get out of their shitty countries. But - they aren't let in.
Christian Morgan
Its not a argument but still it makes you think
Parker Johnson
It's the anti-Jesusism that is destroying America. We need to make America Jesus-great again.
Samuel Sullivan
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those definitions fail to connect the claims attributing them to capitalism in any way.
Josiah Green
>Khmer Rouge Nice meme
Isaac Turner
>those definitions fail to connect the claims attributing them to capitalism in any way.
1. Practical evidence. 2. >You see, familyless strong and independent wymin and Xes are much better and profitable employees than the pesky and unreliable family guys. Refugees? Welcome to dump labour costs into oblivion! Open markets? Pure profit!
Ryan Reyes
I've heard that argument before, from lefties refusing to debate Fascists.
Nicholas Scott
Cant be degenerate if you're already dead from starvation
Liam Fisher
>Yes, but they demand a just society, and societal progress moves in the direction of civil and social rights and equality of opportunity, which is, essentially, socialism.
Explain how 'progress' is 'moving in the direction of civil and social rights and equality of opportunity? I don't think you have ever critically examined your own claim.
>Well, they are not. Then stop propagandizing your bullshit to poor idiots who then kill the rich and destroy society, over and over.
"hey dimytri, you now who has fucked you? the educated, tovarish! if we kill them all the uneducated workers will make utopia"
5 bloodbaths later and it still hasn't worked out for you.
>A society may degenerate into tribalism, but more advanced societies always dominate the world. Walking around naked and consuming raw food is also built in our biology, it doesn't mean it's the way to go.
Perhaps my understanding of history is wrong, but didn't europe colonize the majority of the world based fiercely on nationalism, which is a direct abstraction of tribalism?
Evan White
Government = Initiation of Force Initiation of Force = Immoral Government = Immoral
Brody Nelson
Stop replying to these bait threads you cucks
Carter Butler
I agree, mass starvation, failing economy, and corruption on another level would be way better than letting a fag fuck a fag. Everyone acting like a fucking delinquent is way better by far as well.
Mason Gomez
>Bait threads. >Presenting level-headed and rational arguments and reasoning. Thanks for replying BTW
Angel Ramirez
You are wrong. I'm a fascist and I don't care about debating with you or cockroaches.
The ones lefties call fascists are the old-school liberals they are alienating.
Adam Cox
I've got a better solution user, distributism. Solves all the degeneracy with none of the starvation of communism.
Michael Thompson
Communism is crap.
And all your favorite fascism, natsoc and else is a non-marxist form of socialism which simply fucking works. Stalinism is also non-marxist at it's core, despite the label. It's civnatsoc, like fascism.
Ayden Bennett
Is there an evidence of application of this system though? Or is it only great in theory?
Jaxson Watson
It's a relatively unknown ideology, so there's never been someone who's tried the system as a whole.
There are policies which are distributist in nature though. Protectionism, trust busting, low taxes and regulations on family businesses, that kind of thing.
GK Chesterton was a theologian first and foremost, so his political ideology never really spread as much as his theological wisdom.
Andrew Allen
If only Americans understood this simple concept.
People joke about it, but Marxism has never been implemented correctly. Proof being that everyone that implemented it, historically, has been near autocratic. They bring their populace towards Communism; their associates and their proxies, the upper crust of their society, reap the benefits. This is also the capitalist way.
TLDR Communism is fucked, Putin is fucked. the US won the cold war. quit worrying about it and just go with capitalism.
Logan Campbell
>Explain how 'progress' is 'moving in the direction of civil and social rights and equality of opportunity? I don't think you have ever critically examined your own claim. National healthcare, free education, social rights and benefits are implemented. Hence, the claim.
>Then stop propagandizing your bullshit to poor idiots who then kill the rich and destroy society, over and over. I meant that social classes are non-arbitrary. This Idea of Marx is now a fundament of sociology.
>Perhaps my understanding of history is wrong, but didn't europe colonize the majority of the world based fiercely on nationalism, which is a direct abstraction of tribalism? Nationalism is obviously not tribalism - a clan-based society and legalism. Nationalism itself became widespread in the 19th century and spelled doom to colonialism.
Ryder Ortiz
>It's a relatively unknown ideology, so there's never been someone who's tried the system as a whole.
Well, in that case, there is no objective evidence to determine its utility, other than the fact that it is an extremely uncompetetive political idea.
Caleb White
Rusky forgot how it feels being rekt by the Party.
Michael Lee
>other than the fact that it is an extremely uncompetetive political idea I won't deny that, not a lot of people arguing for it. But hey, at least it's got more of a chance of working than communism.
Kayden Rivera
Oh, yes. Literally what? has a better chance than an idea that was extensively practised for all the duration of its' existence, has a major presence in almost every society and directly controls a significant portion of human population and industry.
Adam White
prosocialists are useful idiots for the global elite. emphasis on idiots.
Adrian James
>has a better chance than an idea that was extensively practised for all the duration of its' existence And then was proven to have a 100% certainty of collapsing in on itself
>has a major presence in almost every society Usually a very small one, and even if that's not the case, if they succeed then it'll just collapse in on itself as previously mentioned
>directly controls a significant portion of human population and industry Venezuela, North Korea, China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam are a good portion of the worlds industry and population, but not a majority, and most of those societies are moving away from communism as time goes on.
