Goodmorning friends ,
It's early in the morning and this thread is for early people who want to discuss everything /polder/
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Reminder that tonight 20:30 we have a debate between Theo Hiddema vs Ancilla vd Leest on GeenStijl
Daily reminder to not watch this piece of crap
He recieves your tax money to shill for the partycartel on the NPO
This will be my last bump , if this thread gets deleted doesn't matter.
Guess it's too early for you
Good morning cartelbreakers
I collected some interesting videos and links. Most of it is understandable in english:
Nexit documentary that triggered dutch journalists (mostly in english, some parts dutch):
youtube.com
Thierry Baudet challenges government on Euro (english subtitles):
youtube.com
Thierry Baudet hijacks conversation about muslim prayer area to talk about closing the borders:
youtube.com
Theo Hiddema calls for a black uprising against the left:
youtube.com
Forum voor Democratie naming the jew:
youtube.com
FvD highlighting soros paid Dutch Politicians:
twitter.com
Tonight: Hiddema will make antilla "fetish model" his bitch in debate
youtube.com
Debate promo
Pruned yet?
Not yet
Looks like the grefos here are too busy with their church service today, as they should be.
>VNL
volkskrant.nl
The ladies are falling for Thierry again.
Last bump for now.
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>posting morning memes to get this thread going
Did that guy pretending to be FvD staff ever give any proof yesterday?
>Thierry Baudet hijacks conversation about muslim prayer area to talk about closing the borders
>dgw geen cutie Annabel vriendin
waarom nog leven?
Not really, or I was already asleep when proof was posted.
Hiddema is gonna break Ancilla. It will be hard to see her get bashed.
Can someone give me a quick rundown on the Duinrell temple?
Annabel is muh thiccfu
I second this, new info would be appreciated as well. We need to found out how deep the ribbithole actually goes.
Goodmorning anons! Are you lot also hyped for the debate?
There was this though. Got trips too. Someone should probably cap that thread
>NPO
>Invites DENK, not FvD
At least he's not as bad and partisan as John Oliver. But I generally tend to find these programs to be very dangerous.
We should bundle forces and assign a task to each member or something. Like one guy trying to find all the shit he can find on GL, one on VVD, etc.
Someone posted this link yesterday, where Ancilla (pirate party) is in a debate of some sorts with Thierry in a school setting, I think. See youtube.com
Her argument against Thierry is completely cliché driven and there is nothing else to it:
>You are WO2 and Nazi
>Womens freedom
>The West created this mess copy pasta
So yes, she's outgunned and is going to get dominated by Hiddema. I hope it will be a great demonstration in how to defeat the stale, leftist cliché's so we NEVER have to hear them again because everyone will be too ashamed to use them and look stupid. Too bad it's a rather small audience of believers, perhaps some Pirates and some reaguurders will turn /baudetraket/.
strooms voor de debatten?
>"tokkies" (Dutch Hillbillies) love Wilders
>they don't vote
How can we activate the "tokkies", guys?
In de nieuwe peiling wordt Greet de neuk uitgeblazen
>dagelijksestandaard
That website is hard on the eyes and half of the commenters are shills.
She's only outgunned if you have the mental capacity and have done the research why her arguments are flawed. At face value these arguments make a lot of sense for a lot of people. It is hard to debate someone in a 1v1 session and explain why her arguments are flawed because it takes a whole course to explain it.
See Socrates, his dialectics versus his Sophist opponents could take as long as 3 hours, and nobody got time for that.
The interview with the editor in chief or w/e of the Dagelijkse Standaard in Cafe Weltschmerz (zie youtube) is quite interesting.
>FunX debate
art1kel and Denk will "win" that one
Thanks for the heads up, will watch it.
Free can of ShultenBrau with every vote.
>if you have the mental capacity and have done the research why her arguments are flawed
I think Hiddema has this down on both points, but we'll see. He's a lawyer by profession so I do not expect him to come unprepared.
>See Socrates, his dialectics versus his Sophist opponents could take as long as 3 hours, and nobody got time for that.
Ah the Gorgias for example? It takes a long time to get to the end because he faces 3 opponents each with a different approach and attitude. But I think, in the end the philosopher needs to practice rethorics to convince properly and perhaps take shortcuts with beautiful words. Because the mass is never going to accept it and would rather hear the face value arguments, there is going to be the need for the noble lie (Republic): hide the truth in rethoric, one part for the mass, one part for those who can understand in depth.
However, I do not think Hiddema is some sort of philosopher king.
How do we steal that one seat from VNL?
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>VNL
Party for taxi drivers.
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Reminder that at least you're not Bart van Bruggen.
That brings back memories of my Afrikaner driver who would try to redpill me on gun ownership and African demography when I was still a bluepilled little kid and good mad at him. The good man was right all along.
>tfw you don't step into it
I made this!
We'll absorb them next election
>The good man was right all along.
The underbelly is often right. Taxi drivers sit all day so they have impressive underbelly gains.
Same with the south african kid in my high school. He said: "the blacks are taking over" and like knumbnuts we talked behind his back instead of asking why.
No because he was an afrikaner. Nobody is more red/blackpilled on race than them
Just received this.
Ik dacht trouwens dat we gezamelijk hadden afgesproken dat PVV ''controlled opposition'' is?
There's a high probability that PVV is controlled opposition. PVV will win this election (35+ seats, don't believe the pols), will be unable to form a coalition, will be demonized by other parties and the press. This will anger and redpill a lot of people.
So PVV is still useful.
I'd say:leave the people who want to vote PVV vote for PVV. Persuade D66 VVD CDA voters to vote for FvD.
I myself am a VVD voter. If FvD acts okay if they get in parliament i might vote for them in 2021.
I've been saying that for a while, but it clearly isn't unanimous.
I generally only bring it up when PVV supporters attack FvD. Essentially we're allies more than enemies, because even if PVV is controlled opposition (I firmly believe it), the supporters who don't think so obviously want to stop emigration and leave EU too. FvD is getting 2 seats at least and that makes me happy.
The bigger the beachhead though, the harder it becomes for state media to blackball them.
>VVD voter
If we let them win again, there'll be sharia law in 2021
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For fuck sake VVD broke every single promise. They'll continue the 100.000 migrants per year. Why would you side against sovereignity and for EU/Euro/mass-immigration?
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Look I get that it takes courage to vote for a new party. I think if you watch their actions or one or two items, you might get a better view of them:
>Intellectual, PhD in Law and BA in both History and Law
>Wrote books, his most important one is Oikosfobie (Literally, in greek: fear of the house meaning the opposite of xenophobia, we have become afraid of our own home, our own identity, standing up for our values, etc. This is what Baudet addresses in his book, that we should have a Renaissance in Europe to rekindle our pride in everything what made Europe great (the classics)
>Thus, Baudet also wants to invest in aesthetics, meaning that our architecture and our 'house' so to speak, is not merely constructed out of sheer practicality, but should also resemble an aesthetic and an identity from which we can feel a shared identity, history but also meaning
>He worked extensively with Roger Scruton which, if you haven't seen it already Iwould highly advice you to do so, made the documentary Why Beauty Matters which elaborates on the point I made above.
>Is realistic about the failure of multiculturalism and particularly immigration, he has mentioned time and time again that the biggest problem Europe faces today is immigration and the refugee problem (which I absolutely agree with, global warming being a close second)
>His more general stances include
>Out of the EU (great, we want to be the leaders in our own country, and the EU as an institution has, unfortunately failed, dictating what we can and cannot do in our own country. The demagogues of the EU, perpetuating the idea that the disintegration of the EU would lead to the rise of toxic nationalism and the resurgence of war within Europe is just absolute fucking stupid
>Referendum based on Swiss model
>Immigration based on Australian model
>education based on Finnish model
>visa based on US green-card model.
Based Brendel about Soros connection Stichting Democratie en Media (SDM):
P A R T I J K A R T E L
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That feel when George Soros was the invisible Ayatollah all along...
THIS IS THE FUURE YOU CHOOSE
hallo ratto
Punished roemer
>Implying the next cabinet will hold out untill 2021
Unless the polls are completely wrong, it will be a trainwreck regardless of who forms the coalition.
Not per se
The vvd, cda d66 cu coalition might hold together forlong because if they don't either the left or Wilders wins. It's in their interest
Face it kerels, We'll have to wait for 2021 before Wilders gets really big: There will be a lot more young voters 30% of whom vote pvv and the redpils will hit even harder as the migration crisis worsens and the Islamic population reaches 10%.
>We'll have to wait for 2021 before Wilders gets really big
>Wilders
Same for Thierro
Fun digits btw
VDD, CDA, D66 falls about ten seats short of a majority in every poll. The polls could be wrong ofc but I said it will be a trainwreck unless the polls are completely wrong.
hallo ratto
>vvd, cda d66 cu coalition
The arrogance of Pechtold alone would make that a complete trainwreck.
VVD zeg Nee.
Net als Wilder's A4'tje, is deze ook veelzeggend.
I just checked. You might be right , cda d66 vvd cu are really close with 73, which means they need either gl/50+ or if the only miss 3 seats sgp
Wat me nog meer uitmaakt is dat we een immigratie hebben van 200.000 per jaar. Dat is 2m in 10 jaar
Maybe, but I think they will keep together because if they don't Wilders and the left wins big
So Dutchbros, who is better FvD or PVV?
On second thought, this is a poor argument, I ignored you added the CU, and also if the polls are wrong, my original case that the cabinet will fall before 2021 due to a trainwreck coalition holds no ground anymore. Yes, if these parties manage to get a majority there is a chance that this government will survive untill 2021, but there is a very good chance that they either way don't or turn out to be a trainwreck after all (Pechtold afraid to lose his progressive voterbase by joining a right-wing government or CU getting angry over liberal stuff from Pechtold and Rutte).
Hallo ratto
>FvD
But they won't get big yet
Pvv are socialists but want to close the borders so they are right on the most important issue but wrong on the rest
FvD is better, but PVV could become the biggest party.
stem weert gilders of ge zijt een maten naajer
What's wrong with being a National Socialist?
FvD. Geert has been doing poorly since the election cycle began. He's been dodging debates with weird excuses. Later when there was a security issue, he didn't send any of his other heavy hitters to debate.
His party #4 Gidi has been caught leaking our secrets to mossad (israeli intelligence). It seems he's there to tie up the anti-islam vote.
FvD is homegrown right wing. Want gun laws for home defense, have detailed plans how they close borders, prevent islamification. They're a very redpilled party playing a smart game of subtly calling things out. They're a party comprised almost entirely of non-politicians.
That should tell you how fucked up our political landscape is right now.
FvD.
PVV is extremely low effort at the moment, which gives the impression of controlled opposition. They are anti-islam so it will trigger lefties, but... their solutions are kindergarten-tier.
It's going to be close. I hope we get an unstable goverment that falls in 2019 somewhere with a worsening immigration and integration situation so we have a shot at picking up dissatisfied voters
But I am pessimistic. It seems we Dutch are too conformist
Ik hoor constant van Baudet dat FvD 10 zetels gaan halen als je kijkt naar sociale media aanhang. Is dit waar?
>dvw net lid geworden
>52% tax rat
>1000000000000000000000000 healthcare costs
They're not national socialist, they're gibsmedat socialist.
I wish, but I don't think so. 7 would be a victory tbqh.
On the other hand convincing people to vote them is easier than ever.
>CU
>conservative
They are the stereotypical christian cuckservatives if you look at their positions
Goedzo
Steeds meer zien het licht
Wat is de contributie?
Signed up, anything to break the partijkartel
hallo ratto
25 e want poorfag ;(
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They aren't socially conservative in any way either