>“The Trump-Russia links beneath the surface are even more extensive,” Max Boot wrote in the Los Angeles Times. “Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies.”
>Handwritten ledgers show $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from Mr. Yanukovych’s pro-Russian political party from 2007 to 2012
>An adviser who helped run Trump’s efforts in the New York primary, Michael Caputo, lived in Russia in the 1990s. Caputo also had a contract for several months in 2000 with the Russian conglomerate Gazprom Media to improve Putin’s image in the United States.
>“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
>There was, for example, Felix Sater, a senior Trump advisor and son of a reputed Russian mobster, whom Trump kept on long after he was convicted in a mob-connected stock swindle.
>Mr. Sater, a Russian immigrant, had recently joined Bayrock at the behest of its founder, Tevfik Arif, a former Soviet-era commerce official originally from Kazakhstan. Bayrock, which was developing commercial properties in Brooklyn, proposed that Mr. Trump license his name to hotel projects in Florida, Arizona and New York, including Trump SoHo.
>In a deposition, Mr. Trump said that the two had discussed “numerous deals all over the world” and that Mr. Arif had brought potential Russian investors to Mr. Trump’s office to meet him.
>Mr. Lauria brokered a $50 million investment in Trump SoHo and three other Bayrock projects by an Icelandic firm preferred by wealthy Russians “in favor with” President Vladimir V. Putin, according to a lawsuit against Bayrock by one of its former executives.
>Mr. Kriss’s lawsuit was filled with unflattering details of how Bayrock operated, including allegations that it had occasionally received unexplained infusions of cash from accounts in Kazakhstan and Russia.
>Former national security adviser Michael Flynn denied to FBI agents in an interview last month that he had discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador to the United States before President Trump took office, contradicting the contents of intercepted communications collected by intelligence agencies
The Dossier Michael Steele compiled said that Igor Sechin along with Oleg Orovinkin were working on a deal to sell 19.5% of Rosneft to Trump in exchange for dropping sanctions. This deal relied on Carter Page, who resigned as a Trump advisor in September. After the election, a 19.5% deal went through, Oleg Orovkin was found dead in his car and the guy behind the alleged russian hacking was arrested for treason in Russia.
These are complete shills. They lost the argument over and over. It was so embarrassing for them. They couldn't defend anything they had to say. It was "muh Russia" through the entire thread and they literally responded with "no u" - I swear to God. It was the laziest shilling I've ever seen.
SHILL THREAD DETECTED. SAVE YOURSELF TIME BY READING OLD THREAD.
Jackson Clark
the links, lies, and resignations by various Trump figures suggest otherwise
also,
>An ex-KGB chief suspected of helping the former MI6 spy Christopher Steele to compile his dossier on Donald Trump may have been murdered by the Kremlin and his death covered up. it has been claimed.
>Oleg Erovinkin, a former general in the KGB and its successor the FSB, was found dead in the back of his car in Moscow on Boxing Day in mysterious circumstances.
>Erovinkin was a key aide to Igor Sechin, a former deputy prime minister and now head of Rosneft, the state-owned oil company, who is repeatedly named in the dossier.
It stuck so hard Trump chimped the fuck out last morning, releasing classified information and further incriminating himself. Last night Roger Stone and Hannity went full scorched earth on their twitter feed.
Rats leaving a sinking ship.
Logan Martinez
Sup Forums gets new visitors. they wouldn't be able to see archived threads. stay mad
Elijah Sanchez
That's a lot of fake news you got there.
Owen Bennett
Trumpftards still think this man works for their country.
Hudson Jones
This shilling is SO LAZY.
I WANT YOU ALL FIRED!!!!!!
and if you're actually pol/tards trolling, that's even sadder.
Austin Campbell
Very fake news.
Hunter Allen
Good, I'd prefer Trump being in bed with Russia, than fucking sandniggers caliphates. One prevents world wars, the other spreads goatfucking and cuckolding.
Jaxson Taylor
no, but your guys certainly do lie a lot
David King
Go to sleep McMullin
Hudson Foster
>I'd prefer Trump being in bed with Russia, than fucking sandniggers caliphates.
are those the only 2 options? God help us
and Trump isn't going to prevent war (for long, anyway, if at all). that ball has been rolling a long time before Trump was even grown
Ayden Wilson
> “Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies.” He also seeked funding from Soros. Is he a soros shill as well ?
Nathan Richardson
Even Bernie Sanders says you're a liar. All of your 'sources' are from documented liars. You can only do this on an anonymous board, because even equally brainwashed friends would be skeptical. What's really funny is seeing this after 8 years of socialism that failed in every regard, except for making favored corporations very, very rich, and everyone else poorer. All you have left is lies, and even your own side is starting to get tired of it. How long do you think the Soros piggybank is going to last?
This picture also uses only far-left sources, but unlike yours, these document the data with easily checked facts.
Julian Bennett
>outrageous interest
well there's your answer, perhaps
whereas the funding from Russia was much different. talking hundreds of millions of dollars, and not even loans;
>around 2007 and 2008, Russians “would buy up dozens of apartments in Trump properties in the U.S.,” Millian said. “The level of business amounts to hundreds of millions of dollars — what he received as a result of interaction with Russian businessmen,” Millian told ABC News last summer.
>and Trump isn't going to prevent war Obamas regime was one long, uninterrupted war, costing many lives and more money than you can conceive of. The felonious Hillary would have continued the policy of executing US citizens abroad and killing foreign heads of state, then leaving without even a goodbye.
Anthony James
a couple hundred a year on average is a "war"? You don't know what the term means, and you don't know what's coming
>I know not with what weapons ww3 will be fought, but ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones
-Einstein
ww2 millions died per year, and what's coming will make that look small. you're talking about a few hundred a year?!
Sebastian Gomez
wrongs make a right Use your words, princess. Or was copy/pasting the extent of your wordsmithing skills?
Your ideology fails every single time it's tried. Do you know how Einstein defined insanity?
Here's another picture demonstrating how moronic your "ideas" are, and the effect.
Leftists are responsible for more deaths than any other cause in history. Why do you hate humanity so much? Wouldn't it just be easier to off yourself than trying to off everyone else?
Joseph Robinson
>Your ideology
that's not my ideology. you've confused me with some leftist strawman.
Of course you didn't know. Surprise. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. Every socialist policy ends in more death and suffering. The stunted leftist brain somehow always thinks >this time will be diferant!1! But of course the only goal of the left is to get richer, and make sure the poor stay that way. That's not speculation, that's documented fact.
Nathan Ramirez
see
Nathan Green
Don't try to backpedal your way out of this, user. That crap you led with is laughable. Not one bit is based on evidence, but they, and YOU, presented it as fact.
Trump didn't campaign as a conservative, but he's governing like one. Until Ivanka chimes in. She's a wildcard that's already starting to screw things up. Or she's trying to keep the braindead half of the population happy. Time will tell.
Here's more documentation of the death and destruction you gleefully advocate.
Alexander Brown
To quote Obama in 2009. >I won the election, so we'll do things my way.
Julian Taylor
backpedal from your strawman? you're a moron
the links I "led with" are non-partisan based on facts. That's why many true conservatives, like Evan McMullin strongly oppose Trump. your attempt to conflate this as a leftist cause is false, and as I've demonstrated, if anybody is a leftist here it's Trump.
>you gleefully advocate.
more strawman
the economy and society has some real problems. the answer is not a pro-Russian traitor. again, 2 wrongs don't make a right
Dylan Lee
How are all you schizophrenic cuckservatives going to feel when all these Russian connections turn out to be real?
Luke Perez
AYO HOL UP
SO you're tellin me that an international playboy billionaire businessman has at least some connections in the second militarily strongest nation on the planet?
Wait hold the fucking horses m8
Youre telling me people he used to work with and know also knew and worked with some Russians?
My god... if the Russians keep this up they will have about 1/10th the influence the jews have had on the POTUS for the past century /thread
Anthony Taylor
>Implying dems give a fuck about following gun laws You should visit CA sometime and see what it's like where the wealthy elite rig society's laws for themselves and then blame white supremacy for all the problems.
Christopher Jones
Stupid dumbass. Kremlin WANT Clinton for president. Head of Rosatom Sergey Kirienko go to Administration of President in 5 October 2016. Month BEFORE election. The Administration of President is main management of Russia. Kirienko make deal with Clintons 20% of uranium. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Kiriyenko
Carter Mitchell
his campaign manager was on the Kremlin payroll. he also lied about it, and was forced to resign. Carter Page, one of the first people in his campaign, worked for Gazprom, also on the Kremlin payroll, also lied about it, resigned.
Flynn? lied, resigned.
Sessions? lied, recused
Trump? lied, remains to be seen
and we're not just talking about incidental business dealings. we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars after he had gone bankrupt
Juan Anderson
Not an issue
Lucas Fisher
you got exposed; now you're resorting to senseless bullshit
neato
I've heard about the 20% uranium story. it's not the same level of collusion/corruption. Russia already has thousands of nukes; nukes have been around for ~75 years; really, what difference does more uranium make for Russia now??
James Campbell
I'm pretty sure putin had deals on both sides. There was no point in picking only one side,
Angel Young
I must say, it is refreshing to see an actual Russian flag in this thread. most of your countrymen use proxies
Anthony Phillips
If it is just benevolent business dealings, why not just be open about that?
sage Anons... Please ignore shill posts as they are negatively affecting Sup Forums.
Carter Watson
This. Only the goddam Ruskie sees things clearly ironically.
Julian Campbell
0.02$ deposited into your account
Jace Morris
His funding from Russia is exactly why he won't release his tax returns. It's all there in black and white - the President of the Unites States of America is a bought and paid for Russian stooge.
Joshua Ramirez
>1 putin coin has been added to your account. Use it in any Trump residence and double the value!
Kevin Taylor
lügenpresident Pol btfo again
Connor Hill
>Max Boot Thank Christ the neocons have gone home to the Democrats.
Please take McCain and Graham next.
Thomas Rivera
clinton had no such connections
Jason Watson
It's good when there's some dissent on Sup Forums, but it has to be intelligent, not spamming articles again and again which not only we don't care about, but neither does the public, who are less likely to be receptive to him than we are. And by that I mean, while the public is (perhaps rightfully) concerned about his possible connections to Russia, they don't think any of the stories you mention are scandals that they're going to bring Trump down. Many, if not most of the stories you listed broke before the date of the election, in which public was informed as best as they possibly could have about these connections, (though it was perhaps downplayed, indicating ultimately how weak they were as the Russian influence is a massive excuse as to why Hillary lost, and the connection to Trump is just snowballing off of that excuse making campaign), yet they elected him anyway. Furthermore, many of these stories were released before the FBI cleared Trump of having any establishable connection to Russia, meaning they likely, to all appearances, do not break the law, or admit of a determinable compromising influence.
As far as policy is concern and as far as my personal preference goes, nothing could improve US foreign policy more than making our president being a stooge of Russia >b-b-but Syria The policy Russia is implementing there is the best one possible, as Assad is absolutely the lesser of two evils and its imperative that he takes back control of the country. This applies also to cutting off funding of the Islamist rebels in the country, which was a disastrous policy. >b-b-but Crimea Aside from the initiated aggression itself, every aspect about the circumstances of the annexation supports Russia's claim, or at least non-intervention. Russia is unlike to give up the region for anything and it is better for stability if the world learn to accept it. >b-b-but Iran They could only improve relations by making us more peaceful.
Isaiah Baker
that and he's worth a lot less than he's claimed
Wyatt White
it's not spamming articles. just like /sg/, new thread gets roughly the same foundation
this is a new thread, hence..
>they don't think any of the stories you mention are scandals that they're going to bring Trump down.
speak for yourself. these scandals have already brought down several Trump officials, and there's more to come
I think Trump's Russian connections were downplayed by the lib press because foreign policy scares them; it's not their forte. foreign policy, in fact, generally favors the Republican. The left would rather talk domestic issues (muh "sexist", "racist", etc.). also, they overwhelmingly believed Hillary would win, therefore they didn't feel the same urgency they otherwise would have felt, that deserved stronger (substantial) criticism
>the FBI cleared Trump
The FBI, along with other agencies, are still investigating. let's be clear about that
we can disagree about the merits of policy in Syria, Ukraine, etc., but what's clear is that Trump is taking the Russian position, not the NATO position. really makes you think
Nicholas White
>these scandals have already brought down several Trump officials Which I haven't denied, it's just not going to bring Trump down, or at least hasn't serious threatened him.
>The FBI, along with other agencies, are still investigating. let's be clear about that Perhaps, but FBI, recently as last month, (specifically on the 17th), said they found no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, meaning all the scandals, while damaging, don't amount in the FBI's eyes to collusion, much less a violation of the law.
>really makes you think That the Russian position also happens to be the better one? I agree, really activates the almonds. Still fail to see how collusion with Russia exists between Russia and Trump, and much less do I see how it results in bad policy, which is ultimately what matters.
Gabriel Gomez
A couple of weeks ago he claimed to know nothing about Russia and that he 'hadn't called Russian in ten years.'
“I know Russia well. I had a major event in Russia two or three years ago, Miss Universe contest, which was a big, big, incredible event. An incredible success,” Trump said in an interview with Fox News Channel's Bret Baier Thursday night.
Which is it then?
Sebastian Peterson
Ambiguity and perhaps understatement. I think I remember him mentioning that he met Putin because of the Miss Universe reagent, but perhaps that was exaggerating his relationship when he said that. Now, when he says the he hasn't called Russia in ten years, does that mean he hasn't spoken to them in a political way, or perhaps he was lying about the Putin meeting happening in 2013, etc., or maybe he thought that was so minor that it wasn't worth mentioning.
Oliver Diaz
>The FBI is leading at least three separate investigations into allegations of Russian interference in the election and possible Russia-Trump connections, Reuters reported last month [February 18]
>In Congress, meanwhile, at least five standing committees and one subcommittee are in various stages of investigations into Russian interference in the U.S. election and reported contacts between Trump associates and Russian officials.
and God knows the CIA, NSA, and others have ongoing investigations too, even if they're classified
>Still fail to see how collusion with Russia exists between Russia and Trump
you think all the connections that have been presented are just one monumental coincidence?
hmm
>how it results in bad policy, which is ultimately what matters.
well, I think it's safe to say our president being compromised by our chief geopolitical adversary is concerning. how that problem manifests remains to be seen
Zachary Rodriguez
The revelation of Trump's toupee would be devastating all by itself.
we're living in the twilight zone
Christopher Hughes
I wonder how much you're getting paid shill? Is it worth the money to sell your soul to pizzagate partakers?
Austin Diaz
no u
and the Nazis lost, don't forget
Julian Stewart
goodnight Sup Forums
Adam Gomez
Well yeah - the lack of money is probably what Donny sees as the real problem, not the sacks full of Russian petrodollars.
He is pretty dumb, though.
Josiah Price
Again, I'm not saying there isn't a connection, only all the connections you've discovered up until now as such, according to the FBI, do not amount to collusion. It's rather similar to the FBI investigation of Hillary, where, despite all the conservative investigations, and legal theories, and speculations about Hillary being arrested and dragged to prison, it never came to anything, the FBI never indicted her, it only slightly hurt her in the end, and she became president. Oh wait NO SHE DIDN'T, LOL! In any case, this may hurt Trump's chances in the 2020 election, but there is no smoking here, otherwise, the FBI would not have cleared him, though it might come in the future.
>and God knows the CIA, NSA, and others have ongoing investigations too, even if they're classified Okay, but that's like people speculating there were investigations over Hillary. If the FBI could have made a case over the allegations up until now, they wouldn't have said anything, which is why they were so mum for so long over Hillary, because they were investigating her, and only said they didn't believe her action constituted a criminal offense once they stopped the investigation, (and then started it again, as they told Congress they would).
>you think all the connections that have been presented are just one monumental coincidence? No, but it probably wasn't coincidence that so many of Hillary's emails dealing seemed so shady, but nothing came of it, except I guess her losing despite it being her turn.
Dylan Lewis
> I think it's safe to say our president being compromised by our chief geopolitical adversary is concerning. Of course, that has not been confirmed to be the case, I personally don't consider Russia our "our chief geopolitical adversary," (considering how infrequently since the Cold War they've had major impacts on our foreign policy), considering the enemy of ISIS or the various Islamic groups in that region far worse to our interests, and I have to hear arguments as to what bad policies would practically be implemented to my disapproval, because in all the instances where our interests, (or what is considered to be our interests from a globalists, interventionist conception of the US's foreign policy), I have to side with pleasing Russia.
Nathan Wood
>shill thread >last years news stories
>Either President Obama ignored a mountain of evidence and willfully allowed a traitor take office or this in reality all of this was addressed
