/polder/ thread: Dutch tea party edition

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ENGLISH ONLY

Mods, please. Let us have our moment.

ENGLISH ONLY VRIENDELIJKE REMINDER

tonight 20:30 on GeenStijl , we have a debate between Master Theo Hiddema (FvD) vs Ancilla vd Leest (Piratenpartij)

Get your snacks and tune in!

Is Geert going to win? Will the EU be kill? Dutchbros give me a quick rundown on the current Netherlands political landscape.

Break the cartel, lads.

Like m'n miempagina: 'Dank Thierry Baudet / FvD memes' op norniemboek. We moeten FvD steunen.

WHO /TU DELFT/ HERE

>We lost trust in Geert , but he must win to fuck over the partycartel
>FvD are /OnzeJongens/ but wil get under 10 seats of the 150
>We will drop Geert in the next 4 years for the FvD
>Geert doesn't show up to debates and is losing the lead in the polls
>State telivision shills for the partycartel

Geert is down in the polls, looks like the partycartel is going to win again.

Geert will win (he will gain the most seats), but he won't be able to form a coalition. This will not lead to civil unrest because we are the Netherlands.

Fucking mods man.

Geert wont win because the shills here are stupid enough to fall for the FvD trap Rutte has sprung for them

>Who is Thierry Baudet?

Intellectual, PhD in Law and BA in both History and Law
>Wrote books, his most important one is Oikosfobie (Literally, in greek: fear of the house meaning the opposite of xenophobia, we have become afraid of our own home, our own identity, standing up for our values, etc. This is what Baudet addresses in his book, that we should have a Renaissance in Europe to rekindle our pride in everything what made Europe great (the classics)

>Thus, Baudet also wants to invest in aesthetics, meaning that our architecture and our 'house' so to speak, is not merely constructed out of sheer practicality, but should also resemble an aesthetic and an identity from which we can feel a shared identity, history but also meaning

>He worked extensively with Roger Scruton which, if you haven't seen it already Iwould highly advice you to do so, made the documentary Why Beauty Matters which elaborates on the point I made above.

>Is realistic about the failure of multiculturalism and particularly immigration, he has mentioned time and time again that the biggest problem Europe faces today is immigration and the refugee problem (which I absolutely agree with, global warming being a close second)

>His more general stances include
>Out of the EU (great, we want to be the leaders in our own country, and the EU as an institution has, unfortunately failed, dictating what we can and cannot do in our own country. The demagogues of the EU, perpetuating the idea that the disintegration of the EU would lead to the rise of toxic nationalism and the resurgence of war within Europe is just absolute fucking stupid
>Referendum based on Swiss model
>Immigration based on Australian model
>education based on Finnish model
>visa based on US green-card model.

Ik kom volgend jaar meedoen aan geesteswetenschappen ouwe geilerd, eerst even mijn propedeuse halen want ik ben een faalerd.

Is het een beetje een leuke studie als ik van geschiedenis, politiek, en literatuur hou?

FvD will get between 2 and 5 seats. PVV will still be the largest party (don't trust the polls)

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Honestly the most important part in this election is trying to boost Le Pen by showing that even a significant part of the Dutch are anti-EU. Nothing will change for ourselves unless Wilders does better than even the highest polls he's ever had.

We can only hope a binding referendum will go through in the next few years so we can immediately use it to Nexit.

The prime issues in the Netherlands are immigration and the Euro currency and European Union.

Each of the referendum's regarding these issues have been ignored by the government. This has led to increased balkanization in our government.

It looked like it would have been a clear sweep in favor of Geert Wilders and his PVV party, having both national and international popularity for his anti-islam message.

However, despite dominating debates in the past, he has been dodging almost every debate this election cycle and his numbers have suffered as a result.

He cites security issues, but this looks like an excuse because he didn't send heavy hitter Bosma either in his stead and reap the sympathy for his safety issues. Instead people worry that the indojewish Geert is controlled opposition. The #4 Gidi has illegally given Dutch secrets to Israel Intelligence previously. As a result PVV no longer has unanimous support, but they're still considered better than any of the pro-immigration parties.

You are in fact the retard my friend.
Geert is obviously controlled opposition, while FvD is the actual right-wing party. We are awake.

Seriously? 2nd year of philosophy, if I'm not mistaken.

As requested, here's an ancilla.

Why vote FvD?
Why not Geert?

Just the spanish trying to recolonize us with their moorish overlords

True. Wilders, Petry and Le Pen visit the same conferences. A win for Wilders will boost the confidence of Front National and AfD.

Wilders doesn't evoke this response.

But how to make Wilders win when he doesn't want to win? He seems to do everything he can to sabotage his own campaigns. Again and again he has the victory for the taking but backs down right when he only has to deliver the finishing blow. He is a controlled opposition rat. Or at least someone that has no interest in doing what his party stands for, (the whole 1 A4 of it). He just wants to sit comfy on the sidelines and shout.

Geert seems disinterested in this election. I think he wants to lead a large opposition party but doesn't want to be in charge.

Wilders will have a numerical win, but won't do anything with it. Right now he's effectively a one-man show.

>WHO IS OURGUY IN THE NETHERLANDS?
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Watch out with the ancillaposting. The gestapo is banning people for posting Ancilla because 'no pornography'.

I think Thierry has the conviction and energy to make binding referendums a thing. Even some of the kartelpartijen like D66 are in favour of it so I think it has a good chance of happening.

No worries, I'm more into Partijkartel Demolitions BV anyway

A lot of people forget that thanks to Thierry Baudet we are allowed to have referenda in the first place

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>Geert had a huge lead and would easily have dominated
>Didn't go to any debate
>Didn't send Bosma in his stead
>#4 passed secrets to Israel and is still #4
>Major funding from Israel for his party (and from US holocaust groups)
>Runs his party undemocratically. Shit website, kindergarten tier plans
>doesn't utilise the talent of his party well
>Fails yet again

People often compare Geert to Trump, but Geert is a career politician that hasn't made a single positive change yet in regards to islam/immigration in 24 years or 11 years of PVV.

He's bernie tier in everything except his stance towards islam and EU/nexit.

Because he has been very fucking lazy instead of dominating, I've gotten convinced he's controlled opposition.

Hoe overtuig ik D66 stemmers om alsnog voor FvD te gaan?

>no pornography

I'll post /klaverkadaver/ instead

Show people the links between Pechtold and Soros groups.

And then show how corrupt Soros is

talk english please

Geert will win

Referenda will be the key to destroying the left.
Wanna directly elect the prime minister and thus make corruption more difficult? Referendum :D
Wanna lower petrol taxes? Referendum :D
Wanna lower cigarette/fag taxes? Referendum :D
Wanna close borders? Referendum :D

This little rollercoaster makes me wonder at what point D66 stops imagining the potential of referenda. That'll determine their support for this idea.

Were they always so gestapo on this btw? I seem to remember many baltic/pol/, spanish and french threads that weren't in english.

Show them their ideas on direct democracy and ask them why D66 is the more democratic choice. Let them work out for themselves that D66 is just another shill party for globalism.

Ja, maar pas op: veel Groenlinks onder de medestudenten. De docenten zijn over het algemeen niet bedorven door postmoderne trucs, logisch want het postmodernisme hecht geen belang aan cultuur en historie, terwijl dat nu juist de zaken zijn waar zij van houden. Met name docenten met een achtergrond in geschiedenis hebben een relativeringsvermogen en kunnen op aanmoediging onwaarheden in bepaalde narratieven aantonen. Mijn advies is om naast de klassiekers in het curriculum ook conservatieve auteurs te lezen, deze zijn in de bibliotheken te vinden.

/TUe/ master race

What field?

No, mods are from the partycartel.

I'm very much opposed to the referenda specifically because of this. Giving the general retard the right to decide anything is a HUGE mistake in my opinion. Ruling should be left to the elite class that has at least an HBO level education. Sadly all right-wing parties seem to have this as their main idea right now so I don't really have any choice but to just roll with it. Also in my mind its still a 'never gonna happen' kind of thing.

We need more ammunition in favour of Klaver's "sensual" qualities

Can anybody explain to me as Dutchman myself why the /self acclaimed biggest intellectual of the moment (without the purpose of trolling} Boudet/ our guy is and not Wilders instead?

1585 never forget

It depends if there's any limitations to them. For example Pechtold suggested that a referendum on taxes should never be allowed because the outcome is obvious (and bad).

Doe een minor filosofie, identiteitspolitiek is een verdiepingsvak, dus meer 3e jaars.

Jesus dude just read the posts. This has been explained over and over.

The dumb masses will always be in the majority so if they decide to increase gibsmedat to trailertrash by increasing richpeople taxes by 90% we're all fucked.

Mathematics, you?

Okay that might make some sense. But how to decide where those borders are?

Last time I witnessed active threads purged like this was during GamerGate. Someone is triggered and tries demoralization tactics.

His criticisms of Islam, Muslims and the European Union are substantiated. Baudet explains why he believes what he believes, which reaches a much higher quality of voters and potential candidates.

Take this random passage from 'Oikofobie' as a display of what I mean.
>Anders dan het christendom heeft de islam zodoende een sterk juridisch karakter.
>Het voorziet niet enkel in een geloofsleer en rituele regels, maar in een gedetailleerd maatschappelijk systeem dat alle domeinen van het leven wil beslaan.
>Waar de scheiding van kerk en staat, van godsdienst en politiek, verbonden is aan het wezen van het christendom, leert de islam dus het omgekeerde.

You're forgetting the important ones

>Want to close borders? Referendum
>Want to nexit? Referendum
>Want our own currency? Referendum
>Want to usher in a new Dutch golden age? Referendum
>Want to ascend into 5th dimension fjierjeppen? Referendum

FvD argues that direct democracy through referenda elevates the people from 'general retard' to 'politically aware' status. When their voice is heard every week or every month, they're content with losing because they feel represented, and because their voice needs to be heard every week or every month, they'll be as politically involved all year long as they are right now, two weeks prior to the elections.

Switzerland has loads of retards like every other western nation, and they're doing just fine.

why is geert getting BTFO on pol?

You realize he was joking when he said that? You live in Amsterdam or something?

>D66 wil referenda
>Doet geen fuck om dat te bereiken

>FvD wil referenda
>Heeft dat staan als een centraal onderdeel van het partijprogramma

Geert is always stepping on the breaks when all the other candidates pedal to the metal.
Pure coincidence of course.

He also suggested that a referendum on the EU should never be allowed.

>The dumb masses will always be in the majority
Are you implying that every outcome in a referendum would be the result of faulty arguments?

Ik lees dit jaar de Grieken, wat informatieve boeken over geschiedenistijdvakken, en wat losse fictie, hopelijk heb ik daarmee een beetje een basis voor de studie.

Is het UVA niet extreem geradicaliseert? Er lopen toch allemaal van die leipe anarcho-communistische relgroepjes rond die gebouwen kraken?

I'll leave that up to the parties to figure out but I imagine subjects involving war, taxes, people's rights and funding in general are wise to be excluded.

They want in on the CTR sheckles

ENGLISH please

haha net weer die spreek alleen engels mods gelukkig is het morgen weer maandag dan moeten ze naar school toe tijdens euro tijden

Welcome to Sup Forums 2k17

Will he attend any debates until the election or has he said he won't campaign?

Come the fuck on, I thought this was going to be "Geert will rule the world" IRL.

Cool, me too. SPOR track. (statistics, probability and operations research)

Is that Emiry as in applemilk as in full force? Last I heard she was sucking dick in some shitty band and doing soft core porn.

Sorry, I'll switch to English.

Read the thread. Wilders is a jew who just wants to play opposition so he doesn't have to produce results. He was all set to win this year and he just didn't do much campaigning, didn't go to debates.

We have a lot of new parties this year. Lots of meme parties. Turkish immigrants party that all islamists are voting for. Anti-racism party. Pirateparty led by porn star. One is very promising though, very respected right wing progunrights lawyer and led by thierry baudet who has got a very impressive program and generally eloquently BTFO's leftists, which is why they got media to blackout him.

Even parties that currently don't stand to win any seats are invited to the state media debate, but not FvD.

It's not so much that we don't like Geert, it's that
>Thierry Baudet responds to Sup Forumsmemes
>Forum for Democracy posted a pic that I swear originated here as a Sup Forumsmeme
>Forum for Democracy outed George Soros
>Forum for Democracy has memeworthy candidates
>Forum for Democracy's programme isn't shit and backs up why it isn't shit
>So far FvD BTFO every opponent in debate without being mean

And perhaps most of all

>Geert Wilders hasn't accomplished his party goals in parliament
>Forum for Democracy has yet to prove itself

Fresh memes always win.

>implying our retards don't have HBO education

Thierry was clearly joking when he said that

where can women meet red-pilled men in NL?

That was a few years ago lol. They wanted to have a greater voice in the way the university is run, but the result is more bureaucracy and an even worse university.

Obviously they're still around. Communists love university.

Plus, Theo Hiddema (FvD's #2) literally mentioned the JQ on public television.

Reminder that FvD called out Soros when he tried to cheat them

Basements or attics.

At FvD rallies.

Coffee Company, waterlooplein.
Seriously, some of the regulars here are properly redpilled.

misschien wel bij de FvD events?
forumvoordemocratie.nl/events

Thierry Baudet will get one seat IF HE'S EVEN LUCKY

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Reminds me, gotta go sign up for that debate tomorrow. Baudet, Van Klaveren, Van Der Staaij. It's gonna be mint.

They will get 2-5 seats.

I know some of those Commies, they're fucking pathetic and incredibly easy to debate, I wonder why I didn't go to college earlier if those people can go there as well.

I can't find Geesteswetenschappen on the UVA website anymore, what gives?

They will not get that many and you can screenshot this post

Really? Fuck that's great, actual intellect and arguments instead of the crap in the big debates.

Ok thx, coudnt be bothered to read the whole thread. I just dispisce Thierry and Im also not quiete sure, now that I have a bit of life-experience (26}, if its wise to let 'THE (average and below average} PEOPLE' who are in majority, decide about whats right or not ....

And though Wilders isnt in his prime anymore entertainment wise, dont forget clips like these: youtube.com/watch?v=NH1yeiD3TpE and youtube.com/watch?v=rozGRFnsOcw

Idk if I can morally justify letting my blond friend down.

Van Klaveren is a weak debater. Van Der Staaij is really good in debates, a worthy opponent of /ourguy/

If Facebook followers mean anything, their zeitgeist will yield them more seats than Labour.

That's 12 potential seats. They'll probably get 4 considering how many voters still trust the Volkskrant to be anything but toilet paper.

Is this the site you're looking for?
uva.nl/over-de-uva/organisatie/faculteiten/content/faculteit-der-geesteswetenschappen/faculteit-der-geesteswetenschappen.html

Anyone got the KVP-Hiddema poster and the 'Hiddema lust je rauw' meme? I'm on my phone and I wanna redpill some lads