You'd have to be irrational to not see this

Trump clearly fears they (ie the IC / media) have shit on him or the dots are close being connected, and this is his way of saying that he's going to try and bring everyone down with him if he is taken down.

If there is nothing to the Russia story, it would eventually pass. All these blatant deflections and media nonsense would be unnecessary since they would not find anything damning regardless of how hard they try and investigate. His reaction is only explained by the fear about what will be found.

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hahaha this retard cant even spell! fuck drumpf

Nice one, Shaun. Wanna come over tomorrow? Me and Jane are making lasagna

No he's trying to avoid being thrown out in a junta because idiots like you believe the (((media))) and the (((IC))).

These groups are not slowing down, and his reaction is "fight", as opposed to "flight" that cowards like you usually expect from leaders.

Again, if there's nothing there, no matter how hard they search, they will find nothing. There is no reason for a "flight or fight" response to be engaged if there's nothing to be stressful about.

Also, deflection IS cowardly. It is the political equivalent to pointing to the sky, saying "what's that!" and running away.

how many investigations do you need? It's been like 5 months of this shit and not a single piece of tangible evidence has been presented, just "muh anonymous IC sources" - t. WaPo

SAGE

You didn't address the point, which is that there is no reason to react this way to the investigation unless you fear something bad will turn up.

So he'd be acting more rationally if he just laughed it off and said "lol nothing to find, they just wasted their time, silly Obama Administration :) #8Years"

Cute!

Shill # 2 provides a little cover for OP shill's shilling.

Are you talking about Obama now?

you know you don't really need evidence to instigate and pull off a coup. you just need the appearance of evidence. and you can achieve that with a single repetitive signal.

a counter explanation to this activity is that trump is offering his own counter signal with his biggest megaphone.

like the previous user said, he's fighting instead of flighting.

But *you're* the one who's deflecting you cowardly shill cunt.

They've had access to all of trump's dealings with Russia since last summer, but nothing has come out yet.
You know why?
Because there IS nothing.
The entire story is
>Russians

>Trump clearly...
>a bunch of nonsense that is not clearly what Trump things
ebin bread

what is IC?

integrated circuit?
internal control?
i see?
in-character?
Illinois College?
international community?
???

There also isn't a reason to keep trying to sell a lie to everyone, yet here we are... something something neurons. His concern btw is that leaks are a national security risk. There is something to gain by putting a stop to the nonsense. There is your reason.

OP you are a moron. I hope you are getting paid by SB to be this fucking retarded.

Actually, yes, if he was not concerned about the investigation at all.

heh, john schindler (former NSA guy and national security writer for a paper that is owned by trump's son in law bizarrely enough) just tweeted out:

"US IC has considerable SIGINT featuring high-level Russians talking about their collusion with Team Trump."

he's also been spouting off about how people he knows who are still serving are whispering that trump is destined for prison.

and now we have comey coming out refuting trumps claims

clapper saying there were no taps on trump campaign, the implication being that whatever taps existed were on foreign intelligence targets that trump team was contacting.

poops and butts. poops and butts

There absolutely is a reason -
1. The aggressive media are now playing defense trying to cover for Obama. Didn't expect that one.Note all "allegations" are prefaced with "unsubstantiated" for Barack instead of "Bombshell" for "serious" for Trump.

2. Now the idiot media and dems can't drip-drip-drip irrational, fact-free, innuendo-heavy "developments" on this Russia tactic the way they want to

3. It'll accelerate how quickly everyone realizes "ooops, it was nothing"

'''INTELLIGENCE''' COMMUNITY IE DEEPSTATE TRYING TO COUP

>Trump gets mad at every allegation
>Spends 4 years fighting democrats and swaying from scandal to scandal
>Fails to enlist support from Congress for any of his policies besides his executive order

This is where it gets murky
>Trump either doesn't nominate himself for re-election or gets BTFO by the next nominee.

>Trumps legacy is overturned by executive order

Pretty simple here folks.

Trump already filed for candidacy the week of his inauguration, dingus. He's already in campaign mode. There's a reason NGOs and such have been relatively quiet about him; if they politicize their criticisms of him they risk losing their non-profit status. It's also why there's so many proxy battles being fought, they can't bring out the big guns without risking the loss of their funding.

Fuck the IC. We'll take the reins from them by force.
They're a bunch of prissy faggots anyway.

IC can fabricate evidence. They do it all the time.
See: Iraq War.

>clapper

literally obama

ITS ALL TALK

WHOS GONNA PROSECUTE? SESSIONS? :^)

THERE IS NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT PROSECUTOR

You'd also have to be irrational to not see a deliberate and concentrated effort to undermine civilization from within by liberal elements happening in various secular western countries.

good luck fighting the most powerful, far reaching clandestine organizations to ever exist with memes.

>with memes.
With guns faggot.
We're talking about live fire war.
They think they can hole up in DC.
They have no military.

Flynn, Page, Cohen, Sate, Tillerson, Stone, Manafort, Kushner, Sessions and Flynn all having direct, suspicious contact / connections with Russian officials; Rosneft and the Steele dossier; and the public contradictions from Trump and Trump Jr. about their involvement in Russia are meaningless coincidences to Trump supporters.

Republicans will not impeach him based on circumstantial evidence because that would piss off their voters who have already decided Trump-Russia is a non-story, these same voters who have also already decided NYT and WaPo are falsifying sources to attack Trump.

The only reason for Trump to be concerned is if he fears there is something direct that someone has or may get access to. Otherwise, more circumstantial evidence is meaningless. This story would eventually go away, as everyone (not just Trump supporters), would simply get tired of hearing about it.

you trust the guy from the apprentice so much that you want to fight american spies. perfectly reasonable.

>american spies
Learn some history faggot.

They need to be cleaned out.
Intelligence is a den of corrupt unamerican rats.

And Hillary sold US nuclear secrets to Russia.

>they (ie the IC / media) have shit on him

literally what could they have on trump that would be a problem

I didn't say impeach, I said coup.

if the paranoia here on pol is right, it's trump against the deep state/zog/lich king for the fate of the world. with such high stakes, high risks are taken.

it's not a completely unlikely conspiracy, and it explains his behavior, and the behavior of his opponents.

However, in the event that I've just been here too long I agree with you.

Nothing that is leaked from the Trump admin is or has been a national security risk. It's a Trump risk, ie it reveals to everyone how inept Trump is at doing the job of president. Trump is mad about staffers revealing that he watches so much TV or that he kept Flynn's lying about Russia a secret. He wants complete control over the image he and his administration give off.

You do understand that Obama blaming Russia while he himself had wiretapped Trump tower and Trumps phone means that he's in deep shit right?

TRUMP HAS PROBABLY BEEN TAPPED SINCE THE 80S

YOU DONT GET MASSIVE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS DONE IN NYC WITHOUT KNOWING UNION BOSSES, GOOD FAMILY MEN

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That was not the IC fabricating evidence. That was the Bush admin fabricating evidence, and weak evidence at that. And that was not with a majority in congress with every reason to scrutinize the findings. Trump staying president is dependent on how Republicans feel about him, which is tied to how their constituents feel about him. Anything aside from ironclad proof is not sufficient to turn them.

>You didn't address the point, which is that >there is no reason to react this way to the investigation unless you fear something bad will turn up.

I'm going to assume youre too young to remember the Valerie Plame non-scandal/witchunt. Investigators knew from the start that no one in the Bush admin outed Plame, but after two years they found someone to send to jail on a completely unrelated charge. Its just politics. Truth is never mission critical in these situations

>His reaction is only explained by the fear about what will be found.
Yes.. absolutely nothing to do with the gnashing of teeth and foaming of mouths from a left bent on humiliating him, and destroying him.. not entirely unlike they did to their own guy bernie. They have spread one unfounded lie after another about him in the msm, from day one.

You'd have to be a numale hipster cuck to post this.

>if paranoia here on pol is right
If you start with ridiculous assumptions you can claim anything.

You are a loser. You are boring. You have no life. We don't like you. Go away.

>going to bring it all down on him

good

>The only reason for Trump to be concerned is if he fears there is something direct that someone has or may get access to.

You forgot public opinion being turned against him because of msm outlets repeating headlines of no substance. It doesn't matter if there is or is not a truth if it's repeated over and over again. You are dead wrong about the story going away. Do you honestly believe they'll abandon this narrative going on 9 months now?

They've been at this awhile. Remember Clinton first blaming the Russians during first leak? Later found that Seth Rich was the source of the leaks, another person who interacted with the Clintons and discovered murdered for seemingly no reason. Imagine that.

They have a story and they're determined to pursue it through repetition.

A secret conversation or meeting between him and a Russian official.

A secret conversation between one of his underlings and a Russian official implicating him. Michael Cohen, Trump's personal lawyer, was already caught giving a handwritten letter to Flynn regarding lifting Russia-Ukraine sanctions. Any comm between Trump and Russia would likely have a similar system.

Any Russian money somehow getting to him. (if there was collusion, this is where it would most likely be found).

>Nothing to worry about if you've got nothing to hide
You know that isn't true, OP. Even if we assume that the IC that has been constantly undermining him for the last three months is above fabricating evidence to install their own globalist puppet, any such active investigation would provide limitless fodder for the hostile media to chip away at his approval ratings and mandate. Even if such an investigation weren't ultimately used to try to oust him, it would limit his ability to get work done --- particularly with regard to diplomacy with Russia, which most of the country wants.

HIS INSURANCE IS PENCE

IC ISN'T GETTING DICK REGARDLESS

>His reaction is only explained by the fear about what will be found

You couldn't be more wrong. If he was afraid he would say nothing. He only spoke because he's holding all aces and he knows it. Clearly he's got something on his enemies, and this is a warning shot across their bow.

Trumpkins are retarded, it's like you wanted Mike Pence as president. Maga.
>ITT we try to defend a memelord of a terrible president

Not an argument.

there is no need for a fight or flight response if you are being attacked. it's not like anybody who ever got attacked unreasonably was ever hurt once everybody in general understand that the attackers were being unreasonable. dorpan dorph is a moron to mount any offensive against these forces.

Again, irrelevant. If an investigation will turn up nothing, he has nothing to fear about its existence. Deflection does nothing but reveal that he fears something tangible or direct popping up at some point.

>It's ok to do illegal things as long it's harmless!

His approval rating stands at 40-45% and disapproval 45-50%. People already don't like him. His concern is whether or not Republicans, especially his supporters, will change their tune. There has already been plenty of circumstantial evidence that his supporters have completely dismissed. Any evidence that does not directly tie Trump to Putin does nothing.

>Do you honestly believe they'll abandon this narrative going on 9 months now?
I know you guys think what the "MSM" publishes is directed completely by the interests of "THEM," but the reality is that what is published is dependent on what people care about. There are only so many Trump admin / campaign officials and associates to go through. If every week people hear about how Trump has some circumstantial contact with Russia and nothing happens every time, people will just stop giving a damn about the story.

LIBS HAVE PUT ALL THEIR CHIPS ON >MUH RUSSIA

THEY'RE GONNA GO DOWN WITH THE SHIP, THE MEDIA INEVITABLY DESENSITIZING THE PUBLIC TO THE STORY WON'T CAUSE >MUH RUSSIA SHILLING TO STOP

Clapper denied existence of fisa warrant today. If this is true mike Flynn was illegally recorded. Comet denied existence of wiretaps today, meaning FBI was not in on survalence. There is plenty of there here. Trump was smart to start this fire to burn out the rats

This is what it looks like when you have the full brunt of the media, the IC and russia about to dump their evidence on you. The guy's mind is breaking completely.

If they had something on him, they would have dropped it before the election to destroy his campaign.

If (((they))) had anything on Trump it would have come out during the election. Remember how 8 hookers were invented who allegedly were raped by Trump? Remember how they came out of nowhere and disappeared as soon as the election ended?

>A secret conversation or meeting between him and a Russian official

>A secret conversation between one of his underlings and a Russian official

>Any Russian money somehow getting to him.

how the fuck is this a problem

since when are we at war with russia

Yes, it is actually true that he has nothing to worry about if an investigation will turn up nothing. And deflecting from the issue to make someone else look guilty doesn't make him look less guilty or suspicious. It also doesn't work even to deflect attention. It won't stop the media investigating and the media already knows exactly what he's doing.Trump's most recent allegation is being reported within the context of it being a falsehood that the director of the FBI is refuting.

wait, so is Comey just denouncing FBI involvement, not trying to push against an investigation like MSM is saying?

If the FBI has nothing to do with the tapps, then they can work along with the DoJ to expose these fuckers.

Comey afaik didn't deny the existence of wiretaps

He said the claim that Obama ordered it was false

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but when these guys choose words, they choose them carefully.

>Comey just denouncing FBI involvement
FBI is either out of the loop or lying. There are definitely wiretaps.

>“I expect for the FBI to tell me what is going on, and they better have a good answer,” said Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.)...The big problem I see here is that you have an American citizen who had his phone calls recorded.”

Clapper only denied the existence of the FISA warrant of Trump specifically, and the supposed warrant had nothing to do with Flynn. Flynn communications were caught by the NSA because he was talking to a Russian ambassador.

>If you've done nothing wrong why are you afraid
>Unironically using this meme while Obama's buddies desperately block the investigation into his wiretapping
The fucking irony

nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html

There. And keep in mind, this was back in DURING the middle of the election where it was highly likely the Obama administration scrambled to find anything on Trump to make sure he would not win the election. It's almost spring and there still isn't a shred of substantial evidence besides "this person lied, therefore Russia/Trump conspiracy". Now make sure to do your homework next time and fuck off.

Trump is seriously done at this point. He's citing conspiracy theories as evidence. There's literally no evidence whatsoever that he was wiretapped. In the coming year, he will likely be found unfit to serve and impeachment hearings will begin.

Even Alex Jones thinks that Trump has lost his mind.

Not only that, but Drudge knows that something is up and it's not looking good for Trump.

Lold but I don't get it

>Flynn, Page, Cohen, Sate, Tillerson, Stone, Manafort, Kushner, Sessions and Flynn all having direct, suspicious contact / connections with Russian officials
1. The Clintons also have had suspicious contact and connections with Russian officials. Not something that ever disqualified either of them from anything. Next.

2. Weasel words. Define exactly how the incoming administration's "direct" contact with Russian officials was suspicious, because incoming administrations commonly talk to foreign officials. Flynn asking the ambassador to wait until after the election to hash things out is no different than Obama saying "this is my last election, I can be more flexible after" on a hot mic to the Russian ambassador.


>Rosneft
What's the smoking gun for Trump's connection to Rosneft?

Fun facts: Rosneft is connected to Qatar (which gifted Bill Clinton $1 million dollars out of the goodness of their own hearts without expecting anything in return) and Glencore (which is connected to Marc Rich, the controversial financier who was pardoned by Bill Clinton shortly before he left office).


>the Steele dossier
Steele dossier pissgate fanfic? LOL


>public contradictions from Trump and Trump Jr. about their involvement in Russia
Specify what the contradictions were. Was it something like "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky" or "I turned over all of my work-related emails"? Oh shit, apparently fucking perjury isn't enough to disqualify you from being president or running for president. Sorry but the Clintons have ruined the possibility anyone would give a shit about this. Thanks for playing.

the whole media lying vs one man?
Statistically speaking that is retarded.
Trump is a proven liar.

I get why you would say that media lies since they don't have a good track record on this. But if they had a non story they would have let it go.

>Flynn communications were caught by the NSA because he was talking to a Russian ambassador.
It seems they recorded Mike Flynn as well. They have transcripts of the calls.

"Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.): The big problem I see here is that you have an American citizen who had his phone calls recorded.”

this is illegal without FISA warrant. "Routine surveillance" applies to Russian ambassador only. If there is a FISA warrant, Trump's tweet is accurate. If not, we have illegal surveillance of US citizen(s).

Can i just say, that is one beautiful wall.

Or, you know, he could be pissed that Obama did the same exact thing that watergate was all about: wiretapping political opponents.

True, very carefully worded statement. However, if Obama didn't order the warrant himself, he definitely knew about it.

Are you actually retarded ? Trump is not worried, he's outraged, because he's probably been spied on illegally.

Ol sniper fire lookin ass
Birth certificate lookin ass

This post is a sign of brainwashing, or very low intelligence.
You're saying that you should be able to make any accusation, and if he denies it, he's covering something up.
You should sue every school you ever went to.

It's funny how your kind never heard about the tapping of James Rosen...or the Clinton/Lynch meeting....or Hillary profiting from selling uranium to Russia...the list of things your masters won't tell you is endless.

And it's all for the sole leftist goal of making the rich richer.

Sad!

Shattuck: For Obama, spying is nothing new
Boston Herald · 1 hour ago
bostonherald.com/news/columnists/tom_shattuck/2017/03/shattuck_for_obama_spying_is_nothing_new
It was pure spying. Fox News reporter James Rosen and his family were wiretapped. Former CBS news reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer was hacked by the …

the implications seem to be that trump team wasn't wiretapped, but were communicating with foreign intelligence that was. hence all the denials claiming trump campaign specifically was tapped.

the idea that comey is now suddenly in bed with democrats is retarded.

You seem to think "FBI has found not a clear link between Russia and Trump" is equivalent to "There does not exist a clear link between Russia and Trump" or "There is no reason to believe there is any link between Russia and Trump whatsoever." It's not.

An investigation the investigators still believe is worth investigating, for some reason, doesn't become strong evidence of no nefarious Trump-Russia ties because of an arbitrary timetable you have decided on. People are suspicious because of (1) the links between the Trump campaign / administration / associates and Russia, (2) Trump's statements about Russia and Putin, and (3) Trump's lies about his business ties to Russia. Until the natural questions that arise from those facts are answered sufficiently, people will still be suspicious.

>"No you're wrong"
>Doesn't address any of my counterpoints
Good talk

bullshit. They already said they found nothing now theyr ejust dragging investigations on to smear trump. If youlet them they would investigate himf or 4-8 years in order to keep a steady stream of sensationalist headlines

Please. If they had something it would have come out before Trump was sworn in. They have nothing.

4 people named in the dossier have died in the last few months.

You just lost all credibility on your MSM line.

It's very clear to anyone who's followed information flow in the last 6 months that the news does NOT report the truth. They report what will help their agenda.

Stop spinning liesz

the only reason trump isnt already impeached due to russian nonsense
is becasue he has massive poweer to appeal directly to the poeple through twitter and rallies

I don't know who's dumber in this thread: the irrational, racist pantshitter retards who blow Putin incessantly when they take Dumb Donald's cock out of their mouths for two seconds, or you for thinking any of the reprobates here will ever admit President Pussygrabber is a known Russian asset.

Solid point

Since you are unable to properly read the article, it states that the investigation is broad and also covered the extent of which the Russians meddled into our election. Regardless,I'm sure you think Trump is incompetent and unfit to be president, right? To the point that he's unable to even stop leaks coming out of his own administration, and yet, you are telling me, that he's sophisticated enough to have ties with the Russians and somehow hide it completely from the IC you hold in such high regard? The cognitive dissonance is amazing.

Regardless, you're the one getting ahead of the evidence and making bold assertions based on faulty evidence, some of which you still haven't presented, nor has anyone. You also left out the part that this investigation has been going on since the summer of 2016 and no evidence has been presented, just accusations by people such as yourself.

>"HA! Fags!"
>"D-Don't forget to vote Nov. 8th, gays!"

It's over for Drumpf, the suburban and rural retards shouldn't have let his small hands on the nuclear codes!

You're kidding right?

You didn't address his point at all and jus continued the fake narrative wit providing any sources or evidence to back up either of your claims.

thank you kek!

have seen this copy pasta before. Saged

You know foaming at the mouth is a rabies symptom, right?

Sorry I can't hear you over Dumb Donald's putrid come rolling down your fucking chin while you open wide for another nice, long slurp of his Russian owned dick.