I've been watching Sargon lately and have been enjoying his videos. However I noticed he keeps affirming that he's a liberal and not associated with the alt-right at all while speaking almost entirely in alt-right talking points. Is he trying to reach normies by doing this or what? I've just started watching the channel so I'm not sure.
He's a Britfat so he's automatically in cucksville on the political spectrum
William Sullivan
>I'm a classical liberal
Brody Morales
Liberal doesn't mean what you think it means.
James Gomez
He fingers his asshole at the same time.
Juan Garcia
Sargon's makes dull angry rants about stupid and trvial things from a borderline alt-right position because he has no sense of self awareness.
listen to someone interesting and thoughtful like J Peterson and sort yourself out.
Adrian Moore
There might be better things to do with your time than watch a fat yelling retard for an hour
Carter Edwards
He isn't altright, he hates identity politics
Parker Gutierrez
He's okay if you don't mind recycled content.
His videos literally provide no value. It's always the same fucking content - anti-sjw response videos.
Watch 1-2 of them and you've watched them all
John Ross
Meaning he doesnt want mass immigration or a fuck ton of refugees in his country retard.
Samuel Young
>I'm an atheist muh lady. >t. sargoy of mossad
Josiah Jackson
Sargon is fucking retarded. He can't distinguish between correlation and causation. He calls himself a liberal because he is too stupid to understand what liberal means.
Logan Campbell
Sarcuck of Black Granddad Quadroon of Mossad
Adrian Perry
like sargon im a leftist who share a ton of alt right viewpoints
but while he is a classical liberal or we im a national socialist
Samuel Russell
That's what I gathered. it's made for some decent background noise so far though.
Who's good to listen to?
Cameron Long
Sometimes I agree with him sometimes I don't. If he starts fake laughing I turn off the video. Pretty sure the fat bastard lurks here. And when he gets attacked (when someone makes a vid about him like he makes about others) he goes in full defence mode rather quickly. Tl;dr he's a fat hypocritic bastard that sometimes has a point.
Parker Rodriguez
Mark Dice is a "media analyst" where he makes fun of insane liberals in the media and government and delivers good information and a lot of laughs in 3 to 7 minute videos. He usually posts new videos every day
He probably means classical liberal. Obviously modern liberals aren't "real" liberals. It's an exercise in futility to co-opt leftists' names. Every libertarian or "classical" liberal aside from a select few consider themselves conservative or right. They generally despise the word liberal so you'll never turn the meme real
Charles Brown
Stop shillibg for views mark
Charles Martin
that's not what that term means and just because a fat youtube neckbeard starts using a dead term doesn't mean it has been reinvented or revived.
It's a bullshit term like all the other bullshit terms these youtube fags use to create an in-group or to also to pretend they are not a part of a mainstream group, in his case he's a right-wing populist.
Josiah Torres
eat shit retards
Bentley Gonzalez
I think hes fine, I enjoy watching him as background sound
Even seen crosstalk on russiatoday ? Its a good show
Grayson Bennett
fuck off nigger
Evan Young
well... since the political landscape keeps shifting to the left... and every body who is to the right of Marx is literally Hitler... he just stayed at his core principals but now almost everybody who doesn't want to suck a black cock is a nazi... he'll look like a right wing
Zachary Gonzalez
>not associated with the alt-right at all Why would he? There is no such thing.
Xavier Watson
Welp, here come the shills.
Make sure you alienate everyone, goys!
Julian Rivera
Sargon detected
Chase Perez
Sargon, there are probably better memes you can post. I know you just came over here from /r/thedonald and they have lower standards, but we have high meme standards here.
William Lopez
>we're shills >everyone on 4-chan are shills >t. styx
Isaac Collins
Way overdone
Lucas Hughes
Hey sargon, what do you think about space exploration ? Can we get a video on alex jones and the aliens?
Justin Ross
If you hate identity politics, you basically must be a white nationalist identitarian. Otherwise identity politics will never go away.
Andrew Allen
Not shilling against Sargon, he does good work but he should really stop being a cuckold like this guy
Christopher Bell
It's because you all, excluding the identity politics (that's all inclusive for racism and sexism etc), are classic liberals. The political spectrum has just been shifted because of libtard definitions.
Jonathan Robinson
He keeps claiming he's a liberal, but he's blatantly not one.
Angel Thomas
Think you might wanna learn what cuckold actually means buddy.
Jonathan Harris
Liberal≠progressive
Liberal is closer to libertarian in today's language. Progressive is your typical lefty.
Also, comparative person, for instance, is Sam Harris. Dude is not in anyway conservative, but he has been railing against the lefty social justice progressives.
Idk what alt right is. I hear a lot of various descriptions. Fiscal conservativism without the religious bent. Racially focused, sexist right wing neo nazis. 'New right' young conservatives. Trolls.
But there are a lot classical liberal positions. They are entirely hinged on reactionary issues regarding sjw attempts to silence any dissent.
Lucas Campbell
No one is alt-right, really. It's a label made up by establishemnt journos towards people that they not only do not like, but can't understand as well. It's now used by thier opponents as an aggro-pull, like what Bannon and Milo do.
Sargon has put himself in a position where he can deny the label, becuase he identifies with those under the (quite large) Liberal umbrella. If he was conservative, he wouldn't be able to get away with it as much. His rather young potential crowd would also not identify with such a term, as well.
Jason Jackson
Hmmm, I don't know. Can you post some gay black porn to educate me, Sargon?
Xavier Wilson
>However I noticed he keeps affirming that he's a liberal and not associated with the alt-right at all while speaking almost entirely in alt-right talking points. Is he trying to reach normies by doing this or what? I've just started watching the channel so I'm not sure. I have wondered this as well. I think its both that he has trouble accepting the redpills he has taken on migration, feminism, and truths about economics. He believes in helping the (native) working class but finds himself siding with those on the centre-right and further down the spectrum.
He doesn't realise that the right also does care about the working class, but prefers to rely on individualism. In the end, not everyone can get educated and work more sophisticated higher pay jobs; intelligence is the limiting factor.
That said, he is a good intro for people on some of the bigger issues and even if I don't agree with him on everything, and fuck you if that's what you require - get out of your echo chamber.
Joseph Carter
He's in denial. He's no longer part of the left. Maybe in the 60s his positions would have been left, but politics shifted.
Sargon isn't good with being honest with himself. Same thing in the presidential election. Took him half a year to turn into a Trump supporter. At first it was always: "I wouldn't vote for him, but damn he's funny."
His latest stick is fantasizing himself as the leader and general of a culture war. He's talking shit about taking institutional power for his anti-SJW movement, demands people stop critizising his youtube allies and throws people -like Milo- under the bus to shield his movement.
Carl is all in all a despicable human being. Like anyone who studied history.
[spoiler]I did too.[/spoiler]
Liam Ramirez
To clarify I don't blame anyone for not associating with the alt-right. The strength of the alt-right is its lack of definition and nebulousness. Anyone who claims themselves to be alt-right is doing more harm to the ideology than good, as their beliefs will be projected onto the whole by political opposition.
However, at a certain point you should come to terms with being socially conservative rather than using an 18th century political compass IMO
Parker Jackson
Classical Liberal is actually on the right wing side of the political scale anyway which is why I don't understand why the cucks who identify with Classical Liberal, try to use it as if it referred to Leftist politics when it was always associated with Libertarian & Right Wing.
Caleb Butler
>I'm what you'd call a "classic liberal"
Adam Garcia
Have you considered that the Alt Right has appropriated classical liberal ideals, and these are not Alt Right talking points but classical liberal talking points? Funny how the new Right is the old left.
Cooper Mitchell
To be fair to the fat fuck I don't think I've ever heard him refer to himself as Salt Right, so at least he is consistant
Jeremiah Ortiz
What I don't like is how half of his videos' runtime tends to be him just slowly reading Tumblr posts out loud. It's hard to watch 30 minutes of that.
Logan Nelson
Trust me, push him on any of those issues and you find out he's basically a socialist with strong notions of personal accountability. As contradictory as those things sound. Social and interpersonal issues, he's libertarian, anything to do with economics he's socialist
Bentley Rogers
I think this is what happened. He knows where he stands and knows the ground shifted out from him and can't take it anymore. He does say some pretty socialist things when it comes to government services but he likes Trump but can't admit it. It's why he gets so angry when his fellow fedoras call him out on it.
He also has a bunch of double standards when it comes to being willfully ignorant on subjects.
Aiden Lewis
>all these shills
Kayden Hill
>"Muh cummunity" >"Collectivist Cohesion GOYS"
Fuck you sargon shill. You know your degenerate demogogue is as morally bankrupt as the journalists he criticizes.
>Retard skepcuck friends of sargon shill for "free speech" app that censors with AI >Stays silent on the topic for months to try and try to make an angle to make his retard friends look good >Makes a video months later and still looks completely retarded and hypocritical >"We need to get the journalists goys. We don't have as much influence as the media goys that means you shouldn't criticize me or muh skepcuck community,
Sargon is a fucking jew only after shekels in his pocket and would censor any dissent against him much like his protected in-group censors their comments for mentioning the channel that called these e-fags out.
Brayden Cooper
his videos get the party line out there, in an efficient way
Jason Moore
>and throws people -like Milo- under the bus to shield his movement. Bollocks. He's talked at length about how it was all just a smear campaign against Milo, how he probably only believes what he believes because he was fiddled as a kid, and how Bill Maher and George Takei have said far worse. He called out people who criticised Milo, telling them they were virtue signalling exactly as the media wanted them to.
Benjamin Myers
>However I noticed he keeps affirming that he's a liberal
He is a Liberal but only in the classical sense and not the new nutcase Liberals that we see today. The so called liberals of today aren't really liberal anymore we just happen to call them by that name.
Ethan Martin
Words change meaning over time, bud.
Jayden Peterson
>To clarify I don't blame anyone for not associating with the alt-right. The strength of the alt-right is its lack of definition and nebulousness. Anyone who claims themselves to be alt-right is doing more harm to the ideology than good, as their beliefs will be projected onto the whole by political opposition.
I feel like you just said what I've been thinking and not being able to fully articulate for some time now.
Jackson Edwards
If you follow the Harmful Opinions / Re:Skeptic Community debacle you can understand why Sargon is left wing.
He sounded indistinguishable from SJWs.
Christopher Harris
Sargon literally said the same thing he shit-talked Antia sarkeesian for. >"Muh Daily Grind" of you suck, fat fuck >I can't take the criticism anymore He just doesn't want anyone to criticize him because he is attempting making a movement of "skeptics" who are ideologically attached to their cuck leader. We all know that if he succeeded he would just use the same tactics as the media does now since he uses rules for radicals and the prince like a fucking manual.
A lot of the alt right is liberals and leftists that reject SJW and identity politics
Really goes to show how ridiculous the label is
Asher Barnes
Hope this fat faggot dies
Fuck off this board sargon
James Martin
You listened to his 3 hour stream with HO too then?
He basically went: Sargon: the Twitter stuff gets too much man HO:How so? Sargon: it can get a bit much, the daily grind can be too much for people? HO: So what do you want to happen? Sargon:well... I... STOP TRYING TO CATCH ME OUT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING haha
Grayson Gutierrez
>watching fat jew loving degenerate YouTube intellectuals Lmao
Liam Rodriguez
Watched part of it. Really hard to get through when Sargon was being intellectually dishonest saying on twitter he watched all of HO's videos about (((jew app)) and then goes on the stream and says he didn't know anything HO was talking about.
Tyler Nelson
This. I always consideree myself liberal and then all the garbage started. First it was paygap myth third wave feminism shit then the refugee anti racism shit and the people calling themselves liberal got more and more rabid and unwilling to make arguments and keep calling everyone ultra right and Nazis. So i guess by staying true to my original positions im now a right wing nazi since society moved so far to the left.
Lucas Turner
That was my whole point.
Asher King
The fall of the left today is in part sue to what caused conservatism to fall before: ideological purity. Excommunicating people for not falling in line on anything but the most crucial stances is alienating people 101.
Sebastian Perez
I dont think thats the case here. Marxists just realized that the only way their ideology will make a Comeback is by masking themselves and slowly working towards it.
Joseph Kelly
Sargon's channel is for woke lefties with an identity crisis.
Nicholas Ward
Good the lefties are the ones that need red pilling more than anyone.
Josiah Hughes
I genuinely do cringe when I hear people say this, especially Americans. It's like when somebody describes themselves as a "critical thinker," they're just trying to set themselves apart to make themselves feel smart.
You're not a classical liberal you're a conservative or libertarian. That's what those words mean now.
Gabriel Myers
>I'm a liberal but I'll still keep making pro-Trump video to appease my viewers
he's a fraud and a legit cuck
Jack Powell
Thats just not true. Classical liberals were never completely against government like libertarians are and they disagree with conservatives in as many issues as with todays progressives. Its just that these disagreements arent as important AS making sure your civilisation survives and free speech will stay a thing.
Oliver Allen
Who says libertarians have to be completely against government? You act as if they don't exist on a spectrum with varying beliefs, which would line up with classical liberalism. The language has evolved and the only people that describe themselves as classical liberals are fedoras who want to feel special.
The stuff he puts out on his secondary New Memedia channel is generally a lot more interesting than what he puts on his main one. He's a lot funnier when he comments on things off-the-cuff like that in my opinion.
Nathan Lee
Do you guys not watch his real channel? Let's just say if he had to chose... I think he knows which way the wind would blow.
Hunter Sanders
No he understands that this is about nationalists vs globalists and that Trump is a nationalist
I quite like Vernaculis, he always makes nice, solid arguments
He has a weird accent though, almost like he wants to have a transatlantic accent, has a slightly prissy demeanour, sometimes it feels like he belongs half a century ago, I imagine plenty of people would find him hard to listen to
Chase Johnson
No the alt right is just rightwing identity politics
Jaxon Jones
Ah, Harmful really poked the hornet nest. All of those '''''''skeptics'''''''' screaming for freedom of speech being slammed with gag order they agreed to put on is hillariously ironic. And while I wondered about Sargon a while, he pretty much confirmed it in stream with another Candid shill the Amazing Fedora Tipper, that winning the culture war is more important than objectivity or freedom of speech, slandering the people who found out as 'hyperskeptics'
Jayden Kelly
>rightwing identity politics
What does that mean?
Robert Cruz
He's certainly liberal with food.
Bentley Bailey
I really used to like him. I really did, and do in some sense. He's a good starter redpill.
He crawled way up his own ass. I do not have the time to listen to him make five minutes of commentary for twenty-five minutes every fucking time a feminist blames her sneeze on the patriarchy. It is not productive, it is not good polemics anymore, it is just masturbatory in length and argument. So I stopped watching.
Lucas Allen
Didn't even look at that stream but just the fact of him associating with Shill (((banana in ass))) Sodomite I knew something was up with that. Will take a look later.
Ayden Fisher
It was just an off-hand comment, if you didn't know what specifically he meant by it, you'd just completely dismissed it.
Maybe for the people flying the AR flag, but like the word 'impressionist' (art, music), it is a term coined by critics talkin' shit.
t. 2012 liberal
Jackson Evans
He used to go full retarded on SJW but lately his content became pretty good
Jack Collins
His stance has changed little by little and he doesn't even know. He already said, if the time comes, he will side with the white nationalist vs the commies
Austin Diaz
Theres is a spectrum but a big point for libertarians is smaller or no government. Libertarians existed before progressives came into being and shifted Liberalism far left with retarded ideas. Those are just different things you are mixing up because you See both here now in the side of conservatism. There is definitely a big overlap between classic liberalism and libertarians but its not the same and both disagree with conservatism in a lot of issues.
Ian Rogers
OKAY MOTHERFUCKERS
LETS GET THIS ALT-RIGHT THING CLEARED UP ONCE AND FOR ALL!
The name was invented by our political enemies to have a Feindbild.
There is no such thing as the alt-right in the sense that we're nothing but Sup Forums right wing anonymous. You can't join, you can't belong, you can't leave, you're a 'member' simply by holding a certain set of ideas or convictions.
That's what the 'alt-right' is. Nothing but anonymous on Sup Forums and it's emanations into normienet.
Jacob Gonzalez
It is in fact possible to be a redpilled classical liberal.
It comes down to whether or not a persons' culture must be informed by race. If you believe it is not as I do and Sargon does, ethnonationalism becomes unnecessary and will lead to genocide if taken to its logical conclusion.
Lucas Carter
>unironically thinks the Alt-right exists
it doesn't
Anthony Parker
>he will side with the white nationalist vs the commies Link to him saying that?
James Davis
>I suppose I'm what you'd call a classical liberal
Nathan Bennett
Cucksville
>America a land totally not built by immigrants and slave