ITT: We get redpilled on William Cooper, Alex Jones' predecessor.
William Cooper
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Links to any form of Cooper's broadcasts are encouraged, but quotes from the man are encouraged even more. May his legacy live on and inspire the next generation of those who seek Liberty.
Guy became a martyr and it ratified his work.
On the other hand he begs for money in Behold a Pale Horse and his family seems pretty scummy.
I will give him high respect for the fact that when he got something wrong and was corrected and shown how he was wrong he didn't act like a jackass and legitimately studied up on the information a little better.
He claimed the suits NASA made wouldn't have worked in space and went back on that later in his career when he was shown his information was wrong.
The most you can really take away from anything he said is that the government may not be doing what we think they're doing, but they have the motivation and means to do it so why wouldn't they?
Too ahead of his time
Also OP your thread is going to get maybe 25 posts max and then die, Cooper and Bilderberg threads are slid hard.
slid?
are you talking about OP abuse?
Its literally nothing
i mean admin, not Original Poster
interesting. he was before my time. Alex Jones redpilled me in the late 90s.
If there's truly important news posted on Sup Forums suddenly a ton of shitpost threads are made to push important ones past page 10 into oblivion.
Cooper fucking hated Jones and called him a deep-state agent and a puppet figurehead, which he likely is.
gotcha
interesting. do you think jones played a part in cooper's death?
That's the point, on the whole Coopers character was very rough, as expected for someone who was in the navy and fought in Vietnam. Many attributes about his character were flawed, but you don't have to like the character to understand the message which is what's important here.
Cooper and his research is literally the ultimate redpill. You cannot be redpilled more than that. He completely BTFO the enemy.
He also identified the enemy ,named names and seemed to be interested in nothing but the truth. It's the members of many various secret socities that are the enemy.
Alex Jones isn't even closed to redpilled. When Jones talks about the enemies he just repeats soros, megabanks and globalist.
Jones is just a coward, who at this point does what he does mainly for infowars store cash.
Elaborate. I listened to his stuff a few weekends ago and found it insightful, but there was also something I couldn't put my finger on seemed kinda off. I attributed it to being older. What are the details of his death? How is his family scummy?
Why lie
No, I think Cooper either said something a little too close to the truth or made contact with the wrong person so they killed him.
seems legit
too bad he self-censored himself too much
nigger ought to have laid it all out and stopped with the fucking cliff-hangers
Bump.
I remember discovered him in 2002 while i was investigating the 911 thanks to a french author.
Really a great guy, and like many about this damned case, he knew too much and was killed for this.
I remember saying to myself back in the time "USA is the greatest country on earth, this is a matter of days before the scums who created this inside job are hang in the streets, no way they let themselves being victimised by an inner cabal"
What a shame... Shame on America to close the eyes on this bloodbath.
Shame on USA citizens, so deep in fear they let some devils kill their relatives with the taxpayer money and did nothing about it.
have a bump OP.
Lol wes penre
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I know nothing but want to be redpilled
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Bill Cooper was a paranoid nut job and con artist. He lied about his naval position, his gimpy leg (assissinnation attempt, kek, he crashed pissed up) etc. Read about the OH KRILL affair with John lear. Lear made up some 'alien related' papers to test the water. They are both getting interviewed and cooper says he saw them in the navy years ago...
Or try his theft of lars Hansons video and theory of the Kennedy assassination, that the driver, William greer had a pistol. Except Hanson already realised the glint was a reflection off his bald head...
He fucking ruined paranet with his ramblings and constantly changing stories.
your english is better than hassim. regarding 9/11, we're working on it. pray for trump.
In honor cooper's message about sticking to the truth I must call you out. I've listened to the entire broadcast on cooper calling jones a liar and fraud, and this is a quick rundown:
>In 1998 cooper is on the AJ show for a brief interview
>Cooper then said he did more research into Jones and found out he wasn't really telling the truth, or at the least being irresponsible in his reporting
>Someone called the Alex Jones show and asked why he didn't have cooper on more often
>Jones said he had to discontinue dealing with cooper because in the one and only 1998 interview he used foul language and was a jerk
I've listened to the entire 1998 broadcast and it went quite well to completion, with cooper saying "bullshit" one time only, which was received well.
Then in 2001:
>Cooper did a broadcast on the fraud of Alex Jones, playing actual clips from his New Years Eve 1999 broadcast where he claimed parts of Slavic europe were shut down and unguided missile barrages were happening into cities due to Y2K
>Jones also insinuated near the end that russia had launched nukes
Cooper did NOT say he was a jesuit agent, deep state or anything of the sort. He simply said people who practice jones` style of "journalism" will discredit the movement they represent.
He also said he doesn't know if he's working for them or just an unwitting agent, which is somebody who's not associated with (((them))) but whos work directly helps them in some fashion.
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That's probably true but there's also conflicting reports for his death.
According to the official story he shot a deputy point blank in the head, said deputy survived perfectly fine, and they killed him as he ran back into his home; he only had one fucking leg.
Alex "Cointelpro" Jones vs William "Based" Cooper
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does "pissed up" mean "drunk" in british?
No he was definitely shot for resisting arrest right enough. But he claimed the bad leg you mention was the result of an assassination attempt when his car was run off the road. Except everyone else involved said it was drunk driving.
Yes
also, regarding kennedy, i've heard the 'driver shot him' theory, but i'm still undecided. that whole situation is a murky swamp from my perspective.
This was a "great experiment" to see if man was capable of ruling himself, and if he was, this would be the culmination of the Great Work. But you will also find in their writings that they understood human nature better than any of us do, or probably ever will, for they knew...they knew that, with the keys built into the Constitution, we would give up our creator‐endowed rights and trade them for benefits from the State, thus relegating ourselves back into the old ‐‐ the old position of owned property. We would become indentured to the State for accepting these privileges. But they knew, that people did then as they do today ‐‐ except for a very few people who really understand and appreciate freedom and understand the responsibilities and the consequences that go along with it ‐‐ they understood that most people spend the first 20 years of their lives struggling to become responsible and to be accepted as a man or a woman in their own right, able to be responsible, strike out on their own, build a business, sign contracts. And once they discover the responsibilities and requirements that freedom demands, they spend the rest of their life trying to crawl back into the womb searching for a daddy...a daddy to take care of them.
That's why socialism is so attractive to most people, ladies and gentlemen. It tells them they no longer have to be responsible, and in exchange for their freedoms, daddy the State will take care of them. Daddy the State will give them a job, Daddy the state will pretend to pay them if they pretend to work. Daddy the State will provide them with some sort of a hovel in which they can live, so they don't have to worry about paying the rent. Yes, Daddy will even change their diapers and give them clothes to wear. Daddy will tell them what time in the morning they can go out on the street, and what time in the evening they must be inside their hovel. Daddy will discipline them. Daddy will make sure that there's no crime.
>gimpy leg
Proof?
>Naval position
Well there is that one photo of him in the Navy, so we know he was at least in the Navy. Also are you referring to that one radio "cooper expose" where the guy says he investigated cooper in the navy and found out he did nothing more than "serve coffee to the admiral"? Do you really think they would tell some random guy calling up that "Yeah he had the highest security clearance and decoded classified material"?
>Aliens
Cooper admitted he was wrong about Aliens, and prior to 1989 did not fully research what he was talking about. He said it was one of the lowest points of his life when he realized this, and he decided from that point on to stick only to the facts. You may or may not accept this. In reality no one is perfect and just starts off life telling the truth until the day they die. Mistakes are made.
We can go further than Cooper these days now that information about the Council for National Policy has leaked.
The democrats/republicans scam has a more sophisticated version of CFR/CNP scam. Look at the folks associated with the CNP and most of Alex's major guests are in it. Alex recruits heavily from stratfor and what not.
And then you can see Cooper's work on mystery babylon,
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where it was conclusively shown that all the secret societies organize into a supra-structure. So we've had proof that Bilderberg, CFR, CNP, freemasons, knights templar, etc., all converge into the same mystery babylon conspiracy.
For someone who is well researched, there isn't any remaining doubt about who the "globalists" are, how they operate, etc. Yet, Alex Jones miraculously seems not to be able to get it and articulate it. Liar or retarded? Little bit of both.
Cooper predicted 9/11:
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Don't let anyone tell you we didn't know ahead of time anymore. Private citizens knew it was coming, not just the government. The only way it could happen was if the government wanted it to happen.
very interesting. watching your links now. how does this affect your view of trump and jones' support of him?
Didn't Cooper ripoff the movie 2010 in one of his conspiracies? Claiming Jupiter would explode into a sun? He's already been proven wrong.
Following coopers involvement with paranet, and then MUFON, MUFON started to have doubts so they asked one of their Directors of Investigations, Don Ecker (saucerheads will know the name) to look into Cooper
Jerome Corsi and worldnetdaily are Council for National Policy, funded by the Rothschilds.
Steve Bannon is Council for National Policy, funded by the Rothschilds.
Alex Jones isn't a known member, but he does cover up the CNP so you can infer the obvious:
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So there you have it, your conspiracy/alt-right "opposition" designed by, funded by, and courtesy of the "globalists" they are allegedly fighting.
He was in the navy, he reckoned preparing briefings. In this position he reckoned he saw material relating to the Kennedy assasinations, and various ufo files. He also claimed to have been in the USAF. But every time he was challenged his stories changed. He also endorsed the mj12 papers which were almost certainly an AFOSI psyop (see Richard doty)
If you're into this stuff you'll know Kevin Randle of roswell investigation fame. Here's his take on cooper
kevinrandle blogspot co uk/2010/09/william-cooper-and-behold-pail-of-horse.html
your youtube is in my queue. i fucking hate politics.
Disinfo.
Bill Cooper himself explicitly rejects the britbong's claims here:
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His only "endorsement" of MJ12 is that he saw the papers, but he also says straight up that he thinks they were given to him in the hopes that he would leak them.
you won't find good american redpillers, they are very rares over internet and most don't give names because they are affraid, the social pressure is too big. It's the same reason you don't have openly speaking japaneses or germans.
If you want to see the ultimates repills you have to look in direction of Italy, France, Israel (specifically self hating jews, who are the best providers or redpills all over the world) or few arabs countries like Iran.
Sadly most of them aren't translated in english, that's a shame.
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here a free redpill about circumcision by Roger Dommergue Polacco de Ménasce (rip), a french jewish professor at Paris university and doctor in endocrinology, btw he come from one of the 10 most powerful and wealthy family in the world, what you burgers call the Illuminati.
Much of what he says rings true but attacking the Freemasons seems out of order - Randall Carlson is a Freemason and seems pretty on point especially regarding climate change.
There are useful dupes in every organization. Cooper says repeatedly that the low level members don't comprehend what they are doing or party to.
See, for example, his "William Morgan" series:
correct me if i'm wrong, but cooper never joined any order.
Don Ecker fucking wrekt cooper.
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cooper lied and made shit up. You fuckers believe in OH Krill too? CinPacFleet...
So what's the basic gestalt on this cooper guy?
A quick rundown would be ok too
>Alex Jones' predecessor.
Cooper hated Jones, Jones was involved in his death along with Joe Rogan.
Oh please.
>Attacking the Freemasons seems out of order
You've got to be fucking kidding me. They literally rape and sacrifice infants, you fucking degenerate lowlife. They destroy religions. They corrupt nations. They enslave the masses. They harvest your fucking soul, your energy, your time, your money, everything. And you stand there and defend them. Fucking disgusting.
>Randall Carlson
A fucking degenerate rapist.
Fucking hell hell mate its in BAPH.
All the mj12 material is from the papers, and the a51/s4 stuff from bob lazar
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Krill was fucking hilarious. I read he ended up threatening lear over that
upon further review, i find him in line with alex jones. i don't trust you.
>he doesn't use the catalog
Hello newfriend
>i don't trust you.
share ur paranoid reason bro.
william cooper is a hero
the mystery babylon series is a must listen
there's no logical reason to hate his chidren, they're great, as for his wife she was very much in the background? and he sent his family away before he was murdered
Don Ecker didn't do shit but remind people about Coopers UFO days pre-1990, which I've already stated, Cooper regretted claiming upon further investigation most of which turned out to be BS, much like the key players in the alien/ufo community.
Don Ecker was director of research for UFO Magazine which cooper exposed as having CIA agents working for, so of course Ecker would try and discredit cooper.
Don't qutoe me on the above cuz I'm remembering it from years ago.
Cooper discredited himself. He was a drun and a madman. Ecker merely described Bill cooper; A man who's description is so egregious a stranger might think it slannder but upon further examination would see that the man was a raving lunatic and a drunkard.
i'm going back and forth right now. i don't trust anyone.
>i don't trust anyone.
You don't have to tell people though. Welcome to adulthood.
You're trying to discredit the character, not his message. I didn't personally know Cooper and frankly a lot of his macho bravado stuff irritated me, but since I'm a mature, intelligent person I continued on focusing on the message, which is absolutely crystal clear & right, in my view.
It also sounds like you listened to a few Ecker broadcasts on Cooper and are just rolling with it, believing every single word out of Eckers mouth.
fuck you
alex jones is trash
KRLLLLLLLLLLLLL
The message is a good message. But it isn't coopers message. The man was a parasite not a paragon.
The message is all that matters in this case. Just like it doesn't really matter if the physical Jesus Christ existed or not, his message as told directly from him is a good message. I'm not comparing Cooper to Jesus btw just using an example.
Stop defending the raving lunatic. Find someone else who matters and defend them.
This is a cute tactic by shills, but it is obviously useless.
Name another person who exposed a false flag before it happened.
Bill Cooper singlehandedly destroyed the 9/11 myth by calling it out before it happened and therefore debunks all the war of civilizations garbage that the old order is seeking to exploit to bring us into a global totalitarian society.
Actions speak louder than words, and Cooper's did the most in his day.
>This is a cute tactic by shills
You saying I'm a shill?
Who sent me? Don ecker? Nick Redfern? who's your paranoid fantasy involve?
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Want to get mindfucked?
Just straight up wreck my mind familia.
For those who believe Don Ecker "exposed" Cooper
That was debunked twenty years ago. Now it serves as evidence as to how much cooper lied. You're literally making my point lad.
>OP here
I approve of this message.
pretty sure he was briefly a part of the order of demolay
You're wrong and lying.
See how easy it is to be right?
His predecessor isn't Cooper. It's Bill Hicks
spoopy
hm, you could be right
Jones is way way way deep.
There's a video on YouTube of a compilation of where AJ flips out and screams like a banshee about how they can get to him, his friends, his family, and how he "doesn't really want to do this"
Do you think I'm a shill?
Tell me about your fantasy
naw, Bill Cooper's successor is Ghost
No, Bill Hicks IS Alex Jones
That's my point. There is no "Alex Jones"
Probably a pseudonym that the CIA gave Hicks.
If someone has a side-by-side of Hicks and Jones, post it. Wanna see the similarities
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the ones most worth listening to are the mystery babylon series, there's nothing else really like it
the quick run down on them:
it's not a specific group, it's all an allegory for power
his waco reporting is also top notch
He worked as a deliberate well poisoner for years and years and other than coming out with a change of heart regarding 9/11 and bin laden being the patsy his content is just that. Well poison to discredit"conspiracy theories".
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ECKER TOTALLY EXPOSED
how will he ever recover.
irregardless, it still doesn't change the fact the cooper was a drunk and a liar.
Audio of drunken cooper leaving death threats.
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he's the horse you wanna bet on?
You can bash his character all you want, go ahead. His answering machine messages sound absolutely batshin insane, yeah. Who hasn't been embarassing while drunk? Again, his message about truth still stands. Cooper could have been a pedophile for all I care, it still wouldn't change anything about his message.
>Cooper could have been a pedophile for all I care, it still wouldn't change anything about his message.
you typed that.
it's not "his message". it's quite common.
>Worked for US navel intelligence
Alex Jones just some dude from Texas.
Behold a pale white horse was like reading excerpts from Wikileaks.