Liberals are bad enough, but how can anyone actually be a communist?
It's such a failed ideology time and time again but there are still edgelords out there who claim it
How can people be so fucking stupid? And how has one of their threads exist here for just recently?
When will this cancer really die?
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Lol, I'm a communist. Suck my dick.
You know how some fucktards unironically march in public roleplaying as nazis and do nothing else productive for their community or race?
Well there are different flavors of this retardation.
>suck my dick
>my dick
>not suck the people's dick
See not even edgelords actually follow their own meme, how's it feel to follow the biggest failure of an ideology since the dawn of the 20th century
They are pathetic larpers. They even go around calling each other comrade. It's high comedy!
Yea but to believe in an economic and governmental system for society that's so flawed and retarded Is insane.
Hating niggers for simply being niggers is one thing, dressing up like a Nazi and unironically marching around is another, but to belive communism works today is truly the epitome of stupidity
Communists and liberals are pretty much the bane of western civilization, thankfully the commies have all but been eradicated for the most part
I'm so tired of you Amerisharts trashing up this board.
Look at the other threads. Can you not see why your shit is so fucking basic in comparison?
Please lurk just a tiny fucking bit more.
You are unironically using the term "liberal" to refer to leftists, like some completely uneducated baby boomer on a Sean Hannity appreciation Facebook page.
Fucking kill yourself you worthless scum.
Sage.
>amerishits trashing Sup Forums
>American founded this website
>this is an American made website
>getting triggered because your commie ideals are being exposed as bs again
>being this stupid
To be this retarded is incredible but I guess it all makes sense as only a retard would follow communism in the first place
Liberals like you, are why, I still, come here
love your tears, lib tears keep Sup Forums well oiled and ready for battle. I love it my boy.
Eat shit nigger, and gtfo out of Germany go back to Syria they don't want you in the fatherland anymore
LMFAO
Hit too close to home for you huh
The International worker's movement, which is prerequisite to world communism, is dead & buried. There are no bona fide communists, only LARPing failures.
Basically, a "communist" is somebody who has disdain for being called a liberal in the same way that we hate normies. They are liberal hipsters who hate other liberals and act edgy to be different. That's it.
>You are unironically using the term "liberal" to refer to leftists
I don't know about Germany, but they are exactly the same thing in America. Leftists are known for being edgy hispter liberals.
Chances of a communist revolution in America: -9001%
Agreed, the LARPers are almost worst tho, seems like more than half the time these edgelords come from well to do families as well, I dunno what triggers it
Like this guy, I bet you money he's from a well to do family
>considering he's not a refugee kek
But he's an edgy commie boy pretending to be some American punk kid from the 80s
AMERRUCAA FUCKYEEAH GONNA MUTHAFUCKIN SAVE THE DAYE YEAH
>implying liberals and leftists aren't the same
Top fucking kek
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>It's such a failed ideology time and time again but there are still edgelords out there who claim it
Oh really? Communism and socialism are not failed ideologies at all. Quite the opposite in fact.
An ideology isn't failed just because some burger neet doesn't like it, sweetie.
Real question
When were aussies replaced by Canucks as top shit posters on pol, no bullshit real question
Scum
Show me a successful relevant communist country today
the thing that really activates my almonds is
>naziism/fascism
>killed about 60m in a worldwide war
>swastikas in any way are banned
>fascism is dead
>communism/socialism
>killed over 100m currently in brutal genocides of their own people
>hammer and sickle is still perfectly fine as a symbol
>still alive and well somehow despite fucking every country it influences
Australians are good guy shitposters that make you smile Leafs are leafs that make you cringe.
This as well, why is the greater picture of communism ignored? Why are the nazis the end all be all evil everyone says they are today?
Oh is that the difference, seemed like lately the aussies have taken sort of a back seat to shitpostings and join everyone else in bullying leafs who shit post
Can't you use a fucking wikipedia?
These guys were Communist.
It was a better time.
Cuba and Laos, next question
Yea but I already know the answer
>none
>successful and relevant
>Cuba and Laos
Kek
Is that during the depression?
people like you is why I come back here, an ad infinitem of keks and btfos. That and the aliens / larpers.
>>killed about 60m in a worldwide war
>being this bluepilled
>it's all da Nazees' fault!
Fascists were the only people who were trying to counter the communist death count in any serious way. Meanwhile useful idiots like FDR and Churchill sided with the Communists and helped them expand their influence.
If the Axis won WW2, Red China under Mao, Pol Pot, Communist Eastern Europe/Iron Curtain, Communist North Vietnam, dividing Korea into North Korea and South Korea, Communist Cuba, none of it would've happened, and communism would be a footnote in history. We would be seeing it the same way the brainwashed population sees "fascism" or "Nazism" now, but it won, and now cultural Bolshevism is the dominant culture in the West.
Inb4 China
>China
>communist
Perfect example /thread right there
Yeah, it's the Ford Hunger March, also known as the Ford Massacre.
Its good being right all the time isn't it? Seeing commies lose their shit for being wrong makes me feel alive too
Every communist I've met had been a pasty autist who's cut from the same cloth as bronies and furfags. They support communism because they know they cannot take care of themselves.
Communism is literally forcing everyone to raise autistic neets.
Fucking /thread right here
>go to war with a country for multiple reasons, one being you are against communism
>later have fewer freedoms than a communist country you lost to
Do you think those men marched for communism or for food?
>posting a graphic to prove a point with no context
Communism, because it was the quickest route to food.
You not knowing the context further proves my point.
>Every communist I've met had been a pasty autist who's cut from the same cloth as bronies and furfags
Literally this. There is something inherently NEET-like, LARPy and autistic about the commies of today.
Leftists are not liberal you fucking retard.
Leftists are against identity politics - BLM, SJWs, etc. and other bullshit that divides the working class. Leftists also understand that the refugee crisis is manufactured so they the bourgeoisie can benefit from cheap labor and further create class conflict.
Capitalism is for cucks.
Neoliberalism is slavery.
Any questions?
>can't explain myself just gonna say you have fewer freedoms now lol deal with it
K
Want to ride a helicopter with me?
Yea I got a question where were you brainwashed into believing that trash which school was it
>ozzie defending leftists
You truly are a meme in your own right and a rare one at that
I'll take burgers over your autistic kraut cuckolded asses anyday
I agree strongly with this statement and based poster.
>Sovietfag misses the times of soviet union
not going to happen
>actually supporting that pathetic CIA nigger
>actually thinking that he was good for Chile
Milton Friedman and his minions need to be hanged. A lot of the problems we are experiencing in the West is directly as a result of his policies that influenced Thatcher and Reagan. He was an evil little gremlin.
Based Hungary strikes again
>tfw not in a timeline where neither got a foothold
>defending a failed ideology that's killed hundreds of millions
Some people like to be contrarians. They don't think about actual matters much.
I feel the same, this is why communism is seen as not as bad as the nazis, when it's been worse.
Edgelords for the sake of edgelords
The fuck but the opposite has done so much better? Are you high boy. You think keynesian economics have done better?
That's cause you usually miss shitposting hours. Shitposting's tiring work mate
I was a Sup Forums cunt until 8 months or so ago. I actually read Marx, Zizek, Ha-Choon Chang, etc. These opened me to new ways of thinking.
Probably true, well it all makes sense to me now, I miss those quality shitposts but my sleep has been better. There's probably a connection there
What had you read before besides hanging on pol, no meme
>vietnam
>communist
lmao. it's very capitalist now. look up doi moi. private companies and property exist out the ass.
USSR was not communist. It was an attempt at Marxist-Leninism that failed. I think it was ahead of its time and got sidetracked early on by imposters. Most of those killed were due to famine because they couldn't manage the resources.
If the USSR experiment were applied today economically it would have far greater chance of succeeding.
Also stop falling for the muh 100 gorillion meme. It's propaganda. Stalin didn't kill that many people. It's the same as the muh 6 billion Jews meme. But even more inflated.
You don't think they wanted food and better pay more than a cataclysmic change to economics and government?
Lmao at confusing socialism with Keynesian economics (capitalism).. are you high my man? Also Keynesianism as applied by FDR saved you fucks from the depression. Remember that.
>rebellious man-babies who cries that all their problems is because of the big bad guberment
Cuba is becoming capitalist now because their economy has been stagnatibg for decades.
cbc.ca
Fuck off to leftypol and never come back. Your ideology is a fucking disaster.
You see where your falling into here don't you?
>but that wasn't real communism, real communism would work it just hasn't happened yet
You see how that's got holes in it don't you, it's not like history has few and far between number of countries who have tried communism and either it failed completely or evolved into a form of capitalism
You see the hole in what you just said right
Bastiat, Thomas Sowell, Pat Buchanon, etc. The usual pol material man.
But I will admit that I was far less well read. Listened to way too much Molymeme, PJW, Sargon, etc.
PREACH IT
>listening to a Greek about anything economic ever.
Discarded.
The war saved our ass, his policies did not. Also I'll bite then your talking about what, Marxist economics as opposed to keynesian?
Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyeless society. that's the definition man. Look it up.
USSR was an attempt at Marxist-Leninism (socialism).
We can argue semantics all you want.
It was an experiment at collectivism that transformed the USSR from an agrarian peasant society to a world superpower but it eventually failed for a lot of different reasons.. corruption, lack of advanced technology and a plethora of other reasons. I admit it failed.
Capitalism will also fail and is failing. The contradictions within capitalism are already becoming more and more noticeable. It will fail and we will transition to a new society one day just like feudalism eventually failed.
East German spotted
And friedman? Did you read him? Bastiat might be a little dated, who then why did Sowell and Buchanon and friedman (whom your familiar with at leaat) not strike a cord for you when something that has not worked into he world has?
I think that's a pretty fair question even tho it sounds the way it does
PREACHING BROTHER
>le not real communism man
Kys Bro
>but how can anyone actually be a communist?
dunno, onan...
>capitalism will always fail
Capitalism had existed since the Roman Empire. It gets stronger and adapts to its situation, which is why it's the best economic theory we have.
China abandoned socialism for Capitalism (Deng Xiaoping's reforms) The results were miraculous.
en.wikipedia.org
>China's economic growth since the reform has been very rapid, exceeding the East Asian Tigers. Economists estimate China's GDP growth from 1978 to 2013 at between 9.5% to around 11.5% a year. Since the beginning of Deng Xiaoping's reforms, China's GDP has risen tenfold.[28] The increase in total factor productivity (TFP) was the most important factor, with productivity accounting for 40.1% of the GDP increase, compared with a decline of 13.2% for the period 1957 to 1978—the height of Maoist policies. For the period 1978–2005, Chinese GDP per capita increased from 2.7% to 15.7% of U.S. GDP per capita, and from 53.7% to 188.5% of Indian GDP per capita. Per capita incomes grew at 6.6% a year.[29] Average wages rose sixfold between 1978 and 2005,[30] while absolute poverty declined from 41% of the population to 5% from 1978 to 2001.[31]
Absolute poverty reduced from a whopping 41% under the failed socialism meme to 5%.
Results of Vietnam's Doi Moi (allowing private business and property again)
vietrade.gov.vn
>Viet Nam poverty reduction rate has been improved unceasingly for a long period, with a very impressive rate of 2% per year. Thanks to the rapid growth rate, in only two decades, nearly 30 million people were lifted out of poverty.
30 million out of poverty.
Capitalism can not stop winning.
>capitalism is dying said increasingly nervous marx for the 170th time
Top kek
I'm just clarifying the misconceptions you guys have about socialists and socialisms not really focused on defending one specific form of socialism or whatever.
Socialism is very broad and you can't pigeonhole all socialists into one box. For example there is conflict between anarchists and Marxists-Leninisms on the issue of state. An anarchist would say that the USSR was a state capitalist society and not a socialist one for example.
Bakunin predicted the failure of Marx's policies way before the revolution even occured for example.
No it did not lmao. Private property and the private ownership of the means of production did not always exist and did not exist in Roman Times. Capitalism is relatively new. The modern form of capitalism is what I would call late stage capitalism. It is the most cancerous of all.
China isn't a good example of free market capitalism. The state has huge involvement in the economy. Isn't that corporatism? :^)
So noe you concede that Marx's theory of abolishing private business and property has been a failure. So now you advocate for anarchism? Which gets its shit pushed it by people who wield power and crush your commune?
No lie. I was unironically a socialist during late teen years (abolish all private businesses and property seize the means of production!)
Then I realized that out of all the economic theories, capitalism has the least amount of flaws. Which is why even the Nordic countries (which leftists dick suck the most) are ALL capitalists.
>Approximately 90% of all resources and companies are privately owned, with a minority of 5% owned by the state and another 5% operating as either consumer or producer cooperatives.[19]
en.m.wikipedia.org
Only 5% are co-operatives (mainly stuff like small vegetarian bakeries, and restaurants).
Nice fucking "socialism." Retarded cunt.
I'm with you there Aussie. Friedman was a homunculus little shit with no ideas. A shill, basically. Reaganite and Thatcherite thinking has undermined the west and done much more harm than good.
>Leftists are against identity politics
No they're not. They have been the ones pushing it the most.
That's all they've been caring about since the 60s, and even before that, it was just a different kind of "identity politics".
totalitarians arent communist
Yes I understand that communism is suppose to be stateless and all of that
>capitalism will fail just as feudalism has
There are no major cracks in capitalism, see unlike communism that requires people follow a certain way of thinking about economics, and they must all follow this thought process for it to run smoothly, such as no private property, work for all persons, your basically provided for by the society because everyone does their part, is precisely why capitalism can't fail like feudalism did.
Capitalism has no prerequisites for everyone to follow for it to be sucessful. It doesn't require one grand overall way of thinking it's free and all on the individual to make the choices. You make something people want, you sell it, they buy it, you make money. You grow bigger, hire workers, they make money and so on and so forth I could write it all day long. There's so many avenues that capitalism takes its hands spread so wide and far that it can't simply die. Not only that but it's so maliable and liquid like it can really adjust to almost any society, save for true communism. But the only society communism can survive in is one of total communism.
>No retort
>Better whip out my epic tu quoque
Fucking murder yourself until you're dead you dumb cunt.
>no it did not lmao
Private business employing workers literally existed during the Roman Empire. You're retarded. Read a book.
>china isn't free market capitalism
I never said it was free market capitalism, but it's capitalism. Private companies exists heavily in China. Private property exists. Nonetheless SEZs like Shanghai and Shenzhen exist which have much less state involvement.
And it's those private comoanies driving the growth bloomberg.com
At least you admit it isn't socialist anymore.
Yup especially to the working class. Free trade, free market and open borders is what Milton advocated. A disaster for the working class. He hated unions, he hated financial regulation, he hated borders, etc.
Basically just a shill for big cooperations and a disdain for the working man.
Honestly probably prefer actual Commies to Neo-Libs and Cultural Marxists.
Srs.
Lmao.
marketwatch.com
Capitalism is GOAT. Socialism failed. Many such cases!
I agree. Leftism is practically dead nowadays. It has been co-opted by liberal shills. Modern leftism has been completely taken over. This is why I don't join leftist clubs or participate in protests there are all ID-pol scum.
We need to get back to class politics and focus on economics instead of muh refugees muh trannies muh vagina.
Yea don't keep reading the replies you fucking autistic
Literally kill yourslef right now like big brother American tells you too, that's a good goy
Delusion.
A Polish intellectual posted this.
It's because communism was made by (((them)))
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Capitalism has been tried and it's been successful. Like your pee drinking emu-fucked nanny state, which is capitalist.
Your ideology collapses on itself or goes back to capitalism.
>disdain for the workingman
His policies aren't disdain for the working man, the fuck. He's advocating for them most if anything. Those who have the drive and ability to make something of themselves will.make.something of themselves. If you put the work in you should be compensated for it. That's truly advocating for the working man, not fucking telling him what he's going to make, how he's going to make it, and how life is going to be for him in society. You say the USSR was not true communism, but it'seems fate can be directly attributed to communist like ideals that existed in the USSR. Things like technology advancement which and their failure of an economy was completely the direct result of no competition maketplace. The downfall of a communist country in a world that's not completely communist is inevitable and they share the same fate as the USSR
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>Understands the retardation of Communism
>Doesn't understand why people have the capacity for great stupidity
Just think for a moment OP.