When?

...

Soon, hopefully. Sweden needs competition.

When Occitania becomes independant and annex Catalonia.

Not any time soon. I don't know if I should be happy or sad though.

We are already gaining a reputation :(

Oh look everybody! It's lé étérnál fúnny frénch fággóté.

Isn't it full of commies anyways?

We are not even 30% of the population so I no longer give two shits. I hope it's over soon.

literally this

we have the cuck potential to play in the major leagues

Ben aviat =)
Encara hem de fer el Referèndum abans de la tardor, després la declaració de independència mentrestant farem les eleccions constituents per a fer de bell nou una nova carta magna. I ja només restarà el repartiments de bens d'actius i pasius de forma bilateral. Així, referèndum a l'estiu del 2017, constituents cap el 2018 i plenament independents cap els voltants dels anys 20' amb suport financer estranger per a encetar la nostra República ;)

Speak english u dickhead

Lol, how many of us here?

Nobody speaks fucking Catalan, at least speak Spanish cabron!

When they pay me back my 4% bro

>Not knowing about google translate
Anglo decadence...

...

>PSG blew a 4-0 lead

I would support this if only for the very chance that we could be made poorer

Wealth has made us weak

You have to go back.

Where?

It cracks me up how Catalonia wants to be independent AND to join the EU.

Mexico or wherever the fuck you come from :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

West Philadelphia.

Occitania-Catalonia would immediately be taken over by commies. Aude Departement votes PS/PCF/FG by huge margins.

Lol just kidding. Im ok infrench and spanish so I gotchu senpai.

Man catalan is a mix of both languages. Kinda strange desu.

Quel pays vous donnez l'argent?

I have Cuban family, so I learn some Spanish.

If these faggots love communism so much why don't they just fuck off to Cuba?

Those are the literally Soros funded parties. And since the Castilians have brought with them the laziness genes everybody is too lazy to research information or fund a new party. And now they are indoctrinating children in high schools about "refugees".

Cituadans looks fine for me

>castillian bogeyman

our cuckdom is homebrewed

It's called Latin: French, Spanish and Catalan (and surprisingly 60% of English) come from that language. Didn't they thaught you this at primary school Anglo?

They are cuck as fuck, they even attended that refugee protest. Also they are a bunch of traitors.

The Catalonia is communist is just a meme.

No

Im not anglo. Im quebecois but moved to uk when i was 9 so i lost my french but can read it

UNA
GRANDE
CATOLICA

We use some accents so written it looks like French more than Spanish or Italian.

>t. Comrade Raul Gradizinsky

Well then what is your basis to say that?

>biggest podemos voters in spain
>meme
you're blind to reality

as someone from the carlist youth I can tell that you have no fucking idea, catalans are mostly degenerate and socialist
els tradicionals som quatre gats i els carlistes no volem la independencia, catalunya es mes comunista que andalusia

I wonder if i could get by just speaking french there

Because I can.

>catalunya es mes comunista que andalusia
Catalunya és andalusia. Després de com ens han donat pel cul els txarnegs en els últims 200 anys hauria de passar alguna cosa molt grossa perquè els donés suport.

Spoken is diffetent and since we have been invaded by all sorts of foreigners almost everybody speaks S*panish.

Most likely never, muh independent catalonia is something every catalan politician has to promise if he wants to be elected, it doesn't go further than that

Oh well. Hablo un poco espanol tambien.

How do you say i speak catalan in catalan

>I wonder if i could get by just speaking french there
no
we can sort of understand each other's written languages, but catalan is similar to spanish in that we pronounce words like they are written, every letter having it's separate sound, unlike french

understanding is wayyy easier between catalan and italian for instance

Parlo/enraono/xarro català.

>castillians out
>niggers and arabs in

Left-wing nationalism is a joke.

When the Muslims take over and re-establish the emirate of Córdoba

If you ask me everybody out. But the left doesn't want to kick anybody out though, they suck everybody's cock.

Parlo un po di italiano, ma non bene. C'e solo 1 paese che utilizza italiano e non vale la pena per inparare

Imparare. Hope u understand my italian is v. Rusty

Oh sure podemos won in the spanish elections, and they were specially strong in Barcelona metro area.
And yet in the catalan elections they got 4th place.
Who could be behind those votes, Jordis or Manolos? Really makes you think.

Anch'io parlo italiano, è una lingua facile d'imparare.

Tue fucking CUP and you know it brother.

ASAP I want to have a cuckier flag than sweden

wherever podemos didn't win, ERC did
catalonia is cucked to death and you can't take the easy way out by blaming some aragonian third generation immigrants, reality is that catalans are swede tier

How is the flag cuck? It's really good, although I'd rather the one with the eagles of Sicily.

Niggers and arabs in because the spanish goverment wants that. Once we become independent we will have control of our borders.
Since when a region can decide anything about immigration? Cmon think before posting.

Pretty much because instead of nigger rioting in sweden and cucked sweds that let their wife fuck ahmed while they watch, we will have brand new level of cuckoldry if catalonia is ever independent

All the parties in Spain even PP are cucked. I don't even understand why are tpu defending them after they have destroyed our country first with andalusians and now with sandniggers. Remember it was Aznar who allowed most of them in in the 2000s? At least with independence we have the chance to found a nationalist party.

I guess so but theres no use. Like france theres many but only 1 country speaks italian and thats turning into somalia.

It helps u are catalan as well whereas i am in Britanistan

Spain is as cucked as us and you know it. You are already starting to take in refugees. Also remember that bus in madrid and that flag in the townhall?

>aznar

are you retarded? andalusians have been here way longer than that
I'm not defending castillians, but the idea that we're right wing übermenschen and some castillian immigrants made us cucks is hypocritical and ridiculous

most "le ebin pure catalans" are voting CUP and ERC, blaming the problem on some andalusian immigrants which we have assimilated to a certain degree is counterproductive. I'm a carlist as I said before, and I see much more degeneracy and marxism between indepe types than anywhere else

Basically this.
Really, it is like that, literally.

I just learned it in a summer when I was bored. Since it's quite similar it was really easy. French is also useless: only niggers in africa speak it apart from France and Canada.

Yeah Spain is cucked as fuck but I think we're one step ahead.
We wuz the ones that organized the pro refugee demonstration :DD
And I think that the independence would be a tipping point into unimaginable levels of cuckoldy
Even if madrid is pro-podemos they stil cant get a gommie into the government because based castillas and galicia vote PP mostly, meanwhile in catalonia ERC+CUP would own this shithole

if there was a remote chance for a catalan right wing nationalist party it would've happened already, see PxC, which weren't even extremists, they were just like "maybe less immigration please? we have enough problems amongst regular catalans"

>EVERYTHING IS THE CASTILLIANS' FAULT!!!!!1!1!!
No wonder why no one likes you.

someone redpill me on Catalonia

I'm talking about the moors, aznar allowed them in. The andalusians are Franco's fault. Spain is as cucked as us and it was the Catalan=bourgesy meme due to immigration that turned people communist. Being Carlist nowadays is a meme, the pic above was to remind you that we weren't the cucks in the past. Now the catholic church is too cuck to support.

We're gay.
Very much so.

Spain's Sweden, not even California is as cucked as them.

>PP
>based
They only do what the EU tell them to do and are corrupt as fuck. Are you all idiots here or what? Remember Aznar's muslims?

mal flipat, xarnego

Tell me what's the different between Catalonia and Spain in this? What based party with popular support do they have that is worth sacrificing the motherland?

>Post-Alianza Popular PP
>Based
This isn't the 80s, user

do you think the independence is a good idea?

But how do you expect any antimigratory party to win when the majority of the population are immigrants?
Become right wing nationalist has to happen after independence.

>Being Carlist nowadays is a meme
no, it's principles, tradition and reclaiming the fueros, supporting a different monarch is a historical side effect

I hate it that we're flooded with andalusians and moors, I think we're better than them too and I'd rather we were separated, but as another user said, it's catalan names behind the refugee march, behind the extreme left parties, behind the feminist movements... we can't blame this on the castillian bogeyman, we have to own up and take care of our mess, catalonia is not the place it was 200 years ago

Never fucking ever, faggots

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>Tell me what's the different between Catalonia and Spain in this? What based party with popular support do they have that is worth sacrificing the motherland?
the point is not that spain is handling it better, but they have regions which are solid PP voters which while being cuckservative, it's tons better than being solid marxist voters like us
you won't see podemos being 1st in galicia

Catalonia is French.

This. I'm talking with friends and most of them agree the mudslimes need to go back.

The independence would just isolate Catalonia since the EU doesn't even want them nor NATO. It would weaken the shit out of both sides.
Maybe if PP actually recognise the little they beg for then they would shut the fuck up.

What i mean is that 100 mill + know french and spanish whereas only a few million know catalan and only 50 odd million know italian and italy is full cuck.

Nice learning bro. Espero ir a Catalunya por una vacaciones. Algun recommendacion?

Tambien es catalunya muy cucked? Es verdad que hay muy degeneracy?

Speak American or Mexican otherwise no one will understand you here you repulsive communist

gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

Carlism requires to support the curch and the church is cucked. Also Carlism is too reactionary (stop sucking international kike cock to suck local kike cock). I believe a Nationalism (defending tradition) with anti liberal economic policies is the way to go.

>imblyin

Carlist National-Syndicalism. The ultimate redpill

PP is already taking refugees in and in the next election they will have to take in even more because they are going to lose votes. Both paths lead to the same ending but one gives us the chance to create the country we could have had if some things had been different in history and try to redpill our compatriots. The other only involves recieving most of the immigrants Spain will take in in the following years while having to strugle for the right to speak our own language. The choice is easy mate...

>Implying leaving the EU is bad
Fuck, is this Sup Forums today or what?

This. We are beyond salvation just make it quick

Yes it's full of sandniggers and niggers and lots of gypsies stealing. I'd advise you to fo to Batcelona (some nice buildings there) but be careful.

>Carlism requires to support the curch and the church is cucked
all carlists I know are catholics but hate this pope, they're not cucked in any way

also: how do you expect anything to change after independence?

most likely scenario:
>ERC wins elections for republic of catalonia, or maybe even CUP if our bad luck goes that far
>in any case: immigrants are not going anywhere, moors are staying and third generation andalusians moreso
>socialist policies crank up taxes, we're suddenly paying more than with spain
>govt goes full pro-refugee, we start taking even more shitskins
>feminism and degeneracy are at historical highs
>situation gets so fucking bad we're making weimar seem conservative
>right wing nationalist party starts to get support
>since ethnic catalans are

If so it cant face the same dillema as Scotland, where they want to break off and be apart of the EU

We're never going to convince people with this though. The only realistic choice is some Le Pen trier party.

We've both taken the blackpill. But I like to think about ways to revert the situation and independence seems the only chance.

I just wanted to show how easy it would be for Spain reannex you.

And we are going to take most of the immigrants Spain take which is the same problem. But with independence we could at least have a small chance to revert the situation, without we will only eventually follow podemos' orders.