ITT I explain the bare bones principles of National Socialism in the most basic language I can. I am doing this to enlighten people since /nu/pol seems to be ruining this board even worse than it has in previous election cycles and nearly every other thread starts with a Twitter screencap along with some attempt to be quirky and funny. Ridiculous to say the least. Anyways,
Many of you seem to be pretty ignorant when it comes to socialism. Socialism does not work if the state is NOT ethnically homogeneous. The state should not exist as a welfare state. It should exist to preserve its people and culture. I know the meme that Sweden and other Scandinavian countries are turning into Islamic shitholes, and while Sweden is definitely welcoming its own destruction, these countries are commonly used as examples to defend socialism by citing the successes of these particular countries.
Why does it work for Scandinavian countries? They're ethnically homogeneous, for the most part. Of course, they lack the "nationalist" element of National Socialism.
In a National Socialist society, the citizens of the state must be bound by blood to the soil of the state. In Germany, only ethnic Germans could be citizens. In France, only ethnic French can be citizens. You get the point. No third-worlders to leech off of the state.
As I said before, a National Socialist state is not a welfare state. The citizens do not get to live off of the labor of others. All citizens must work.
I will explain more later on when I have the time. For now, let this thread be a general discussion for the topic of National Socialism.
Nathan Smith
>nig in id
It's not often that I post on here, and then when I do, I get rewarded with this. Pretty cool if I say so myself.
Nathaniel Powell
Well said. Heil Hitler
Noah Jackson
National Capitalism is better
Lincoln Myers
Then what of the U.S.? Can a multi-ethnic mono-cultural society ever exist?
Julian Johnson
rome
Jayden Gray
If it's all white, certainly. The U.S. in it's most successful years was not socialist let alone national socialist, but it was ethnically diverse. White Americans have a diverse group of ancestors. Germans, French, Scots, Norwegians, Swedes, English, you get my point.
David Morales
What do you, and other members of natsoc/alt right ideologies, propose the ideal system is in America? We will never have an ethnostate, and are very diverse.
Jace Diaz
I have a dream.
Justin Johnson
bump
Jackson Powell
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Joseph Wright
>Socialism does not work if the state is NOT ethnically homogeneous.
why would it work if it's homogenous ? whats the secret ?
If im french canadian (european descent) born in QC, can i be a citizen of a natsoc France ?
I often hear that ''the socialism on natsoc isnt the same of marxism socialism''. whats the difference ?
Anthony Watson
You can't state in one paragraph how Sweden is about to change into Somalia and then go on about how great it is. Socialism encourages stagnation and rewards lazy and unproductive people while it punishes the enterprising and successful people. Kys and sage.
Grayson Morgan
Please go on OP. Tell me why national socialism is better than national capitalism. Also why ethnic nationalism over cultural nationalism?
Nathan Russell
Oh and one more question. Whh did nazi Germany feel the need to invade and conquer other countries if ethnic and cultural homogeny is important/necessary?
Isaac Anderson
It would work for the same reason people help each other in a family. The reasoning is that your genes are the reason of your success so this is more logical to help people of your own that some African nigger. A country should work the same way as a wolf pack. The leader is inexplicitly chosen because he's trusted by every members at the same time.
Nathan Peterson
None. It's both socialism. Look up North Korea for ethnically homogenous socialism and marvel at its achievements. Other than that, commies often think that debt is the same as profit. Sweden and the other cuckold "countries" OP is gay for have massive debts, hidden with all possible accounting tricks. The day of reckoning will come soon, so those depressing shitholes will get desinfected soon.
Ethan Walker
National Socialism could work in the U.S. but only if it was white. Therefore I don't think it could work here. At the same time capitalism is just as susceptible to Jews as communism, so I'd have to say I would view fascism as the most ideal system for the U.S. and probably the most compatible with the current demographics.
Great pic
National Socialism hasn't been given much of an opportunity to exist so most of what there is on the topic is based off of the precedent set by Germany. It would make sense that if you are of French blood, you could legally immigrate to France and become a citizen there.
The easiest way I can sum up the difference is that Marxism FORCES equality, even when two individuals are clearly unequal, whereas National Socialism grants equal opportunity to both individuals to make something of themselves through work. Marxism = forced equal status, NatSoc = equal opportunity
I suggest you learn reading comprehension.
Parker Collins
No explanation why socialism doesn't work without an ethnically homogeneous population. No explanation why a nationalist element can help. I'm genuinely interested but for fucks sake if you are going to explain why natsoc works you need to have a fucking argument
Mason Reyes
NatSoc rewards individual efforts unlike Marxian Socialism. The idea is to prevent a mutually destructive competition and emphasis collective contributions instead of selfishness.
Austin Harris
Two things. I believe that even though white south africans are not ethnically from the U.S., we should accept every single one of them who is a decent member of society and did not vote for the current regime or the commies. Would a national socialist society accept foreign refugees?
And, how do you define fascism?
Thanks for posting, this is a good thread
Well, socialism was "working" in a lot of european countries before they let the migrants invade. Now it is collapsing.
Charles Green
National Socialism is preferable as the state exists to secure the future existence of the people. It protects not only the blood of its people, but their culture, their environment, and ensures their well-being. Cultural nationalism is actually something that sounds great - in an ethnically homogeneous state. However, boat in hordes of Africans, and culture degenerates. It devolves. Unless the culture of your people is actively protected from outside influences, it will be perverted and destroyed.
I won't comment too much on World War II and I'll leave you to your own opinions, but Germany did offer peace. The general narrative is that Germany decided to invade Poland for no real reason other than for territory. Poland was looking to instigate a war with Germany and began the slaughter of ethnic Germans within its borders. The invasion of Poland which essentially began the war was practically self-defense.
Kayden Reed
What's the difference between regular Fascism and NatSoc.
Jordan Baker
I suggest you ask a family member to read that again for you. Again, Sweden and Finland have become memes because of socialism, not despite of. But hey, if you like it so much, try to get an apartment there. What is that? You can't because the government got the numbers wrong and gave all the appartments to shitskins? Damn.
Chase Mitchell
rome was only virile and strong as an ethnostate.
when they took in too many foreign peoples they collapsed.
Mason Foster
Then how do we enforce a single culture?
Asher Cruz
>ITT I explain the bare bones principles of National Socialism in the most basic language I can. You probably can't even speak German, you neonazi fellating garbage cuck you. Fuck off and kill yourself.
Asher Taylor
Why don't you like nat soc? Were your parents Jewish?
Adam Wood
>Pariser Tagesblatt
I bet they weren't laughing anymore when they got their shit pushed in a few years later
Michael Phillips
>Many of you seem to be pretty ignorant when it comes to socialism
You're unironically pushing for socialism, on Sup Forums of all places? Don't think for a second that you won't be thrown out of a helicopter you degenerate.
Isaiah Jones
Fuck off
Ian Kelly
How is National Socialism superior to Burkean Conservatism or 'Small c' conservatism?
Where's the sense on aligning yourself with a system that fared worst out of the three dominant ideologies of the 20th century?
>Conservatives believe that our identities and values are formed through our relations with other people, and not through our relation with the state. The state is not an end but a means. Civil society is the end, and the state is the means to protect it. The social world emerges through free association, rooted in friendship and community life. And the customs and institutions that we cherish have grown from below, by the ‘invisible hand’ of co-operation. They have rarely been imposed from above by the work of politics, the role of which, for a conservative, is to reconcile our many aims, and not to dictate or control them.
>The real reason people are conservatives is that they are attached to the things that they love, and want to preserve them from abuse and decay. They are attached to their family, their friends, their religion, and their immediate environment. They have made a lifelong distinction between the things that nourish and the things that threaten their security and peace of mind.
-Roger Scruton
How is this sentiment different from the Natsoc sentiment you claim to have other than being more socially acceptable?
Michael Sullivan
>why would it work if it's homogenous ? whats the secret ?
genetic similarity is the basis for human altruism. I can cite you studies if you'd like
>If im french canadian (european descent) born in QC, can i be a citizen of a natsoc France ?
states were once defined by shared blood, not by arbitrary borders
Joseph Robinson
>German flag
Sad, desu
Seems like the only Fascists/natsocs on this board are American/Canadian/Australian
Kayden Morris
Which begs the question why citizens of the free world wish to be cucked and dominated by some Austrian dude with one nut.
Dominic Nelson
>shilling for (((capitalism)))
Good goy, let the (((bankers))) outsource your job and destroy your environment for their own profit.
Luke Jenkins
>German aryan great grandfather >He defected and came to fight for allies in WWII NatSoc is a dogshit ideology, glad it will never return.
Freedom, democracy and capitalism will reign forever.
Christian Rivera
Good job posting a Jewish double agent to underscore your point.
Jack Cooper
a homogeneous state has an identity and community spirit, which means people will work as they care for their national community, and won't engage in parasitic behavior. the point of national socialism is not to build a welfare state, but a national community
Chase Ross
Capitalism has created more innovation and has benefited mankind far more than any other political system that has been tried. Socialism has failed time and time again and has resulted in nothing but mass starvation and political persecution. There is no reason to think that it will work if it was done by ethnically similar people considering it was tried in yugoslavia and Spain and it resulted in the exact same result. Try to keep that in mind the next time you call someone a jew but then push for a jewish economic policy.
David Wright
Can someone explain to me how you can have fascism and not get analy raped by corporate jews later down the road. Natsoc isn't some magical spell ideology that cancels out corruption.
Wyatt Smith
half of the territories invaded by Germany were germanic by blood, the rest were claimed as colonial territory. colonial territory would provide land and resources to help fuel the national socialist promise
Chase Allen
the jews can't jew u if u deny them residency and citizenship
Zachary Watson
>freedom Shit
>democracy Shit
>capitalism Literally worse than Marxist socialism
Noah Russell
Thicc
Luke Rogers
It's coming soon. We're cracking through the normies.
The jews are afraid, and their "alt lite" subversion attempt utterly failed.
Ayden Sanders
you start with ancap then whites voluntarily form natsoc contracts on a blockchain and part of the contract is to disassociate your society from jews and browns
David Richardson
That isn't true today and hasn't even been true since Napoleon got cucked by them
Chase Morales
hmmm, seems you've asserted an opinion rather than an argument. If you hate freedom and democracy so much why not move to some of the following countries: North Korea, any Muslim country, China.
Henry Robinson
check out this edgelord. sounds like you rather be dead than alive. you cut yourself too little girl? but only on the inside of your thighs where mommy won't see, right? go fuck a koala.
Aaron Thompson
North Korea is socialist and homogenous, so you'd love it too.
Brayden Rodriguez
You can get rid of people wearing a skin color you don't like. That's easy. How are you going to stop people like soros who proxy war against you using your own cucked white citizens?
Kevin Carter
>North Korea Pretty great, desu
Alright, I'll argue
>freedom What is it? Freedom is subjective, and too much freedom is a bad thing.
>democracy The worst of the worst. America nearly voted in someone who would utterly fucking destroy their own ideals, democracy is nearly a popularity contest. Merkel presented herself as conservative, got In and went Mein Jihad on Germany.
>capitalism You know, for a board that complains about Jews they'll have no problem shilling for capitalism. Another horrible ideology, only reason it's popular is because it's seen as the only alternative to socialism, while it's not the truth. Big businesses will outsource jobs, fire a young 16 year old and hire and old immigrant for a few dollars a hour, and destroy the environment.
Jordan Turner
The only way is inevitable war with the nations that they inhabit, doesn't matter if you don't want it or not; it's the biggest reason why they pushed the US so hard
It's just the consequence of trying to switch to systems they can't exploit
Jacob Adams
>>North Korea >Pretty great, desu Mass starvation and death by mortar for watching anything other than state propaganda. You're beyond stupid.
Easton Gonzalez
Thank you.
Andrew Harris
"Homogenous community? No I'd rather a fully democratic society where I can get the choice to choose between Abraham and Schlomo, they're the exact same but at least I get to choose!"
Josiah Cruz
It can't work in the long run because things like social security require an ever growing population which is unsustainable. Socialism is a failure no matter how you frame it.
Grayson Turner
t. ahmed
Christian Reyes
This is basically how George Lincoln Rockwell say natsoc. More of a social order than the sort of bootlicking authoritarianism form that Hitler implemented.
Tyler Gutierrez
This thread is cancer. Get the pastebin for the generals and make a thread of it. All the required reading is in there. We don't need your horrible dumbdick explanations.
Michael Jenkins
Most shit you hear about NK in the (((press))) is propaganda by the Jews who are scared of a planned economy with a homogenous nationalist nation, who stops at nothing to stop foreign influence.
Don't worry Britain, when you die or turn into an Islamic Caliphate, we'll carry the torch for you.
It's been said, "Australia is more British than Britain" anyway.
Jack Evans
>Most shit you hear about NK in the (((press))) is propaganda by the Jews Go there then pussy. Go live in the North Korean utopia.