Tell me Sup Forums, why exactly doesn't Communism work?

Tell me Sup Forums, why exactly doesn't Communism work?

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Economic calculation problem

because individuals are too different

communism was made by smart jews to control dumb goyim, and it worked

Because of the 80 gorilion that communist countries have killed.

But i still prefer a system where im only getting poorer, to the point where my kids will just starve to death, but its ok because atleast we arent commies.

Was literally created as an ideological weapon to destroy nations. The Germans used it in WWI to destroy Russia, as seen in your pic related. Dumb nigger.

central planning

because your capitalist overlords told you so

Right, Karl Marx wrote the manifesto whit the death of the white race in mind.

Also after Stalins death the Soviet union wasn't such a bad place to live ya know (until the 90's when everything went to shit)?

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Because people will not bust their ass for the same rewards as some slimy shit sitting at home.

Because perfect equality it a myth. Communists blame capitalism for human nature and ignore the darkness within themselves

Because centralized power/government and redistribution of wealth can't never be more effective then in free market economy.

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Also this.
Before some commie brings up how not everyone is not equal and doesn't start equal its not fair system.
System can't be fair and equal cause people are different. And everyone according to his ability

What in the fuck are you even saying?

Marx's intentions can be speculated on all day, the fact remains that the German war machine used it to destroy Russia from the inside.

USSR was a complete shit show. Even during WWII the faggots couldn't supply their war effort without endless supplies from the Allies. Even then they were so depleted that they were ordered to pick up the rifle of the guy in front of them because they didn't have enough rifles.

Even tactically they were a goddamn joke, as officers killed any retreating solider. Every battle was absolute slaughter on their side. Even fucking Stalingrad was a massive slaughter for them. The only thing that gave them an edge was Winter.

Because humans are selfish assholes

Its a purely rationalistic system that doesn't account for human nature.

Like matter, power cannot be eliminated or destroyed, only transferred. In the communist utopia a group leads the working class against the established burgouise, and after overthrowing them, the government is to be dismantled to usher in the stateless communist utopia.

Guess which part never happens.

Even if the leader is an absolute Saint, the people just below him in the hierarchy will have him killed and usurp the absolute power.

It works great if you assume (correctly) that Marx was a Jew who liked other Jews, and wanted to find a way to trick White Christians into giving power to the Jews so that they could murder millions of them.

If you think that Karl Marx, a man who spent literally his entire life refusing to do real work and abusing everyone around him, cared a single whit for any "working class" person, you're a fool. Marx hated the working class, and told them so several times. He saw them as a supply of suckling pig for himself, a way by which he might manage to avoid working by convincing them that he was fighting for them.

Because you always get some bastard who claims that "we all need leaders" and then rules over everyone else.

Can't keep the fruits of you labour.
That leads to a lack of incentive to work and better the community.

Pretty good rundown of communism applied to reality. But even this doesn't account for the numerous economical fallacies of communism.

>Cuba
>Decent standard of living
There is no such thing as a "Bosnian," there are just Serbs who betrayed their race and people to become Muslims.

The main pillar of communism is classless society. This is against not just human nature, but nature of living beings - the dominance hierarchy.
You can try to equalize people all you want, but you will never succeed.
And there's plenty of other flaws in this retarded ideology, but I think this one is critical.

Because it is led by communists.

Stop giving it undeserved praise

>it's so great and perfect, we are just not worthy with our shitty human nature.

It's economically blind and can by definition only be enforced by brute totalitarian force.

I know about the German funding of Lenin, but that dosent make the ideology bad, now does it?

> Even during WWII the faggots couldn't supply their war effort without endless supplies from the Allies.

Looks like you watched the movie Stalingrad and are now a professional on WW2 on the Eastern front. But let me tell you something. The Soviets didn't send unarmed men into the German lines, because they weren't as fucking retarded as you are.

As for the order 227. Yes it was a thing but the blocking detachments didn't kill millions of men that refused to charge. Now tell me smartass, in which army is retreat permitted? Do you get a fucking cake in the American army if you flee the fucking field?

And as for the winter part. It realy was a huge advantage and necessity for the Russians, as it allowed for the big counterattacks of late 1941, but still it was the Soviet tactic and men, that fought and won those battles. Also i dont remember fucking snow taking Berlin, now do i?

Because communism implies that humans will miraculously obey a civil system, They wont. Humans by nature are greedy, And want more in life. Capitalism accounts for this greed in part of a individuals wants to progress forward, Regardless if they step on on individuals or not. In communism all that happens is that a group of overwhelming power enforces a mandate of equal distribution while they themselves are exempt from this as being the means to properly distribute wealth. The governing body either cannot maintain its ability to properly distribute wealth properly, Or has to go to absolute extremes to achieve its ability to manage wealth. This is also coupled with military and other non-social costs means the quality of life is lowered to maintain the state. Social unrest occurs at this level and the rest history.

>Economic calculation problem
>No measurement of value = a functional economy is impossible
youtu.be/CmOUDMAtRt4

>Democracy and any "people's rule" just like "might makes right" philosophy, has no capability of objectively defining morals, and it is a spiral for inhuman norms.
>Democracy and such philosophies cannot logically explain themselves, there's no philosophical beginnig, or golden moral belief
youtube.com/watch?v=tBIKP4W50-I

>Communism was originally a redneck anti-intellectualism movement that thought all non-physical labor was leeching from farm and factory workers, and they basically wanted to marginalize anyone with a brain, and even in some cases murder them.
>One of the best chess players in the world at the time, was almost killed by firing squad for being a finance lawyer
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossip_Bernstein

It works great in theory but in practice it always leads to a CIA-backed coup.

Why can't you fucking idiots ignore bait? We've had this thread a million times and it reaches bump limit every time.

There's so much that's retarded and fallacious within communist ideology that one can simply choose which angle to take it apart from and easily dispense with it.

God damnit I have neo Marxists.

dont forget the lessons of history my dear simple goyim

The mark of a satanic kike trying to fuck you over is a star and use you and your entire country for their cause is a star.


Motzel Tov!!!

It completely ignores human psychology, and thus is unscientific and undialectical.

>ftw capitalism gave you the means of production

>I don't remember snow taking Berlin

I remember American (capitalist) grain, steel, weapons, and ammunition powering the soviet war machine. Ever hear of the lend lease act, retard?

see, his flag has a star

his "country"is part of the empire of satan

No, comrade, in theory it would exterminate every living person out of sheer economical inefficiency. In practice, people make black markets, governments backpedals commie policies, and it kills a lot less.

REEEE GET OFF MUH STARS AND STRIPES

A FUCKING TAMPON

>Its a purely rationalistic system that doesn't account for human nature.
I actually don't think it's rational at all. Any system that chooses to willingly ignore human psychology and yet involves humans on every level of the system is clearly a system that is bound to fail. You have to take into account human nature, and human nature isn't some vague term, but rather a science that can be measure and predicted and must be taken into account.

>Do you get a fucking cake in the American army if you flee the fucking field?
No. But you don't get tuned into swiss cheese
by your own countrymen either.

Because we aren't ants.

>Tell me Sup Forums, why exactly doesn't Communism work?

Communists doesn't work.

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his flag also has a star


he is also part of the empire of satan

His flag also has stars in it, it is run by devil worshipers as well.

Point taken.

But still desperate times call for desperate measures.

>Tell me Sup Forums, why exactly doesn't Communism work?

People drawn to collectivist ideologies are actually incapable people.

>the worst form of inequality is making unequal things equal
>have to build walls to keep people from leaving to a country with more freedom or conquer every other country
>economically more unstable and vulnerable than capitalism

read inside the soviet army it will give you the perception of a USSR general towards the communist government.

Right, I agree, I meant purely rationalistic from an entirely objective view of humans, viewing them as interchangeable agents of labor. This is the simplistic Marxist mentality

>not all people have achieved the same outcome (under the presumption that all humans are the same and interchangeable)
>some sort of oppression has occured!! The system must allow (force) equality

Of course, deeper knowledge will let one understand that not everybody is equal, but a simplistic, objective view of human society can lend one to believe such drivel

here's one flag that should have a star on it, but tries to pass of as if they dont

Yes, I suppose if humans are viewed of from an entirely physical view, like robots, then we are theoretically capable of Marxism.

Too much faith in basic humanity. It's human nature to strive for dominance.

>entirely physical view
That's the only scientific pov.

>human nature
There is no such thing

>You have to take into account human nature
That's why communism's not some cut-and-dry economic system that you're supposed to just implement in a present day society to turn it into a utopia.

there is. Islam proves that.

>>human nature
>There is no such thing
Yes there is

No, I mean "physical" as in ignoring the brain, ignoring human psychology. There's nothing scientific about pretending that humans aren't wired a certain way.

lol oh wait, it's got stars in it as well,


hahaha I just took a closer look at it.


yep, it's another satanic shit hole

How can you actually defend the Soviet war effort with a straight face?

>human psychology
It's a physical process. Matter is everything.

slovenians are subhuman dogs that should be exterminated

try it yourself

>It's a physical process.
Which communists choose to ignore. They pretend that the physical process doesn't occur.

>Which communists choose to ignore. They pretend that the physical process doesn't occur.
It looks like you never read communist author. Did you read Mao or Stalin? You should, because right now you're wrong.

Im not saying that it was perfect, far from it. It wasnt the best and it wasnt the worst.

>said the toilet cleaner

> They pretend that the physical process doesn't occur.
They don't.
There's plenty of arguments to make against communism but you need to actually understand what communism is first

That's autistically pedantic

No, we know that, we should want to assist the human brain technologically, either change the environment it functions(creating the conditions,context) or the brain itself.

>Did you read Mao or Stalin?
I thought they weren't "real" communists? Make up your minds people.

>They don't.
Yes they do. The French commie disagrees with you on that.

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>either change the environment it functions(creating the conditions,context) or the brain itself
But communists have made no attempt to change either, and in fact assume it will change on its own with no assistance whatsoever.

see >human nature
>no such thing

or both

>They don't.
Yes they do. The French commie disagrees with you on that.

>I thought they weren't "real" communists? Make up your minds people.
They're real communists.

I clean your subhuman slavo/gypsy mums dog fucked vagina.

what is fascism?

you ancaps are stuipid af to be honest.
That is why I have so much trouble asociating with you.

this is my political test, before you call me a commie.

of course it changes, evolution never stops (there are always random mutations that will change allele frequencies), but I disagree that we can't change our material conditions, the way we organize itself and use the most advanced technology for it.

The Six Paradoxes of Communism:
1. Everyone has a job, but no one actually does any work.
2. No one actually does any work, but production targets are always reached.
3. Production targets are always reached, but the shops are always empty.
4. The shops are always empty, but everyone has all they need.
5. Everyone has all they need, but no one is happy.
6. No one is happy, but they always vote the Communists back in.

(Russian joke)

>evolution never stops (there are always random mutations that will change allele frequencies)
Evolution takes a really long time, I understand the whole process of global socialism and then waiting for human nature to change, but you'll be waiting for thousands of years while billions of people die from the inefficiencies of socialism.

Calm down there toilet cleaner. Go drink some vodka and molest some children in church, that will surely calm you down.

>Yes they do. The French commie disagrees with you on that.
Well what part of human nature are you saying communism ignores?
And idc about the opinions of the French

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I wasn't saying anything about waiting for the brain to change itself by evolution... on the contrary , I'm not sure if it is even necessary, certainly it would help to raise the predisposition for people to be smarter (As in more rational), wouln't it be cool to have more memory for example, and who knows what else... biotechnology could give answers to that, on the other hand we need a network that assist our organization in socialism and in the communist society.

go kill yourself you idiot

no one wants to listen to your pseudo intellectualism

you a piece of
slavshit for (((((((((((((((brains))))))))))))


dying on the front line is all you peaces of meat are good for.

Because under communism work isn't rewarded. So why work?

>Well what part of human nature are you saying communism ignores
All of it, hierarchy, tragedy of the commons, cultural and religious identity, altruism and greed, etc.

Is fascism inaccurate in his pic?

Lack of price signals and economic knowledge = uncoordinated production.

>work isn't rewarded.

if only , you actually get punished for doing work.

unless you consider worked to death a reward.


communsim comes from these demons and their Talmudic scriptures.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ig5sTehZqZA

>you a piece of slavshit
Said the other slavshit

Holy shit!
Where did you get all that soviet propaganda from?
My father lived in the soviet union and he told me following things:
>There was a big offensive and the soldiers seperated from the supplies because of batshit stuipid organization, the officers ended up selling all the supplies and gtfo, a big percentage of the soldiers starved.
>there were stages in the war were you had 5 men with one rifle that had 5 bullets this was not rare
>because so many officers were shot because they didnt want to serve the kikes officers often were complete fools and ended up butchering a huge amount of soldiers, best example would be the finnish war
>the only reason the Soviet union won, was numbers.
get your mind straight, the reds lost the big majority of their aircrafts at the first day of war, they couldnt even take off. The red army was terrible and could only win because of numbers,imense propaganda and death threats.

>All of it, hierarchy, tragedy of the commons, cultural and religious identity, altruism and greed, etc.
You're saying the structure of the utopian communist society ignores these things? Because they're resolved beforehand.

you tell me

orban is a cocksucker just like the cocksuckers your garbage "country" is filled with.

what is 'natural' in religion for example? god is just an alpha/leader of the group instinct associated with nature itself and anthropomorphize too in many cases. It is more cultural than genetic, it is more of a meme than a gene...

wild tribes even nowadays will present a series of superstitions to, but that's magical thinking, an attemp to explain nature by imaginary entities associated(in a fallacy) to the observable phenomena.

Is christian religion genetic? of course not, you are not born a roman catholic... it all depends where you grow up.

oh and I hope he gets his muslims wish too, but muslims from Turkey, not Syria

Literealy watch one documentary on the Eastern front and you will see, that the krauts came close to wining but fucked up and droped the soap and were then fucked by the Soviets.

Pic related strongest polish weapon.