WHY ISN'T POL TALKING ABOUT WHAT A DISASTER THE GOP HEALTHCARE BILL IS?

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>GOP are so selfless nobody wants to have their emblem embroidered on the sacred face of the bill
>this is a problem

Good. Paul Ryan BTFO as he deserves to be. Federal Government should be much less involved in healthcare, not more.

They're too busy sucking Trumps dick and swallowing his cum

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Nobody wants to talk about how shitty Republicans are at actually governing

Interdimensional chess. Ryan takes the fall and Trump gets to make fun of him on twitter. BTFO!!!!!

Yeah so um. The elephant in the room. The logo for our party? Has not taken a gigantor's dookie in the press gallery. You are here because we don't like you. Not that we can't sign our own dookie-legislation

The Republicans can't even pass their own healthcare bill. This will be seen as a gigantic failure and will consume most of this year in terms of legislation

because it's a really good bill?

Really big shoe

what are you talking about, fucking leaf

I don't know, this guy says it's going well... He seems like a pretty cool guy.

Obama's name is not and was never formally attached to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

So Trumpcare is to Obamacare what
Obamacare is to free market healthcare?
I think I understand now.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNM-vZoaHw

Everyone keeps bitching and moaning about it, but I'm happy with it

Wait are right wing retards really gunna dindu Obamacare? Obama embraced that name.

Lmao pussies I'll sign that shit

Giovinezza?

>Repackaged Obamacare doesn't instantly win over a GOP that knows they're in control for the next 22 months and probably are in control for the next 4 years

What exactly is Republicans incentive to cooporate with this healthcare bill when they will probably get a better chance of re-election if they play hardball yet likely won't end up in the position the democrats were in post-2010 when they took so long to get healthcare reform enacted they no longer had enough political power to enact it?

Republican senators/congressmen have quite a large amount of political power here while democrats are mostly limited to bitching and complaining. They're going to try and push the bill further to the right.

because we all lowkey don't care about health care because we want to die.

fuck Ryan

lol can't wait to see his rage tweets when the bill fails

>Healthcare coverage cuts benefit young and healthy

No shit?

I make 60k a year, so that $2,000 tax credit is going straight into my pocket. Thank you Trump!

>Obamacare subsidies are helping drive up the cost of insurance, which is obvious, because insurance companies will price those plans including subsidies to make more money
>so reducing insurance costs means repealing those subsidies

>so this plan does
>and replaces them
>with refundable tax credits
>that anyone can claim, even if they've paid no taxes
>and this is different somehow

Genuinely could not care less about healthcare, I voted for Trump over gun-rights issues, Supreme Court appointments, and immigration/border control, with expansion of gun rights being my primary concern.

As long as Trump holds back and even slightly reverses the forces of gun control I feel vindicated in my vote, even if the world burns.

This fuck Paul Ryan next step is to oust him from speaker

That guy is never wrong. He could say shit is gold and he wouldn't be wrong.

Amen, brother.
No taxes and no healthcare.
Live well, die well.

Paul Ryan's CuckCare fucking up Trump's presidency in the 2nd month. This ruins their whole schedule on tax reform which is even more difficult to do.

Why did Trump get into this debacle first rather than get some easy fucking wins like building a wall on day 1?

Holy fuck his Presidency is over already. Absolutely BTFO.

Wisconsin really needs to stop re-electing Paul Ryan. It's impossible to believe that there are people in that state that think he's good at his job. How could that be?

Zero fucks given for the Gops.

That is not why we put Trump in office. We are at war with Globalism.

Ryan is an Anti-American cuck who would sell his grandmother's teeth if he thought there was gold in them.

Christ on a cracker Shariablue, get your shit together.

Have you heard about how the CIA has warez that can do false flag hacks?

Leaf, I agree with your point. I was appalled at the now omitted provision that would tax my employer sponsored insurance. Faggots who are posting here in support of the plan are either ignorant or poorfagging it on daddy's plan.

I have taken thousands and thousands of dollars in subsidized healthcare coverage, tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands in social assistance, because the government considers me a very sick charity case.

I really believe they've created a world not worth living in doing so. It seems so impossible now for a young person to start a family and own their own home, and all people care about is paying more for healthcare and extending peoples lifespans. People will claim healthcare helps get people back to work, but we all know the people who strain healthcare spending are the people least likely to ever work.

People don't get it. I don't want the poor and needy to be taken care of anymore, they are better off than they've just about ever been and we're still crying over them. I want a strong middle class, that owns their own homes, that owns small businesses, that owns investments that can generate wealth from the bottom up.

I am tired of the governments first priority being helping the poor by spending all their money on people who are doomed to drain from the system forever. I would rather live uncomfortably and less securely on the bottom with more of a chance of launching myself to the middle class, than I would living comfortably on the bottom at the expense of destroying the middle class for the sake of me getting gibs.

Nowadays I'm in two modes, either I spend my spare time trying to destroy the socialism I benefit from, or I spend my spare time trying to no longer becoming a recipient of wealth and getting a good career going. I feel ashamed of myself morally and feel it's what I must do.

This is an important post.

This is the new shill tactic. Try to make Republicans look bad before the 2018 election so dims don't lose any seats.

Explain how the reconciliation is worse than onigger care? Pro tip, you cant.

Eh don't feel too bad. The real problem is all the broke foreign nationals liberals keep bringing over because they want to be poor with those savages too because it's enriching.
We could still take care of based leafs while having a bright future if these stupid motherfuckers didn't keep voting for Brazilian favela serfdom

> Try to make Republicans look bad

Republicans are doing that themselves.

They have no clue how to govern.

Republicans were going to tax the non- night class on the value of their private policies.

Wisconsin also voted for Tr--...nevermind. Wisconsin is just shit

Or you could just think of what you've taken in health care costs as an investment in you, and make the decision to provide a good return on investment.

It's fucking shit, even worse than fucking obamacare. Did republicans forget how their own ideology works?
>kill all government healthcare related programs
>kill the FDA
There you go. FIxed healthcare in 2 lines

*nigger...my Jewdroid doesn't want me to be racist. Fuck that.

the GOP is the moderate left. we need a conservative party

It was all a ruse to get Rands in place. Trump talked about health saving and Ryan was too chickenshit to risk people having another 5,000$ tax write off a year.

>I am tired of the governments first priority being helping the poor by spending all their money on people who are doomed to drain from the system forever. I would rather live uncomfortably and less securely on the bottom with more of a chance of launching myself to the middle class, than I would living comfortably on the bottom at the expense of destroying the middle class for the sake of me getting gibs.
you are dumb as a dump truck, the governments first priority is getting votes so they can keep stealing your money and lining their pockets. the rich come first, then the middle class in your view, the poor in the left. it's all a game of division, the rich on top, and keep us lefties and you righties at eachothers throats while they walk away with 30 cars.

It should be up for debate... you know, like we expect them.
Negotiate the fucking thing, I don't know why they, and Trump, are pushing it so hard.

Has anyone else noticed that the more the federal government gets involved in something, the worse it gets?

Has federal regulation of healthcare made it better or cheaper? No
Has federal involvement in K12 education increased student performance? No
Has federal involvement in higher education decreased costs? No
Has federal regulation of the financial sector made made it less powerful or volatile? No
Has federal anti-trust legislation prevented monopolies? No
Has federal intervention in the middle east made the region better? No
And on...
And on...
And on...

Of course Democrats want to politicize it by calling it Trumpcare, that way anybody who hates Trump will hate the bill no matter what's in it.

I don't know enough about healthcare to have strong opinions on whats going on desu.

but these motherfuckers had one job to get right to make sure they don't get fucked in 4 years and I have a sinking feeling they're about to shit the bed.

>Has federal regulation of healthcare made it better or cheaper? No
yes, because people who couldn't afford health care now can afford health care, you dumbass
just becuase its more expensive for people with money doesn't mean averages stop being a thing.

It's a 3 phase process. Stop shilling.

same thing with obamacare you nigger

Because its not even past the first draft you urban retard

He's from Canada. He doesn't count.

Wait, what does Wisconsin have to do with Paul Ryan being in? And who would replace him if he wasn't elected?

take the libertarian pill, user

No they can't, dumbass. What are subsidies?

It's more expensive for everybody who works, dipshit. It's only cheaper (i.e. free) for people who don't work and live off welfare.

>REPUBLICAN BILL IS DISASTER

No. The PAUL RYAN RINO BUTTFUCK DUMBASS BILL IS A DISASTER.

it'll never get passed the Senate.

the democrats will oppose automatically, and will attempt to filibuster.

Rand Paul and other republicans will oppose it too. They want to go back to before Obamacare.

where could they have learned such a horrible, hurtful tactic?

Because I read it and I do not think it is a disaster.

rewards for the people who voted the politicians in office, in effect, the replacement of wealth delivered directly from the king.

yes, which makes it net cheaper, learn how math works you dindu
>don't work
tons of people work low paying jobs with no health care you nigger,

The Dems themselves called it Obamacare because they thought everybody lived king nigger and that we'd all live the bill because his name is on it.

*love

Very much this.

Federal regulation prohibits insurance companies from selling policies across state lines, creating de-facto state monopolies as well as mandates for pre-existing conditions, birth control, maternity care, etc. Health insurance costs have increased MASSIVELY due to government interference.

Don't pretend that the Leaf's post doesn't embody the sentiment rational people wish niggers had.

>which makes it net cheaper
you are a product of common core and feel sorry for you

All city people will embrace it

Will RandCare rise from the ashes?

I feel the government disincentivizes me from doing this - listen to this.

Here in BC disability assistance is $1,033/month, and they recently cut the free bus pass, which you can still get at a subsidized but less subsidized rate.

You are allowed to make 9600/year or 800/month without having your assistance cheque docked, then it's docked at 1:1. Minimum wage in BC is 10.85. 800 / 10.85 = you cap out what you can make at 74 hours a month of work. The next 95 hours you work, you aren't paid at all. This means the smart move when on assistance is to work part time, because you don't make any more money working full time. The disabled are given a strong disincentive from working FT.

I understand that I should ask not what my country can do for me, but what I can do for my country, but it does absolutely irritate me this province seems to encourage disabled people who could for example work full time minimum wage to work part time instead. There's no sort of middle ground where we recognize people might need a little help, but at the same time we should expect them to work hard, it's either you're expected to work, or you're not expected to work.

Every minute on Sup Forums is a minute where I'm continuing to be a leech piece of shit, and there's no excuse for it, and it doesn't change what I'm doing, but I feel like since people like me are used in emotional pleas to give people more gibs, I think people like me that think the current system is fucked up and is morally wrong should speak up.

This is getting off the topic of American healthcare of course, but I really think there is a general trend to not enable people to climb out of poverty using hard work, to create social safety nets that encourage you to work LESS hard, with everybody being said you're a fucking immoral asshole if you don't go along with this.

That isn't the same thing as making healthcare affordable.

no.

Also I work a low paying job and my deductible is through the roof. Again, Obamacare was only good for welfare niggers and illegal immigrants. We're taking our country back.

the wall is better

Also, while the government purposefully discourages the disabled from working, they say we need immigrants.

Why?

Because we have a low skill job shortage.

It would make me laugh if it weren't so fucked up. Literally all they need to do is pay the disabled people that are already here to work full time.

You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Ryan is promoting the closest thing he can to Trump's plan.

Next time think before you speak dumbass.

Wisconsin is full of rural and suburban retards, which is why it did go red

Because we have jobs and aren't parasites who literally depend on another to survive while offering them nothing in return.

I'm ok with this.
I didn't want to pay for health insurance.
I don't want it.
People should have the right the choose.

>Implying I didn't take it 15 years ago
The libertarian movement has been taken over by old hippies and cringe ancaps though. Depressing when my red pill came from more classical libertarians like Hayek.

We've been too easy on these faggots.

Time to smash.

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neither ACA, or RyanCare does anything to make prices go down. They are both the same shit our government does Which is just find ways to throw more money into the furnace. Which has screwed up housing and college too.

>threads about it all day
>why isn't Sup Forums talking about it

And only to subsidize catastrophe insurance to those people. Obama loved spouting out how he had insured millions who couldn't afford it but those policies were largely bullshit. They were insurance in the way that giving the homeless a coupon for a free small French fry keeps them from starving.

>Genuinely could not care less about healthcare

You don't care how much you pay for healthcare?

And you should die from your sounds should you be unequalled to meme them yourself.

No matter what (((plan))) in enacted, here's the essence of it.

>literally depend on another to survive

Except your employer, right?

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I pay like 100$ a month

It used to be less

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Good for you. Personally I'd rather not see the white middle class ass raped by this bullshit, because that's really bad for everybody, including muh guns autists, but whatever.